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Post by Annan on Sept 3, 2024 9:12:37 GMT -5
...another specialist told me I definitely had Covid, but because I'd had the vaccine I didn't suffer so badly. He told me that the hospital had Covid tests that weren't reliable. Whatever -- it's nothing more than increasing your odds no matter what you are doing. It's official. What I thought was a cold turns out to be covid. It's definitely a mild case as I had a severe case (21 days of hell) before I was able to get the vaccine. My husband got the covid meds and is doing very well. It's too late for me as they need to be administered early.
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Post by ipsedixit3 on Sept 3, 2024 10:30:29 GMT -5
As Annon and Pragmatic both illustrated, the new RNA vaccines had some issues that traditional vaccines generally don't. Their experiences are those of millions. However, on a whole, the vaccines were effective. Healthy children generally develop only mild signs and symptoms. The discussion isn't black and white. Let me simplify it for you: When you put a militant anti-vaxxer in change of health... Do you expect more people or less people will die? www.science.org/content/blog-post/note-robert-f-kennedy-jrWell, it depends. RFK-Jr., like Obama, wouldn't provide federal funding for Gain of Function research, so if had been in charge of NIH and HHS funding, COVID wouldn't have existed in the first place. It was created in the Wuhan lab using NIH money funneled through EcoHealth Alliance. That's now 95% certain, but it used to be a "wild conspiracy theory" that only nutters like RFK Jr. thought. So I'd say a couple million people would still be alive, wouldn't you? I don't agree with the militant anti-Vax message, but I also don't believe in creating novel viruses which cause pandemics. So it remains complicated. The notion that RFK-jr in the White House would mean an end to vaccinations is propaganda though. RFK Jr, in his own words, is pro- vaccine. "In Thimerosal: Let the Science Speak, Kennedy writes that he does not see himself as anti-vaccine: "People who advocate for safer vaccines should not be marginalized or denounced as anti-vaccine. I am pro-vaccine. I had all six of my children vaccinated. I believe that vaccines have saved the lives of hundreds of millions of humans over the past century and that broad vaccine coverage is critical to public health. But I want our vaccines to be as safe as possible."[241]" You're believing another lie.
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Post by fixit on Sept 3, 2024 13:41:12 GMT -5
...another specialist told me I definitely had Covid, but because I'd had the vaccine I didn't suffer so badly. He told me that the hospital had Covid tests that weren't reliable. Whatever -- it's nothing more than increasing your odds no matter what you are doing. It's official. What I thought was a cold turns out to be covid. It's definitely a mild case as I had a severe case (21 days of hell) before I was able to get the vaccine. My husband got the covid meds and is doing very well. It's too late for me as they need to be administered early. Wishing you the very best for recovery Annan. Natie needs you.
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Post by Annan on Sept 3, 2024 16:37:17 GMT -5
It's official. What I thought was a cold turns out to be covid. It's definitely a mild case as I had a severe case (21 days of hell) before I was able to get the vaccine. My husband got the covid meds and is doing very well. It's too late for me as they need to be administered early. Wishing you the very best for recovery Annan. Natie needs you. HAHAHAHA...
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Post by fixit on Sept 3, 2024 17:55:57 GMT -5
So it remains complicated. The notion that RFK-jr in the White House would mean an end to vaccinations is propaganda though. RFK Jr, in his own words, is pro- vaccine. "In Thimerosal: Let the Science Speak, Kennedy writes that he does not see himself as anti-vaccine: "People who advocate for safer vaccines should not be marginalized or denounced as anti-vaccine. I am pro-vaccine. I had all six of my children vaccinated. I believe that vaccines have saved the lives of hundreds of millions of humans over the past century and that broad vaccine coverage is critical to public health. But I want our vaccines to be as safe as possible."[241]" You're believing another lie. It's complicated for you because you're mixing lies and truth. Kennedy doesn't let the science speak. Here's your quote in context... Kennedy is a prominent voice in the anti-vaccine movement, spreading anti-vaccine misinformation, disinformation, and propaganda. The infectious disease specialist Michael Osterholm has said that Kennedy's "anti-vaccine disinformation" is effective "because it's portrayed to the public with graphs and figures and what appears to be scientific data. He has perfected the art of illusion of fact." Osterholm added: "this is about people's lives. And the consequences of promoting this kind of disinformation, as credible as it may seem, is simply dangerous." Kennedy has said that he is not against vaccines but wants them to be more thoroughly tested and investigated. In Thimerosal: Let the Science Speak, Kennedy writes that he does not see himself as anti-vaccine: "People who advocate for safer vaccines should not be marginalized or denounced as anti-vaccine. I am pro-vaccine. I had all six of my children vaccinated. I believe that vaccines have saved the lives of hundreds of millions of humans over the past century and that broad vaccine coverage is critical to public health. But I want our vaccines to be as safe as possible." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_F._Kennedy_Jr.
