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Post by magpies39plus on Nov 20, 2022 16:58:10 GMT -5
Jesus gave His Church many gifts,for the growth and strength of his followers.
EPHESIANS 4 v 11,12( Remember "ALL" scripture is inspired by God)
Now the following speakers are teachers"not gospel Preachers"
TODAY---we see so many prophetic signs taking place and being fulfilled,don;t we?
Ephesians Ch 37-39,Garry Hamrick.
Dr David Jerimiah.many subjects.
Isiaih 53 A fulfilled prophecy,Behold Israel,Speaker Amir Tsafarti.
Christian Darg, Very clear weekly talks on Biblical signs of today.
The forbidden Chapter,"One for Israel".
Johnathan Cahn a Jewish Christian - and a wow of a teacher!!
Also a good speaker who bind the above into his teachings
John Macarthur.
"REMEMBER"these are using one of God's gifts given to the Body of Christ by Jesus.
Just like it says a Pastor,Apostle,Evangelist,etc,each have a seperate gift given them
by Jesus, "WHY",can't ignore that can we? Let the Holy Spirit take your hand as you
go through these teachings.
Walking in the Holy Spirit - Dr John Stanley. Good to absorb.
MAGPIE
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Post by openingact34 on Nov 20, 2022 20:46:34 GMT -5
Jesus gave His Church many gifts,for the growth and strength of his followers. EPHESIANS 4 v 11,12( Remember "ALL" scripture is inspired by God) Now the following speakers are teachers"not gospel Preachers" TODAY---we see so many prophetic signs taking place and being fulfilled,don;t we? Ephesians Ch 37-39,Garry Hamrick. Dr David Jerimiah.many subjects. Isiaih 53 A fulfilled prophecy,Behold Israel,Speaker Amir Tsafarti. Christian Darg, Very clear weekly talks on Biblical signs of today. The forbidden Chapter,"One for Israel". Johnathan Cahn a Jewish Christian - and a wow of a teacher!! Also a good speaker who bind the above into his teachings John Macarthur. "REMEMBER"these are using one of God's gifts given to the Body of Christ by Jesus. Just like it says a Pastor,Apostle,Evangelist,etc,each have a seperate gift given them by Jesus, "WHY",can't ignore that can we? Let the Holy Spirit take your hand as you go through these teachings. Walking in the Holy Spirit - Dr John Stanley. Good to absorb. MAGPIE For shame Magpie. I need to look into these other preachers. But I can tell you about John MacArthur. He excommunicated a woman (Eileen Gray) who left her violent and abusive husband. Today, the husband (David Gray) is serving 21 years to life in prison for molesting their children. Oh, by the way, David Gray was an employee of John MacArthur's church. Multiple pastors were cited by the LA Police Department as failing to report child abuse, and documentation shows that David Gray admitted details of the abuse to them. Here is the video of Pastor John doing the excommunication. Isn't it so beautiful how they sing "Amazing Grace" to the abused woman? Read many more of the stomach turning details at: julieroys.com/macarthur-shamed-excommunicated-mother-take-back-child-abuser/ |
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Post by magpies39plus on Nov 20, 2022 21:48:22 GMT -5
dear opening act.Why the speakers? It is the prophetic chapters explained clearly,doesn't matter if they are like Robots,THE WORDS!! Was it a 2x2 Irvingist Preacher who Exe'd him?? So there is others to listen to,isn't there? Cross reference any points you may not accept with "scripture". There is around 1800 prophetic pieces of scripture. This is like the song,"This I believe" Hillsong. Yes the Pedophile history of the Hillsong founder has spoilt it for the rest. BUT as a victim of a 2x2 Preacher's molesting and the history in this little State's 2x2 Preachers,2x jailed a few years ( 8-10),the destroyed lives they and others victims is horrible,sickening. When we were teens 1950's we spent a lot of convention time talking about which Brother."Sister"!!we did not want in our district. One low teens girl was nearly uncontrolable in here cryings.WHY? A certain Sister Preacher was returning to her district!!!! We have from this mob with mentally disordered pedophiles,people leave,suicides and mental health issues.Sound like a Christ Like lot? They would say"Oh you will grow out of it" "it will be best if you don't talk about it" OH I forgot we must remove the beam from our eyes before even looking at the splinter in another ones eye,don't we??
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Post by magpies39plus on Nov 20, 2022 21:53:51 GMT -5
Here is a powerful one,""The resurrection of Russia"",a David Jeramiah 2022. Sadly not a good resurrection.
