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Post by fixit on Apr 24, 2024 20:37:10 GMT -5
What do you mean staying silent, and spankings? You mean you got smacked if you made a noise in the meeting as a child? Oh yes, did I ever. I remember being taken out of meetings by my dad and spanked because I couldn't sit still. Ever since I can remember that happened. To this day when I hear a kid being carried out of a restaurant screaming please Daddy, no Daddy, I just want to grab that child and run. We don't see that so much here: Crimes (Substituted Section 59) Amendment Act 2007
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Post by fixit on Apr 24, 2024 20:43:33 GMT -5
Very sad Pragmatic and I know of many similar abuse situations that took place in Victoria. And yet those same people came with a "Holier Than Thou", attitude to meetings on Sunday. They felt their behaviour was justified by being a Sunday Christian. Just a great pretence. It is more important to live the life of a Christian every day. Christianity is a religion which places good qualities at its core, tolerance, compassion and love. It is considered a Christian duty to treat others with kindness, humanity and genuine acceptance, at all times. Living the life is far more important than any time spent in Church. "The most important work you will ever do will be within the walls of your own home.” Harold B. Lee I think a lot of the abuse was for a couple of reasons: 1. To avoid sparing the rod and spoiling the child 2. To demonstrate what they considered good parenting and biblical obedience.
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Post by snow on Apr 24, 2024 20:58:26 GMT -5
Oh yes, did I ever. I remember being taken out of meetings by my dad and spanked because I couldn't sit still. Ever since I can remember that happened. To this day when I hear a kid being carried out of a restaurant screaming please Daddy, no Daddy, I just want to grab that child and run. We don't see that so much here: Crimes (Substituted Section 59) Amendment Act 2007The last time I saw that was in a restaurant in the southern States. Don't see it in Canada much either.
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Post by help on Apr 24, 2024 21:19:27 GMT -5
Very sad Pragmatic and I know of many similar abuse situations that took place in Victoria. And yet those same people came with a "Holier Than Thou", attitude to meetings on Sunday. They felt their behaviour was justified by being a Sunday Christian. Just a great pretence. It is more important to live the life of a Christian every day. Christianity is a religion which places good qualities at its core, tolerance, compassion and love. It is considered a Christian duty to treat others with kindness, humanity and genuine acceptance, at all times. Living the life is far more important than any time spent in Church. "The most important work you will ever do will be within the walls of your own home.” Harold B. Lee I think a lot of the abuse was for a couple of reasons: 1. To avoid sparing the rod and spoiling the child 2. To demonstrate what they considered good parenting I just shudder when I remember the unwarranted, unjustified behaviour. Abuse, dressed up as proper child discipline, endorsed by the Workers as the right thing to do. Just so glad that we got away from that environment when our family was young. We treated them with love and kindness and are so thankful and proud of the much greater family that we now have.
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Post by ForeverFree on Apr 24, 2024 23:55:05 GMT -5
The current 2x2s have gone off the tracks with A LOT of things. Too many engineers fighting to have control in driving the train and now it's headed off the tracks and the crash is happening as we speak. The number of lives affected by those on the train and those who were got off at previous stations is too many to count, but many, many people have been hurt. Yes, I know about these things you mention… it happened in the days of Peter, Paul and John also, that was why God and Christ raised up Paul, John and those like them through the centuries to keep the New Test. Ministry of Christ and His people to STAY on tracks of Jesus New Test. Teachings, build on the Rock/Jesus teachings and NOT on the sand foundation of false apostles teachings. Read Matthew 7:13-28. You're getting off track too, just like the rest of the 2x2s. This is about the 2x2 fellowship today, not about what happened 1940 years ago.
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Post by ForeverFree on Apr 24, 2024 23:56:28 GMT -5
You need to look at yourself! I do, Dan is watching me, and correcting me. 👍I always make sure what I teach are sound doctrines and it line up with Old, New Test. and the teachings of God the Father, Christ, the Holy Spirit and with the True apostles of Christ. I welcome the feed backs! Negative and positive comments… You don't welcome the feedback, you welcome the attention.
