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Post by ipsedixit3 on Aug 28, 2024 17:24:01 GMT -5
So Kamala Harris is finally doing an interview, where we get to learn how she actually feels about.... *a total fracking ban, which she advocated in 2019 when she was running for president, but says she doesn't want anymore.... *a mandatory gun buy-back, to forcible confiscate certain guns from Americans, which she advocated in 2019 when she was running for President... but says she doesn't want anymore.... *decriminalizing illegally crossing the border, which she advocated in 2019 when she was running for President... but says she doesn't want anymore.... *eliminating private insurance in favor of a single-payer model (not the worst idea ever), which she advocated in 2019 when she was running for President... but says she doesn't want anymore.... *a guarantee for federal jobs, which she advocated in 2019 when she was running for President... but says she doesn't want anymore.... *completing Trump's wall on the southern border, which she and every other democrat was against when Trump was president (and his policies weren't leading to a humanitarian crisis on the border), but says now she ..... supports..... The wall is going to be a real test. That was the iconic "Trump and his MAGA racists are evil forever!!!" thing the leftists who have hijacked the once-respectable Democrat party were the most irate about. That was THE thing that proved he was Satan. And now that Biden/Harris' policies have lead to the predictable disaster, she wants to build that wall! It wasn't enough that she stole Trump's 'no taxes on tips' campaign pledge after seeing it was popular. www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/columnist/2024/08/28/harris-border-wall-trump-illegal-immigration/74964956007/------------- I think even the most progressive person could acknowledge that apart from Bernie Sanders, in 2019 running for president, her policy plans were the most left-wing of all the Democrats and it wasn't even close. That was one big reason she never even made it to the first primary in Iowa - even Democrats, when polled, thought she was too far left. And now, it's all about hating Trump. Liberal sources are even perplexed. Here's Vox -> www.vox.com/policy/369177/democrats-kamala-harris-truce-immigration-progressive-border-security"How is Kamala Harris getting away with this?The nominee is pivoting hard to the right on immigration, so why do progressives say they can live with it?
...Presidential candidates pivoting to the middle on key issues ahead of a general election is unsurprising. What is surprising is that, on immigration, the Harris campaign is doing so without facing much opposition from liberal politicians, progressive activists, or even longtime pro-immigrant advocacy groups. Progressive activists and advocates say that truce will likely hold — at least until after Trump is defeated and a more receptive President Kamala Harris is elected...."
Let that sink in. They know that the people who are electing her to represent them do NOT want what she has advocated. They WANT protected borders and they are TIRED of drugs and gang violence pouring across. So Kamala will say that, until after she gets elected. Then she'll be "more receptive"! And then, she can do what she wants. RIP democracy.
Remember ALL of the nonstop news.... how Trump was evil and Satan because of his terrible, horrible wall!? How it was parroted endlessly?? How the media constantly referenced how "divisive" and "inhumane" it was??? Now Kamala is supporting it, and it's like, "m'eh.... we hate Trump. Orange Man bad.... border wall is ok...."
They're not even pretending anymore. And they're counting on the media to do their work for them and counting on Americans being stupid like they were in 2020.
Kamala is finally, bravely, doing a pre-taped an edited interview with the most Kamala-Friendly host on democrat friendly CNN. And she can't even do THAT without her VP there for moral support. It's pathetic. And it's actually insulting to Kamala. She can't do an interview without a man there to help her. Needs to hide behind a man. What an insult. And if she can't do a live interview with no notes and no help, we're all suppose to pretend that she'll be just fine dealing with the Chinese or Russians.
This is a farce.
But none of that reality matters, because Orange man bad. What we're seeing right in front of us is a person who used to have her own ideas and principles (left though they were, she was unique) being told what she stands for by the DNC who installed her and removed Biden without a single vote.
And what's the narrative? Trump is the greatest threat to democracy.
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Post by BobWilliston on Aug 28, 2024 18:22:11 GMT -5
If Trump wins, I just hope that he is reigned in by those around him. I don't always agree with Tulsi Gabbard, but I do admire her for standing up to the power mongers, and continuing to serve in the military. I believe she has been prepping Trump for the Harris debate. Word is that she may have a place in his cabinet. She has always, including while she was a Democrat, favored trump's admiration of Putin. She belongs in Putin's cabinet.
