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Post by nathan02 on Jun 28, 2021 22:25:58 GMT -5
Do you think in Cave 3 has only 3 scrolls? I have read and studied many of Frank's Scrolls and they are good. You think they are good because they support your 21st century gospel. ** It will give the readers and believers an idea what God and Christ have prepared for them when he returns to as King of the Universe and the works God has for them during 1000 yrs reign. What God and Christ have prepared for His servants and peopke are so wonderful and glorious.
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Post by openingact34 on Jun 28, 2021 22:37:18 GMT -5
Dont fret, I don't expect a compliment from you, I do however expect you to commit me to hell, much to your God's chagrin. You are a Christian that dosent share my point of view after all. Nathan is not a Christian, because he believes God and Jesus live inside Venus and angels fly in and out on spaceships. Realistically, most Christians would consider your opposition to the trinity to be a much bigger blasphemy than Nathan's claims about Jesus's space station in hollow Venus. For most of modern history, it would have been the difference between being burned at the stake vs being flogged or tortured with hot irons. Even today, I suspect the exes and TLC crowd would have to admit that you are less Christian in doctrine. If you don't believe Jesus is God you go straight to hell per God's loving followers. Adding a few spaceships and six-fingered aliens into the gospel isn't a serious doctrinal issue by comparison.
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Post by nathan02 on Jun 28, 2021 23:02:32 GMT -5
*** The scriptures are there people can read it for themselves who God will cast in the Lake of fire for eternity. Thankyou for highlighting my argument. *** FYI, Wally and I don't burn people in the lake of fire, people go there willingly when they don't believe in God and Christ teachings.
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Post by chuck on Jun 28, 2021 23:19:52 GMT -5
Thankyou for highlighting my argument. *** FYI, Wally and I don't burn people in the lake of fire, people go there willingly when they don't believe in God and Christ teachings. Yes you do, because anyone that doesn't see it like you is sent there in your mind......your way is the only way to Christ therfore anyone that doesn't see it your way is on a express ride to hell. The innuendos in your preaching is on full display daily, you could however set the record straight.... Will I burn in hell if I dont see it like you do Nathan?.....
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Post by nathan02 on Jun 28, 2021 23:26:00 GMT -5
*** FYI, Wally and I don't burn people in the lake of fire, people go there willingly when they don't believe in God and Christ teachings. Yes you do, because anyone that doesn't see it like you is sent there in your mind......your way is the only way to Christ therfore anyone that doesn't see it your way is on a express ride to hell. The innuendos in your preaching is on full display daily, you could however set the record straight.... Will I burn in hell if I dont see it like you do Nathan?..... ** If you don't believe in Jesus teachings or stop serving God you will burn in the lake of fire for eternity. Wally and I can't get you out of there, Chuck. That is why Wally and I are trying to warn you here and now.
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Post by chuck on Jun 28, 2021 23:33:55 GMT -5
Yes you do, because anyone that doesn't see it like you is sent there in your mind......your way is the only way to Christ therfore anyone that doesn't see it your way is on a express ride to hell. The innuendos in your preaching is on full display daily, you could however set the record straight.... Will I burn in hell if I dont see it like you do Nathan?..... ** If you don't believe in Jesus teachings or stop serving God you will burn in the lake of fire for eternity. Wally and I can't get you out of there, Chuck. That is why Wally and I are trying to warn you here and now. Comprehend what I just said, you don't have to agree with it, but at least understand it, because at the moment you do not....
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2021 0:27:33 GMT -5
*** FYI, Wally and I don't burn people in the lake of fire, people go there willingly when they don't believe in God and Christ teachings. Yes you do, because anyone that doesn't see it like you is sent there in your mind......your way is the only way to Christ therfore anyone that doesn't see it your way is on a express ride to hell. The innuendos in your preaching is on full display daily, you could however set the record straight.... Will I burn in hell if I dont see it like you do Nathan?..... the only one that is gonna burn ole chuck is ole chuck. get rid of your guilt trip (whatever that is) and you might see more clearly to dig your way out of the hole your in...luke 16...