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Post by nathan2 on Apr 25, 2024 0:29:12 GMT -5
I do, Dan is watching me, and correcting me. 👍I always make sure what I teach are sound doctrines and it line up with Old, New Test. and the teachings of God the Father, Christ, the Holy Spirit and with the True apostles of Christ. I welcome the feed backs! Negative and positive comments… You don't welcome the feedback, you welcome the attention. I do both! 🤗I listen then I take what is good and toss the bad in the garbage.
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Post by nathan2 on Apr 25, 2024 0:32:09 GMT -5
Yes, I know about these things you mention… it happened in the days of Peter, Paul and John also, that was why God and Christ raised up Paul, John and those like them through the centuries to keep the New Test. Ministry of Christ and His people to STAY on tracks of Jesus New Test. Teachings, build on the Rock/Jesus teachings and NOT on the sand foundation of false apostles teachings. Read Matthew 7:13-28. You're getting off track too, just like the rest of the 2x2s. This is about the 2x2 fellowship today, not about what happened 1940 years ago. Time will tell it is you/ex-2x2 or me off the track.
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Post by Annan on Apr 25, 2024 6:32:52 GMT -5
I think a lot of the abuse was for a couple of reasons: 1. To avoid sparing the rod and spoiling the child 2. To demonstrate what they considered good parenting I just shudder when I remember the unwarranted, unjustified behaviour. Abuse, dressed up as proper child discipline, endorsed by the Workers as the right thing to do. Just so glad that we got away from that environment when our family was young. We treated them with love and kindness and are so thankful and proud of the much greater family that we now have. That was my life too. I was thrown out of the house when I was 18 because my boyfriend was not a 2x2 and I refused to give him up. I didn't see my parents for two years after that. I was walking down the street in another town and my dad was driving by and stopped when he saw me. Of course it was all my fault. It wasn't till he died several years ago that I was finally able to heal. My psoriasis disappeared over night. Literally!
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Post by nathan2 on Apr 25, 2024 14:33:29 GMT -5
You atheists ex-2x2 are too much! 😱🤣🤣 But we're right. 😜 You wish! 🧌🧟♂️👺
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Apr 25, 2024 14:37:37 GMT -5
The difference is that you christians read the bible and then manufacture evidence to support your beliefs. That is the height of dishonesty. Atheists look at the evidence obtained by scientific method and seek to understand what it means. So far there is no evidence that your god or any other god has had any input into what we see.
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Post by nathan2 on Apr 25, 2024 15:29:19 GMT -5
The difference is that you christians read the bible and then manufacture evidence to support your beliefs. That is the height of dishonesty. Atheists look at the evidence obtained by scientific method and seek to understand what it means. So far there is no evidence that your god or any other god has had any input into what we see. Yes, there are good evidence of God and Christ in Luke 16 where Jesus said the atheists/Unbelievers souls will go down in Hades/. The believers souls will end up in Paradise/Heaven. You/atheists and believers will find out Jesus was telling the truth when we die, eh. Death is around the corner for all of us. Let us wait for that day when each of us must die then we will KNOW Jesus is correct or not. It would be very interesting to hear testimonies of the atheists and believers on TMB have died the last 20 years, to see where they are now! And what can they tell us of the place their souls live.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Apr 25, 2024 15:44:47 GMT -5
The difference is that you christians read the bible and then manufacture evidence to support your beliefs. That is the height of dishonesty. Atheists look at the evidence obtained by scientific method and seek to understand what it means. So far there is no evidence that your god or any other god has had any input into what we see. Yes, there are good evidence of God and Christ in Luke 16 where Jesus said the atheists/Unbelievers souls will go down in Hades/. The believers souls will end up in Paradise/Heaven. You/atheists and believers will find out Jesus was telling the truth when we die, eh. Death is around the corner for all of us. Let us wait for that day when each of us must die then we will KNOW Jesus is correct or not. It would be very interesting to hear testimonies of the atheists and believers on TMB have died the last 20 years, to see where they are now! And what can they tell us of the place their souls live. You cannot use the buybull to prove the buybull. It is just a collection of myths and legends that an ignorant tribe imagined. How many times do you have to be told this?
