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Post by sheri01 on Jun 3, 2023 15:56:57 GMT -5
Hello all,
I want you to understand what we’re up against. I learned last night that meeting has been removed from a home that refused to allow a convicted and prolific pedophile to attend meetings there. For some background, we have been working on this case since the inception of the hotline.
It was brought to our attention that a former Worker was removed from the work for abusing kids in the early 1970’s. He then went on to marry an unsuspecting professing girl. The Workers did not warn her of her future husband’s pedophilia. The pedophile went on to abuse countless numbers of children. He was eventually arrested in the early 1980’s and served time in prison. At the time, law enforcement thought he might have between 100 and 200 victims.
This is my understanding of recent events: In 2014, the pedophile was allowed to return to meetings. At first, safety measures were put in place (i.e., no meetings with children, required to sit in the front row at gospel meetings, etc.) Eventually those safety measures fell by the wayside and he was in meetings with children. When we learned of the case, some of the Friends had already been pleading with the Workers and the Overseer to have the pedophile removed from meetings because of grave concerns about his behavior. Their pleas fell on deaf ears. In April, under much pressure, the Overseer finally asked the pedophile to refrain from coming to meetings. He was allowed to call in and participate; however, within the first week, he shared a disturbing testimony and he was informed he could no longer call in. Within weeks, he showed up for meeting in person. The homeowner asked him to leave. In the past couple of weeks, meeting was removed from that home. This particular issue is dividing families, the Friends, and the community.
I have interviewed six survivors whose lives were forever altered because of this pedophile. I can assure you he has left a path of destruction in his wake. Not one of the Friends or Workers advocating on behalf of the pedophile have reached out to inquire about the victims.
The effort to have pedophiles removed from the fellowship is causing huge division. I cannot tell you how perplexing this is to me. Institutions have a duty to keep their communities safe -- especially the children -- and society expects it. Why are some of the Workers and Friends fighting so hard on behalf of pedophiles?
Cynthia
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Post by snow on Jun 3, 2023 16:15:41 GMT -5
Hello all, I want you to understand what we’re up against. I learned last night that meeting has been removed from a home that refused to allow a convicted and prolific pedophile to attend meetings there. For some background, we have been working on this case since the inception of the hotline. It was brought to our attention that a former Worker was removed from the work for abusing kids in the early 1970’s. He then went on to marry an unsuspecting professing girl. The Workers did not warn her of her future husband’s pedophilia. The pedophile went on to abuse countless numbers of children. He was eventually arrested in the early 1980’s and served time in prison. At the time, law enforcement thought he might have between 100 and 200 victims. This is my understanding of recent events: In 2014, the pedophile was allowed to return to meetings. At first, safety measures were put in place (i.e., no meetings with children, required to sit in the front row at gospel meetings, etc.) Eventually those safety measures fell by the wayside and he was in meetings with children. When we learned of the case, some of the Friends had already been pleading with the Workers and the Overseer to have the pedophile removed from meetings because of grave concerns about his behavior. Their pleas fell on deaf ears. In April, under much pressure, the Overseer finally asked the pedophile to refrain from coming to meetings. He was allowed to call in and participate; however, within the first week, he shared a disturbing testimony and he was informed he could no longer call in. Within weeks, he showed up for meeting in person. The homeowner asked him to leave. In the past couple of weeks, meeting was removed from that home. This particular issue is dividing families, the Friends, and the community. I have interviewed six survivors whose lives were forever altered because of this pedophile. I can assure you he has left a path of destruction in his wake. Not one of the Friends or Workers advocating on behalf of the pedophile have reached out to inquire about the victims. The effort to have pedophiles removed from the fellowship is causing huge division. I cannot tell you how perplexing this is to me. Institutions have a duty to keep their communities safe -- especially the children -- and society expects it. Why are some of the Workers and Friends fighting so hard on behalf of pedophiles?Cynthia It's beyond understanding. If we could understand it probably wouldn't be a good thing. Has there been any move by law enforcement to talk to these workers about enabling a pedophile? They are just as guilty knowingly allowing this to happen and then when the friends stood up and tried to make sure children were safe they got their meeting taken away! That's unconscionable.