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Post by openingact34 on Nov 20, 2022 21:58:04 GMT -5
dear opening act.Why the speakers? It is the prophetic chapters explained clearly,doesn't matter if they are like Robots,THE WORDS!! Was it a 2x2 Irvingist Preacher who Exe'd him?? So there is others to listen to,isn't there? Cross reference any points you may not accept with "scripture". There is around 1800 prophetic pieces of scripture. This is like the song,"This I believe" Hillsong. Yes the Pedophile history of the Hillsong founder has spoilt it for the rest. BUT as a victim of a 2x2 Preacher's molesting and the history in this little State's 2x2 Preachers,2x jailed a few years ( 8-10),the destroyed lives they and others victims is horrible,sickening. When we were teens 1950's we spent a lot of convention time talking about which Brother."Sister"!!we did not want in our district. One low teens girl was nearly uncontrolable in here cryings.WHY? A certain Sister Preacher was returning to her district!!!! We have from this mob with mentally disordered pedophiles,people leave,suicides and mental health issues.Sound like a Christ Like lot? They would say"Oh you will grow out of it" "it will be best if you don't talk about it" OH I forgot we must remove the beam from our eyes before even looking at the splinter in another ones eye,don't we?? HOW DARE YOU ACCUSE ME OF HAVING A BEAM IN MY EYE AND PROTECTING SOME PEDOPHILE OR WORSE LIKE YOUR PRECIOUS PASTORS I WOULD REPORT THEM IN AN INSTANT |
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Post by openingact34 on Nov 20, 2022 22:27:17 GMT -5
Dr. David Jeremiah Unethical scammer apparently. Spends hundreds of thousands of dollars buying his own books so that they appear on the New York Times bestseller lists  This scam is part of what took down Pastor Mark Driscoll, but somehow David Jeremiah survives. wng.org/articles/buying-a-bestseller-1617327259 |
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Post by openingact34 on Nov 20, 2022 22:43:16 GMT -5
WOW, look at Dr. David Jeremiah grinding for that money on Jim Bakker's TV show! You can really measure a man by the company he keeps  Go read Jim's Wikipedia page for a good laugh. It charitably calls him a "American televangelist and convicted fraudster". en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Bakker- Audited by the IRS which found that he had embezzled millions for personal use
- Sleeping with his secretary and paying her off with hundreds of thousands of dollars when she accused him of rape
- Convicted on 24 counts of mail fraud, wire fraud and conspiracy and sentenced to 45 years in prison for scamming gullible religious viewers out of millions
- Prosecuted by the US government for selling a silver solution that he claimed would cure COVID
Even scumbag preacher Jerry Fallwell Sr. called Jim Bakker "the greatest scab and cancer on the face of Christianity in 2,000 years of church history". After a school shooting, Baaker reported on his TV show: '“God came to me in a dream last night, and he was wearing camouflage, a hunting vest and had an AR-15 strapped to his back. To me, that is a sign that he is against gun control. God ordained Donald Trump and he supports his plan to arm teachers.” |
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Post by openingact34 on Nov 20, 2022 22:59:47 GMT -5
Jonathan Cahn....I should have recognized that name. Another moron preacher who babbles on about how Trump was prophesized and annointed by God. Oh, and Cahn is also a failed doomsday prophet and a Televangelist Grifter. 'Mr. Cahn promotes his work aggressively in Christian media, appearing regularly on “The Jim Bakker Show,” “Sid Roth’s It’s Supernatural!” and “The 700 Club,” where he draws upon his Jewish background, using the title of rabbi or wrapping himself in a prayer shawl emblazoned with the Beth Israel logo.' www.nytimes.com/2019/03/15/nyregion/trump-preacher-magachurch.htmlMagpie, you need to stop listening to Cherie Kropp's recommendations for pastors, its going to fry your brains with their nonsense |
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Post by magpies39plus on Nov 20, 2022 23:57:20 GMT -5
Dear old Opening Act,So you don't care about the unbiblical act of Pqedophelia in the 2x2 Irvinist doctrine. You of course would sort the (GOD"S) Holy Spirits guidence for your above entries. Have thought for all over the World celibate Ministries are infiltrated with Paedophelia. What do you think about such scripture((from Paul the Apostle the Preachers used to tell us they were a direct line of His Ministry) READ SLOWLY SEVERAL TIMES THE FOLLOWING VERSES ??
1 Corinthians 9 v 11/12 Haven't I the right to follow the example of the other Apostles and the Lord's brothers and Peter by taking a Christian wife with me on my travels?? Or are Barnabus and I the only ones who have to"work"for a living??