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Post by chuck on Jun 29, 2021 1:30:44 GMT -5
Yes you do, because anyone that doesn't see it like you is sent there in your mind......your way is the only way to Christ therfore anyone that doesn't see it your way is on a express ride to hell. The innuendos in your preaching is on full display daily, you could however set the record straight.... Will I burn in hell if I dont see it like you do Nathan?..... the only one that is gonna burn ole chuck is ole chuck. get rid of your guilt trip (whatever that is) and you might see more clearly to dig your way out of the hole your in...luke 16... i don't feel guilty.....that stopped when I realised 2x2ism and many religions rely on guilt.... I did feel guilty about condemning other's to hell that didn't look like me....but then I realised that any decent human being would forgive me for my mind being so screwed up beyond recognition by religion and I didn't know what I going on about....that is the mercy of God!....no supernatural intervention required........just people treating other people as human beings..... i don't feel guilty at all.....that stopped when I realised 2x2ism and many religions rely on guilt... Do you know what the idea of yom kippur was wally? and how they felt wally? Well when you do apply that to the symbolism around Christ and you may grasp what I am saying.....
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Post by guest8 on Jun 29, 2021 1:45:10 GMT -5
Thankyou for highlighting my argument. *** FYI, Wally and I don't burn people in the lake of fire, people go there willingly when they don't believe in God and Christ teachings. FYI believing in God and Christ teachings is exactly that. You don't add an alien gospel to it. But for some strange reason, this will never sink in. Did Leo Stancliff teach you this under the tree? I think beyond a doubt, you have a false sense of security and assurance, considering what you do.
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Post by chuck on Jun 29, 2021 1:52:46 GMT -5
Yes you do, because anyone that doesn't see it like you is sent there in your mind......your way is the only way to Christ therfore anyone that doesn't see it your way is on a express ride to hell. The innuendos in your preaching is on full display daily, you could however set the record straight.... Will I burn in hell if I dont see it like you do Nathan?..... the only one that is gonna burn ole chuck is ole chuck. get rid of your guilt trip (whatever that is) and you might see more clearly to dig your way out of the hole your in...luke 16... Will I burn in hell for not seeing it like you wally? 33 “Again, you have heard that it was said to the people long ago, ‘Do not break your oath, but fulfill to the Lord the vows you have made.’34 But I tell you, do not swear an oath at all: either by heaven, for it is God’s throne;35 or by the earth, for it is his footstool; or by Jerusalem, for it is the city of the Great King.36 And do not swear by your head, for you cannot make even one hair white or black.37 All you need to say is simply ‘Yes’ or ‘No’; anything beyond this comes from the evil one. - Matthew 5:33-37 www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew5:33-37&version=NIV
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2021 1:55:34 GMT -5
the only one that is gonna burn ole chuck is ole chuck. get rid of your guilt trip (whatever that is) and you might see more clearly to dig your way out of the hole your in...luke 16... i don't feel guilty.....that stopped when I realised 2x2ism and many religions rely on guilt.... I did feel guilty about condemning other's to hell that didn't look like me....but then I realised that any decent human being would forgive me for my mind being so screwed up beyond recognition by religion and I didn't know what I going on about....that is the mercy of God!....no supernatural intervention required........just people treating other people as human beings..... i don't feel guilty at all.....that stopped when I realised 2x2ism and many religions rely on guilt... Do you know what the idea of yom kippur was wally? and how they felt wally? Well when you do apply that to the symbolism around Christ and you may grasp what I am saying..... so now you celebrate yom kippur do ya? you are jewish now? yom kippur wont save ya Christ will though...how does that work though as you are an atheist?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2021 2:03:12 GMT -5
the only one that is gonna burn ole chuck is ole chuck. get rid of your guilt trip (whatever that is) and you might see more clearly to dig your way out of the hole your in...luke 16... Will I burn in hell for not seeing it like you wally? 33 “Again, you have heard that it was said to the people long ago, ‘Do not break your oath, but fulfill to the Lord the vows you have made.’34 But I tell you, do not swear an oath at all: either by heaven, for it is God’s throne;35 or by the earth, for it is his footstool; or by Jerusalem, for it is the city of the Great King.36 And do not swear by your head, for you cannot make even one hair white or black.37 All you need to say is simply ‘Yes’ or ‘No’; anything beyond this comes from the evil one. - Matthew 5:33-37 www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew5:33-37&version=NIVi've never used the term "if you don't see it like me you'll burn". that guilt trip has you in its grasp you need to shake it and fast... that bit of scripture is about as relevant to this discussion as the moon being made of swiss cheese...
