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Post by Grant on Nov 20, 2021 1:00:00 GMT -5
I added more to my post above:
Or as another worker said, my hope and salvation is in the Blood of Christ but I would like to explain to you what that means. The blood of Christ is the ministry and the church in the home. Without the New Testament ministry you don't have the blood of Christ which includes the church on the home. The forgiveness of sin is a fringe benefit. Leo Sancliff, 1981.
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Post by nathan on Nov 20, 2021 1:06:53 GMT -5
I added more to my post above: Or as another worker said, my hope and salvation is in the Blood of Christ but I would like to explain to you what that means. The blood of Christ is the ministry and the church in the home. Without the New Testament ministry you don't have the blood of Christ which includes the church on the home. The forgiveness of sin is a fringe benefit. Leo Standford 1981.
I need to read Leo Stancliff whole sermon to make any sense out of what you posted... People take this part and that part, and take things out of context. We must read the whole sermon to really understand what he was talking about.
Do you have Leo Stancliff whole sermon, enuf? |
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Post by Grant on Nov 20, 2021 1:18:41 GMT -5
I added more to my post above: Or as another worker said, my hope and salvation is in the Blood of Christ but I would like to explain to you what that means. The blood of Christ is the ministry and the church in the home. Without the New Testament ministry you don't have the blood of Christ which includes the church on the home. The forgiveness of sin is a fringe benefit. Leo Standford 1981.
I need to read Leo Stancliff whole sermon to make any sense out of what you posted... People take this part and that part, and take things out of context. We must read the whole sermon to really understand what he was talking about.
Do you have Leo Stancliff whole sermon, enuf?Leo Sancliff, 1981, cited in Forward Press vol 6 No 3, p3. Forward Press if I remember correctly was the first ex 2x2 material sent around the world in the early 1990s before the internet listsetv ex 2x2 email group started. No I don't have the whole sermon, what he said speaks for itself. |
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Post by BobWilliston on Nov 20, 2021 1:25:02 GMT -5
That is Leo Stancliff... NOT Leo Standford. I professed through him on the island of Guam in 1978.
I need to read Leo Stancliff whole sermon to make any sense out of what you posted... People take this part and that part, and take things out of context. We must read the whole sermon to really understand what he was talking about.
Do you have Leo Stancliff whole sermon, enuf? Leo Sancluff, 1981, cited in Forward Press vol 6 No 3, p3. Forward Press if I remember correctly was the first ex 2x2 material sent around the world in the early 1990s before the internet listsetv ex 2x2 email group started. No I don't have the whole sermon, what he said speaks for itself. Leo's mantra. I've heard him say that many times. |
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Post by nathan on Nov 20, 2021 1:29:54 GMT -5
That is Leo Stancliff... NOT Leo Standford. I professed through him on the island of Guam in 1978.
I need to read Leo Stancliff whole sermon to make any sense out of what you posted... People take this part and that part, and take things out of context. We must read the whole sermon to really understand what he was talking about.
Do you have Leo Stancliff whole sermon, enuf? Leo Sancluff, 1981, cited in Forward Press vol 6 No 3, p3. Forward Press if I remember correctly was the first ex 2x2 material sent around the world in the early 1990s before the internet listsetv ex 2x2 email group started. No I don't have the whole sermon, what he said speaks for itself.
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Post by nathan on Nov 20, 2021 1:34:12 GMT -5
Leo Sancluff, 1981, cited in Forward Press vol 6 No 3, p3. Forward Press if I remember correctly was the first ex 2x2 material sent around the world in the early 1990s before the internet listsetv ex 2x2 email group started. No I don't have the whole sermon, what he said speaks for itself. Leo's mantra. I've heard him say that many times.
That was WHY? I asked to read the whole sermon of Leo Stancliff. |
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Post by Grant on Nov 20, 2021 1:46:49 GMT -5
Leo's mantra. I've heard him say that many times.