No matter which translation you read this is loud and clear. KJV possibly near the top of the list..
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Post by openingact34 on Nov 21, 2022 0:25:29 GMT -5
Dear old Opening Act,So you don't care about the unbiblical act of Pqedophelia in the 2x2 Irvinist doctrine. You of course would sort the (GOD"S) Holy Spirits guidence for your above entries. Have thought for all over the World celibate Ministries are infiltrated with Paedophelia. What do you think about such scripture((from Paul the Apostle the Preachers used to tell us they were a direct line of His Ministry) READ SLOWLY SEVERAL TIMES THE FOLLOWING VERSES ?? 1 Corinthians 9 v 11/12 Haven't I the right to follow the example of the other Apostles and the Lord's brothers and Peter by taking a Christian wife with me on my travels?? Or are Barnabus and I the only ones who have to"work"for a living?? No matter which translation you read this is loud and clear. KJV possibly near the top of the list.. All the non-celibate ministries seem to have the same problem with pedophilia that the non-celibate ones do. Why are all the Baptists out there molesting kids too if celibacy is the problem. Seems to me that the problem is SOMETHING ABOUT CHRISTIANITY. Jesus said: "Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven." WHY IS A GROWN MAN TRYING TO GET OTHER PEOPLE'S CHILDREN TO HANG AROUND HIM. NOT NORMAL. NOT NORMAL. During the Transfiguration, Jesus is hanging out with Moses. Kind of a Jeffrey Epstein moment. In Numbers 31, Moses says: "Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves." We all know what that means. SICK BIBLE. SICK GOD |
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Post by magpies39plus on Nov 21, 2022 0:27:49 GMT -5
Dear Opening act, Our Pastor and Teen kids lead a Street Ministry group into the dark areas of our City and one purpose is to show Jesus Love and of acceptance to the homeless kids mainly victims of paedophelia and incest. We support the young Christians coffee van where these and other homeless can have a feed. One of the better known Pastors sat down beside a teen boy "The boy offered John to share his can od drink". After a while he asked John what is God like.John said like a Father. "WOW" John copped an unexpected answer"FATHER,mine belts up mum,rapes my little sister and if tried to stop him I get belted up too". One night the crew on the coffee van said"You just missed one of your old lot" She a teen knew you,she was hiding from an incestous father,sorry but she would not give her name.
So that is our Pastor and our younger congregation,going into the Highways and byways,spreading the Love of Christ amongst the most vulnerable in our City. Opening Act that is the Pastor you want me to report.PS in the many years not once has a 2x2 volunteered to help us here,as in the refugee and war torn areas? Over 100 times the Bible speaks of caring for the poor,once when Jesus said the poor will always be with you"THAT"was because He only had a few more hours with them.Yet a 2x2 preacher said when someone gave to the Salvation Army"not our concern Jesus said"the poor will always be with you". Why opt out of showing compassion to the poor? Sorry but I did say listen to a teacher of prophetic scriptures and don;t let judge the person(which you have),they might even remove the beam!!
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Post by nathan on Nov 21, 2022 1:09:33 GMT -5
Dear old Opening Act,So you don't care about the unbiblical act of Pqedophelia in the 2x2 Irvinist doctrine. You of course would sort the (GOD"S) Holy Spirits guidence for your above entries. Have thought for all over the World celibate Ministries are infiltrated with Paedophelia. What do you think about such scripture((from Paul the Apostle the Preachers used to tell us they were a direct line of His Ministry) READ SLOWLY SEVERAL TIMES THE FOLLOWING VERSES ?? 1 Corinthians 9 v 11/12 Haven't I the right to follow the example of the other Apostles and the Lord's brothers and Peter by taking a Christian wife with me on my travels?? Or are Barnabus and I the only ones who have to"work"for a living?? No matter which translation you read this is loud and clear. KJV possibly near the top of the list.. All the non-celibate ministries seem to have the same problem with pedophilia that the non-celibate ones do. Why are all the Baptists out there molesting kids too if celibacy is the problem. Seems to me that the problem is SOMETHING ABOUT CHRISTIANITY. Jesus said: "Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven." WHY IS A GROWN MAN TRYING TO GET OTHER PEOPLE'S CHILDREN TO HANG AROUND HIM. NOT NORMAL. NOT NORMAL. During the Transfiguration, Jesus is hanging out with Moses. Kind of a Jeffrey Epstein moment. In Numbers 31, Moses says: "Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves." We all know what that means. SICK BIBLE. SICK GOD Israelite–Moabite fraternisation at Peor (Numbers 25:1–5) The Book of Numbers traces the origins of this Israelite–Midianite conflict to chapters 22 to 25.