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Post by BobWilliston on Apr 25, 2024 16:28:13 GMT -5
The last time I saw that was in a restaurant in the southern States. Don't see it in Canada much either. I've never seen it outside of meetings in Canada, but I've seen it every so often in the US. I was completely horrified when I was about 15 and saw a man slapping his preschooler son around on the sidewalk when I was in the US for convention. As long as our two daughters were quiet in meetings we let them take whatever position they wanted in their own seats. One time our younger one got quite disruptive so my wife went out to another room with her to settle her down a bit. Then I heard little feet running around the other room and the kid was giggling. So I went out to see what was happening, and the kid was playing catch me with my wife trying to catch her. So I just picked the kid up and took her back into the meeting room and sat perfectly still with her on my knee and she soon started to go to sleep. Once a little kid between me and his parents was getting restless, so I volunteered to have him sit on my knee. I whispered in his ear for a bit, then he began examining my ears and moustache and did a lot of smiling for me. I got called the "kid whisperer" quite frequently.
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Post by mountain on Apr 25, 2024 16:55:34 GMT -5
Time has already told. You missed it because head was buried up your a$$. You atheists ex-2x2 are too much! 😱🤣🤣 Surely you mean 'too x too' much?
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Post by nathan2 on Apr 25, 2024 17:56:18 GMT -5
You atheists ex-2x2 are too much! 😱🤣🤣 Surely you mean 'too x too' much? Haha…..😂😂🤣
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Post by ForeverFree on Apr 25, 2024 19:27:02 GMT -5
You don't welcome the feedback, you welcome the attention. I do both! 🤗I listen then I take what is good and toss the bad in the garbage. The problem is, you can't tell what is good and what is bad. That is why you have such deluded beliefs.
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Post by ForeverFree on Apr 25, 2024 19:32:10 GMT -5
You're getting off track too, just like the rest of the 2x2s. This is about the 2x2 fellowship today, not about what happened 1940 years ago. Time will tell it is you/ex-2x2 or me off the track. Time has already told. You're off track.
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Post by ForeverFree on Apr 25, 2024 19:40:15 GMT -5
The difference is that you christians read the bible and then manufacture evidence to support your beliefs. That is the height of dishonesty. Atheists look at the evidence obtained by scientific method and seek to understand what it means. So far there is no evidence that your god or any other god has had any input into what we see. Yes, there are good evidence of God and Christ in Luke 16 where Jesus said the atheists/Unbelievers souls will go down in Hades/. The believers souls will end up in Paradise/Heaven. You/atheists and believers will find out Jesus was telling the truth when we die, eh. Death is around the corner for all of us. Let us wait for that day when each of us must die then we will KNOW Jesus is correct or not. It would be very interesting to hear testimonies of the atheists and believers on TMB have died the last 20 years, to see where they are now! And what can they tell us of the place their souls live. You can't quote a bible verse and say it is evidence. That's like saying the story of Little Red Riding Hood is true and really happened because it's printed right there in black and white. You need to start being smart.
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Post by fixit on Apr 25, 2024 19:56:23 GMT -5
You cannot use the buybull to prove the buybull. It is just a collection of myths and legends that an ignorant tribe imagined. How many times do you have to be told this? I don’t really care what you think, I will stick with my God and Christ’s teachings than your hot air 💩 Bull S. 🥱😴 2 Timothy 2:23 Have nothing to do with stupid and senseless controversies; you know that they breed quarrels. 24 And the Lord’s servant must not be quarrelsome but kindly to everyone, an apt teacher, patient, 25 correcting opponents with gentleness. God may perhaps grant that they will repent and come to know the truth
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Post by ForeverFree on Apr 25, 2024 20:21:43 GMT -5
I don’t really care what you think, I will stick with my God and Christ’s teachings than your hot air BS. 🥱😴 And complete lack of critical thinking skills. Jesus died for your sins, what a load of $hit. I knew an accountant that died for a complete stranger, and at least that actually happened. I think the bible got the spelling all wrong. Jesus worked in a garment factory. He dyed for mankind.