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Post by BobWilliston on Sept 3, 2024 23:07:01 GMT -5
I'm not detached from reality. There is a difference -- legally, though you don't care for it. Biden stayed where politicians are expected to stay when laying wreaths. He did not go with families to individual burial places for photo ops, and Trump had been told ahead of time not to go there. Furthermore, he wasn't there are a government official at all -- he was only there as a political candidate for office. You're treating him like he's already a public official. But that's what the families wanted. Within an hour of Kamala posting her tweet, 5 or 6 of them had already recorded video responses ripped her to shreds. So what? Some families wanted them to smash windows in the Capitol. Stupid Trump could probably have gotten away with it if he hadn't turned it into a campaign ad occasion. Getting political takes away the respect for the people who were there. You probably need to have more respect for decorum -- there's a reason for the rules.
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Post by fixit on Sept 5, 2024 5:27:41 GMT -5
www.msn.com/en-nz/news/other/conservative-commentators-say-they-were-duped-into-working-for-russia/ar-AA1q1BRS?Conservative influencers were allegedly 'duped' into working with Russian assets as they raked in hundreds of thousands of dollars for their videos under a sprawling $10million 'covert project' by Kremlin-backed RT, federal officials said Wednesday. The bombshell indictment unsealed in the Southern District of New York accuses RT employees Konstantin Kalashnikov and Elena of Afanasyeva of implementing a plan to shell out nearly $10million to a Tennessee-based company to churn out videos 'consistent' with the Kremlin's 'interest in amplifying U.S. domestic divisions.' From: www.msn.com/en-nz/news/other/kremlin-says-it-will-take-retaliatory-action-against-us-news-outlets/ar-AA1q2mdl?The Kremlin has said it will take retaliatory action against American news outlets after the US charged Russian media executives and state broadcaster RT with attempting to influence the 2024 presidential elections.The US Treasury and State departments also announced actions targeting RT, including the network's top editor, Margarita Simonyan and her deputy Elizaveta Brodskaia, officials said. Simonyan was a 'central figure in Russian government malign influence efforts,' the Treasury Department said, while Brodskaia 'reported to Russian President Putin and other government officials.' US officials said Russia's goal was to exacerbate US political divisions and weaken public support for American aid to Ukraine in its war with Russia.
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Post by BobWilliston on Sept 5, 2024 16:20:27 GMT -5
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Post by BobWilliston on Sept 5, 2024 16:24:45 GMT -5
Sept. 1-4, 2024 10 mass shootings in the USA.
The school killing in Georgia on Sept. 4 was the 45th school shooting for 2024.
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Post by fixit on Sept 5, 2024 23:18:38 GMT -5
Tell me please..........you Americans are not going to elect this fool are you?
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Sept 6, 2024 0:04:32 GMT -5
Tell me please..........you Americans are not going to elect this fool are you? Then there is morons like the people in this video who are promising civil war if Trump is not elected President.
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Post by BobWilliston on Sept 6, 2024 0:42:08 GMT -5
Now there's a new twist -- he's needing to impress some moderate voters, so he admitted he had lost the 2020 election. His insurrectionist folks are pist::
I do declare ......... This is going to be one interesting election season. And the voting begins in some states even before Trump and Harris debate next week.
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Post by BobWilliston on Sept 6, 2024 0:51:49 GMT -5
Then there is morons like the people in this video who are promising civil war if Trump is not elected President. I recommend reading this book: Onishi, Bradley, Preparing for War, Broadleaf Books, Minneapolis, 2024 Subtitle: The Extremist History of White Christian Nationalism -- and what comes next. Enjoy!!!!