That was WHY? I asked to read the whole sermon of Leo Stancliff.The name I have is Leo Sancliff but it could be Stancliff. As Bob said, it's Leo's mantra and he has heard him say it many times. |
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Post by nathan on Nov 20, 2021 1:53:09 GMT -5
Yes, I have heard it many times too but NOT like those this and that no sense! I sat under Leo Stancliff Bible Studies for almost 2 years... 10 hours of Bible studies on University of Guam campus lawn, Wed. night bible Studies, Sunday morning meetings a week.
That was WHY? I asked to read the whole sermon of Leo Stancliff. The name I have is Leo Sancliff but it could be Stancliff. As Bob said, it's Leo's mantra and he has heard him say it many times. |
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Post by mountain on Nov 20, 2021 3:41:42 GMT -5
You seem to be asking a mixed up combination of at least 4 different questions. 1) Am I sick of hearing about Frank Stranges?
Yes
AGREED2) Should posting Frank Stranges material be allowed?
Yes, I support free speech, not censorship
AGREED. However this subject should be limited to threads dedicated to the subject. That way readers can choose whether or not to be entertained by the subject, rather than it impeding a wide variety of threads.
3) Should endless copy/paste be allowed?
No, not if it is an obstruction tactic that impedes the free speech and discussion of others
AGREED ABSOLUTELY. There is nothing more off putting than having to scroll down past screeds of boring data dumps to get to the bits you want to read. It is like unravelling lots of toilet paper but unfortunately you can't use it as such.
4) Does Frank Stranges material add value to TMB?
Yes, I believe it does. Nathan's faith in Valient Thor and his Venusian Spaceship are a near-perfect analog to something like the faith of religious people in Noah and his Ark. I think it can help people under the delusions to religion to understand that logical grown-ups perceive you the exact same way that you view Nathan. The entertainment value should not be overlooked, but this can only be appreciated if it is restricted to dedicated threads.
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Post by nathan02 on Nov 20, 2021 13:13:01 GMT -5
You seem to be asking a mixed up combination of at least 4 different questions. 1) Am I sick of hearing about Frank Stranges?
Yes
AGREED2) Should posting Frank Stranges material be allowed?
Yes, I support free speech, not censorship
AGREED. However this subject should be limited to threads dedicated to the subject. That way readers can choose whether or not to be entertained by the subject, rather than it impeding a wide variety of threads.
3) Should endless copy/paste be allowed?
No, not if it is an obstruction tactic that impedes the free speech and discussion of others
AGREED ABSOLUTELY. There is nothing more off putting than having to scroll down past screeds of boring data dumps to get to the bits you want to read. It is like unravelling lots of toilet paper but unfortunately you can't use it as such.
4) Does Frank Stranges material add value to TMB?
Yes, I believe it does. Nathan's faith in Valient Thor and his Venusian Spaceship are a near-perfect analog to something like the faith of religious people in Noah and his Ark. I think it can help people under the delusions to religion to understand that logical grown-ups perceive you the exact same way that you view Nathan. The entertainment value should not be overlooked, but this can only be appreciated if it is restricted to dedicated threads.
