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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2021 16:44:18 GMT -5
I just remembered it is Sunday where the TMB Workers incognito live, so they can really let rip today. At least we might get some peace for the rest of the week. It is Manic Monday here, not that it affects us now.
Can't understand why people have forgotten the Science they learnt at School. If they used a bit of that they would not try to make reality from storytelling. The Bible is a book of fictional stories, not used as a credible reference, only in Theology. Academic journal articles are probably the most reliable source of current thinking in your field. To be the most reliable they need to be peer reviewed. This means that other academics have read them before publication and checked that they are making claims that are backed up by their evidence. The Bible has never been peer reviewed, and can't be because it is fiction.
Bit like a long time ago I would see a pretty Woman and would be guilty of having mental ones. Not possible to make it reality, only to be enjoyed as a mental situation. Of course that does not happen to me now, the very thought is too exhausting and other forces have taken over. So why don't people allow the forces of Science to show them that the beautiful mental pictures can never be reality.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on May 30, 2021 16:47:36 GMT -5
I see. So since homo sapiens came from the big bang millions of years later, why didn't the big bang blow the apes and Venus all to hell? You're a goofy bladdermouth. ** God and Christ created the Universe first in 6 days or Order/Stages... The animals on the 5th day and the Homo Sapiens Adamic race on the 6th day. The Big bang is men theory! God created the Universe in 6 different stages or 6 orderso Nothing blow up like men big bang theory! Can you then explain why the universe is expanding?
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Post by mrdobalina on May 30, 2021 16:47:39 GMT -5
downunders probably should avoid forums as they can't seem to handle it all that well... ** Right on! Wally. Hearing/Reading the words and teachings of Jesus make them feel very uncomfortable! The Holy Spirit is convicting their hearts and they feel guilty in their hearts. They want to lash out their anger at us/believers. The only thing worse than a bul$hitter is someone the believes their own bull$hit. There's that narcissistic personality disorder kicking in again. The only part about the word of jesus that ever caused me any discomfort was the solid wooden chair I was made to sit on for hours at a time while being force fed your very special brand of bull$hit. Face it, some of us simply don't have as vivid imagination as you do.
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Post by chuck on May 30, 2021 16:51:01 GMT -5
There was no ark to see. It was a embellished story, this is normal for ancient Hebrew culture to use stories to carry meaning. And scripture doesn’t support blind faith. Chuck, you think God lied to Enoch and Noah to built the Ark? Are you saying there was no REAL Noah's Ark sitting on Mt. Ararat? And no world wide flood? Like I said you are a goner! Nathan it's a fact that ancient people told exaggerated stories. Why is that such a scary proposition?. Like wally the language you use around God is "form", what image do you have in your head when God talked to Noah?....
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on May 30, 2021 16:51:10 GMT -5
It is not a choice but a scientific fact through reasearch of fossil records and dna. You can disbelieve that all you like but the evidence is there. I TRUST in God's words over men scientific evidence theories! like we/humans came from the big bang, theory. gods words..... talking donkeys and snakes, sun standing still, virgin births, man walking on water. Pass me a Tui.
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Post by mrdobalina on May 30, 2021 16:52:50 GMT -5
** God and Christ created the Universe first in 6 days or Order/Stages... The animals on the 5th day and the Homo Sapiens Adamic race on the 6th day. The Big bang is men theory! God created the Universe in 6 different stages or 6 orderso Nothing blow up like men big bang theory! Can you then explain why the universe is expanding? Boredom on gods part. Maybe its his hobby.
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Post by Dan on May 30, 2021 16:53:13 GMT -5
Amen. The TMB shows the ex-2x2 atheists lost their faith in God, they need to see with their own eyes to believe in the existence of God these days! So SAD. There was a time in the past they had great faith in God and Christ now they have no Faith in God, period. I am sure I saw a you tube video of flying pigs and there's also a book about flying pigs. I totally believe this. Why would I not believe this?
There's a big difference between cartoons and an expedition with filmed footage of an archeological find.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on May 30, 2021 16:54:43 GMT -5
I am sure I saw a you tube video of flying pigs and there's also a book about flying pigs. I totally believe this. Why would I not believe this?
There's a big difference between cartoons and an expedition with filmed footage of an archeological find.
Which one is the cartoon.