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Post by BobWilliston on Aug 28, 2024 18:43:31 GMT -5
Do you mean Robert Kennedy? He has blood on his hands for lying about Covid vaccines and like his master Trump he shouldn't be allowed anywhere near the reigns of power. I don't agree with him on vaccines, but that is the only thing I disagree with him on. He has been an advocate for food and drug safety for years. If lying about COVID means you have blood on your hands, Dr. Anthony Fauci, the biggest liar of them all (and I say this as a scientist) takes baths in blood. It's interesting how RFK-Jr., Gabbard, Trump and Musk are the media's #1 villains. More than the other right wing politicians which are the actual GOP nutjobs. One thing all 4 of those have in common is that they are all former Democrats.
He's also just plain weird. He cuts the head off a dead whale with a chain saw, and mounts it on his car roof to take home. He takes a dead bear cub to drop off in New York's Central Park.
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Post by ipsedixit3 on Aug 28, 2024 18:47:00 GMT -5
I don't agree with him on vaccines, but that is the only thing I disagree with him on. He has been an advocate for food and drug safety for years. If lying about COVID means you have blood on your hands, Dr. Anthony Fauci, the biggest liar of them all (and I say this as a scientist) takes baths in blood. It's interesting how RFK-Jr., Gabbard, Trump and Musk are the media's #1 villains. More than the other right wing politicians which are the actual GOP nutjobs. One thing all 4 of those have in common is that they are all former Democrats.
He's also just plain weird. He cuts the head off a dead whale with a chain saw, and mounts it on his car roof to take home. He takes a dead bear cub to drop off in New York's Central Park.
You've been listening - that's what you're supposed to say.
But he is a bit weird - or at least he was in his early days. Kennedy money and fame probably aren't the best things for producing well-adjusted youth.
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Post by Pragmatic on Aug 28, 2024 18:51:51 GMT -5
If Trump wins, I just hope that he is reigned in by those around him. I don't always agree with Tulsi Gabbard, but I do admire her for standing up to the power mongers, and continuing to serve in the military. I believe she has been prepping Trump for the Harris debate. Word is that she may have a place in his cabinet. She has always, including while she was a Democrat, favored trump's admiration of Putin. She belongs in Putin's cabinet. No, I disagree with that, and that is a line that Hillary Clinton followed with her Russian Asset comment.
She does believe though, that Putin could be reigned in with the right approach, and that any military 'adventures' need to be clearly defined as to end-goals, exit strategies, expected blow-back and cost.
She ran into trouble when she queried the WH under Obama when the Congress was asked to authorise a bombing in Syria. Rather than answer these questions, the WH simply said, "How dare you" and that was the beginning of her unraveling in the Dems.
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Post by BobWilliston on Aug 28, 2024 19:02:54 GMT -5
She has always, including while she was a Democrat, favored trump's admiration of Putin. She belongs in Putin's cabinet. No, I disagree with that, and that is a line that Hillary Clinton followed with her Russian Asset comment. She does believe though, that Putin could be reigned in with the right approach, and that any military 'adventures' need to be clearly defined as to end-goals, exit strategies, expected blow-back and cost. She ran into trouble when she queried the WH under Obama when the Congress was asked to authorise a bombing in Syria. Rather than answer these questions, the WH simply said, "How dare you" and that was the beginning of her unraveling in the Dems.
Could veery well be - I've not really followed her too much until just recently.
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Post by Dan on Aug 28, 2024 19:07:13 GMT -5
Harris now has a slight lead in all of the swing states, Trump only has an edge in North Carolina.. Kamala would be crazy to agree to a debate, why risk screwing things up when the polls are leaning your way. Can't wait for my $25,000 to help buy another house
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Post by BobWilliston on Aug 28, 2024 19:11:36 GMT -5
He's also just plain weird. He cuts the head off a dead whale with a chain saw, and mounts it on his car roof to take home. He takes a dead bear cub to drop off in New York's Central Park. You've been listening - that's what you're supposed to say. But he is a bit weird - or at least he was in his early days. Kennedy money and fame probably aren't the best things for producing well-adjusted youth.
Kennedy just sold himself to the highest bidder. He started this campaign as a Democrat, and absolutely bombed. Then he campaigned as an Independent, and realized that was not working. The only thing he really has going for him is his last name, so he flattered Trump with it and Trump loved it, so he's cozy. His promise is to help make kids more healthy -- no immunizations, etc. He probably would have a cabinet post if Trump wins. He'd be good for a Secretary of Health and Human Services!!
