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Post by dmmichgood on Jun 29, 2021 15:05:49 GMT -5
The Bible gospel is 2000 years old it's behind the time and the workers are preaching and teaching 2000 old New Testament of Jesus Christ ministry and fellowship... That is good but you want to update the listeners to 21st century gospel ministry and fellowship and beyond. The Old testament talks Chariots of fire or the wheel within the wheel= space crafts Some of the Old testament prophets like Ezekiel entered these crafts and so did Jesus according to DSS. it was NOT a star that guided the wise men to find the child Jesus but a UFO that guide them at night. A star is fixed or stationary and it can't move east to west or South to north but a UFO can move all kinds of direction it has lights at night to guide them. I posted many of these information in the past on here. The Venusians angels have been flying space crafts from one galaxy to the next fro billions of years. There are millions intelligence beings species have done the same traveling by using their space craft during the Dinasauors area. The DIA U.S. government is studying the space craft for 50 yrs. I posted this information in the past. Nathan, -you are talking about the Erich von Daniken's "Chariots of the Gods, " a series of books which tried to claim that Ezekiel's vision of "Chariots of fire or the wheel within the wheel," were "space crafts" of aliens!
They are interesting to read but they can't and don't prove the bible to be true. It is just one more attempt by a series of different authors trying to claim that the bible is accurate.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Jun 29, 2021 15:27:38 GMT -5
Nathan, -you are talking about the Erich von Daniken's "Chariots of the Gods, " a series of books which tried to claim that Ezekiel's vision of "Chariots of fire or the wheel within the wheel," were "space crafts" of aliens!
They are interesting to read but they can't and don't prove the bible to be true. It is just one more attempt by a series of different authors trying to claim that the bible is accurate.
They do this with only a wild surmise as evidence. How laughable. If people want respect and do not want to be ridiculed then they ought not to present ridiculous notions. Nodding wisely and seeming to agree with them whilst paying for the gas only feeds the ego and emboldens the idiocy. Better to be honest and tell them the truth about themselves.
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Post by nathan02 on Jun 29, 2021 15:30:57 GMT -5
Nathan, -you are talking about the Erich von Daniken's "Chariots of the Gods, " a series of books which tried to claim that Ezekiel's vision of "Chariots of fire or the wheel within the wheel," were "space crafts" of aliens!
They are interesting to read but they can't and don't prove the bible to be true. It is just one more attempt by a series of different authors trying to claim that the bible is accurate.
** Erick is correct in his understanding about space crafts in the Old Testament During Ezekiel days! I showed the readers that the Venusians beings from morning and evening Star= Venus planet had space crafts that destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah cities with laser weapons according to Dead Sea Scrolls.
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Post by mrdobalina on Jun 29, 2021 15:47:05 GMT -5
Yes. Please don't do it any more. BTW, it's not information. It's opinion. ** The document comes from DIA U.S. government. When I get home I will post it for the new readers to take a closer look. So, they know it's NOT my opinion, Fixit. OK then, let's call it your belief. I have posted up my beliefs here & it has been you specifically that has set them to nought because they don't align with your belief system. How about you accept that we all have different belief systems & while nobody is preventing you from indulging in yours, it would be nice not to have Mr Strange's beliefs rammed down our throats constantly.
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Post by nathan02 on Jun 29, 2021 15:57:58 GMT -5
** The document comes from DIA U.S. government. When I get home I will post it for the new readers to take a closer look. So, they know it's NOT my opinion, Fixit. OK then, let's call it your belief. I have posted up my beliefs here & it has been you specifically that has set them to nought because they don't align with your belief system. How about you accept that we all have different belief systems & while nobody is preventing you from indulging in yours, it would be nice not to have Mr Strange's beliefs rammed down our throats constantly. ** There are many sources I have shown NOT just Frank Stranges, he is one of many. Frank has one of the most interesting information on Christ, the Venusians who we call angels. The home they came from the morning and evening Star = planet of Venus.