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Post by intelchips on May 30, 2021 16:58:48 GMT -5
It is not a choice but a scientific fact through reasearch of fossil records and dna. You can disbelieve that all you like but the evidence is there. I TRUST in God's words over men scientific evidence theories! like we/humans came from the big bang, theory. I'm sorry Nathan but you really actually hurt my brain: I TRUST in God's words over men [man's] scientific evidence [and]theories! like we/humans came from the big bang, theory.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2021 17:01:36 GMT -5
I see. So since homo sapiens came from the big bang millions of years later, why didn't the big bang blow the apes and Venus all to hell? You're a goofy bladdermouth. ** God and Christ created the Universe first in 6 days or Order/Stages... The animals on the 5th day and the Homo Sapiens Adamic race on the 6th day. The Big bang is men theory! God created the Universe in 6 different stages or 6 orderso Nothing blow up like men big bang theory! Impossible to achieve in 6 days. Try around 13.8 billion years ago, that is more like it. And the process was never completed, still going on. Just like the Berger paint slogan, "Keeps on, keeping on". It never happened that God was buggered on day 7 and took the day off. Tools down, all finished, to the Pub Boys. No Pub break for evolution.
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Post by Dan on May 30, 2021 17:04:07 GMT -5
I just remembered it is Sunday where the TMB Workers incognito live, so they can really let rip today. At least we might get some peace for the rest of the week. It is Manic Monday here, not that it affects us now. Can't understand why people have forgotten the Science they learnt at School. If they used a bit of that they would not try to make reality from storytelling. The Bible is a book of fictional stories, not used as a credible reference, only in Theology. Academic journal articles are probably the most reliable source of current thinking in your field. To be the most reliable they need to be peer reviewed. This means that other academics have read them before publication and checked that they are making claims that are backed up by their evidence. The Bible has never been peer reviewed, and can't be because it is fiction.Bit like a long time ago I would see a pretty Woman and would be guilty of having mental ones. Not possible to make it reality, only to be enjoyed as a mental situation. Of course that does not happen to me now, the very thought is too exhausting and other forces have taken over. So why don't people allow the forces of Science to show them that the beautiful mental pictures can never be reality.
How do you 'peer review' God... He has no peers!
Lets face it, when it comes to a supernatural creative Being, science can only draw one conclusion;
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2021 17:07:31 GMT -5
The Bible was written by Humans. Anything written by Humans can be reviewed by Humans.
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Post by mrdobalina on May 30, 2021 17:20:44 GMT -5
I am sure I saw a you tube video of flying pigs and there's also a book about flying pigs. I totally believe this. Why would I not believe this?
There's a big difference between cartoons and an expedition with filmed footage of an archeological find.
Speaking of cartoons, depictions of Jesus show him as a tall long haired white man, have a think about where he came from, and the likleyhood of that being the case. Also consider the names of the 12 disciples, and how likely it would be to find even one person with a name from half a world away even now, let alone 12 of them 2000 years ago.
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Post by intelchips on May 30, 2021 17:36:53 GMT -5
There's a big difference between cartoons and an expedition with filmed footage of an archeological find.
Speaking of cartoons, depictions of Jesus show him as a tall long haired white man, have a think about where he came from, and the likleyhood of that being the case. Also consider the names of the 12 disciples, and how likely it would be to find even one person with a name from half a world away even now, let alone 12 of them 2000 years ago. I disagree, I'm sure (to a degree) Jesus was a dark skinned Alp. Alp is a masculine Turkish name. In Turkish, "Alp" means "hero" and it has been used as a title, a given name, and a surname.
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Post by dmmichgood on May 30, 2021 18:04:47 GMT -5
** Right on! Wally. Hearing/Reading the words and teachings of Jesus make them feel very uncomfortable! The Holy Spirit is convicting their hearts and they feel guilty in their hearts. They want to lash out their anger at us/believers. The only thing worse than a bul$hitter is someone the believes their own bull$hit. There's that narcissistic personality disorder kicking in again. The only part about the word of jesus that ever caused me any discomfort was the solid wooden chair I was made to sit on for hours at a time while being force fed your very special brand of bull$hit. Face it, some of us simply don't have as vivid imagination as you do. You are probably too young to remember those long benches that were two linear wooden bars with canvas slung between them (made that way so they could be folded when stored)
It seemed like the canvas was NEVER wide enough to really fit one's butt properly, -so you ended up setting on those two hard boards! -one on under your tail bone and the other under you legs!