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Post by BobWilliston on Aug 28, 2024 19:18:04 GMT -5
Harris now has a slight lead in all of the swing states, Trump only has an edge in North Carolina.. Kamala would be crazy to agree to a debate, why risk screwing things up when the polls are leaning your way. Can't wait for my $25,000 to help buy another house Trump is the one who is afraid to debate with her. He's heard how she conducted discussions in the Senate.
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Post by fixit on Aug 28, 2024 20:05:00 GMT -5
His promise is to help make kids more healthy -- no immunizations, etc. He probably would have a cabinet post if Trump wins. He'd be good for a Secretary of Health and Human Services!! That would put the US on a par with North Korea, Papua New Guinea, Somalia, the Central African Republic, and Sudan. If I was American I'd be embarrassed about that. Trumpists are very backward when it comes to science.
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Post by ipsedixit3 on Aug 29, 2024 21:39:19 GMT -5
His promise is to help make kids more healthy -- no immunizations, etc. He probably would have a cabinet post if Trump wins. He'd be good for a Secretary of Health and Human Services!! That would put the US on a par with North Korea, Papua New Guinea, Somalia, the Central African Republic, and Sudan. If I was American I'd be embarrassed about that. Trumpists are very backward when it comes to science. There is a very nuanced discussion that could be had about our medical system and the chronic disease and obesity that Americans suffer from. A large part of that discussion would absolutely involve reforming the FDA. I say this having worked in two different FDA regulated pharmaceutical companies. There are incentives built into our corporate regulatory system that are contrary to public health but are in the interest of business and government. There is also a revolving door problem where the same employees of the large businesses find jobs later on the regulatory side of things without divesting themselves. But nobody wants to really delve into that. So let's just go with: "MSNBC says RFK Jr. it's crazy and wants to turn America into a third world country". So much easier.
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Post by fixit on Aug 29, 2024 22:16:46 GMT -5
That would put the US on a par with North Korea, Papua New Guinea, Somalia, the Central African Republic, and Sudan. If I was American I'd be embarrassed about that. Trumpists are very backward when it comes to science. There is a very nuanced discussion that could be had about our medical system and the chronic disease and obesity that Americans suffer from. A large part of that discussion would absolutely involve reforming the FDA. I say this having worked in two different FDA regulated pharmaceutical companies. There are incentives built into our corporate regulatory system that are contrary to public health but are in the interest of business and government. There is also a revolving door problem where the same employees of the large businesses find jobs later on the regulatory side of things without divesting themselves. But nobody wants to really delve into that. So let's just go with: "MSNBC says RFK Jr. it's crazy and wants to turn America into a third world country". So much easier. Help me out here...do you expect RFK in government to support vaccination or not? www.vox.com/future-perfect/24138291/do-vaccines-work-explained-study-efficacy-evidence
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Post by fixit on Sept 1, 2024 5:28:50 GMT -5
From Counterhate.com.... The Disinformation Dozen are responsible for up to 65% of anti-vaccine content At the outset of this research, we identified a dozen individuals who appeared to be extremely influential creators of digital anti-vaccine content. These individuals were selected either because they run anti-vaccine social media accounts with large numbers of followers, because they produce high volumes of anti-vaccine content or because their growth was accelerating rapidly at the outset of our research in February. Full profiles of each are available at the end of this report. 1. Joseph Mercola 2. Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.3. Ty and Charlene Bollinger 4. Sherri Tenpenny 5. Rizza Islam 6. Rashid Buttar 7. Erin Elizabeth 8. Sayer Ji 9. Kelly Brogan 10. Christiane Northrup 11. Ben Tapper 12. Kevin Jenkins Our analysis of over 812,000 posts extracted from Facebook and Twitter between 1 February and 16 March 2021 shows that 65 percent of anti-vaccine content is attributable to the Disinformation Dozen. www.counterhate.com/disinformationdozen
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Post by ipsedixit3 on Sept 1, 2024 22:05:54 GMT -5
There is a very nuanced discussion that could be had about our medical system and the chronic disease and obesity that Americans suffer from. A large part of that discussion would absolutely involve reforming the FDA. I say this having worked in two different FDA regulated pharmaceutical companies. There are incentives built into our corporate regulatory system that are contrary to public health but are in the interest of business and government. There is also a revolving door problem where the same employees of the large businesses find jobs later on the regulatory side of things without divesting themselves. But nobody wants to really delve into that. So let's just go with: "MSNBC says RFK Jr. it's crazy and wants to turn America into a third world country". So much easier. Help me out here...do you expect RFK in government to support vaccination or not? www.vox.com/future-perfect/24138291/do-vaccines-work-explained-study-efficacy-evidence I expect that he would take a measured approach to safety and public health. Some vaccines are undeniably game changers, and are vital. And are worth the side effects that people might experience. No doubt.