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Post by fixit on Jun 29, 2021 2:59:14 GMT -5
Nathan is not a Christian, because he believes God and Jesus live inside Venus and angels fly in and out on spaceships. Realistically, most Christians would consider your opposition to the trinity to be a much bigger blasphemy than Nathan's claims about Jesus's space station in hollow Venus. For most of modern history, it would have been the difference between being burned at the stake vs being flogged or tortured with hot irons. Even today, I suspect the exes and TLC crowd would have to admit that you are less Christian in doctrine. If you don't believe Jesus is God you go straight to hell per God's loving followers. Adding a few spaceships and six-fingered aliens into the gospel isn't a serious doctrinal issue by comparison. I'm pretty sure Nathan's loony delusions are tolerated on TMB because of his trinitarian beliefs.
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Post by fixit on Jun 29, 2021 3:01:01 GMT -5
Thankyou for highlighting my argument. *** FYI, Wally and I don't burn people in the lake of fire, people go there willingly when they don't believe in God and Christ teachings. Belief is not something people can switch on or switch off.
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Post by Grant on Jun 29, 2021 3:15:27 GMT -5
Realistically, most Christians would consider your opposition to the trinity to be a much bigger blasphemy than Nathan's claims about Jesus's space station in hollow Venus. For most of modern history, it would have been the difference between being burned at the stake vs being flogged or tortured with hot irons. Even today, I suspect the exes and TLC crowd would have to admit that you are less Christian in doctrine. If you don't believe Jesus is God you go straight to hell per God's loving followers. Adding a few spaceships and six-fingered aliens into the gospel isn't a serious doctrinal issue by comparison. I'm pretty sure Nathan's loony delusions are tolerated on TMB because of his trinitarian beliefs. Nathan's loony delusions are not tolerated by anyone on this board except Wally. That includes neither Trinity or non trinitians, Christian's or atheists or others. He's out on his own. There are some who mock him but he's not able to see through that and falls for it. All part of his inability to pick up on cues.
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Post by mountain on Jun 29, 2021 3:17:52 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure Nathan's loony delusions are tolerated on TMB because of his trinitarian beliefs. Nathan's loony delusions are not tolerated by anyone on this board except Wally. That includes neither Trinity or non trinitians, Christian's or atheists or others. He's out on his own. There are some who mock him but he's not able to see through that and falls for it. All part of his inability to pick up on cues. The term 'mock' needs to be researched and understood, otherwise its application may be out of context.
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Post by Grant on Jun 29, 2021 3:22:25 GMT -5
Nathan's loony delusions are not tolerated by anyone on this board except Wally. That includes neither Trinity or non trinitians, Christian's or atheists or others. He's out on his own. There are some who mock him but he's not able to see through that and falls for it. All part of his inability to pick up on cues. The term 'mock' needs to be researched and understood, otherwise its application may be out of context. Mock - tease or laugh at in a scornful or contemptuous manner. You are teasing him. It's dangerous as it's feeds his inflated ego. You know he takes your posts seriously and uses them to feed his ego.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Jun 29, 2021 3:32:01 GMT -5
Nathan's loony delusions are not tolerated by anyone on this board except Wally. That includes neither Trinity or non trinitians, Christian's or atheists or others. He's out on his own. There are some who mock him but he's not able to see through that and falls for it. All part of his inability to pick up on cues. The term 'mock' needs to be researched and understood, otherwise its application may be out of context. I have never liked mock cream. Too sugary and definetely bad for you.