When you started to get up you found your legs had went to numb.
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Post by dmmichgood on May 30, 2021 18:22:40 GMT -5
I see. So since homo sapiens came from the big bang millions of years later, why didn't the big bang blow the apes and Venus all to hell? You're a goofy bladdermouth. ** God and Christ created the Universe first in 6 days or Order/Stages... The animals on the 5th day and the Homo Sapiens Adamic race on the 6th day. The Big bang is men theory! God created the Universe in 6 different stages or 6 orderso Nothing blow up like men big bang theory! Nathan, Can you tell us what the Big Bang theory was about? (hint: it had nothing to do with where we/humans came from)
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2021 19:07:18 GMT -5
We just had a solid plank about 12 inches wide. No canvas to drop the cheeks into. I can tell you after 2 hours you sure had a numb bum. But of course it could be justified, we were supposed to suffer for Christ's sake, so we were told.
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Post by intelchips on May 30, 2021 19:25:36 GMT -5
I just remembered it is Sunday where the TMB Workers incognito live, so they can really let rip today. At least we might get some peace for the rest of the week. It is Manic Monday here, not that it affects us now. Can't understand why people have forgotten the Science they learnt at School. If they used a bit of that they would not try to make reality from storytelling. The Bible is a book of fictional stories, not used as a credible reference, only in Theology. Academic journal articles are probably the most reliable source of current thinking in your field. To be the most reliable they need to be peer reviewed. This means that other academics have read them before publication and checked that they are making claims that are backed up by their evidence. The Bible has never been peer reviewed, and can't be because it is fiction. Bit like a long time ago I would see a pretty Woman and would be guilty of having mental ones. Not possible to make it reality, only to be enjoyed as a mental situation. Of course that does not happen to me now, the very thought is too exhausting and other forces have taken over. So why don't people allow the forces of Science to show them that the beautiful mental pictures can never be reality. This Sunday meeting was much different. 1st no masks for the first time. Second numbers. I have never seen so many folks at this meeting before. Since I'm an outsider I'm not sure why more people then I have ever seen at this meeting over the years.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on May 30, 2021 19:34:33 GMT -5
I just remembered it is Sunday where the TMB Workers incognito live, so they can really let rip today. At least we might get some peace for the rest of the week. It is Manic Monday here, not that it affects us now. Can't understand why people have forgotten the Science they learnt at School. If they used a bit of that they would not try to make reality from storytelling. The Bible is a book of fictional stories, not used as a credible reference, only in Theology. Academic journal articles are probably the most reliable source of current thinking in your field. To be the most reliable they need to be peer reviewed. This means that other academics have read them before publication and checked that they are making claims that are backed up by their evidence. The Bible has never been peer reviewed, and can't be because it is fiction. Bit like a long time ago I would see a pretty Woman and would be guilty of having mental ones. Not possible to make it reality, only to be enjoyed as a mental situation. Of course that does not happen to me now, the very thought is too exhausting and other forces have taken over. So why don't people allow the forces of Science to show them that the beautiful mental pictures can never be reality. This Sunday meeting was much different. 1st no masks for the first time. Second numbers. I have never seen so many folks at this meeting before. Since I'm an outsider I'm not sure why more people then I have ever seen at this meeting over the years. I went to my usual Sunday School at my local RSA. It was very quiet due to severe flooding and 300 to 400 mm of rain. There were still a few faithful tho. Good to see such hearty people not let a little adversity get in the way of attending Sunday School.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2021 20:04:13 GMT -5
I just remembered it is Sunday where the TMB Workers incognito live, so they can really let rip today. At least we might get some peace for the rest of the week. It is Manic Monday here, not that it affects us now. Can't understand why people have forgotten the Science they learnt at School. If they used a bit of that they would not try to make reality from storytelling. The Bible is a book of fictional stories, not used as a credible reference, only in Theology. Academic journal articles are probably the most reliable source of current thinking in your field. To be the most reliable they need to be peer reviewed. This means that other academics have read them before publication and checked that they are making claims that are backed up by their evidence. The Bible has never been peer reviewed, and can't be because it is fiction. Bit like a long time ago I would see a pretty Woman and would be guilty of having mental ones. Not possible to make it reality, only to be enjoyed as a mental situation. Of course that does not happen to me now, the very thought is too exhausting and other forces have taken over. So why don't people allow the forces of Science to show them that the beautiful mental pictures can never be reality. Mat_11:25 At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes. Luk_10:21 In that hour Jesus rejoiced in spirit, and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes: even so, Father; for so it seemed good in thy sight. 1Co_1:19 For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on May 30, 2021 20:10:37 GMT -5