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Post by BobWilliston on Sept 1, 2024 22:08:03 GMT -5
I expect that he would take a measured approach to safety and public health. Some vaccines are undeniably game changers, and are vital. And are worth the side effects that people might experience. No doubt. How about Covid vaccine? RFK campaigned against it.
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Post by ipsedixit3 on Sept 1, 2024 22:09:33 GMT -5
From Counterhate.com.... The Disinformation Dozen are responsible for up to 65% of anti-vaccine content At the outset of this research, we identified a dozen individuals who appeared to be extremely influential creators of digital anti-vaccine content. These individuals were selected either because they run anti-vaccine social media accounts with large numbers of followers, because they produce high volumes of anti-vaccine content or because their growth was accelerating rapidly at the outset of our research in February. Full profiles of each are available at the end of this report. 1. Joseph Mercola 2. Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.3. Ty and Charlene Bollinger 4. Sherri Tenpenny 5. Rizza Islam 6. Rashid Buttar 7. Erin Elizabeth 8. Sayer Ji 9. Kelly Brogan 10. Christiane Northrup 11. Ben Tapper 12. Kevin Jenkins Our analysis of over 812,000 posts extracted from Facebook and Twitter between 1 February and 16 March 2021 shows that 65 percent of anti-vaccine content is attributable to the Disinformation Dozen. www.counterhate.com/disinformationdozen unfortunately, this isn't a forum for actual truthful and honest discussion on any topic. I'll hope that yourself and others don't see everything in terms of black and white.
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Post by ipsedixit3 on Sept 1, 2024 22:23:26 GMT -5
I expect that he would take a measured approach to safety and public health. Some vaccines are undeniably game changers, and are vital. And are worth the side effects that people might experience. No doubt. How about Covid vaccine? RFK campaigned against it. There is ample scientific evidence that the new RNA vaccines cause hypercytokinemia and a variety of other responses which are inferior to the traditional vaccines. To me, the question isn't a black and white issue. Natural immunity, particularity in children, always is best for diseases which aren't chronic or transitioning between host tissue types. This has always been the case. Evolution gave us a complete toolbox for responding to RNA viruses. So essentially, it's complicated. The issue is whether the new RNA vaccines worked better than the traditional antigen vector vaccines (Ie Johnson and Johnson), or rather whether they worked so much better that their universal use in everyone justified the short testing time and rather hasty safety studies. Trump demanded a vaccine (Operation Warp Speed), and on one hand it was astounding. I never thought they'd have anything serviceable before 2022. But they had a whole new type of vaccine, with multiple providers, before 2020 had even ended. But there is a flip side for every coin. I'm trying to be reasonable in my thoughts on it. On balance and totality, I disagree strongly with the anti vaccine movement and RFK Jr's "celebrity place" as a sort of icon in it. On the other hand, there are some very real, very valid points that mainstream science, which has for so long become entangled with politics and media that it has lost its true unbiased essence that gave it value in the first place, has diligently ignored. So truly, it's not a black and white issue.
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Post by ipsedixit3 on Sept 1, 2024 22:28:05 GMT -5
Just in the interest of perspective on the latest "Trump scandal" created out of thin air, maybe hearing from the families that invited Trump to Arlington would help. youtu.be/ZfgDCNjS48I youtu.be/qgLfB6Db7X0
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Post by BobWilliston on Sept 1, 2024 22:38:34 GMT -5
Just in the interest of perspective on the latest "Trump scandal" created out of thin air, maybe hearing from the families that invited Trump to Arlington would help. youtu.be/ZfgDCNjS48I youtu.be/qgLfB6Db7X0The families don't make the laws. Trump was notified beforehand that it was not legal for him to do that. But what's the difference, he was getting a photo op for the veterans he's been denigrating for years. And he's above the law anyway -- isn't he.