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Post by mrdobalina on Jun 29, 2021 3:34:51 GMT -5
The term 'mock' needs to be researched and understood, otherwise its application may be out of context. Mock - tease or laugh at in a scornful or contemptuous manner. You are teasing him. It's dangerous as it's feeds his inflated ego. You know he takes your posts seriously and uses them to feed his ego. I was frankly astonished when I made the tongue in cheek quip that "I learned everything I know about the US from watching reruns of the Friends sitcom" Nathan laughed at me, saying that it was now all 30 years out of date now. Well yeah, what about the other pink elephant in the room, like me suggesting that you can learn anything at all from a sitcom. That's when I realized how the Venus thing got by him.
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Post by mountain on Jun 29, 2021 3:40:12 GMT -5
The term 'mock' needs to be researched and understood, otherwise its application may be out of context. Mock - tease or laugh at in a scornful or contemptuous manner. You are teasing him. It's dangerous as it's feeds his inflated ego. You know he takes your posts seriously and uses them to feed his ego. I strongly refute the definition of 'mock' as there is no intention to address Nathan in a scornful or contemptuous manner. If others perceive differently then I cannot help that. In the entertainment business, we are perceived in many different ways, often falsely. I have tried the serious approach on this board in many different ways, including: 1) Addressing CSA and other forms of abuse within the sect and was probably the first to do so. I suffered much mocking, even from some who later came to appreciate the issues. 2) Addressing the falsehood of the so called trinity. The mocking I received was overwhelming. 3) I stood up for the rights of Workers to wear shoes. Need I say more? Seriously, what is more dangerous. To acknowledge Nathan's beliefs, or to give credence to those held by Chuck? Keep in mind it was Chuck that I was addressing, NOT Nathan. By closing the door on one person and their issues, we must be careful, very careful indeed, that we do not throw open a wider entrance-way to another with arguably more incredible ideas.
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Post by Grant on Jun 29, 2021 3:47:53 GMT -5
What word would you prefer me to have used mountain? Would you feel more comfortable with the word tease?
It's dangerous as he feeds on your twisted posts, mountain. It doesn't put you in a good light.
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Post by chuck on Jun 29, 2021 4:04:14 GMT -5
Mock - tease or laugh at in a scornful or contemptuous manner. You are teasing him. It's dangerous as it's feeds his inflated ego. You know he takes your posts seriously and uses them to feed his ego. I strongly refute the definition of 'mock' as there is no intention to address Nathan in a scornful or contemptuous manner. If others perceive differently then I cannot help that. In the entertainment business, we are perceived in many different ways, often falsely. I have tried the serious approach on this board in many different ways, including: 1) Addressing CSA and other forms of abuse within the sect and was probably the first to do so. I suffered much mocking, even from some who later came to appreciate the issues. 2) Addressing the falsehood of the so called trinity. The mocking I received was overwhelming. 3) I stood up for the rights of Workers to wear shoes. Need I say more? Seriously, what is more dangerous. To acknowledge Nathan's beliefs, or to give credence to those held by Chuck? Keep in mind it was Chuck that I was addressing, NOT Nathan. By closing the door on one person and their issues, we must be careful, very careful indeed, that we do not throw open a wider entrance-way to another with arguably more incredible ideas. How dare we give credence to treating people not like ourselves as equal human beings.......