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Post by neighbour on Jun 3, 2023 16:19:41 GMT -5
Hello all, I want you to understand what we’re up against. I learned last night that meeting has been removed from a home that refused to allow a convicted and prolific pedophile to attend meetings there. For some background, we have been working on this case since the inception of the hotline. It was brought to our attention that a former Worker was removed from the work for abusing kids in the early 1970’s. He then went on to marry an unsuspecting professing girl. The Workers did not warn her of her future husband’s pedophilia. The pedophile went on to abuse countless numbers of children. He was eventually arrested in the early 1980’s and served time in prison. At the time, law enforcement thought he might have between 100 and 200 victims. This is my understanding of recent events: In 2014, the pedophile was allowed to return to meetings. At first, safety measures were put in place (i.e., no meetings with children, required to sit in the front row at gospel meetings, etc.) Eventually those safety measures fell by the wayside and he was in meetings with children. When we learned of the case, some of the Friends had already been pleading with the Workers and the Overseer to have the pedophile removed from meetings because of grave concerns about his behavior. Their pleas fell on deaf ears. In April, under much pressure, the Overseer finally asked the pedophile to refrain from coming to meetings. He was allowed to call in and participate; however, within the first week, he shared a disturbing testimony and he was informed he could no longer call in. Within weeks, he showed up for meeting in person. The homeowner asked him to leave. In the past couple of weeks, meeting was removed from that home. This particular issue is dividing families, the Friends, and the community. I have interviewed six survivors whose lives were forever altered because of this pedophile. I can assure you he has left a path of destruction in his wake. Not one of the Friends or Workers advocating on behalf of the pedophile have reached out to inquire about the victims. The effort to have pedophiles removed from the fellowship is causing huge division. I cannot tell you how perplexing this is to me. Institutions have a duty to keep their communities safe -- especially the children -- and society expects it. Why are some of the Workers and Friends fighting so hard on behalf of pedophiles?Cynthia There's so much to unpack, but it's rooted deeply in meeting attendance = salvation. Basically if someone wants to attend meetings and placates the workers, they *have* to be allowed attendance. You'll notice the only people permanently denied fellowship have an unresolved disagreement with the workers. If one professes "The workers are God's true servants" and accept whatever the overseer's opinion is, they *will* find a meeting for you to attend.
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Post by openingact34 on Jun 3, 2023 16:35:16 GMT -5
Why are some of the Workers and Friends fighting so hard on behalf of pedophiles? [/b] Cynthia[/quote] It defies all human reasoning. But this is God's Kingdom, not of man. I assign their actions to the torture monster in the sky who directs this sex cult and has a documented criminal record against humanity in the Bible.
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Post by eef on Jun 3, 2023 17:28:42 GMT -5
I have never posted before, but I cannot remain silent after reading this post.
This is a travesty of what is moral common sense and what Jesus taught. I want to publicly state I disdain and abhor this behavior.
Eric Fendler Bozeman, Montana
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Post by Umfolozi on Jun 3, 2023 19:54:08 GMT -5
I say go to the news channels with this. Why not?
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Post by jwatt on Jun 3, 2023 20:14:12 GMT -5
Think it's time for law enforcement and media involvement. Everyone who knew this was happening, and hid it and sounds like plenty are continuing to hide it seriously need prison time and then restrictions. Brought up in this cult, left 30 years ago, I was told these people were the safest people on the earth and no safer place than convention. Well how wrong! Thanks to these ladies trying their hardest to deal with this and well done to those who have spoken up about. Just makes me angry to hear of all these cases! So sad.
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Post by bfvernon on Jun 3, 2023 20:14:35 GMT -5
Cynthia, In Australia there was a huge case of CSA within the Catholic Church. It was proven that there was a disproportionate number of pedophiles in the Ballarat Diocese. The bishop of that diocese was Cardinal George Pell. He enabled the movement of pedophiles around the diocese. Later, he himself was convicted of the same crime, but the conviction was later overturned. I always suspected that he protected the pedophiles in his community BECAUSE HE HIMSELF WAS GUILTY OF THE SAME BEHAVIOUR.
I strongly suspect that it’s the same in the 2x2 leadership.