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Post by mrdobalina on Jun 29, 2021 16:03:20 GMT -5
OK then, let's call it your belief. I have posted up my beliefs here & it has been you specifically that has set them to nought because they don't align with your belief system. How about you accept that we all have different belief systems & while nobody is preventing you from indulging in yours, it would be nice not to have Mr Strange's beliefs rammed down our throats constantly. ** There are many sources I have shown NOT just Frank Stranges, he is one of many. Frank has one of the most interesting information on Christ, the Venusians who we call angels. The home they came from the morning and evening Star = planet of Venus. Cool, and you want me to believe that. I told you that God sent me to this forum to calm you down & get you outside for a bit of fresh air & family time, are you going to believe that, because it's true. If you believed where I was sent from, you wouldn't be wasting any further time doing it.
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Post by nathan02 on Jun 29, 2021 16:33:26 GMT -5
** There are many sources I have shown NOT just Frank Stranges, he is one of many. Frank has one of the most interesting information on Christ, the Venusians who we call angels. The home they came from the morning and evening Star = planet of Venus. Cool, and you want me to believe that. I told you that God sent me to this forum to calm you down & get you outside for a bit of fresh air & family time, are you going to believe that, because it's true. If you believed where I was sent from, you wouldn't be wasting any further time doing it. *** And I told you I believe you are full of baloney. I wish you go back to where you come from/hell because you can't get rid of me that easy, You are wasting your time.
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Post by dmmichgood on Jun 29, 2021 16:33:37 GMT -5
Nathan, -you are talking about the Erich von Daniken's "Chariots of the Gods, " a series of books which tried to claim that Ezekiel's vision of "Chariots of fire or the wheel within the wheel," were "space crafts" of aliens!
They are interesting to read but they can't and don't prove the bible to be true. It is just one more attempt by a series of different authors trying to claim that the bible is accurate.
** Erick is correct in his understanding about space crafts in the Old Testament During Ezekiel days! I showed the readers that the Venusians beings from morning and evening Star= Venus planet had space crafts that destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah cities with laser weapons according to Dead Sea Scrolls. No, he wasn't Nathan! Erich von Daniken was no more "correct" than Immanuel Velikovsky was, -who also wrote a series of books which were believed by people who HAVE to believe that the BIBLE is completely accurate, -otherwise their whole belief system of the world & their lives will fall appart!
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Post by mrdobalina on Jun 29, 2021 16:37:27 GMT -5
Cool, and you want me to believe that. I told you that God sent me to this forum to calm you down & get you outside for a bit of fresh air & family time, are you going to believe that, because it's true. If you believed where I was sent from, you wouldn't be wasting any further time doing it. *** And I told you I believe you are full of baloney. I wish you go back to where you come from because you can't get rid of me that easy. OK, well im telling you that you are full of baloney, I guess you are OK with that.
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Post by nathan02 on Jun 29, 2021 16:38:50 GMT -5
** Erick is correct in his understanding about space crafts in the Old Testament During Ezekiel days! I showed the readers that the Venusians beings from morning and evening Star= Venus planet had space crafts that destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah cities with laser weapons according to Dead Sea Scrolls. No, he wasn't Nathan! Erich von Daniken was no more "correct" than Immanuel Velikovsky was, -who also wrote a series of books which were believed by people who HAVE to believe that the BIBLE is completely accurate, -otherwise their whole belief system of the world & their lives will fall appart!
** I have listened to Erick's presentation video and he is very good and is correct.
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Post by nathan02 on Jun 29, 2021 16:41:05 GMT -5
*** And I told you I believe you are full of baloney. I wish you go back to where you come from because you can't get rid of me that easy. OK, well im telling you that you are full of baloney, I guess you are OK with that. ** Keep on posting and the readers will see and know who is full of baloney! You are no match for me, Pack your bag and be gone. You are wasting my time, mate.
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Post by mrdobalina on Jun 29, 2021 17:05:12 GMT -5
OK, well im telling you that you are full of baloney, I guess you are OK with that. ** Keep on posting and the readers will see and know who is full of baloney! You are no match for me, Pack your bag and be gone. You are wasting my time, mate. That's a fantastic double standard, and unbridled intolerance you are demonstrating there. Your attitude amply demonstrates the story of your life.
