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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2022 19:03:31 GMT -5
Gun violence is a contemporary Global Human rights issue. Gun-related violence threatens our most fundamental Human right, THE RIGHT TO LIFE. Gun violence is a daily tragedy affecting the lives of individuals around the World. More than 500 people die every day because of violence committed with firearms. I am so glad that I live in Australia where we are relative free from this evil. Praise goes to our previous Prime Minister, John Howard who had his Government enact strict Gun control laws. Of course it was opposed by idiots, at risk to his own life. However he was determined and pressed on and sensible laws were the end result. Guns like an AR-15 totally banded, a Civilian cannot own one. Makes sense it was designed for one purpose to kill Humans, not for hunting Rabbits. Wake up America, keep your pop Guns if you must, but get rid of the ones that kill 21 lives in a moment. Sadly most of those lives were Children. Tragic. *banned 182,000+ people(500 per day) is about .000023 of the population of the Earth. In the USA there are 80+ million firearm owners and roughly 400+ million firearms and anywhere from 30k-40k dead. Vegas has better odds of winning than a person getting shot here in the USA or around the world.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2022 19:08:37 GMT -5
The result is the same Ukrainians killing Russians and Civilians killing those criminals that initiate violence. A war is taking place in Ukraine unlike the USA where if someone looks dangerous shoot them. Ukraine is on superalert. The enemy is there to shoot and kill. We should not have to live like that in a civilized country... viewing everyone as the enemy. America is not at war. How would they cope in a country where you're not allowed to carry guns? Armed men are citizen's, unarmed men are subjects. -John Adams
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Post by help on Jun 24, 2022 19:14:47 GMT -5
It is unfortunate that some folks "Can't see the Woods for the Trees" Often controlled by prejudice which is an impediment to understanding the real situation.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2022 19:16:58 GMT -5
It is unfortunate that some folks "Can't see the Woods for the Trees" Often controlled by prejudice which is an impediment to understanding the real situation. In your case its more of the blind leading the blind and both falling into the ditch on this issue. Redback
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Post by help on Jun 24, 2022 19:35:05 GMT -5
Prejudices are useful, because they help you keep things simple. But they can also influence the way we behave towards certain people, and that can be dangerous.
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Post by mrdobalina on Jun 24, 2022 19:51:27 GMT -5
Nothing has changed with Christianity then, only the method they mete out death to those that conflict with their views. I don't know how it works in your country but most Christians here in the USA don't just shoot people for conflicting views. You might want to speak to a US lefties here though they are getting ready to do just that.... Maybe do a bit of research on Northern Ireland.
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Post by mrdobalina on Jun 24, 2022 19:54:22 GMT -5
A war is taking place in Ukraine unlike the USA where if someone looks dangerous shoot them. Ukraine is on superalert. The enemy is there to shoot and kill. We should not have to live like that in a civilized country... viewing everyone as the enemy. America is not at war. How would they cope in a country where you're not allowed to carry guns? Armed men are citizen's, unarmed men are subjects. -John Adams We can all dig up the ravings of some fringe lunatic to support our angle.
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Post by Grant on Jun 24, 2022 20:14:49 GMT -5
Gun violence is a contemporary Global Human rights issue. Gun-related violence threatens our most fundamental Human right, THE RIGHT TO LIFE. Gun violence is a daily tragedy affecting the lives of individuals around the World. More than 500 people die every day because of violence committed with firearms. I am so glad that I live in Australia where we are relative free from this evil. Praise goes to our previous Prime Minister, John Howard who had his Government enact strict Gun control laws. Of course it was opposed by idiots, at risk to his own life. However he was determined and pressed on and sensible laws were the end result. Guns like an AR-15 totally banded, a Civilian cannot own one. Makes sense it was designed for one purpose to kill Humans, not for hunting Rabbits. Wake up America, keep your pop Guns if you must, but get rid of the ones that kill 21 lives in a moment. Sadly most of those lives were Children. Tragic. *banned 182,000+ people(500 per day) is about .000023 of the population of the Earth. In the USA there are 80+ million firearm owners and roughly 400+ million firearms and anywhere from 30k-40k dead. Vegas has better odds of winning than a person getting shot here in the USA or around the world. So why carry a gun and act like everyone is a threat if the odds are so low?