[3] The Israelites, travelling from Egypt and encamping on the eastern bank of the Jordan River across from Jericho, were on the brink of war with the Moabites (not Midianites). The Moabite king Balak hired the sorcerer Balaam to curse the Israelite soldiers from the peak of Mount Peor, but the Israelite god Yahweh forced him to instead bless the Israelites encamped at sh-tim, which he did (Numbers 22–24).[3] Next, Israelite men are said to fraternise with Moabite women by having sex with them and worshipping their gods, including Baal (Numbers 25:1–3).[3] This angered Yahweh, and he instructed Moses to massacre all Israelite men who had done this; Moses passed on these instructions to the judges of Israel (Numbers 25:3–5). In The Age of Reason (1795), Thomas Paine wrote about the chapter: "Among the detestable villains that in any period of the world would have disgraced the name of man, it is impossible to find a greater than Moses, if this account be true. Here is an order to butcher the boys, to massacre the mothers, and debauch the daughters."[36][34] Richard Watson, the Bishop of Llandaff, sought to refute Paine's arguments:[34] I see nothing in this proceeding, but good policy, combined with mercy. The young men might have become dangerous avengers of, what they would esteem, their country's wrongs; the mothers might have again allured the Israelites to the love of licentious pleasure and the practice of idolatry, and brought another plague upon the congregation; but the young maidens, not being polluted by the flagitious habits of their mothers, nor likely to create disturbance by rebellion, were kept alive.
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Post by magpies39plus on Nov 21, 2022 1:50:15 GMT -5
G;day Nathan, Have you looked at the %% of married Ministry members who have the Mentally disordered Paedophilia
as an unbiblical Celibate Ministry? Why are we getting away from my original entry??? Teacher is biblical,a Preacher only Ministry is not,is it?? Remember we all have to stand before God and say we knew or we didn't know,won't we?
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Post by nathan on Nov 21, 2022 1:58:35 GMT -5
G;day Nathan, Have you looked at the %% of married Ministry members who have the Mentally disordered Paedophilia as an unbiblical Celibate Ministry? Why are we getting away from my original entry??? Teacher is biblical, a Preacher only Ministry is not, is it?? Remember we all have to stand before God and say we knew or we didn't know, won't we?
Jesus 2x2 celibacy ministry has survived for nearly 2000 years and is still continuing in our days with the 2x2 workers. |
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Post by chuck on Nov 21, 2022 6:04:53 GMT -5
Dear old Opening Act,So you don't care about the unbiblical act of Pqedophelia in the 2x2 Irvinist doctrine. You of course would sort the (GOD"S) Holy Spirits guidence for your above entries. Have thought for all over the World celibate Ministries are infiltrated with Paedophelia. What do you think about such scripture((from Paul the Apostle the Preachers used to tell us they were a direct line of His Ministry) READ SLOWLY SEVERAL TIMES THE FOLLOWING VERSES ?? 1 Corinthians 9 v 11/12 Haven't I the right to follow the example of the other Apostles and the Lord's brothers and Peter by taking a Christian wife with me on my travels?? Or are Barnabus and I the only ones who have to"work"for a living?? No matter which translation you read this is loud and clear. KJV possibly near the top of the list.. All the non-celibate ministries seem to have the same problem with pedophilia that the non-celibate ones do. Why are all the Baptists out there molesting kids too if celibacy is the problem. Seems to me that the problem is SOMETHING ABOUT CHRISTIANITY. Jesus said: "Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven." WHY IS A GROWN MAN TRYING TO GET OTHER PEOPLE'S CHILDREN TO HANG AROUND HIM. NOT NORMAL. NOT NORMAL. During the Transfiguration, Jesus is hanging out with Moses. Kind of a Jeffrey Epstein moment. In Numbers 31, Moses says: "Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves." We all know what that means. SICK BIBLE. SICK GOD So Moses really did have a conversation with a burning bush then......... |
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Post by chuck on Nov 21, 2022 6:25:08 GMT -5
G;day Nathan, Have you looked at the %% of married Ministry members who have the Mentally disordered Paedophilia as an unbiblical Celibate Ministry? Why are we getting away from my original entry??? Teacher is biblical, a Preacher only Ministry is not, is it?? Remember we all have to stand before God and say we knew or we didn't know, won't we?