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Post by Annan on Jun 29, 2021 17:17:26 GMT -5
OK, well im telling you that you are full of baloney, I guess you are OK with that. ** Keep on posting and the readers will see and know who is full of baloney! You are no match for me, Pack your bag and be gone. You are wasting my time, mate. You are always saying let the readers decide, Nate. The readers do know who is full of baloney. I dare you to make a poll, Nate. Or are you chicken?
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Post by Pragmatic on Jun 29, 2021 17:34:31 GMT -5
No, he wasn't Nathan! Erich von Daniken was no more "correct" than Immanuel Velikovsky was, -who also wrote a series of books which were believed by people who HAVE to believe that the BIBLE is completely accurate, -otherwise their whole belief system of the world & their lives will fall appart!
** I have listened to Erick's presentation video and he is very good and is correct. No, you can't say that, as you don't know. All you can do is make a judgement call on how it aligns with your beliefs, and other stuff you feed on.
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Post by nathan02 on Jun 29, 2021 17:50:53 GMT -5
** Keep on posting and the readers will see and know who is full of baloney! You are no match for me, Pack your bag and be gone. You are wasting my time, mate. You are always saying let the readers decide, Nate. The readers do know who is full of baloney. I dare you to make a poll, Nate. Or are you chicken? ** Look what happened to Curly's poll Does Jesus live inside Venus planet. It can be manipulated by cheaters registered 50 accounts vote "Yes" then at the end take back the yes and replaced with "NO". They ruined the poll on TMB, it can't be trusted.
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Post by fixit on Jun 29, 2021 18:01:55 GMT -5
OK, well im telling you that you are full of baloney, I guess you are OK with that. ** Keep on posting and the readers will see and know who is full of baloney! You are no match for me, Pack your bag and be gone. You are wasting my time, mate. You have wasted way too much of the time of all of us. Pack your bags and go join a science fiction forum, or... better still.......spend time with your family and get out into nature.
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Post by Pragmatic on Jun 29, 2021 18:10:11 GMT -5
You are always saying let the readers decide, Nate. The readers do know who is full of baloney. I dare you to make a poll, Nate. Or are you chicken? ** Look what happened to Curly's poll Does Jesus live inside Venus planet. It can be manipulated by cheaters registered 50 accounts vote "Yes" then at the end take back the yes and replaced with "NO". They ruined the poll on TMB, it can't be trusted. If your claim that Curly manipulated the Poll is true, then surely you could do the same? Or if there were "cheaters" on here, they had "decided" in your favour, they would also do the same. I can't see how the readers could not decide, either way.
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Post by nathan02 on Jun 29, 2021 18:33:53 GMT -5
** Keep on posting and the readers will see and know who is full of baloney! You are no match for me, Pack your bag and be gone. You are wasting my time, mate. You have wasted way too much of the time of all of us. Pack your bags and go join a science fiction forum, or... better still.......spend time with your family and get out into nature. haha.. You TMB are my 2nd family mixed with the good, the bad and the ugly. I can't pack my bags and leave right now but one of these days WALLY and I must go to our home in heaven. Then you can pick on your NEXT victim, ok.
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Post by openingact34 on Jun 29, 2021 18:34:31 GMT -5
The Bible gospel is 2000 years old it's behind the time and the workers are preaching and teaching 2000 old New Testament of Jesus Christ ministry and fellowship... That is good but you want to update the listeners to 21st century gospel ministry and fellowship and beyond. The Old testament talks Chariots of fire or the wheel within the wheel= space crafts Some of the Old testament prophets like Ezekiel entered these crafts and so did Jesus according to DSS. it was NOT a star that guided the wise men to find the child Jesus but a UFO that guide them at night. A star is fixed or stationary and it can't move east to west or South to north but a UFO can move all kinds of direction it has lights at night to guide them. I posted many of these information in the past on here. The Venusians angels have been flying space crafts from one galaxy to the next fro billions of years. There are millions intelligence beings species have done the same traveling by using their space craft during the Dinasauors area. The DIA U.S. government is studying the space craft for 50 yrs. I posted this information in the past. That's a pretty far fetched theory. But I will grant you that it is still FAR more believable than the insanity in the Bible like Noah and the ark. Your crazy stories are much more credible than those of the the Evangelical Christians who make up a quarter of my country, and that is not a good thing
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Post by nathan02 on Jun 29, 2021 19:00:20 GMT -5
That's a pretty far fetched theory. But I will grant you that it is still FAR more believable than the insanity in the Bible like Noah and the ark. Your crazy stories are much more credible than those of the the Evangelical Christians who make up a quarter of my country, and that is not a good thing *** No, it's NOT far fetch at all mankind just learn how to travel in space since 1940s. These Venusians beings from the planet Venus and millions intelligence species in the Universe have traveled with their space ships to trillions galaxies for billions of years!