Barbara barbarafk58@gmail.com
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Post by midwest on Jun 3, 2023 20:17:33 GMT -5
This ex-worker Cynthia is referencing, can his initials be shared or just his first initial?
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Post by mountain on Jun 4, 2023 4:39:23 GMT -5
Cynthia, In Australia there was a huge case of CSA within the Catholic Church. It was proven that there was a disproportionate number of pedophiles in the Ballarat Diocese. The bishop of that diocese was Cardinal George Pell. He enabled the movement of pedophiles around the diocese. Later, he himself was convicted of the same crime, but the conviction was later overturned. I always suspected that he protected the pedophiles in his community BECAUSE HE HIMSELF WAS GUILTY OF THE SAME BEHAVIOUR.
I strongly suspect that it’s the same in the 2x2 leadership. Barbara barbarafk58@gmail.com Undoubtedly this is the case and logically explains the unexplainable!
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Post by mountain on Jun 4, 2023 4:45:52 GMT -5
This ex-worker Cynthia is referencing, can his initials be shared or just his first initial? If he has been convicted in a court of law for these offences, his name is in the public domain. There should be no issue with naming him here or anywhere else. I am making no suggestions but public action can be taken to shame him into not attending meetings voluntarily, which of course would be a crime prevention/child protection measure.
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Post by scooter123 on Jun 4, 2023 5:14:47 GMT -5
Narcissism and the Systems It Breeds-by Diane Langberg. Find it on U tube. It explains so much about why people remain and even defend this kind of behavior.
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Post by snow on Jun 4, 2023 13:10:22 GMT -5
I say go to the news channels with this. Why not? I think of that is about to happen in Canada. I'm not sure why it hasn't happened in the states yet though.
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Post by snow on Jun 4, 2023 13:13:21 GMT -5
This ex-worker Cynthia is referencing, can his initials be shared or just his first initial? If he has been convicted in a court of law for these offences, his name is in the public domain. There should be no issue with naming him here or anywhere else. I am making no suggestions but public action can be taken to shame him into not attending meetings voluntarily, which of course would be a crime prevention/child protection measure. Well 60 minutes in Australia did expose it but I'm not sure how much impact it had on the actual group there. It's put down to be bitter exes or worldly people, what can you expect from them, ignore them.
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Post by jane on Jun 4, 2023 13:19:37 GMT -5
Hello all, I want you to understand what we’re up against. I learned last night that meeting has been removed from a home that refused to allow a convicted and prolific pedophile to attend meetings there. For some background, we have been working on this case since the inception of the hotline. It was brought to our attention that a former Worker was removed from the work for abusing kids in the early 1970’s. He then went on to marry an unsuspecting professing girl. The Workers did not warn her of her future husband’s pedophilia. The pedophile went on to abuse countless numbers of children. He was eventually arrested in the early 1980’s and served time in prison. At the time, law enforcement thought he might have between 100 and 200 victims. This is my understanding of recent events: In 2014, the pedophile was allowed to return to meetings. At first, safety measures were put in place (i.e., no meetings with children, required to sit in the front row at gospel meetings, etc.) Eventually those safety measures fell by the wayside and he was in meetings with children. When we learned of the case, some of the Friends had already been pleading with the Workers and the Overseer to have the pedophile removed from meetings because of grave concerns about his behavior. Their pleas fell on deaf ears. In April, under much pressure, the Overseer finally asked the pedophile to refrain from coming to meetings. He was allowed to call in and participate; however, within the first week, he shared a disturbing testimony and he was informed he could no longer call in. Within weeks, he showed up for meeting in person. The homeowner asked him to leave. In the past couple of weeks, meeting was removed from that home. This particular issue is dividing families, the Friends, and the community. I have interviewed six survivors whose lives were forever altered because of this pedophile. I can assure you he has left a path of destruction in his wake. Not one of the Friends or Workers advocating on behalf of the pedophile have reached out to inquire about the victims. The effort to have pedophiles removed from the fellowship is causing huge division. I cannot tell you how perplexing this is to me. Institutions have a duty to keep their communities safe -- especially the children -- and society expects it. Why are some of the Workers and Friends fighting so hard on behalf of pedophiles?Cynthia Thank you for this letter and all the correspondence you have made. If it wasn't for you sharing what you know, so many of us would be in the dark. This situation and so many others are wrong. Simply wrong. And if the friends knew-I think there would be some pushback and more questions. I think the overseers and workers in charge are hoping this blows over and that the friends are not privy to these situations. Thank you for sharing. Thank you for shining a light on this. Please continue to keep us informed and we can continue to share, share, share. We can encourage to everyone to ask questions, demand change and not stand for this ungodly behavior.