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Post by nathan2 on Apr 25, 2024 20:22:38 GMT -5
I don’t really care what you think, I will stick with my God and Christ’s teachings than your hot air 💩 Bull S. 🥱😴 Typical Nathan reply when the "know it all" doesn't know what to say. You seem to care what we think until it's proven that you haven't got a clue. Then all of a sudden you don't care. Some people are too blind to see and don’t believe what God has said. Jesus said, “Let them alone, the the blind leads the blinds, both shall into the ditch.. Don’t cast your pearls before the swine, lest they turn against you and trample it under their feet. ”
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Post by ForeverFree on Apr 26, 2024 0:17:09 GMT -5
Typical Nathan reply when the "know it all" doesn't know what to say. You seem to care what we think until it's proven that you haven't got a clue. Then all of a sudden you don't care. Some people are too blind to see and don’t believe what God has said. Jesus said, “Let them alone, the the blind leads the blinds, both shall into the ditch.. Don’t cast your pearls before the swine, lest they turn against you and trample it under their feet. ” "Some people are too blind to see..." That would be you.
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Post by nathan2 on Apr 26, 2024 0:29:36 GMT -5
Some people are too blind to see and don’t believe what God has said. Jesus said, “Let them alone, the the blind leads the blinds, both shall into the ditch.. Don’t cast your pearls before the swine, lest they turn against you and trample it under their feet. ” "Some people are too blind to see..." That would be you. It could be you, too you know. Just saying. Time soon will tell after you and I die, who is the blind.
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Post by nathan2 on Apr 26, 2024 0:35:23 GMT -5
And complete lack of critical thinking skills. Jesus died for your sins, what a load of $hit. I knew an accountant that died for a complete stranger, and at least that actually happened. I think the bible got the spelling all wrong. Jesus worked in a garment factory. He dyed for mankind. In the day of judgment you atheists wish you HAD believed Jesus DIED for your sins for sure. Repent before it too late. The rich unbeliever in Luke 16 REPENTED in hades but it was too late! The Holy Spirit said Today if you hear His voice hardened NOT your heart! Soften your heart while you still have the opportunity.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Apr 26, 2024 0:37:37 GMT -5
I think the bible got the spelling all wrong. Jesus worked in a garment factory. He dyed for mankind. In the day of judgment you atheists wish you HAD believed Jesus DIED for your sins for sure. Repent before it too late. The rich unbeliever in Luke 16 REPENTED in hades but it was too late! The Holy Spirit said Today if you hear His voice hardened NOT your heart! Soften your heart while you still have the opportunity. Your threats are as empty as your head.
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Post by nathan2 on Apr 26, 2024 8:21:20 GMT -5
In the day of judgment you atheists wish you HAD believed Jesus DIED for your sins for sure. Repent before it too late. The rich unbeliever in Luke 16 REPENTED in hades but it was too late! The Holy Spirit said Today if you hear His voice hardened NOT your heart! Soften your heart while you still have the opportunity. Your threats are as empty as your head. That is no threat! Just a reminder if you want to live in heaven, where there is no more pains, suffering, sorrows, cancer, disease, mortgage payments, health insurance, auto insurance, life insurance. No more wars, Nuclear ☢️ bombs 💣 threats! You live in peace, happiness, joy and a carefree life forever! Don’t you want to live forever with that kind of life. READ Rev. chapters 21-22. Get to KNOW your New earth and heaven.
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Post by ForeverFree on Apr 26, 2024 8:22:23 GMT -5
"Some people are too blind to see..." That would be you. It could be you, too you know. Just saying. Time soon will tell after you and I die, who is the blind. No need to wait until death, time has already told who is the blind. People that can't think for themselves and follow false religion like mindless sheep.
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