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Post by nathan02 on Jun 29, 2021 20:17:20 GMT -5
** Look what happened to Curly's poll Does Jesus live inside Venus planet. It can be manipulated by cheaters registered 50 accounts vote "Yes" then at the end take back the yes and replaced with "NO". They ruined the poll on TMB, it can't be trusted. If your claim that Curly manipulated the Poll is true, then surely you could do the same? Or if there were "cheaters" on here, they had "decided" in your favour, they would also do the same. I can't see how the readers could not decide, either way. *** Why, would I created 50 accounts to go in my favors to YES then at the end changed to "NO" in to show favor. Do you think I am that Stupid? to let Curly the cheater win. Hell, NO !
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Post by mrdobalina on Jun 29, 2021 20:50:31 GMT -5
** Look what happened to Curly's poll Does Jesus live inside Venus planet. It can be manipulated by cheaters registered 50 accounts vote "Yes" then at the end take back the yes and replaced with "NO". They ruined the poll on TMB, it can't be trusted. You really cant cope with the thought that you may simply be a loser. You have found something and someone to blame for it. And there will be absolutely no convincing you otherwise. These are classic symptoms of narcissistic personality disorder.
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Post by nathan on Jun 29, 2021 20:59:18 GMT -5
Do you think in Cave 3 has only 3 scrolls? I have read and studied many of Frank's Scrolls and they are good. You think they are good because they support your 21st century gospel. Yep, and many other sources to back me up.
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Post by nathan on Jun 29, 2021 21:01:24 GMT -5
Nathan is not a Christian, because he believes God and Jesus live inside Venus and angels fly in and out on spaceships. Realistically, most Christians would consider your opposition to the trinity to be a much bigger blasphemy than Nathan's claims about Jesus's space station in hollow Venus. For most of modern history, it would have been the difference between being burned at the stake vs being flogged or tortured with hot irons. Even today, I suspect the exes and TLC crowd would have to admit that you are less Christian in doctrine. If you don't believe Jesus is God you go straight to hell per God's loving followers. Adding a few spaceships and six-fingered aliens into the gospel isn't a serious doctrinal issue by comparison. Amen, to that.... To teach and believe the Trinity is the devils doctrine! That is Blasphemy. I wonder how God the Father, Christ the Lord God Jesus, and Holy Spirit/God feel about people like fixit, said they are of the devils.
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Post by nathan on Jun 29, 2021 21:06:10 GMT -5
That's a pretty far fetched theory. But I will grant you that it is still FAR more believable than the insanity in the Bible like Noah and the ark. Your crazy stories are much more credible than those of the the Evangelical Christians who make up a quarter of my country, and that is not a good thing Like I said it's NOT a far fetch or a theory at all. This information is from the Defense Intelligence Agency USG top secrets dealing with ETs and UFOs.
