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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Aug 2, 2021 15:22:47 GMT -5
This is not a cop out- it is exactly how science as a method works. I start my Philosophy of Science course highlighting this concept. Science is rich with examples of the "first explanation" being only vaguely accurate, and full of errors. It's a human made method of finding natural explanations for natural phenomena. Newtons Three Laws are a classic example of this. Einstein built on them. Without the understanding that this has given modern humans there would be no satelites or moon landings as an example.
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Post by BobWilliston on Aug 2, 2021 16:26:02 GMT -5
Do you think the workers are more upset about Nathan believing that Jesus live inside Venus? Or an elder who believes in evolution? It's a delicate balance between income and open controversy.
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Post by BobWilliston on Aug 2, 2021 16:27:44 GMT -5
IMO, understanding science and how it works is part of being a literate human being. cop out But they don't lie to cover up the new findings.
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Post by BobWilliston on Aug 2, 2021 16:29:29 GMT -5
You can't walk around without a gun to protect yourself and hide it. Did the jews have faith when they carried swords? No. That's why they kept them nicely sharpened.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2021 16:45:03 GMT -5
This is not a cop out- it is exactly how science as a method works. I start my Philosophy of Science course highlighting this concept. Science is rich with examples of the "first explanation" being only vaguely accurate, and full of errors. It's a human made method of finding natural explanations for natural phenomena. If a christian were to say OOPS they would get a much different response than if a scientist says OOPS going by the rather lame excuse above, therein lies a problem... In science, it's not "oops", although I understand why (given the political climate where everyone is trying to "catch" the "enemy") it would seem so. Science gives us knowledge which changes as new data are discovered. Darwin (and others at the time) believed in distinct "races" of humans. They used a taxonomic system based on appearance, which was as good a science had at the time. It took 150 years and a lot of molecular genetics to show that, not only is "race" a useless scientific concept, but that for a species with as much variation in appearance a us, we are shockingly similar. And definitely only one species. For your analogy to hold up, the Christian community would have to have a revelation-based idea overturn what they had previously believed. This has happened countless times. When the Church did away with limbo for instance, or officially retired the positron of "devils advocate". Closer to home, the workers decided not too long ago that abusing children was a worse offense than involving police in the affairs of the friends and workers. This startling moral breakthrough was a good first step in them becoming ethically upright.
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Post by speak on Aug 2, 2021 16:47:47 GMT -5
Do you think the workers are more upset about Nathan believing that Jesus live inside Venus? Or an elder who believes in evolution? Teaching something that is false is a great sin before God. This is what he wrote. I have never said that I am a believer in the Big Bang Theory
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Post by speak on Aug 2, 2021 16:49:12 GMT -5
Was Paul a self appointed or God's appointed? I'll one up you. Was Paul a single person? I'll ask if he had a spaceship?
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Post by speak on Aug 2, 2021 16:54:05 GMT -5
Well, Mr. Nathan the facts are that several different people are combined to be Paul. Just do a study of the text attributed to Paul and sort out when and where they were written. Notice I said attributed to. And don't fall into the trap that claims Paul used scribes. ** You are crazy. In his old age Timothy and his followers had been the scribes to write letters for him to different churches, because his eyes sight were deterioting. Why not just say, In his old age Timothy and his followers............... instead of are you crazy? a good start to get someone's back up.
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Post by speak on Aug 2, 2021 16:55:32 GMT -5
IMO, understanding science and how it works is part of being a literate human being. cop out Ha ha, say's the master of.
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Post by Annan on Aug 2, 2021 16:56:10 GMT -5
** You are crazy. In his old age Timothy and his followers had been the scribes to write letters for him to different churches, because his eyes sight were deterioting. Why not just say, In his old age Timothy and his followers............... instead of are you crazy? a good start to get someone's back up. It's how Nathan puffs himself up. 1 Corinthians 4:6-7 Now these things, brethren, I have figuratively transferred to myself and Apollos for your sakes, that you may learn in us not to think beyond what is written, that none of you may be puffed up on behalf of one against the other. For who makes you differ from another? And what do you have that you did not receive? Now if you did indeed receive it, why do you boast as if you had not received it?
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Post by speak on Aug 2, 2021 16:57:28 GMT -5
You can't walk around without a gun to protect yourself and hide it. Did the jews have faith when they carried swords? Obviously not. If you think your little pop gun is of greater power than God's presents/power i feel sad for you.
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Post by speak on Aug 2, 2021 17:01:57 GMT -5
I am a person that has lived his life under the influence of science. Therefore, I can with confidence say when I call you a pig head fool it is not scientific it's an opinion. I'll keep it more simple you are just a fool...the bible talks about you here: Psa_14:1 To the chief Musician, A Psalm of David. The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good. and a bit later here for further clarification: Psa_53:1 To the chief Musician upon Mahalath, Maschil, A Psalm of David. The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good. Didn't you say NO ONE I can see has used force to spread the gospel on this forum that i know of... but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
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Post by speak on Aug 2, 2021 17:04:32 GMT -5
Is quoting scripture the only tool in your shed? Hymn 281 covers that: I need no book by Thine own word, Nor can the thoughts of men afford, A light to be my guide Very easy to quote, practice is of God.
