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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2021 0:26:41 GMT -5
Then explain how downunders entertain the big bang fable and the evilution fable all while being "in the spirit"... wally why do you trust science when it's only convenient..... Genesis is a story or poem not a science book...... This is why it helps to understand what the Hebrew people thought the holy spirit was as accecpting evolution as best we know it does not go against a bondage free characteristic..... The Bible is not a science book true, but it does have some science in it. its not "just a story" nor is it "a poem"...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2021 0:28:02 GMT -5
I have never said that I am a believer in the Big Bang Theory okay thanks for clearing that up....are you a believer in evolution?
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Post by chuck on Aug 2, 2021 0:59:19 GMT -5
wally why do you trust science when it's only convenient..... Genesis is a story or poem not a science book...... This is why it helps to understand what the Hebrew people thought the holy spirit was as accecpting evolution as best we know it does not go against a bondage free characteristic..... The Bible is not a science book true, but it does have some science in it. its not "just a story" nor is it "a poem"... Care to elaborate......
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Post by nathan on Aug 2, 2021 1:15:28 GMT -5
matisse didn't you realise @wally is the only person who can read or understand the "rule book" ! He is closer to God than everyone else...just ask him ! 99 to 1... Hey, RT.... Don't forget about me, now.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2021 1:19:34 GMT -5
The Bible is not a science book true, but it does have some science in it. its not "just a story" nor is it "a poem"... Care to elaborate...... here is a small sample....you'll have to buy the book to read about the 100 other facts in the bible... www.provethebible.com/101-scientific-facts.html
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Post by fixit on Aug 2, 2021 1:20:13 GMT -5
There's no conflict between science and the spirit. You're led by your belief system rather than the spirit. Don't you think God is capable of orchestrating evolution? If you were honest you would admit there is... The spirit leads me away from evilution and the big bang.... Amoebas do not eventually turn into humans, cats do not turn into dogs. It seems that your faith is somewhat weaker than mine.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2021 1:21:37 GMT -5
If you were honest you would admit there is... The spirit leads me away from evilution and the big bang.... Amoebas do not eventually turn into humans, cats do not turn into dogs. It seems that your faith is somewhat weaker than mine. I doubt it...
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Post by speak on Aug 2, 2021 1:53:34 GMT -5
It seems that your faith is somewhat weaker than mine. I doubt it... You can't walk around without a gun to protect yourself and hide it.
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Post by chuck on Aug 2, 2021 3:11:34 GMT -5
Nothing about how Genesis is not a story or poem.......
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Post by chuck on Aug 2, 2021 3:13:04 GMT -5
Hey, RT.... Don't forget about me, now. Are your odds 99 to 1 as well?
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Post by Pragmatic on Aug 2, 2021 4:32:38 GMT -5
I have never said that I am a believer in the Big Bang Theory okay thanks for clearing that up....are you a believer in evolution? Well, “nothing is impossible...” but I do believe in mutation and species evolving within themselves. But Evolution as the answer to how we got here is a theory, and I’ll leave it at that.
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Post by fixit on Aug 2, 2021 4:56:37 GMT -5
Science is a systematic enterprise that builds and organizes knowledge in the form of testable explanations and predictions about the universe.
Both scientists and theologians tend to overreach and interfere in each other's domains.
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Post by openingact34 on Aug 2, 2021 6:19:51 GMT -5
Do you think the workers are more upset about Nathan believing that Jesus live inside Venus? Or an elder who believes in evolution?
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Post by matisse on Aug 2, 2021 6:45:33 GMT -5
This is full of debatable or ludicrous assertions. Typical Christian Apologia - those hungry for reassurance will lap it up without question.
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Post by chuck on Aug 2, 2021 6:58:01 GMT -5
Do you think the workers are more upset about Nathan believing that Jesus live inside Venus? Or an elder who believes in evolution? It's hard to have concern for self appointed authorities in something that's not their business....
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Post by nathan on Aug 2, 2021 8:21:54 GMT -5
Do you think the workers are more upset about Nathan believing that Jesus live inside Venus? Or an elder who believes in evolution? It's hard to have concern for self appointed authorities in something that's not their business.... Was Paul a self appointed or God's appointed?