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Post by fixit on Sept 1, 2024 23:15:58 GMT -5
How about Covid vaccine? RFK campaigned against it. There is ample scientific evidence that the new RNA vaccines cause hypercytokinemia and a variety of other responses which are inferior to the traditional vaccines. To me, the question isn't a black and white issue. Natural immunity, particularity in children, always is best for diseases which aren't chronic or transitioning between host tissue types. This has always been the case. Evolution gave us a complete toolbox for responding to RNA viruses. Evolution gave us large families and high mortality. Especially high infant mortality. Is that what you really want for America, which has been a world leader of science and development? Infant mortality (from live birth to 12 months old) in the US dropped from 60 per 1000 in 1935 to 6 per thousand in 2015. It seems backward to choose to multiply the child death rate by ten times for ideological reasons.
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Post by Pragmatic on Sept 2, 2024 3:17:44 GMT -5
The Covid vaccines, especially the Pfizer mRNA in our country have saved a lot of lives. And yes there have been a few deaths, mainly due to Myocarditis and Pericarditis. I have had five doses now, with two boosters and the latest bivalent dose. No side effects apart from the usual heavy arm for 24 hours.
During the height of the vaccination flurry, for political reasons more than medical reasons I suspect, the gap between the first and second booster was shortened from six months to three months. I waited until six months for second booster, but my wife had her second booster after only three months.
Within a few weeks she developed shortness of breath, and was eventually hospitalised with acute Pulmonary Embolisms. It was touch and go. We are aware of five other cases of this, and two deaths. So I have a foot in both camps, although I am pro-vaccine generally, and will be having my next bi-valent dose within a month. Also the Shingles Vaccine.
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Post by Annan on Sept 2, 2024 6:31:25 GMT -5
The Covid vaccines, especially the Pfizer mRNA in our country have saved a lot of lives. And yes there have been a few deaths, mainly due to Myocarditis and Pericarditis. I have had five doses now, with two boosters and the latest bivalent dose. No side effects apart from the usual heavy arm for 24 hours. During the height of the vaccination flurry, for political reasons more than medical reasons I suspect, the gap between the first and second booster was shortened from six months to three months. I waited until six months for second booster, but my wife had her second booster after only three months. Within a few weeks she developed shortness of breath, and was eventually hospitalised with acute Pulmonary Embolisms. It was touch and go. We are aware of five other cases of this, and two deaths. So I have a foot in both camps, although I am pro-vaccine generally, and will be having my next bi-valent dose within a month. Also the Shingles Vaccine. I had covid before I was able to get the vaccine. When I got the vaccine and one booster, I was sicker than I was with covid. My legs turned to jelly and I lost control of both my bladder and bowels. (How embarrassing.) I'm done with the covid boosters. It could be just a coincidence, but my health has fallen apart since then. I developed diabetes and arthritis. I will get this year's flu shot, although I have had reactions off and on over the years.
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Post by ipsedixit3 on Sept 2, 2024 13:13:57 GMT -5
Just in the interest of perspective on the latest "Trump scandal" created out of thin air, maybe hearing from the families that invited Trump to Arlington would help. youtu.be/ZfgDCNjS48I youtu.be/qgLfB6Db7X0The families don't make the laws. Trump was notified beforehand that it was not legal for him to do that. But what's the difference, he was getting a photo op for the veterans he's been denigrating for years. And he's above the law anyway -- isn't he. www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/biden-marks-memorial-day-wreath-laying-arlington-national/story%3fid=85068146Biden also getting a photo during the wreath-laying ceremony. But there was no outcry then. The families invited Trump. Not Biden. Nor Harris. Watch the families in their own words and tell me which president THEY feel (not Bob feels) denigrated the military. You're detached from reality.
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Post by ipsedixit3 on Sept 2, 2024 13:17:20 GMT -5
As Annon and Pragmatic both illustrated, the new RNA vaccines had some issues that traditional vaccines generally don't. Their experiences are those of millions.
However, on a whole, the vaccines were effective. Healthy children generally develop only mild signs and symptoms.
The discussion isn't black and white.