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Post by mountain on Jun 4, 2023 14:10:29 GMT -5
If he has been convicted in a court of law for these offences, his name is in the public domain. There should be no issue with naming him here or anywhere else. I am making no suggestions but public action can be taken to shame him into not attending meetings voluntarily, which of course would be a crime prevention/child protection measure. Well 60 minutes in Australia did expose it but I'm not sure how much impact it had on the actual group there. It's put down to be bitter exes or worldly people, what can you expect from them, ignore them. At least the warning part will have been done. You can only do what you can do.
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Post by lk1243 on Jun 11, 2023 21:00:02 GMT -5
Hello all, I want you to understand what we’re up against. I learned last night that meeting has been removed from a home that refused to allow a convicted and prolific pedophile to attend meetings there. For some background, we have been working on this case since the inception of the hotline. It was brought to our attention that a former Worker was removed from the work for abusing kids in the early 1970’s. He then went on to marry an unsuspecting professing girl. The Workers did not warn her of her future husband’s pedophilia. The pedophile went on to abuse countless numbers of children. He was eventually arrested in the early 1980’s and served time in prison. At the time, law enforcement thought he might have between 100 and 200 victims. This is my understanding of recent events: In 2014, the pedophile was allowed to return to meetings. At first, safety measures were put in place (i.e., no meetings with children, required to sit in the front row at gospel meetings, etc.) Eventually those safety measures fell by the wayside and he was in meetings with children. When we learned of the case, some of the Friends had already been pleading with the Workers and the Overseer to have the pedophile removed from meetings because of grave concerns about his behavior. Their pleas fell on deaf ears. In April, under much pressure, the Overseer finally asked the pedophile to refrain from coming to meetings. He was allowed to call in and participate; however, within the first week, he shared a disturbing testimony and he was informed he could no longer call in. Within weeks, he showed up for meeting in person. The homeowner asked him to leave. In the past couple of weeks, meeting was removed from that home. This particular issue is dividing families, the Friends, and the community. I have interviewed six survivors whose lives were forever altered because of this pedophile. I can assure you he has left a path of destruction in his wake. Not one of the Friends or Workers advocating on behalf of the pedophile have reached out to inquire about the victims. The effort to have pedophiles removed from the fellowship is causing huge division. I cannot tell you how perplexing this is to me. Institutions have a duty to keep their communities safe -- especially the children -- and society expects it. Why are some of the Workers and Friends fighting so hard on behalf of pedophiles?Cynthia We need to be really clear where we are. The church must do everything it can to destroy pedophilia, even while the world around us tries to normalize it.