Jesus 2x2 celibacy ministry has survived for nearly 2000 years and is still continuing in our days with the 2x2 workers.William Irvine and Co did not create the perfect system. Jesus ministry was all Jewish, to try and cobble it together with western religion today is Ignorant or dishonest and even more ignorant or dishonest to try and pair it with your system and then label it perfect. |
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Post by nathan on Nov 21, 2022 9:43:58 GMT -5
All the non-celibate ministries seem to have the same problem with pedophilia that the non-celibate ones do. Why are all the Baptists out there molesting kids too if celibacy is the problem. Seems to me that the problem is SOMETHING ABOUT CHRISTIANITY. Jesus said: "Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven." WHY IS A GROWN MAN TRYING TO GET OTHER PEOPLE'S CHILDREN TO HANG AROUND HIM. NOT NORMAL. NOT NORMAL. During the Transfiguration, Jesus is hanging out with Moses. Kind of a Jeffrey Epstein moment. In Numbers 31, Moses says: "Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves." We all know what that means. SICK BIBLE. SICK GOD So Moses really did have a conversation with a burning bush then......... Exodus 3:1-17 Moses and the Burning Bush Now Moses was tending the flock of Jethro his father-in-law, the priest of Midian, and he led the flock to the far side of the wilderness and came to Horeb, the mountain of God. 2 There the angel of the Lord appeared to him in flames of fire from within a bush. Moses saw that though the bush was on fire it did not burn up. 3 So Moses thought, “I will go over and see this strange sight—why the bush does not burn up.” When the Lord saw that he had gone over to look, God called to him from within the bush, “Moses! Moses!” And Moses said, “Here I am.” “Do not come any closer,” God said. “Take off your sandals, for the place where you are standing is holy ground.” 6 Then he said, “I am the God of your father, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob.” At this, Moses hid his face, because he was afraid to look at God. The Lord said, “I have indeed seen the misery of my people in Egypt. I have heard them crying out because of their slave drivers, and I am concerned about their suffering. 8 So I have come down to rescue them from the hand of the Egyptians and to bring them up out of that land into a good and spacious land, a land flowing with milk and honey—the home of the Canaanites, Hittites, Amorites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites. 9 And now the cry of the Israelites has reached me, and I have seen the way the Egyptians are oppressing them. So now, go. I am sending you to Pharaoh to bring my people the Israelites out of Egypt.”
But Moses said to God, “Who am I that I should go to Pharaoh and bring the Israelites out of Egypt?” And God said, “I will be with you. And this will be the sign to you that it is I who have sent you: When you have brought the people out of Egypt, you will worship God on this mountain.”
Moses said to God, “Suppose I go to the Israelites and say to them, ‘The God of your fathers has sent me to you,’ and they ask me, ‘What is his name?’ Then what shall I tell them?” God said to Moses, “I am who I am. This is what you are to say to the Israelites: ‘I am has sent me to you.’” God also said to Moses, “Say to the Israelites, ‘The Lord, the God of your fathers—the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob—has sent me to you.’
“This is my name forever, the name you shall call me from generation to generation. “Go, assemble the elders of Israel and say to them, ‘The Lord, the God of your fathers—the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob—appeared to me and said: I have watched over you and have seen what has been done to you in Egypt. And I have promised to bring you up out of your misery in Egypt into the land of the Canaanites, Hittites, Amorites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites—a land flowing with milk and honey.’
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Post by nathan on Nov 21, 2022 10:15:27 GMT -5
I have gone over this with you many times in the past. Jesus 2x2 celibacy ministry is perfect because it was established by God the Father. The celibate workers who are NOT perfect because they are humans trying to function with a perfect system.
Jesus 2x2 celibacy ministry has survived for nearly 2000 years and is still continuing in our days with the 2x2 workers. William Irvine and Co did not create the perfect system. Jesus ministry was all Jewish, to try and cobble it together with western religion today is Ignorant or dishonest and even more ignorant or dishonest to try and pair it with your system and then label it perfect.
The the book of Acts we read the Holy Spirit sent out Gentiles apostles such as Timothy half Jew and half Gentile. Titus was a gentile apostle and after the 70 had died, Jesus 2x2 apostolic ministry was comprised or made up mostly Gentiles apostles for the NEXT 2000 years to the time of His returns.
Currently, the 2x2s have two twins Jewish sisters worker in Africa country and most of the 2x2 workers are gentiles in most countries today.
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Post by Annan on Nov 21, 2022 10:57:04 GMT -5
G;day Nathan, Have you looked at the %% of married Ministry members who have the Mentally disordered Paedophilia as an unbiblical Celibate Ministry? Why are we getting away from my original entry??? Teacher is biblical, a Preacher only Ministry is not, is it?? Remember we all have to stand before God and say we knew or we didn't know, won't we?