*** You are a joker, a prankster and entertainer on here for years! You posted all kinds of B.S. like Dorothy William letter and many were so upset that you played with their emotion, inner feelings and fragile minds! Your funny 2 Trinity polls what a joke! People told you stop doing that but you don't care, and you keep on playing your mind games of entertainment. The things which I post are NOT science fiction but FACTS! |
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Post by Annan on Nov 20, 2021 13:31:53 GMT -5
The things which I post are NOT science fiction but FACTS! Yet you can prove none of what you post. |
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Post by fixit on Nov 20, 2021 13:46:58 GMT -5
The things which I post are NOT science fiction but FACTS! We've been through this before Nate... We established that opinion and facts mean the same in Nathan-English. |
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Post by nathan02 on Nov 20, 2021 14:56:00 GMT -5
The things which I post are NOT science fiction but FACTS! Yet you can prove none of what you post. ** You/Witches, doubting Thomas, unbelievers and atheists WILL NOT believe it when the Truth stares you RIGHT in the Face. |
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Post by Annan on Nov 20, 2021 15:09:18 GMT -5
Yet you can prove none of what you post. ** You/Witches, doubting Thomas, unbelievers and atheists WILL NOT believe it when the Truth stares you RIGHT in the Face. We say the same of you, Natie. 💋 |
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Post by nathan02 on Nov 20, 2021 15:16:04 GMT -5
** You/Witches, doubting Thomas, unbelievers and atheists WILL NOT believe it when the Truth stares you RIGHT in the Face. We say the same of you, Natie. 💋 haha, you doom to hell for sure with those red lips stick! |
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Post by mountain on Nov 20, 2021 15:49:07 GMT -5
*** You are a joker, a prankster and entertainer on here for years! You posted all kinds of B.S. like Dorothy William letter and many were so upset that you played with their emotion, inner feelings and fragile minds! Your funny 2 Trinity polls what a joke! People told you stop doing that but you don't care, and you keep on playing your mind games of entertainment. The things which I post are NOT science fiction but FACTS! Nathan, if you study my responses properly, you will see that I am supporting your right to present your beliefs, but in a way which does not sicken other people. I fail to see how you can have reasonable grounds to object to that, unless your intention is to annoy or disturb everyone else. I have made no judgement on the factual standards of your presentations in the above responses. That is up to the individual to decide for themselves, a principle you seem keen to promote at every opportunity. You claim my two trinity related polls were a joke. Does this apply to the Nathan is Right poll which was heavily designed to show you in good light, as well as the Nathan is right thread (not the poll). Both of these presented you as exemplary in all things. Were these a joke, or did they present the truth? I personally have not discredited the matters you claim to be factual, or made out they are science fiction. I have challenged you on goodness knows how many occasions over trinitarian matters, but I think I have a right to do that. FWIW I have not lost sight of the fact that it was you, YES YOU NATHAN, who made me aware that the Germans had tanks and stuff when they invaded Russia during Operation Barbarossa in June 1941. I proved you correct when I saw films about the war. Also, you stated that during World War II the Germans had secret bases in Occupied Europe. Again this have been proved to be the case. You have created many enemies on TMB. Please don't try and add me to the list. I can assure you that hormonally I find posters such as Roselyn T, Dmichgood, Cherie, Verna, etc., far more enticing than yourself, so be careful. Very careful! |
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Post by nathan02 on Nov 20, 2021 16:02:54 GMT -5
*** You are a joker, a prankster and entertainer on here for years! You posted all kinds of B.S. like Dorothy William letter and many were so upset that you played with their emotion, inner feelings and fragile minds! Your funny 2 Trinity polls what a joke! People told you stop doing that but you don't care, and you keep on playing your mind games of entertainment. The things which I post are NOT science fiction but FACTS! Nathan, if you study my responses properly, you will see that I am supporting your right to present your beliefs, but in a way which does not sicken other people. I fail to see how you can have reasonable grounds to object to that, unless your intention is to annoy or disturb everyone else. I have made no judgement on the factual standards of your presentations in the above responses. That is up to the individual to decide for themselves, a principle you seem keen to promote at every opportunity. You claim my two trinity related polls were a joke. Does this apply