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Post by xna on Jun 24, 2022 20:33:53 GMT -5
Today there are about 21M concealed carry permits issued in the USA. I wonder how much that number will increase due to the supreme courts ruling?
I would guess only about 1/4 or less with a carry permit, carry a gun on a regular basis. Law enforcement and security officers would add about another 1M.
While the USA has more guns per capita and more armed people per capita than any country, my back of the envelope calculations says less than 2% of the total USA population has a gun on them.
Carrying a gun is more the exception than the rule now in the USA. I get the sense that people outside of the USA think carrying a gun is more common.
Most gun deaths in the USA are suicides, not homicides.
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Post by rudyw on Jun 24, 2022 20:35:08 GMT -5
The result is the same Ukrainians killing Russians and Civilians killing those criminals that initiate violence. A war is taking place in Ukraine unlike the USA where if someone looks dangerous shoot them. Ukraine is on superalert. The enemy is there to shoot and kill. We should not have to live like that in a civilized country... viewing everyone as the enemy. America is not at war. How would they cope in a country where you're not allowed to carry guns? I don’t know if anyone who ‘views everyone as the enemy.’ Speaking of Ukraine, you said, “The enemy is there to shoot and kill.” I agree. And in most self-defense situations ‘the enemy is there to shoot and kill’ also, if necessary. There’s no difference between the two situations. I find it baffling that something so elementary is so difficult for someone to understand. Unless they truly do understand, but want US civilians unarmed for some reason, so that only the bad guys are armed, which is what would happen. Honestly, this whole debate is useless, because no one is going to take away the guns of US citizens. Not gonna happen.
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Post by help on Jun 24, 2022 20:51:22 GMT -5
Hard to understand why any Christian would carry a Gun to protect themselves. IMO it is in conflict with their faith and beliefs. After all the foundation of the Christian Religion is Christ. According to those beliefs Christ gave his life for others without trying to defend himself. And if someone loses their life because the other party is not in the right mind, not observing the sanctity of life, it is tragic but in accordance with Christ's attitude.
The other thing that baffles me is their belief is that after death they go to a better place, so why the fear of loosing their life because of the stupidity of someone else. Because of their faith it should not cause any concern. No different to being run over by a Bus.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2022 20:51:57 GMT -5
*banned 182,000+ people(500 per day) is about .000023 of the population of the Earth. In the USA there are 80+ million firearm owners and roughly 400+ million firearms and anywhere from 30k-40k dead. Vegas has better odds of winning than a person getting shot here in the USA or around the world. So why carry a gun and act like everyone is a threat if the odds are so low? Better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it. -Unknown
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2022 21:06:11 GMT -5
Hard to understand why any Christian would carry a Gun to protect themselves. IMO it is in conflict with their faith and beliefs. After all the foundation of the Christian Religion is Christ. According to those beliefs Christ gave his life for others without trying to defend himself. And if someone loses their life because the other party is not in the right mind, not observing the sanctity of life, it is tragic but in accordance with Christ's attitude. The other thing that baffles me is their belief is that after death they go to a better place, so why the fear of loosing their life because of the stupidity of someone else. Because of their faith it should not cause any concern. No different to being run over by a Bus. Christ had to die to save our souls that is why he wanted no resistance on that particular day. We are not to spread the gospel with "swords"... You have little to no survival instinct, everyone wants to eek out as much time here as they can get, to get right with God. We can ask non-believers the same thing. what is the fuss? In a hundred years or so no one will remember you. You are just a great ape relative bound for a dirt nap. Eat and drink for tomorrow we die.