Jesus 2x2 celibacy ministry has survived for nearly 2000 years and is still continuing in our days with the 2x2 workers.So can we assume that you not being celibate disqualifies you as a worker? |
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Post by Annan on Nov 21, 2022 11:00:13 GMT -5
William Irvine and Co did not create the perfect system. Jesus ministry was all Jewish, to try and cobble it together with western religion today is Ignorant or dishonest and even more ignorant or dishonest to try and pair it with your system and then label it perfect.
The the book of Acts we read the Holy Spirit sent out Gentiles apostles such as Timothy half Jew and half Gentile. Titus was a gentile apostle and after the 70 had died, Jesus 2x2 apostolic ministry was comprised or made up mostly Gentiles apostles for the NEXT 2000 years to the time of His returns.
Currently, the 2x2s have two twins Jewish sisters worker in Africa country and most of the 2x2 workers are gentiles in most countries today.
*sigh* You totally do not comprehend Chuck’s post, Natie. The holy spit has failed you again. |
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Post by openingact34 on Nov 21, 2022 11:04:56 GMT -5
Dear Opening act, Our Pastor and Teen kids lead a Street Ministry group into the dark areas of our City and one purpose is to show Jesus Love and of acceptance to the homeless kids mainly victims of paedophelia and incest. We support the young Christians coffee van where these and other homeless can have a feed. One of the better known Pastors sat down beside a teen boy "The boy offered John to share his can od drink". After a while he asked John what is God like.John said like a Father. "WOW" John copped an unexpected answer"FATHER,mine belts up mum,rapes my little sister and if tried to stop him I get belted up too". One night the crew on the coffee van said"You just missed one of your old lot" She a teen knew you,she was hiding from an incestous father,sorry but she would not give her name. So that is our Pastor and our younger congregation,going into the Highways and byways,spreading the Love of Christ amongst the most vulnerable in our City. Opening Act that is the Pastor you want me to report.PS in the many years not once has a 2x2 volunteered to help us here,as in the refugee and war torn areas? Over 100 times the Bible speaks of caring for the poor,once when Jesus said the poor will always be with you"THAT"was because He only had a few more hours with them.Yet a 2x2 preacher said when someone gave to the Salvation Army"not our concern Jesus said"the poor will always be with you". Why opt out of showing compassion to the poor? Sorry but I did say listen to a teacher of prophetic scriptures and don;t let judge the person(which you have),they might even remove the beam!! 1 Timothy 3:2 says that a pastor must be above reproach. Titus 1:6 says that he must be blameless. Yet you keep promoting these wicked pastors who are wholely unqualified to teach a word of the Bible. Sexual predator Ravi Zacharias, Pedophile Harborer and abuse-enabler John MacArthur, money grubber David Jeremiah, the wicked nest of pedophiles and adulterers at Hillsong. Yet you just want me to ignore the qualifications of being a pastor and "don't judge". You are leading people to HELL. |
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Post by nathan2 on Nov 21, 2022 14:33:00 GMT -5
I have gone over this with you many times in the past. Jesus 2x2 celibacy ministry is perfect because it was established by God the Father. The celibate workers who are NOT perfect because they are humans trying to function with a perfect system.