to the Nathan is Right poll which was heavily designed to show you in good light, as well as the Nathan is right thread (not the poll). Both of these presented you as exemplary in all things. Were these a joke, or did they present the truth? I personally have not discredited the matters you claim to be factual, or made out they are science fiction. I have challenged you on goodness knows how many occasions over trinitarian matters, but I think I have a right to do that. FWIW I have not lost sight of the fact that it was you, YES YOU NATHAN, who made me aware that the Germans had tanks and stuff when they invaded Russia during Operation Barbarossa in June 1941. I proved you correct when I saw films about the war. Also, you stated that during World War II the Germans had secret bases in Occupied Europe. Again this have been proved to be the case. You have created many enemies on TMB. Please don't try and add me to the list. I can assure you that hormonally I find posters such as Roselyn T, Dmichgood, Cherie, Verna, etc., far more enticing than yourself, so be careful. Very careful! *** You are an prankster and entertainer, Ram... Hardly, anyone take your post seriously anymore even you are telling the truth, you always have your barb wired woven in your posts. You are NOT my friend, Ram for years and you KNOW it. We have been butt heads for quite some times with your anti-Trinity stance and many other topics. You pretend to be my friend and you get your sharp knife and stab me in the back and said oops! Sorry, the devil made me to do it. |
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Post by mountain on Nov 20, 2021 16:06:57 GMT -5
Nathan, if you study my responses properly, you will see that I am supporting your right to present your beliefs, but in a way which does not sicken other people. I fail to see how you can have reasonable grounds to object to that, unless your intention is to annoy or disturb everyone else. I have made no judgement on the factual standards of your presentations in the above responses. That is up to the individual to decide for themselves, a principle you seem keen to promote at every opportunity. You claim my two trinity related polls were a joke. Does this apply to the Nathan is Right poll which was heavily designed to show you in good light, as well as the Nathan is right thread (not the poll). Both of these presented you as exemplary in all things. Were these a joke, or did they present the truth? I personally have not discredited the matters you claim to be factual, or made out they are science fiction. I have challenged you on goodness knows how many occasions over trinitarian matters, but I think I have a right to do that. FWIW I have not lost sight of the fact that it was you, YES YOU NATHAN, who made me aware that the Germans had tanks and stuff when they invaded Russia during Operation Barbarossa in June 1941. I proved you correct when I saw films about the war. Also, you stated that during World War II the Germans had secret bases in Occupied Europe. Again this have been proved to be the case. You have created many enemies on TMB. Please don't try and add me to the list. I can assure you that hormonally I find posters such as Roselyn T, Dmichgood, Cherie, Verna, etc., far more enticing than yourself, so be careful. Very careful! *** You are an prankster and entertainer, Ram... Hardly, anyone take your post seriously anymore even you are telling you always have your barb wired woven in your posts. You are NOT my friend, Ram for years and you KNOW it. We have been butred heads for quite some times with your anti-Trinity stance and many other topics. You pretend to be my friend and you get your sharp knife and stab me in the back and said oops! Sorry, the devil made me to do it. Nathan, I think you are getting rather paranoid. I have taken a lot of flak over the years for defending you and supporting your various causes. By challenging you on the trinity, et al, I am proving that I am not a Nathan sycophant.
I'm sure you are confusing me with Wally in some way. It is he who possesses the sharp knife and displays it openly, even taking it or his six shooter to meetings.
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Post by nathan02 on Nov 20, 2021 16:27:22 GMT -5
*** You are an prankster and entertainer, Ram... Hardly, anyone take your post seriously anymore even you are telling you always have your barb wired woven in your posts. You are NOT my friend, Ram for years and you KNOW it. We have been butred heads for quite some times with your anti-Trinity stance and many other topics. You pretend to be my friend and you get your sharp knife and stab me in the back and said oops! Sorry, the devil made me to do it. Nathan, I think you are getting rather paranoid. I have taken a lot of flak over the years for defending you and supporting your various causes. By challenging you on the trinity, et al, I am proving that I am not a Nathan sycophant.
I'm sure you are confusing me with Wally in some way. It is he who possesses the sharp knife and displays it openly, even taking it or his six shooter to meetings.