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Post by help on Jun 24, 2022 21:28:52 GMT -5
If Christ were on Earth today, I am sure the message would be, we are not to spread the Gospel with Swords or Guns. Guns were not invented 2000 years ago certainly not the AR-15. Sometimes smart Human inventions are used for the wrong purpose.
Surely if you follow Christ, you would not want to spread the Gospel with a Gun. You spread the Gospel with your life, not with words.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2022 21:37:33 GMT -5
If Christ were on Earth today, I am sure the message would be, we are not to spread the Gospel with Swords or Guns. Guns were not invented 2000 years ago certainly not the AR-15. Sometimes smart Human inventions are used for the wrong purpose. Surely if you follow Christ, you would not want to spread the Gospel with a Gun. I believe I just said that.
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Post by help on Jun 24, 2022 21:56:55 GMT -5
Gospel means good news, and that news can be spread by word or deed. We need to have the influence of Christian Humanism in our lives, as practised by Christ when here on Earth.
Christian Humanism regards humanist principles like universal Human dignity, sanctity of life, individual freedom, and the importance of happiness as essential and principal or even exclusive components of the teachings of Christ.
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Post by openingact34 on Jun 24, 2022 21:58:50 GMT -5
Gun violence is a contemporary Global Human rights issue. Gun-related violence threatens our most fundamental Human right, THE RIGHT TO LIFE. Gun violence is a daily tragedy affecting the lives of individuals around the World. More than 500 people die every day because of violence committed with firearms. I am so glad that I live in Australia where we are relative free from this evil. Praise goes to our previous Prime Minister, John Howard who had his Government enact strict Gun control laws. Of course it was opposed by idiots, at risk to his own life. However he was determined and pressed on and sensible laws were the end result. Guns like an AR-15 totally banded, a Civilian cannot own one. Makes sense it was designed for one purpose to kill Humans, not for hunting Rabbits. Wake up America, keep your pop Guns if you must, but get rid of the ones that kill 21 lives in a moment. Sadly most of those lives were Children. Tragic. *banned 182,000+ people(500 per day) is about .000023 of the population of the Earth. In the USA there are 80+ million firearm owners and roughly 400+ million firearms and anywhere from 30k-40k dead. Vegas has better odds of winning than a person getting shot here in the USA or around the world. If you go back in history, Australia is where they sent criminals. America is where they sent religious people. The same spirit has persisted to this day. It has probably been necessary to ban guns in Australia because they are such a wicked and ungodly place full of criminally-minded people. Here in the USA, the majority of people are peaceful and god-fearing.
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Post by help on Jun 24, 2022 22:12:19 GMT -5
Uncanny how "The Worm Turns"
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Post by BobWilliston on Jun 24, 2022 22:50:46 GMT -5
I did not say they were bachelor degrees...Not even a nice try at a narrative In Canada I believe the lowest degree is a bachelor degree. Lesser are certificates or diplomas. Is this different in the united states? Yes -- quite different. The US has all kinds of alternate post-high school institutions that don't offer accredited university degrees. Some are very reputable training schools, and others aren't worth the paper their diplomas a printed on.
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Post by Grant on Jun 24, 2022 22:50:48 GMT -5
So why are you reluctant to name what your qualification is? I vaguely remember you saying in the past something like a Diploma in admin. I'm likely wrong so correct me. You also wrote Wally, that you have an idjitcation just like me,....unsure what you mean here as I do not have any idjitcation but then you've often made guesses about me and othes which are wrong and we've just learned to ignore them. I get tired of repeating myself. Most of you have no memory capacity tp speak of... Idjitcation, a slang word made up by Wally to mean nothing. Mine is genuine, wallys words are that he has nothing.