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Sept 6, 2024 1:09:04 GMT -5
Then there is morons like the people in this video who are promising civil war if Trump is not elected President. I recommend reading this book: Onishi, Bradley, Preparing for War, Broadleaf Books, Minneapolis, 2024 Subtitle: The Extremist History of White Christian Nationalism -- and what comes next. Enjoy!!!! They are also known as "Y'all Qaeda"
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Post by Dan on Sept 6, 2024 4:20:19 GMT -5
Tell me please..........you Americans are not going to elect this fool are you?
Do you oppose child care or just Trumps plan on how to raise the money to pay for it?
Something has got to give, the U.S. is spending a trillion dollars of debt every 100 days. The battle is between capitalism/freedom and socialism, Harris is a socialist.
The U.S. spent $12 trillion during covid, giving $1800 to every American, and that's what caused this run-a-way inflation. Kamala wants to spend trillions paying off all college loans, and give $25k to everyone wanting to buy homes. That will send prices soaring and devalue the USD big time. The difference between her and Trump is that Trump explains how he'll pay for things, while Harris simply promises all these freebee's with no explanation of how she'll pay for it.
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Post by fixit on Sept 6, 2024 5:17:24 GMT -5
Tell me please..........you Americans are not going to elect this fool are you? Do you oppose child care or just Trumps plan on how to raise the money to pay for it?
Something has got to give, the U.S. is spending a trillion dollars of debt every 100 days. The battle is between capitalism/freedom and socialism, Harris is a socialist. The U.S. spent $12 trillion during covid, giving $1800 to every American, and that's what caused this run-a-way inflation. Kamala wants to spend trillions paying off all college loans, and give $25k to everyone wanting to buy homes. That will send prices soaring and devalue the USD big time. The difference between her and Trump is that Trump explains how he'll pay for things, while Harris simply promises all these freebee's with no explanation of how she'll pay for it.
I don't oppose government help with child care. Child care costs to enable workforce participation should be fully tax deductable. Is it in the US? If taxing imports was an easy fix to economic problems it would have been done long ago. His idea is simplistic and naive.
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Post by Annan on Sept 6, 2024 6:34:21 GMT -5
Do you oppose child care or just Trumps plan on how to raise the money to pay for it?
Something has got to give, the U.S. is spending a trillion dollars of debt every 100 days. The battle is between capitalism/freedom and socialism, Harris is a socialist. The U.S. spent $12 trillion during covid, giving $1800 to every American, and that's what caused this run-a-way inflation. Kamala wants to spend trillions paying off all college loans, and give $25k to everyone wanting to buy homes. That will send prices soaring and devalue the USD big time. The difference between her and Trump is that Trump explains how he'll pay for things, while Harris simply promises all these freebee's with no explanation of how she'll pay for it.
I don't oppose government help with child care. Child care costs to enable workforce participation should be fully tax deductable. Is it in the US? If taxing imports was an easy fix to economic problems it would have been done long ago. His idea is simplistic and naive. Years ago you could deduct a percentage of child care expenses. Don't know how it works out now.
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Post by fixit on Sept 6, 2024 15:40:13 GMT -5
Tax on imports was probably the easiest way to raise revenue hundreds of years ago, but anyone with more economic nous that the average five year old knows that the negative implications would be huge. From: www.whitehouse.gov/cea/written-materials/2024/07/12/tariffs-as-a-major-revenue-source-implications-for-distribution-and-growth/In the early days of our nation, tariffs, or taxes on imported goods, were a primary source of government revenue. Over time, however, as the nation’s economy and businesses matured, it became clear that it was both fairer for American households and better for businesses, many of whom increasingly imported inputs to aid their domestic production, to raise revenues through a progressive income tax rather than regressive tariffs.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Sept 6, 2024 17:01:35 GMT -5
Tax on imports was probably the easiest way to raise revenue hundreds of years ago, but anyone with more economic nous that the average five year old knows that the negative implications would be huge. From: www.whitehouse.gov/cea/written-materials/2024/07/12/tariffs-as-a-major-revenue-source-implications-for-distribution-and-growth/In the early days of our nation, tariffs, or taxes on imported goods, were a primary source of government revenue. Over time, however, as the nation’s economy and businesses matured, it became clear that it was both fairer for American households and better for businesses, many of whom increasingly imported inputs to aid their domestic production, to raise revenues through a progressive income tax rather than regressive tariffs. Trump placed tariffs on some metal imports to curb Chinese steel imports. It also hurt other countries such as NZ's export of high quality aluminium to the USA. China retaliated by purchasing soy from countries other than the USA which caused the USA soy farmers to need even more govt subsidies. Tariffs have unintended consequences. Reagan introduced a tariff on imported motorcycles to protect Hardly Dangerous Motorcycles from the Japanese onslaught. The Japanese simply built factories in the USA which avoided the tariff. Even today, HD is only profitable because of it's accessory and finance business's. In the USA there was the Smoot–Hawley Tariff Act of 1930 which some economists credit with making the depression worse. Popular thinking in bygone days was that tariffs encourage local business. But if not managed properly they become a cost to the consumer. They also protect inefficient industries in what is now a very competitive world. Prior to the annexation of India by Britain, and China being nailed in the opium wars, these two countries were the largest economies and had been for a long time. They are now returning to their former greatness and have become powerful influences in world trade.