Jesus 2x2 celibacy ministry has survived for nearly 2000 years and is still continuing in our days with the 2x2 workers. So can we assume that you not being celibate disqualifies you as a worker? *** You know so little about the Bible for someone born and raised in the 2x2. Philip was a disciple/deacon NOT an apostle but God and Christ gave the power to heal, perform miracle, baptizing his converts. Aquilla and Priscilla were church elders NOT apostles but they preached and taught in the synagogues and Apollo, was one of their converts. He became an apostle and Co-worker with Paul. All followers of Jesus and the apostles are God's workers in teaching and preaching the gospel to all nations the Great Commission Matthew 28. The apostles have a role to fill within the Churches and to the world so, does the followers of Jesus. In Acts 5 we read the Church= God's followers went everywhere preaching. Read Ephesians 4:11-15. A person doesn't have to be a celibate apostle/worker to teach and preach the gospel that responsibility is to fall on both the apostles and followers of Jesus. |
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Post by Annan on Nov 21, 2022 14:57:06 GMT -5
So can we assume that you not being celibate disqualifies you as a worker? *** You know so little about the Bible for someone born and raised in the 2x2. Philip was a disciple/deacon NOT an apostle but God and Christ gave the power to heal, perform miracle, baptizing his converts. Aquilla and Priscilla were church elders NOT apostles but they preached and taught in the synagogues and Apollo, was one of their converts. He became an apostle and Co-worker with Paul. All followers of Jesus and the apostles are God's workers in teaching and preaching the gospel to all nations the Great Commission Matthew 28. The apostles have a role to fill within the Churches and to the world so, does the followers of Jesus. In Acts 5 we read the Church= God's followers went everywhere preaching. Read Ephesians 4:11-15. A person doesn't have to be a celibate apostle/worker to teach and preach the gospel that responsibility is to fall on both the apostles and followers of Jesus.Well that was a bunch of babble. That's not what the workers teach, Natie. Why do you keep defying the words of the workers? Did the holy spit lie to them? You have a habit of cherry picking which rules you choose to obey. You refuse to obey Jesus's words when he says to dust off your feet where you are not wanted and move on. Why is that, Natie? Do you know better than Jesus? Jesus said to turn the other cheek, yet you fight like a rabid dog with those who disagree with your warped versus of the gospels. You fail to obey the workers. Is that why they forced you out? You are a pretend worker that preaches doctrine contrary to what the 2x2's teach. You are not a 2x2, but a pretender. Please stop lying about the church I was raised in. |
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Post by chuck on Nov 21, 2022 15:05:44 GMT -5
William Irvine and Co did not create the perfect system. Jesus ministry was all Jewish, to try and cobble it together with western religion today is Ignorant or dishonest and even more ignorant or dishonest to try and pair it with your system and then label it perfect.
The the book of Acts we read the Holy Spirit sent out Gentiles apostles such as Timothy half Jew and half Gentile. Titus was a gentile apostle and after the 70 had died, Jesus 2x2 apostolic ministry was comprised or made up mostly Gentiles apostles for the NEXT 2000 years to the time of His returns.
Currently, the 2x2s have two twins Jewish sisters worker in Africa country and most of the 2x2 workers are gentiles in most countries today.
Jesus was dead by the time Titus come along so the claim Jesus ministry was mostly made up of gentiles for the next 2000 years is factually not true. I think you need to understand the difference between Jesus and Christ, they are not the same thing, one is a man with a inbuilt drive for self, the other is a Character with self put last. This is what I tried to explain the other day when you quoted the verses that Jesus said I must go so the comforter can come. For the Christ character to come into ones life you must put your selfish one away. "The 2x2s have twin Jewish sister's" I really don't think you grasp the topic at hand to make this type of comment. |
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Post by chuck on Nov 21, 2022 15:13:01 GMT -5
So Moses really did have a conversation with a burning bush then......... Exodus 3:1-17 Moses and the Burning Bush Now Moses was tending the flock of Jethro his father-in-law, the priest of Midian, and he led the flock to the far side of the wilderness and came to Horeb, the mountain of God. 2 There the angel of the Lord appeared to him in flames of fire from within a bush. Moses saw that though the bush was on fire it did not burn up. 3 So Moses thought, “I will go over and see this strange sight—why the bush does not burn up.” When the Lord saw that he had gone over to look, God called to him from within the bush, “Moses! Moses!” And Moses said, “Here I am.” “Do not come any closer,” God said. “Take off your sandals, for the place where you are standing is holy ground.” 6 Then he said, “I am the God of your father, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob.” At this, Moses hid his face, because he was afraid to look at God. The Lord said, “I have indeed seen the misery of my people in Egypt. I have heard them crying out because of their slave drivers, and I am concerned about their suffering. 8 So I have come down to rescue them from the hand of the Egyptians and to bring them up out of that land into a good and spacious land, a land flowing with milk and honey—the home of the Canaanites, Hittites, Amorites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites. 9 And now the cry of the Israelites has reached me, and I have seen the way the Egyptians are oppressing them. So now, go. I am sending you to Pharaoh to bring my people the Israelites out of Egypt.”
But Moses said to God, “Who am I that I should go to Pharaoh and bring the Israelites out of Egypt?” And God said, “I will be with you. And this will be the sign to you that it is I who have sent you: When you have brought the people out of Egypt, you will worship God on this mountain.”
Moses said to God, “Suppose I go to the Israelites and say to them, ‘The God of your fathers has sent me to you,’ and they ask me, ‘What is his name?’ Then what shall I tell them?” God said to Moses, “I am who I am. This is what you are to say to the Israelites: ‘I am has sent me to you.’” God also said to Moses, “Say to the Israelites, ‘The Lord, the God of your fathers—the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob—has sent me to you.’