*** Wally, has a good Knife and he will NOT use on good people. He would NOT stab his knife in the back of someone! He cares about. He and I don't always agree on everything! He doesn't believe in ETs or their presence on earth and I respect him for that. We just leave at that and I don't force it on him and he doesn't go out his way to make me look bad. That is a TRUE friend indeed and hard one to find that stand by you. |
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Post by mountain on Nov 20, 2021 16:36:45 GMT -5
*** Wally, has a good Knife and he will NOT use on good people. He would NOT stab his knife in the back of someone! He cares about. He and I don't always agree on everything! He doesn't believe in ETs or their presence on earth and I respect him for that. We just leave at that and I don't force it on him and he doesn't go out his way to make me look bad. That is a TRUE friend indeed and hard one to find that stand by you. Has Wally ever designed a thread to prove that you are right? Or created a separate thread to highlight this fact? Nathan I am not your collie dog to take for a walk. True friends care about you and even try to advise you on the best course of action to take. I tried desperately to get you to run your posts past two current workers serving in different fields, before you post, or alternatively to run your intended posts past Virgs for authentication before posting them, but you stubbornly refused to do so. Since you rejected that advice it seems your character displayed on this board has degenerated to a seriously low degree. Had you taken my advice you most certainly would not be in the position you are now. I can't force you to listen to common sense, but remember it is not too late to heed the advice given to you. |
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Post by nathan02 on Nov 20, 2021 16:44:05 GMT -5
*** Wally, has a good Knife and he will NOT use on good people. He would NOT stab his knife in the back of someone! He cares about. He and I don't always agree on everything! He doesn't believe in ETs or their presence on earth and I respect him for that. We just leave at that and I don't force it on him and he doesn't go out his way to make me look bad. That is a TRUE friend indeed and hard one to find that stand by you. Has Wally ever designed a thread to prove that you are right? Or created a separate thread to highlight this fact? Nathan I am not your collie dog to take for a walk. True friends care about you and even try to advise you on the best course of action to take. I tried desperately to get you to run your posts past two current workers serving in different fields, before you post, or alternatively to run your intended posts past Virgs for authentication before posting them, but you stubbornly refused to do so. Since you rejected that advice it seems your character displayed on this board has degenerated to a seriously low degree. Had you taken my advice you most certainly would not be in the position you are now. I can't force you to listen to common sense, but remember it is not too late to heed the advice given to you. *** Sorry, Ram... You are a nice guy but I trust Wally as my friend in Christ more than I trust you. As for your advice you can keep it or give it to some body else. |
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Post by mountain on Nov 20, 2021 16:55:38 GMT -5
Has Wally ever designed a thread to prove that you are right? Or created a separate thread to highlight this fact? Nathan I am not your collie dog to take for a walk. True friends care about you and even try to advise you on the best course of action to take. I tried desperately to get you to run your posts past two current workers serving in different fields, before you post, or alternatively to run your intended posts past Virgs for authentication before posting them, but you stubbornly refused to do so. Since you rejected that advice it seems your character displayed on this board has degenerated to a seriously low degree. Had you taken my advice you most certainly would not be in the position you are now. I can't force you to listen to common sense, but remember it is not too late to heed the advice given to you. *** Sorry, Ram... You are a nice guy but I trust Wally as my friend in Christ more than I trust you. As for your advice you can keep it or give it to some body else. To use your own words Nathan. 'You can take a horse to water but you can't make it drink.' I am highly honoured that you rate me after Wally.
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Post by nathan02 on Nov 20, 2021 17:11:04 GMT -5
*** Sorry, Ram... You are a nice guy but I trust Wally as my friend in Christ more than I trust you. As for your advice you can keep it or give it to some body else. To use your own words Nathan. 'You can take a horse to water but you can't make it drink.' I am highly honoured that you rate me after Wally.
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Post by dmmichgood on Nov 20, 2021 17:22:56 GMT -5
*** Wally, has a good Knife and he will NOT use on good people. He would NOT stab his knife in the back of someone! He cares about. He and I don't always agree on everything! He doesn't believe in ETs or their presence on earth and I respect him for that. We just leave at that and I don't force it on him and he doesn't go out his way to make me look bad. That is a TRUE friend indeed and hard one to find that stand by you.
But who made wally so 'all knowing' that he can decide on who is and who isn't GOOD people?  |
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Post by nathan02 on Nov 20, 2021 17:52:19 GMT -5
*** Wally, has a good Knife and he will NOT use on good people. He would NOT stab his knife in the back of someone! He cares about. He and I don't always agree on everything! He doesn't believe in ETs or their presence on earth and I respect him for that. We just leave at that and I don't force it on him and he doesn't go out his way to make me look bad. That is a TRUE friend indeed and hard one to find that stand by you.