Release 30 ANCIENT ASTRONAUTS Crash Land During The DINOSAUR ERA of Earth's Distant Past! (1 July 2008) WORLDWIDE BOMBSHELL EXCLUSIVE ... YOU READ IT HERE FIRST! ANONYMOUS provides details on one of the MOST HIGHLY CLASSIFIED PROJECTS OF ALL TIME: "Operation XXXXX XXXXX": The RECOVERY OF AN ALIEN SPACECRAFT WHICH CRASH LANDED ON EARTH DURING THE DINOSAUR ERA ... SHOCKING … POSITIVELY AMAZING ... BEYOND ALL DISCLOSURE EXPECTATIONS ... LIKE A FIERY BOLT OF AN INCOMING KILLER ASTEROID FROM OUT-OF-THE-BLUE! ... U-N-B-E-L-I-E-V-A-B-L-E ... BUT 100% TRUE ... A MIND-NUMBING, RIVETING, BREATHTAKING READ! VICTOR: "Operation XXXXX XXXXX": A highly classified, sensitive operation with far-reaching national security implications that took place in 1968. A XXXXX archaeological team uncovered a large metallic object in a remote area of southern XXXXX which is a close NATO ally of ours. The object was believed to be an ALIEN SPACECRAFT that had crashed approximately 200 million years ago [200 MYA] according to the archaeological team.The site subsequently was examined by a USAF Recovery Team, which then put the age of the ALIEN CRAFT at approximately 150 million years ago [150 MYA]. I don't think anyone can give an actual age of the site, but it was somewhere between 150 and 200 MYA, based on the location of where it was found. Our scientists used the ABSOLUTE DATING METHOD employing decaying radioactive isotopes. Sedimentary rock formations and the fact that the object was EMBEDDED INTO THE ROCK were used to estimate the age of the ALIEN CRAFT. The ALIEN CRAFT itself was 45 feet in diameter. The craft was transported to the State of XXXXX and then to the giant XXXXX lab complex in XXXXX and opened. The ALIEN CRAFT contained two (2) highly decomposed ALIEN BODIES and DECAYED ANIMALS, which were apparently abducted by these ALIEN BEINGS. The animals were small DINOSAURS on board the ALIEN CRAFT.The craft was stored at XXXXX and years of intense research were conducted. The last time I checked, the research team ruled OUT the craft being of Eben origin. However, no one could tell where it came from. The ALIEN BODIES were far too decomposed to be thoroughly examined. They were about 5 feet tall and had very large, bulbous heads. To the best of my knowledge, "Operation XXXXX XXXXX" is still an ongoing project. I personally worked on the operation in the early '70s. The instruments from the craft were interesting because they were made of small crystal-like devices, wired together with a form of very fine wire. The ALIEN PROPULSION SYSTEM contained a large chamber with what we called "Rocks" (obviously some form of energy) in the chamber. Large vents placed around the chamber vented some sort of power, radiation or some form of tremendous energy generated through the vents and into the propulsion chamber which enabled interstellar space travel. Examination of the rocks found zinc, and several unknown materials and alloys which we still cannot identify to this day. The "rocks" obviously lost all of their energy over the years. They were NOT radioactive nor did they contain any special properties. We could never power up the ALIEN CRAFT in the nearly 40 years we've had possession of it.
We could NOT locate the actual power system and therefore could never operate any of the equipment contained within the craft. However, we did find a "Star Chart." The chart was created from outside of the Earth on the ALIEN HOME WORLD. To this day, we have been UNable to read and decipher the ALIEN STAR CHART. The star chart was of a deep area of space, but our scientists haven't been able to find that specific area of space. Your analogy of our work on "Operation XXXXX XXXXX" and that of transporting an SR-71 Blackbird back to the year 1200 AD was a good one: If we returned 300 years later to the year 1500 AD, little, if anything, could have been learned by our ancestors as to how the Blackbird worked. In much the same way, the amazing, almost majic-like ALIEN TECHNOLOGY on this craft has similarly stumped us; while some progress HAS been made on it since 1968, it's been MINIMAL (partially due to the poor, degraded condition of the ALIEN CRAFT). Because this is an ongoing USG project, I ask that you place "X's" over the critical names and locations [sent in a subsequent e-mail] though you have the correct information. As a brief aside, you may share the blacked out information with Dr XXXXX X XXXXX whose work on past classified USG projects bestows a certain professional courtesy upon him in that he deserves to know the particulars. Victor, I agree with you that the existence of ALIEN CIVILIZATIONS who had already achieved space traveling capabilities zipping around the Milky Way Galaxy (and perhaps others) truly BOGGLES THE MIND. As you wrote me, the Ebens were perhaps still in their "galactic diapers" when these ALIEN BEINGS were already visiting other worlds ~150-200 MYA and Homo Sapiens did not even exist!One can only wonder and speculate where a civilization -- that had already achieved interstellar space travel -- would be at TODAY technologically from 150-200 MYA! How many star systems have they visited by now? How many other alien civilizations have they made successful contact and interacted with, and perhaps carry on some sort of trade with? How many solar systems have they visited and mapped out in our Milky Way Galaxy and perhaps those of OTHER galaxies? One also has to consider the POSSIBILITY that rather than this crash having occurred in OUR timeline of 150-200 MYA, these ALIEN BEINGS traveled to Earth from the FUTURE to our distant PAST -- when DINOSAURS ruled -- as part of a research mission ... THAT also BOGGLES the mind!www.serpo.org/release30.php
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Post by Pragmatic on Jun 29, 2021 21:12:31 GMT -5
You have wasted way too much of the time of all of us. Pack your bags and go join a science fiction forum, or... better still.......spend time with your family and get out into nature. haha.. You TMB are my 2nd family mixed with the good, the bad and the ugly. I can't pack my bags and leave right now but one of these days WALLY and I must go to our home in heaven. Then you can pick on your NEXT victim, ok. Again, this also adds weight to another post he made that shows that this guy doesn't have a life, except for what is on here, and how sad is that?
