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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2021 6:57:30 GMT -5
DISCLAIMER: TMB is administered by a small admin team, some professing. The opinions of many who post on the board are not reflective of the admin team. It is our belief that many issues in the fellowship meetings result from the lack of sound biblical teaching that has caused many readers to move away from the only foundation in Christ. New readers should not be surprised or discouraged by the tone of non-believers on the board, who are as welcome as any to post. New readers are warmly invited to reach out to the admin in confidence, we are always willing to answer any questions / provide support and encouragement, etc.
I am starting to doubt if the the above statement has relevance. Non 2x2's who post their thoughts are subjected to insults and vitriol. The original meaning of their post is changed to fit the 2x2 way of thinking. I do not appreciate being called a liar and that I will burn in Hell. No Human has the right to say that anybody will burn in Hell. If their is a Judge it won't be them, it is not their right to pre-empt that situation if it does exist.I find that behaviour abhorrent.
It could be that a forum with believers and non-believers will never work. I wish it would, I think it provides a bridge between people with different beliefs. You don't force your belief on others, you share it with them. Free expression must be possible. If that is not the situation then we should fold up now, and stop the nastiness that is taking place at the moment. That brings TMB into disrepute.
I think the situation needs to be addressed and clarified. If it be that non-believers are not welcome I will gracefully exit. But I feel strongly that the nastiness should cease. Look forward to what others think.
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Post by Annan on May 28, 2021 9:53:40 GMT -5
What I find interesting is that when Nathan disappears now and then, the board is respectful and quiet. For the most part. We still have Wally's ugliness to deal with.
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Post by openingact34 on May 28, 2021 9:54:49 GMT -5
To paraphrase Captain Willard slightly:
Rebuking Christians for telling people that they are hell-bound is like handing out speeding tickets at the Indy 500.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2021 12:53:00 GMT -5
DISCLAIMER: TMB is administered by a small admin team, some professing. The opinions of many who post on the board are not reflective of the admin team. It is our belief that many issues in the fellowship meetings result from the lack of sound biblical teaching that has caused many readers to move away from the only foundation in Christ. New readers should not be surprised or discouraged by the tone of non-believers on the board, who are as welcome as any to post. New readers are warmly invited to reach out to the admin in confidence, we are always willing to answer any questions / provide support and encouragement, etc. I am starting to doubt if the the above statement has relevance. Non 2x2's who post their thoughts are subjected to insults and vitriol. The original meaning of their post is changed to fit the 2x2 way of thinking. I do not appreciate being called a liar and that I will burn in Hell. No Human has the right to say that anybody will burn in Hell. If their is a Judge it won't be them, it is not their right to pre-empt that situation if it does exist.I find that behaviour abhorrent. It could be that a forum with believers and non-believers will never work. I wish it would, I think it provides a bridge between people with different beliefs. You don't force your belief on others, you share it with them. Free expression must be possible. If that is not the situation then we should fold up now, and stop the nastiness that is taking place at the moment. That brings TMB into disrepute. I think the situation needs to be addressed and clarified. If it be that non-believers are not welcome I will gracefully exit. But I feel strongly that the nastiness should cease. Look forward to what others think. it appears you don't know how forums work. this is how it goes: you post something then you receive either POSITIVE or NEGATIVE Feedback. no one here is stopping you from posting BUT, you don't want feedback to happen don't post. you atheists are just as guilty of negativity on here as believers are.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2021 12:53:41 GMT -5
What I find interesting is that when Nathan disappears now and then, the board is respectful and quiet. For the most part. We still have Wally's ugliness to deal with. right back at you witch...
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2021 12:54:27 GMT -5
No Human has the right to tell another person they are going to Hell. It is unconscionable. They are not God, they should not pretend to be.
Verbal abuse is a crime and also unconscionable. Nobody should have to put up with that for stating their point of view on a forum that is supposed to be open to everybody no matter what their religious or non-religious persuasion is.
We should all try to make the forum work the way it is supposed to. Nobody should try to dominate, it should be free expression without abuse or vitriol.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2021 12:59:43 GMT -5
POSITIVE or NEGATIVE Feedback is fine, you expect that. Abuse and vitriol is not, you do not deserve that, it should not happen. We need to clean up our act.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2021 13:01:30 GMT -5
No Human has the right to tell another person they are going to Hell. It is unconscionable. They are not God, they should not pretend to be. Verbal abuse is a crime and also unconscionable. Nobody should have to put up with that for stating their point of view on a forum that is supposed to be open to everybody no matter what their religious or non-religious persuasion is. We should all try to make the forum work the way it is supposed to. Nobody should try to dominate, it should be free expression without abuse or vitriol. its called being a watchman on the wall. you know this. there are only 2 destinations in the Christian world we can't talk about one without talking about the other...