But who made wally so 'all knowing' that he can decide on who is and who isn't GOOD people? ** The Holy Spirit will guide him for self defense purpose. |
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Post by bluejay on Nov 20, 2021 19:06:33 GMT -5
You tried this trick in the past Fixit! You asked the Admn. To ban hollow earth, Jesus lives inside Venus, Valiant Thor on the main page! However, you keep mentioned these subjects in your posts and when I replied to your posts then you cried out to the Admn. That I mention these things on the main page! The Admin. saw what you were doing, trying to get me in trouble with him so, he ignored your complains from then on. You are very a wicked 2x2 elder! Just like Reviewed had mentioned in his posts. When I get home I have to post it again for all to see you are a very, very bad 2x2 elder. Nathan, The world has changed so much from the time I was a child until current recent that I no longer feel like I belong here. 40- 50 years ago ninety percent of people would have known Strangest was a crock of lies at worst or a nut job at the lest. From the day I ran my own house on Easter and Thanks giving for table wine we always had a few bottles of Blue Nun, and lest we forget, it was once a very big deal. The sweetened, mass-market German liebfraumilch (although it is no longer classified as one) took the UK and US by storm at a time when a generation of baby-boomers was reaching the legal drinking age. From the end of WWII until it peaked in the 1980s, reaching annual sales of 2m cases worldwide. So I go to Albertsons to pick up a few bottles and the shelves are empty. So, I ask the spirits department head what has replaced it (thinking he would name some medium priced Riesling). So I asked the fellow and he says most people replace it with a rosé. The first Blue Nun was a 1921 Liebfraumilch, then a respected style of semi-sweet white wine from the Rhine winelands in Germany. But seems no longer in this world. Perhaps I would feel better living on Venus. Is there no help for the son of the widow? Blue Nun wine! Oh the memories.  |
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Post by speak on Nov 20, 2021 21:35:42 GMT -5
We say the same of you, Natie. 💋 haha, you doom to hell for sure with those red lips stick! Judge much. |
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Post by speak on Nov 20, 2021 21:38:24 GMT -5
*** You are a joker, a prankster and entertainer on here for years! You posted all kinds of B.S. like Dorothy William letter and many were so upset that you played with their emotion, inner feelings and fragile minds! Your funny 2 Trinity polls what a joke! People told you stop doing that but you don't care, and you keep on playing your mind games of entertainment. The things which I post are NOT science fiction but FACTS! Nathan, if you study my responses properly, you will see that I am supporting your right to present your beliefs, but in a way which does not sicken other people. I fail to see how you can have reasonable grounds to object to that, unless your intention is to annoy or disturb everyone else. I have made no judgement on the factual standards of your presentations in the above responses. That is up to the individual to decide for themselves, a principle you seem keen to promote at every opportunity. You claim my two trinity related polls were a joke. Does this apply to the Nathan is Right poll which was heavily designed to show you in good light, as well as the Nathan is right thread (not the poll). Both of these presented you as exemplary in all things. Were these a joke, or did they present the truth? I personally have not discredited the matters you claim to be factual, or made out they are science fiction. I have challenged you on goodness knows how many occasions over trinitarian matters, but I think I have a right to do that. FWIW I have not lost sight of the fact that it was you, YES YOU NATHAN, who made me aware that the Germans had tanks and stuff when they invaded Russia during Operation Barbarossa in June 1941. I proved you correct when I saw films about the war. Also, you stated that during World War II the Germans had secret bases in Occupied Europe. Again this have been proved to be the case. You have created many enemies on TMB. Please don't try and add me to the list. I can assure you that hormonally I find posters such as Roselyn T, Dmichgood, Cherie, Verna, etc., far more enticing than yourself, so be careful. Very careful! You needed nathan to tell you that? It was common knowledge. |
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