“This is my name forever, the name you shall call me from generation to generation. “Go, assemble the elders of Israel and say to them, ‘The Lord, the God of your fathers—the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob—appeared to me and said: I have watched over you and have seen what has been done to you in Egypt. And I have promised to bring you up out of your misery in Egypt into the land of the Canaanites, Hittites, Amorites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites—a land flowing with milk and honey.’
Do you understand why the bush was burning Nathan?. Do you understand what God was to Moses at this time?. The hint is in the fire...... It's all symbolic by the way..... |
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Post by chuck on Nov 21, 2022 15:21:33 GMT -5
*** You know so little about the Bible for someone born and raised in the 2x2. Philip was a disciple/deacon NOT an apostle but God and Christ gave the power to heal, perform miracle, baptizing his converts. Aquilla and Priscilla were church elders NOT apostles but they preached and taught in the synagogues and Apollo, was one of their converts. He became an apostle and Co-worker with Paul. All followers of Jesus and the apostles are God's workers in teaching and preaching the gospel to all nations the Great Commission Matthew 28. The apostles have a role to fill within the Churches and to the world so, does the followers of Jesus. In Acts 5 we read the Church= God's followers went everywhere preaching. Read Ephesians 4:11-15. A person doesn't have to be a celibate apostle/worker to teach and preach the gospel that responsibility is to fall on both the apostles and followers of Jesus.Well that was a bunch of babble. That's not what the workers teach, Natie. Why do you keep defying the words of the workers? Did the holy spit lie to them? You have a habit of cherry picking which rules you choose to obey. You refuse to obey Jesus's words when he says to dust off your feet where you are not wanted and move on. Why is that, Natie? Do you know better than Jesus? Jesus said to turn the other cheek, yet you fight like a rabid dog with those who disagree with your warped versus of the gospels. You fail to obey the workers. Is that why they forced you out? You are a pretend worker that preaches doctrine contrary to what the 2x2's teach. You are not a 2x2, but a pretender. Please stop lying about the church I was raised in. I often wonder where Nathan & wally bunk each night...they are companions right?, on the road to Portland maybe?. |
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Post by nathan2 on Nov 21, 2022 16:20:36 GMT -5
You need to study and know your Bible, Chuck. Jesus began His 2x2 apostolic ministry with the 12 and 70 apostles of Jewish followers in Matthew 10 and Luke 10 but in Matthew 28 He commanded them to go to ALL nations including all of the Gentiles nations.
The the book of Acts we read the Holy Spirit sent out Gentiles apostles such as Timothy half Jew and half Gentile. Titus was a gentile apostle and after the 70 had died, Jesus 2x2 apostolic ministry was comprised or made up mostly Gentiles apostles for the NEXT 2000 years to the time of His returns.
Currently, the 2x2s have two twins Jewish sisters worker in Africa country and most of the 2x2 workers are gentiles in most countries today.
Jesus was dead by the time Titus come along so the claim Jesus ministry was mostly made up of gentiles for the next 2000 years is factually not true. I think you need to understand the difference between Jesus and Christ, they are not the same thing, one is a man with a inbuilt drive for self, the other is a Character with self put last. This is what I tried to explain the other day when you quoted the verses that Jesus said I must go so the comforter can come. For the Christ character to come into ones life you must put your selfish one away. "The 2x2s have twin Jewish sister's" I really don't think you grasp the topic at hand to make this type of comment. ** It went way over your Hebraic mind set head for sure. You need to study your Bible with a mind of Christ and with the help of the Holy Spirit, Chuckie. |
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Post by BobWilliston on Nov 21, 2022 16:20:38 GMT -5
All the non-celibate ministries seem to have the same problem with pedophilia that the non-celibate ones do. Why are all the Baptists out there molesting kids too if celibacy is the problem. Seems to me that the problem is SOMETHING ABOUT CHRISTIANITY. Jesus said: "Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven." WHY IS A GROWN MAN TRYING TO GET OTHER PEOPLE'S CHILDREN TO HANG AROUND HIM. NOT NORMAL. NOT NORMAL. During the Transfiguration, Jesus is hanging out with Moses. Kind of a Jeffrey Epstein moment. In Numbers 31, Moses says: "Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves." We all know what that means. SICK BIBLE. SICK GOD So Moses really did have a conversation with a burning bush then......... I'm special too. I had a close encounter with a zombie in the hospital. He blinked and redirected his stare directly at me. I felt touched. |
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