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Post by speak on Aug 2, 2021 17:06:59 GMT -5
This is not a cop out- it is exactly how science as a method works. I start my Philosophy of Science course highlighting this concept. Science is rich with examples of the "first explanation" being only vaguely accurate, and full of errors. It's a human made method of finding natural explanations for natural phenomena. I wonder if anything that wally uses in his life has used science in the making thereof?
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Post by speak on Aug 2, 2021 17:08:39 GMT -5
And who do you think the Thine is referencing? Do you know the verse from the Surah 112? "God the one, God the Eternal, He did not beget, and was not begotten." Considering how many people follow the Surah vs. those that follow the New Testament, which is correct? ** I follow Christ Jesus he claimed to be God and Almighty in Rev. 1:8. God the Father said Christ/God Son He crated the Universe, angels, the animals, the human and so on. God the Father called the Christ/Son " God and LORD/Yahweh." but not in His kindness
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Post by chuck on Aug 2, 2021 17:10:01 GMT -5
It's hard to have concern for self appointed authorities in something that's not their business.... “If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds." 2 John 1:10-11 Pretty dictatorial What's dictatorial about not welcoming that into your family?
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Post by speak on Aug 2, 2021 17:11:27 GMT -5
This is not a cop out- it is exactly how science as a method works. I start my Philosophy of Science course highlighting this concept. Science is rich with examples of the "first explanation" being only vaguely accurate, and full of errors. It's a human made method of finding natural explanations for natural phenomena. Newtons Three Laws are a classic example of this. Einstein built on them. Without the understanding that this has given modern humans there would be no satelites or moon landings as an example. Or maybe t spoons hey just thought maybe they won't take the vaccine because it is of science.
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Post by chuck on Aug 2, 2021 17:12:53 GMT -5
It's hard to have concern for self appointed authorities in something that's not their business.... Was Paul a self appointed or God's appointed?It's hard to have a discussion about this when you think your like Paul.....
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Post by speak on Aug 2, 2021 17:13:18 GMT -5
But they don't lie to cover up the new findings. Seems to me that God allows science, I mean where would wally have got his gun?
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Post by speak on Aug 2, 2021 17:15:09 GMT -5
Why not just say, In his old age Timothy and his followers............... instead of are you crazy? a good start to get someone's back up. It's how Nathan puffs himself up. 1 Corinthians 4:6-7 Now these things, brethren, I have figuratively transferred to myself and Apollos for your sakes, that you may learn in us not to think beyond what is written, that none of you may be puffed up on behalf of one against the other. For who makes you differ from another? And what do you have that you did not receive? Now if you did indeed receive it, why do you boast as if you had not received it? Sorry but that is not in nathans gospel.
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Post by chuck on Aug 2, 2021 17:44:02 GMT -5
This is not a cop out- it is exactly how science as a method works. I start my Philosophy of Science course highlighting this concept. Science is rich with examples of the "first explanation" being only vaguely accurate, and full of errors. It's a human made method of finding natural explanations for natural phenomena. I wonder if anything that wally uses in his life has used science in the making thereof? The thing on his hip....which is why I say he trusts science when it's convenient......
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2021 18:30:38 GMT -5
Did the jews have faith when they carried swords? No. not biblical....
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2021 18:33:36 GMT -5
Did the jews have faith when they carried swords? Obviously not. If you think your little pop gun is of greater power than God's presents/power i feel sad for you. that is not biblical....good try though
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2021 18:35:12 GMT -5
This is not a cop out- it is exactly how science as a method works. I start my Philosophy of Science course highlighting this concept. Science is rich with examples of the "first explanation" being only vaguely accurate, and full of errors. It's a human made method of finding natural explanations for natural phenomena. I wonder if anything that wally uses in his life has used science in the making thereof? just disagree with the parts that contradict the bible or common sense...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2021 18:40:30 GMT -5
If you were science-literate, you would know better. matisseopinion, period. I doubt you are any more literate in science than I am. I'm just able to detect BS better than you on some of it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2021 18:42:47 GMT -5
But they don't lie to cover up the new findings. yeah they do it usually comes in the form of "well we didn't know" all the while saying that they do know or "its settled"...
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Post by matisse on Aug 2, 2021 18:48:28 GMT -5
If you were science-literate, you would know better. matisseopinion, period. I doubt you are any more literate in science than I am. I'm just able to detect BS better than you on some of it. I am a practicing scientist. Your science illiteracy is glaring.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2021 18:53:48 GMT -5
matisseopinion, period. I doubt you are any more literate in science than I am. I'm just able to detect BS better than you on some of it. I am a practicing scientist. Your science illiteracy is glaring. interesting. matisseopinion noted...
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