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Post by fixit on Sept 6, 2024 19:34:12 GMT -5
New Zealand benefitted greatly from the removal of import restrictions on motor vehicles and the removal of agricultural subsidies.
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Post by BobWilliston on Sept 6, 2024 20:11:02 GMT -5
45 minute Trump press conference today. Topic: He has never been disrespectable toward any of those women. Especially because none of them were hot enough for his taste. He took no questions. I'm relieved.
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Post by BobWilliston on Sept 6, 2024 20:13:14 GMT -5
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Post by fixit on Sept 6, 2024 20:27:44 GMT -5
I have a lot of respect for Republicans who can put aside partison politics for the good of the country. Here in New Zealand we had a left-wing government take power in 1984 that governed to the right of the previous right-wing administration and implemented necessary reforms.
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Post by BobWilliston on Sept 6, 2024 21:48:07 GMT -5
I have a lot of respect for Republicans who can put aside partison politics for the good of the country. Here in New Zealand we had a left-wing government take power in 1984 that governed to the right of the previous right-wing administration and implemented necessary reforms. This can actually happen in a good healthy democratic system, and you do well with the parliamentary system in NZ. It's not so easy in the US system because there are so many veto points between the voters and the signing into law. But re: the Cheneys -- that is GOP solid conservative royalty from long before Trump's time. Of course, the GOP used to believe in democracy until recently.
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Post by fixit on Sept 6, 2024 23:01:12 GMT -5
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Post by BobWilliston on Sept 6, 2024 23:17:58 GMT -5
Trump's team are more concerned about Trump himself going overboard with his own character assassination of Harris, and they don't want to make him look worse than it already is. I've chuckled over Trump's declaration that Kamala just decided recently that's she's Black, maybe playing the race card for attention. He needs to be careful -- I saw how she managed to shut Pence up when he tried to talk over her in their discussion.
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Post by Dan on Sept 7, 2024 0:02:56 GMT -5
Trump's team are more concerned about Trump himself going overboard with his own character assassination of Harris, and they don't want to make him look worse than it already is. I've chuckled over Trump's declaration that Kamala just decided recently that's she's Black, maybe playing the race card for attention. He needs to be careful -- I saw how she managed to shut Pence up when he tried to talk over her in their discussion.
Harris is an extreme progressive liberal, on the same page with Bernie Sanders and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.. Kamala has done a u-turn and adjusted her extreme views to that of a mainstream blue collar democrat in order to get elected, but she'll revert back to a socialist agenda when in office. I suspect Trump will try to remind voters of just how far left Harris is in the Sept 10th debate. Hard to believe that these 2 clowns are the best America could come up with, I have a feeling we're screwed regardless of who wins.
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Post by fixit on Sept 7, 2024 2:06:07 GMT -5
Trump's team are more concerned about Trump himself going overboard with his own character assassination of Harris, and they don't want to make him look worse than it already is. I've chuckled over Trump's declaration that Kamala just decided recently that's she's Black, maybe playing the race card for attention. He needs to be careful -- I saw how she managed to shut Pence up when he tried to talk over her in their discussion. Harris is an extreme progressive liberal, on the same page with Bernie Sanders and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.. Kamala has done a u-turn and adjusted her extreme views to that of a mainstream blue collar democrat in order to get elected, but she'll revert back to a socialist agenda when in office. I suspect Trump will try to remind voters of just how far left Harris is in the Sept 10th debate. Hard to believe that these 2 clowns are the best America could come up with, I have a feeling we're screwed regardless of who wins.
Harris can't single-handedly lurch America to the left. You really need to focus on getting someone in the White House who values democracy and is not swayed by Russian propaganda.
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