I just remembered it is Sunday where the TMB Workers incognito live, so they can really let rip today. At least we might get some peace for the rest of the week. It is Manic Monday here, not that it affects us now. Can't understand why people have forgotten the Science they learnt at School. If they used a bit of that they would not try to make reality from storytelling. The Bible is a book of fictional stories, not used as a credible reference, only in Theology. Academic journal articles are probably the most reliable source of current thinking in your field. To be the most reliable they need to be peer reviewed. This means that other academics have read them before publication and checked that they are making claims that are backed up by their evidence. The Bible has never been peer reviewed, and can't be because it is fiction. Bit like a long time ago I would see a pretty Woman and would be guilty of having mental ones. Not possible to make it reality, only to be enjoyed as a mental situation. Of course that does not happen to me now, the very thought is too exhausting and other forces have taken over. So why don't people allow the forces of Science to show them that the beautiful mental pictures can never be reality. Mat_11:25 At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes. Luk_10:21 In that hour Jesus rejoiced in spirit, and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes: even so, Father; for so it seemed good in thy sight. 1Co_1:19 For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent. It was quite clever of the early christian church people to write such verses into their mythology. The gullible like yourself are still believing them. It certainly discourages dissent if you are gullible enough to believe that homo sapiens are diffferent from every other animal and are somehow going to live forever after death. By the way, you don't get your money back, nor your wasted life.
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Post by nathan02 on May 30, 2021 20:42:54 GMT -5
** God and Christ created the Universe first in 6 days or Order/Stages... The animals on the 5th day and the Homo Sapiens Adamic race on the 6th day. The Big bang is men theory! God created the Universe in 6 different stages or 6 orderso Nothing blow up like men big bang theory! Can you then explain why the universe is expanding? God has made that way! Just like life or our souls goes on After death, it doesn't end at the grave.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on May 30, 2021 20:44:51 GMT -5
Can you then explain why the universe is expanding? God has made that way! Just like life or our souls goes on After death, it doesn't end at the grave. Really, so if we wind back the expansion, what point do we arrive at?
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Post by nathan02 on May 30, 2021 21:07:58 GMT -5
God has made that way! Just like life or our souls goes on After death, it doesn't end at the grave. Really, so if we wind back the expansion, what point do we arrive at? One of these days when Christ/God has defeat Satan and gathered A BIG family from TRILLIONS Intelligence beings in the Universe, He will destroy the old heaven and earth and start/Create the New heaven and new earth/Universe where His people live together in harmony and love.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on May 30, 2021 21:18:18 GMT -5
Really, so if we wind back the expansion, what point do we arrive at? One of these days when Christ/God has defeat Satan and gathered A BIG family from TRILLIONS Intelligence beings in the Universe, He will destroy the old heaven and earth and start/Create the New heaven and new earth/Universe where His people live together in harmony and love. That answer does not answer the question I asked of you, Can you even answer it honestly? Once again. If we wind back the expansion, what point do we arrive at?
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2021 21:26:48 GMT -5
They won't answer questions, don't know how. They will just throw a few more verses of scripture at you that were written thousands of years ago, when people knew nothing else, using fictitious imagination.
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Post by nathan02 on May 30, 2021 21:33:51 GMT -5
One of these days when Christ/God has defeat Satan and gathered A BIG family from TRILLIONS Intelligence beings in the Universe, He will destroy the old heaven and earth and start/Create the New heaven and new earth/Universe where His people live together in harmony and love. That answer does not answer the question I asked of you, Can you even answer it honestly? Once again. If we wind back the expansion, what point do we arrive at? ** There is NO going BACK! It's only going forward, Once God has created a soul it goes on forever and it will NEVER DIE. Jesus gives us the understanding and REVELATION the mystery of ETERNAL life through believing in God/Christ and Death forever to those who rejected Him as their Savior Luke 16.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2021 21:39:17 GMT -5
They won't answer questions, don't know how. They will just throw a few more verses of scripture at you that were written thousands of years ago, when people knew nothing else, using fictitious imagination. just because you can't understand an answer doesn't mean it wasn't given...
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