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Post by BobWilliston on Sept 2, 2024 17:23:59 GMT -5
The Covid vaccines, especially the Pfizer mRNA in our country have saved a lot of lives. And yes there have been a few deaths, mainly due to Myocarditis and Pericarditis. I have had five doses now, with two boosters and the latest bivalent dose. No side effects apart from the usual heavy arm for 24 hours. During the height of the vaccination flurry, for political reasons more than medical reasons I suspect, the gap between the first and second booster was shortened from six months to three months. I waited until six months for second booster, but my wife had her second booster after only three months. Within a few weeks she developed shortness of breath, and was eventually hospitalised with acute Pulmonary Embolisms. It was touch and go. We are aware of five other cases of this, and two deaths. So I have a foot in both camps, although I am pro-vaccine generally, and will be having my next bi-valent dose within a month. Also the Shingles Vaccine. I'm with you. I had my latest shots for Covid and the flu just two days ago. Virtually no reaction. I had a few days in the hospital in 2020 with shortness of breath while the hospital was full of people dying from Covid, but they told me I had congestive heart failure. I was relieved, but I remain quite free any heart difficulties and another specialist told me I definitely had Covid, but because I'd had the vaccine I didn't suffer so badly. He told me that the hospital had Covid tests that weren't reliable. Whatever -- it's nothing more than increasing your odds no matter what you are doing.
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Post by BobWilliston on Sept 2, 2024 17:31:05 GMT -5
The families don't make the laws. Trump was notified beforehand that it was not legal for him to do that. But what's the difference, he was getting a photo op for the veterans he's been denigrating for years. And he's above the law anyway -- isn't he. www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/biden-marks-memorial-day-wreath-laying-arlington-national/story%3fid=85068146Biden also getting a photo during the wreath-laying ceremony. But there was no outcry then. The families invited Trump. Not Biden. Nor Harris. Watch the families in their own words and tell me which president THEY feel (not Bob feels) denigrated the military. You're detached from reality. I'm not detached from reality. There is a difference -- legally, though you don't care for it. Biden stayed where politicians are expected to stay when laying wreaths. He did not go with families to individual burial places for photo ops, and Trump had been told ahead of time not to go there. Furthermore, he wasn't there are a government official at all -- he was only there as a political candidate for office. You're treating him like he's already a public official.
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Post by ipsedixit3 on Sept 2, 2024 18:13:44 GMT -5
I'm not detached from reality. There is a difference -- legally, though you don't care for it. Biden stayed where politicians are expected to stay when laying wreaths. He did not go with families to individual burial places for photo ops, and Trump had been told ahead of time not to go there. Furthermore, he wasn't there are a government official at all -- he was only there as a political candidate for office. You're treating him like he's already a public official. But that's what the families wanted. Within an hour of Kamala posting her tweet, 5 or 6 of them had already recorded video responses ripped her to shreds. This is the country we live in. A perfect illustration. Imagine... your child is killed because a president and vp couldn't be bothered to listen to their military and adjust the pullout date and plan because they wanted the symbolic optics of leaving on 9/11. In doing so, your child is killed among with 12 other military members. As well as 40+ other military and hundreds of Afghans. Your president says "big success" with a thumbs up, and neither him nor his VP ever contact you. They never even mention your child's name. You know who does privately contact you? Before it is reported he's even planning on it? Donald Trump. And he's furious. He sits down with you and the other families personally. He listens to you. He says your child's name. He then goes on to honour them publicly. The latest time being at the 2024 RNC. So who do you invite to Arlington to be with you? The person who has been there for you from the beginning. You also ask for photos to be taken. Hell, he even FaceTimes and talks to a mother who couldn't be there in person. And after ALL that, the media says... "Aaaaa!! Trump broke a law!! You can't take pictures at Arlington!! (Wait.... Biden did it?) Er... well, a private citizen can't take pictures there! And Trump's not technically holding public office!" And the VP tweets how terrible and shameful it was. The lady who had NEVER served in the military and who chose a running mate who is despised by the people he served with for a bunch of reasons... Please, in your heart of hearts, tell me you understand how insane this latest "Get the Trump" story is. It's like they keep coming up with BS and just seeing what the American people will keep swallowing.
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Post by fixit on Sept 3, 2024 3:49:42 GMT -5
As Annon and Pragmatic both illustrated, the new RNA vaccines had some issues that traditional vaccines generally don't. Their experiences are those of millions. However, on a whole, the vaccines were effective. Healthy children generally develop only mild signs and symptoms. The discussion isn't black and white. Let me simplify it for you: When you put a militant anti-vaxxer in change of health... Do you expect more people or less people will die? www.science.org/content/blog-post/note-robert-f-kennedy-jr
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