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Post by intelchips on Aug 2, 2021 8:46:12 GMT -5
It's hard to have concern for self appointed authorities in something that's not their business.... Was Paul a self appointed or God's appointed?I'll one up you. Was Paul a single person?
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Post by nathan on Aug 2, 2021 8:48:15 GMT -5
Was Paul a self appointed or God's appointed? I'll one up you. Was Paul a single person? Paul was a single person when God and Christ appointed him in Acts 9. Paul could have been married before he was a Christian. Paul's wife could have died, who knows.
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Post by intelchips on Aug 2, 2021 8:52:50 GMT -5
I'll one up you. Was Paul a single person? Paul was a single person when God and Christ appointed him in Acts 9. Paul could have been married before he was a Christian. Paul's wife could have died, who knows.Single as in was he one person or several people using his name.
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Post by nathan on Aug 2, 2021 8:56:44 GMT -5
Paul was a single person when God and Christ appointed him in Acts 9. Paul could have been married before he was a Christian. Paul's wife could have died, who knows. Single as in was he one person or several people using his name. His name was Saul then AFTER he became a follower of Christ he changed his name to Paul. Saul and Paul was ONE person but with two different names.
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Post by intelchips on Aug 2, 2021 9:03:49 GMT -5
Single as in was he one person or several people using his name. His name was Saul then AFTER he became a follower of Christ he changed his name to Paul. Saul and Paul was ONE person but with two different names.Well, Mr. Nathan the facts are that several different people are combined to be Paul. Just do a study of the text attributed to Paul and sort out when and where they were written. Notice I said attributed to. And don't fall into the trap that claims Paul used scribes.
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Post by openingact34 on Aug 2, 2021 9:05:36 GMT -5
Do you think the workers are more upset about Nathan believing that Jesus live inside Venus? Or an elder who believes in evolution? It's hard to have concern for self appointed authorities in something that's not their business.... “If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds." 2 John 1:10-11 Pretty dictatorial
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Post by intelchips on Aug 2, 2021 9:19:39 GMT -5
It's hard to have concern for self appointed authorities in something that's not their business.... “If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds." 2 John 1:10-11 Pretty dictatorial I was just recently in a study group that was looking into the many Christian groups that were all competing for the primary spot light and some of them had really strange ideas compared to modern day Christians.
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Post by openingact34 on Aug 2, 2021 10:04:32 GMT -5
“If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds." 2 John 1:10-11 Pretty dictatorial I was just recently in a study group that was looking into the many Christian groups that were all competing for the primary spot light and some of them had really strange ideas compared to modern day Christians. So which one survived to be considered orthodox today? The "normal" one? Or one of the "strange" ones?
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Post by intelchips on Aug 2, 2021 10:41:37 GMT -5
I was just recently in a study group that was looking into the many Christian groups that were all competing for the primary spot light and some of them had really strange ideas compared to modern day Christians. So which one survived to be considered orthodox today? The "normal" one? Or one of the "strange" ones? The Roman back one
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Post by nathan02 on Aug 2, 2021 10:58:16 GMT -5
His name was Saul then AFTER he became a follower of Christ he changed his name to Paul. Saul and Paul was ONE person but with two different names. Well, Mr. Nathan the facts are that several different people are combined to be Paul. Just do a study of the text attributed to Paul and sort out when and where they were written. Notice I said attributed to. And don't fall into the trap that claims Paul used scribes. ** You are crazy. In his old age Timothy and his followers had been the scribes to write letters for him to different churches, because his eyes sight were deterioting.
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Post by matisse on Aug 2, 2021 11:08:55 GMT -5
IMO, understanding science and how it works is part of being a literate human being.
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Post by intelchips on Aug 2, 2021 11:10:37 GMT -5
Well, Mr. Nathan the facts are that several different people are combined to be Paul. Just do a study of the text attributed to Paul and sort out when and where they were written. Notice I said attributed to. And don't fall into the trap that claims Paul used scribes. ** You are crazy. In his old age Timothy and his followers had been the scribes to write letters for him to different churches, because his eyes sight were deterioting. what old age? what's your source? Together, all of the elements of the letters attributed to Paul Some of them point to the conclusion that the author wrote these letters after the lifetime of Paul. He reaches back in time to the figure of Paul in order to validate the teachings given to the community of faith in his own time. The figures of Timothy and Titus represent the leaders in the communities of faith in this later period.
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