As Fixit says, get out in nature, go hike the Canyon, go fishing, play some music, play some sport, or coach it, or go for a run, daily. Sunlight and the outdoors is a wonderful place for Vitamins and Mental Health.
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Post by chuck on Jun 29, 2021 21:25:54 GMT -5
You have wasted way too much of the time of all of us. Pack your bags and go join a science fiction forum, or... better still.......spend time with your family and get out into nature. haha.. You TMB are my 2nd family mixed with the good, the bad and the ugly. I can't pack my bags and leave right now but one of these days WALLY and I must go to our home in heaven. Then you can pick on your NEXT victim, ok. Your playing God again Nathan...... @wally, are you going to Venus?.
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Post by fixit on Jun 29, 2021 22:19:22 GMT -5
That's a pretty far fetched theory. But I will grant you that it is still FAR more believable than the insanity in the Bible like Noah and the ark. Your crazy stories are much more credible than those of the the Evangelical Christians who make up a quarter of my country, and that is not a good thing Like I said it's NOT a far fetch or a theory at all. This information is from the Defense Intelligence Agency USG top secrets dealing with ETs and UFOs.
Release 30 ANCIENT ASTRONAUTS Crash Land During The DINOSAUR ERA of Earth's Distant Past! (1 July 2008) WORLDWIDE BOMBSHELL EXCLUSIVE ... YOU READ IT HERE FIRST! ANONYMOUS provides details on one of the MOST HIGHLY CLASSIFIED PROJECTS OF ALL TIME: "Operation XXXXX XXXXX": The RECOVERY OF AN ALIEN SPACECRAFT WHICH CRASH LANDED ON EARTH DURING THE DINOSAUR ERA ... SHOCKING … POSITIVELY AMAZING ... BEYOND ALL DISCLOSURE EXPECTATIONS ... LIKE A FIERY BOLT OF AN INCOMING KILLER ASTEROID FROM OUT-OF-THE-BLUE! ... U-N-B-E-L-I-E-V-A-B-L-E ... BUT 100% TRUE ... A MIND-NUMBING, RIVETING, BREATHTAKING READ! <snip> <snip> One also has to consider the POSSIBILITY that rather than this crash having occurred in OUR timeline of 150-200 MYA, these ALIEN BEINGS traveled to Earth from the FUTURE to our distant PAST -- when DINOSAURS ruled -- as part of a research mission ... THAT also BOGGLES the mind!www.serpo.org/release30.phpNate, are you really this gullible? The introduction to the website doesn't fill me with confidence... The purpose of this siteThis site is not authored by anyone with direct access to confidential information. Rather, its purpose is to present to the public information that has been released, and to examine that information in a clear, balanced and intelligent light. The background of the informationThe information began to be released on 2 November 2005 by a retired senior official within the US Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) who calls himself "Anonymous". Until he chooses to make his name known, this is the way he will be represented here. Anonymous reports that he is not acting individually and is part of a group of six DIA personnel working together as an alliance: three current and three former employees. He is their chief spokesman.
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