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on Jun 11, 2023 21:25:36 GMT -5
Thanks ladies ! You are appreciated 🙃
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Post by verna on Jun 11, 2023 21:26:14 GMT -5
Hello all, I want you to understand what we’re up against. I learned last night that meeting has been removed from a home that refused to allow a convicted and prolific pedophile to attend meetings there. For some background, we have been working on this case since the inception of the hotline. It was brought to our attention that a former Worker was removed from the work for abusing kids in the early 1970’s. He then went on to marry an unsuspecting professing girl. The Workers did not warn her of her future husband’s pedophilia. The pedophile went on to abuse countless numbers of children. He was eventually arrested in the early 1980’s and served time in prison. At the time, law enforcement thought he might have between 100 and 200 victims. This is my understanding of recent events: In 2014, the pedophile was allowed to return to meetings. At first, safety measures were put in place (i.e., no meetings with children, required to sit in the front row at gospel meetings, etc.) Eventually those safety measures fell by the wayside and he was in meetings with children. When we learned of the case, some of the Friends had already been pleading with the Workers and the Overseer to have the pedophile removed from meetings because of grave concerns about his behavior. Their pleas fell on deaf ears. In April, under much pressure, the Overseer finally asked the pedophile to refrain from coming to meetings. He was allowed to call in and participate; however, within the first week, he shared a disturbing testimony and he was informed he could no longer call in. Within weeks, he showed up for meeting in person. The homeowner asked him to leave. In the past couple of weeks, meeting was removed from that home. This particular issue is dividing families, the Friends, and the community. I have interviewed six survivors whose lives were forever altered because of this pedophile. I can assure you he has left a path of destruction in his wake. Not one of the Friends or Workers advocating on behalf of the pedophile have reached out to inquire about the victims. The effort to have pedophiles removed from the fellowship is causing huge division. I cannot tell you how perplexing this is to me. Institutions have a duty to keep their communities safe -- especially the children -- and society expects it. Why are some of the Workers and Friends fighting so hard on behalf of pedophiles?Cynthia We need to be really clear where we are. The church must do everything it can to destroy pedophilia, even while the world around us tries to normalize it. Do tell. I don’t see the world trying to normalize pedophilia.
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Post by lk1243 on Jun 11, 2023 22:07:08 GMT -5
We need to be really clear where we are. The church must do everything it can to destroy pedophilia, even while the world around us tries to normalize it. Do tell. I don’t see the world trying to normalize pedophilia. I'm guessing you're also one of the folks who somehow didn't notice when the world was trying to normalize homosexuality? You have to look around to see something. Life doesn't just hand you useful knowledge unless someone else profits by it.
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Post by verna on Jun 11, 2023 22:31:54 GMT -5
Do tell. I don’t see the world trying to normalize pedophilia. I'm guessing you're also one of the folks who somehow didn't notice when the world was trying to normalize homosexuality? You have to look around to see something. Life doesn't just hand you useful knowledge unless someone else profits by it. Not picking up what you’re laying down. Some of my favourite people are homosexual. None of my bloody business.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2023 1:12:26 GMT -5
We need to be really clear where we are. The church must do everything it can to destroy pedophilia, even while the world around us tries to normalize it. Do tell. I don’t see the world trying to normalize pedophilia. I've mentioned that quite a few times here but no one believes it's happening...wake up call coming folks...
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Post by BobWilliston on Jun 12, 2023 2:00:56 GMT -5
Do tell. I don’t see the world trying to normalize pedophilia. I'm guessing you're also one of the folks who somehow didn't notice when the world was trying to normalize homosexuality? You have to look around to see something. Life doesn't just hand you useful knowledge unless someone else profits by it. Your politics is showing through.
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Post by BobWilliston on Jun 12, 2023 2:02:37 GMT -5
Same as Wally's. Do tell. I don’t see the world trying to normalize pedophilia. I've mentioned that quite a few times here but no one believes it's happening...wake up call coming folks...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2023 8:20:21 GMT -5
Same as Wally's. I've mentioned that quite a few times here but no one believes it's happening...wake up call coming folks... Warnings of pedophilia's has nothing to do with politics Mr. eel...
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Post by snow on Jun 12, 2023 13:11:27 GMT -5
Do tell. I don’t see the world trying to normalize pedophilia. I've mentioned that quite a few times here but no one believes it's happening...wake up call coming folks... Pedophilia is a condition. Acting on it is a criminal act. No way is anyone ever going to normalize it. You act on it and you will always have consequences for acting on the temptation. End of story.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2023 14:28:46 GMT -5
I've mentioned that quite a few times here but no one believes it's happening...wake up call coming folks... Pedophilia is a condition. Acting on it is a criminal act. No way is anyone ever going to normalize it. You act on it and you will always have consequences for acting on the temptation. End of story. There is a bit happening you may not be aware of...heads up...
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Post by snow on Jun 12, 2023 14:38:26 GMT -5
Pedophilia is a condition. Acting on it is a criminal act. No way is anyone ever going to normalize it. You act on it and you will always have consequences for acting on the temptation. End of story. There is a bit happening you may not be aware of...heads up... What is happening wally? Are they deciding not to charge pedophiles?
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