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Post by BobWilliston on Jun 24, 2022 22:56:03 GMT -5
So why are you reluctant to name what your qualification is? I vaguely remember you saying in the past something like a Diploma in admin. I'm likely wrong so correct me. You also wrote Wally, that you have an idjitcation just like me,....unsure what you mean here as I do not have any idjitcation but then you've often made guesses about me and others which are wrong and we've just learned to ignore them. Idjitcation, a slang word made up by Wally to mean nothing. Mine is genuine, wallys words are that he has nothing. Anyone who claims to have an idjitcation can be assumed to be telling the truth.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2022 23:25:16 GMT -5
*banned 182,000+ people(500 per day) is about .000023 of the population of the Earth. In the USA there are 80+ million firearm owners and roughly 400+ million firearms and anywhere from 30k-40k dead. Vegas has better odds of winning than a person getting shot here in the USA or around the world. If you go back in history, Australia is where they sent criminals. America is where they sent religious people. The same spirit has persisted to this day. It has probably been necessary to ban guns in Australia because they are such a wicked and ungodly place full of criminally-minded people. Here in the USA, the majority of people are peaceful and god-fearing. LOL
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2022 23:26:49 GMT -5
I get tired of repeating myself. Most of you have no memory capacity tp speak of... Idjitcation, a slang word made up by Wally to mean nothing. Mine is genuine, wallys words are that he has nothing. Nope relayed to me by the Old Navy CC/DI...
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Post by help on Jun 24, 2022 23:32:38 GMT -5
I find there are enough words in the English language for my needs. Being uneducated I have enough bother just using them, without inventing new ones. But I suppose if you are a learned person, then the desire would be there.
Idjitcation won't come up when I Google it. Google must be uneducated like myself.
When I was a 2x2 going to University was frowned upon and didn't happen. I know the rules have changed now and common sense has prevailed and University is OK, good thing. I would not have made it anyway 38 out of 100 in my final year. Was reminded by the Headmaster that I would not get University entrance with a low mark like that. But I still hope to make it there when I die. I have received a letter from the UNE Body Program, listing things that rule you out. They have the right to reject you and return to the Family to be dealt with, at your expense. Keeping my fingers crossed that I don't fail twice to make it into University.
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Post by guest8 on Jun 25, 2022 0:25:32 GMT -5
I find there are enough words in the English language for my needs. Being uneducated I have enough bother just using them, without inventing new ones. But I suppose if you are a learned person, then the desire would be there. Idjitcation won't come up when I Google it. Google must be uneducated like myself. I'm sure Help, you are intelligent enough to use many words, that are actually in an English dictionary and don't bother arguing with made-up words from what you thought you heard someone say years yonder.
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Post by Grant on Jun 25, 2022 0:35:45 GMT -5
Idjitcation, a slang word made up by Wally to mean nothing. Mine is genuine, wallys words are that he has nothing. Nope relayed to me by the Old Navy CC/DI... Nope idjitcation is a slang word in the US that means something like idiot education...good try though Idjitcation. Wally's post in the quote tells us he believes it to be a slang word, (although it doesn't appear anywhere on the internet except Wally's post) which in his thinking means something like idiot education.
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Post by guest8 on Jun 25, 2022 0:46:36 GMT -5
Nope relayed to me by the Old Navy CC/DI... Nope idjitcation is a slang word in the US that means something like idiot education...good try though Idjitcation. Wally's post in the quote tells us he believes it to be a slang word, (although it doesn't appear anywhere on the internet except Wally's post) which in his thinking means something like idiot education. Jun 19, 2022 at 2:40pm xna said: People use this slang word: edgimication - an idiot: im going to college to get an edgimication. www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=edgimication
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Jun 25, 2022 0:49:47 GMT -5
Idjitcation. Wally's post in the quote tells us he believes it to be a slang word, (although it doesn't appear anywhere on the internet except Wally's post) which in his thinking means something like idiot education. Jun 19, 2022 at 2:40pm xna said: People use this slang word: edgimication - an idiot: im going to college to get an edgimication. www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=edgimicationWhen I read about the Wally telling us of his navy days he reminds me of the Village People song. www.youtube.com/watch?v=InBXu-iY7cw
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