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Post by mountain on Jun 29, 2021 4:44:47 GMT -5
I strongly refute the definition of 'mock' as there is no intention to address Nathan in a scornful or contemptuous manner. If others perceive differently then I cannot help that. In the entertainment business, we are perceived in many different ways, often falsely. I have tried the serious approach on this board in many different ways, including: 1) Addressing CSA and other forms of abuse within the sect and was probably the first to do so. I suffered much mocking, even from some who later came to appreciate the issues. 2) Addressing the falsehood of the so called trinity. The mocking I received was overwhelming. 3) I stood up for the rights of Workers to wear shoes. Need I say more? Seriously, what is more dangerous. To acknowledge Nathan's beliefs, or to give credence to those held by Chuck? Keep in mind it was Chuck that I was addressing, NOT Nathan. By closing the door on one person and their issues, we must be careful, very careful indeed, that we do not throw open a wider entrance-way to another with arguably more incredible ideas. How dare we give credence to treating people not like ourselves as equal human beings....... I believe I was pointing out dangers rather than equality!
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Post by fixit on Jun 29, 2021 4:49:35 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure Nathan's loony delusions are tolerated on TMB because of his trinitarian beliefs. Nathan's loony delusions are not tolerated by anyone on this board except Wally. That includes neither Trinity or non trinitians, Christian's or atheists or others. He's out on his own. There are some who mock him but he's not able to see through that and falls for it. All part of his inability to pick up on cues. I was thinking more of the moderators tolerating the anarchy that makes TMB pretty much unusable for most ex and current members of the church.
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Post by mountain on Jun 29, 2021 5:54:54 GMT -5
What word would you prefer me to have used mountain? Would you feel more comfortable with the word tease? It's dangerous as he feeds on your twisted posts, mountain. It doesn't put you in a good light. Yes indeed, use the term 'tease!' Definition: 1. make fun of or attempt to provoke (a person or animal) in a playful way. I can't wriggle out of that one. I wouldn't describe my posts as twisted either. Consider the motive to arrive at a proper definition. Base it on 'tease!' I have no intention of putting my light under a bushel, good or bad light. As far as I am aware, over many years on this board, the majority of expressions have supported my brand of entertainment. FWIW you and Nathan are in the same minority camp. He is the one who has most (out of a very few people) criticised my wind ups and jovial jousts with the sensitivities of this board. Perhaps you are in some sort of competition with Nathan, hence the objections?
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Post by nathan02 on Jun 29, 2021 13:53:37 GMT -5
FYI believing in God and Christ teachings is exactly that. You don't add an alien gospel to it. But for some strange reason, this will never sink in. Did Leo Stancliff teach you this under the tree? I think beyond a doubt, you have a false sense of security and assurance, considering what you do. The Bible gospel is 2000 years old it's behind the time and the workers are preaching and teaching 2000 old New Testament of Jesus Christ ministry and fellowship... That is good but you want to update the listeners to 21st century gospel ministry and fellowship and beyond. The Old testament talks Chariots of fire or the wheel within the wheel= space crafts Some of the Old testament prophets like Ezekiel entered these crafts and so did Jesus according to DSS. it was NOT a star that guided the wise men to find the child Jesus but a UFO that guide them at night. A star is fixed or stationary and it can't move east to west or South to north but a UFO can move all kinds of direction it has lights at night to guide them. I posted many of these information in the past on here. The Venusians angels have been flying space crafts from one galaxy to the next fro billions of years. There are millions intelligence beings species have done the same traveling by using their space craft during the Dinasauors area. The DIA U.S. government is studying the space craft for 50 yrs. I posted this information in the past.
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Post by fixit on Jun 29, 2021 14:19:13 GMT -5
I posted this information in the past. Yes. Please don't do it any more. BTW, it's not information. It's opinion.
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Post by nathan02 on Jun 29, 2021 14:26:39 GMT -5
I posted this information in the past. Yes. Please don't do it any more. BTW, it's not information. It's opinion. ** The document comes from DIA U.S. government. When I get home I will post it for the new readers to take a closer look. So, they know it's NOT my opinion, Fixit.
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