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Post by nathan02 on May 28, 2021 14:00:28 GMT -5
What I find interesting is that when Nathan disappears now and then, the board is respectful and quiet. For the most part. We still have Wally's ugliness to deal with. *** Without Wally and me the TMB is very quite or dead... Then the atheists, the Witch take over the board and they turn into the most boring board with NOTHING worth while to discuss about. I didn't post for 3 weeks during the day and the board was quite dead. It was wally and a few others keep it going. Well, the atheists believe the humans come from the apes or out of nothing= the big bang theory.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2021 14:08:57 GMT -5
So let me try to understand this. The Watchmen is the Arbitrator on TMB and has the right to use a verbal gun or sword against any comment made that he does not agree with. IMO Abuse and vitriol is a verbal gun. In Australia Governments are very active in trying to stop this behaviour.
In the TMB disclaimer it does not mention anything about a self appointed Watchmen. I believe it presents the opposite. "The opinions of many who post on the board are not reflective of the admin team. It is our belief that many issues in the fellowship meetings result from the lack of sound biblical teaching that has caused many readers to move away from the only foundation in Christ. New readers should not be surprised or discouraged by the tone of non-believers on the board, who are as welcome as any to post".
Nothing about the powers of a Watchman. Small point, Watchmen should be changed to Watchperson in keeping with life now.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2021 14:16:53 GMT -5
So let me try to understand this. The Watchmen is the Arbitrator on TMB and has the right to use a verbal gun or sword against any comment made that he does not agree with. IMO Abuse and vitriol is a verbal gun. In Australia Governments are very active in trying to stop this behaviour. In the TMB disclaimer it does not mention anything about a self appointed Watchmen. I believe it presents the opposite. "The opinions of many who post on the board are not reflective of the admin team. It is our belief that many issues in the fellowship meetings result from the lack of sound biblical teaching that has caused many readers to move away from the only foundation in Christ. New readers should not be surprised or discouraged by the tone of non-believers on the board, who are as welcome as any to post". Nothing about the powers of a Watchman. Small point, Watchmen should be changed to Watchperson in keeping with life now. welcome to the land of free speech(so far)... no one said watchman are in charge of anything their duty is to warn regardless of who is in charge... your attempt at a graphic narrative is fairly transparent... vitriol indeed... good try though
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Post by dmmichgood on May 28, 2021 14:25:03 GMT -5
DISCLAIMER: TMB is administered by a small admin team, some professing. The opinions of many who post on the board are not reflective of the admin team. It is our belief that many issues in the fellowship meetings result from the lack of sound biblical teaching that has caused many readers to move away from the only foundation in Christ. New readers should not be surprised or discouraged by the tone of non-believers on the board, who are as welcome as any to post. New readers are warmly invited to reach out to the admin in confidence, we are always willing to answer any questions / provide support and encouragement, etc. I am starting to doubt if the the above statement has relevance. Non 2x2's who post their thoughts are subjected to insults and vitriol. The original meaning of their post is changed to fit the 2x2 way of thinking. I do not appreciate being called a liar and that I will burn in Hell. No Human has the right to say that anybody will burn in Hell. If their is a Judge it won't be them, it is not their right to pre-empt that situation if it does exist.I find that behaviour abhorrent. It could be that a forum with believers and non-believers will never work. I wish it would, I think it provides a bridge between people with different beliefs. You don't force your belief on others, you share it with them. Free expression must be possible. If that is not the situation then we should fold up now, and stop the nastiness that is taking place at the moment. That brings TMB into disrepute. I think the situation needs to be addressed and clarified. If it be that non-believers are not welcome I will gracefully exit. But I feel strongly that the nastiness should cease. Look forward to what others think. I appreciate your effort to try to bring about a more civilized forum, redback.
I admit to being crude myself at times.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2021 14:30:56 GMT -5
So let us suggest to Admin that the Disclaimer indicate that the Watchperson has permission to use a verbal gun or sword to destroy the poster who makes a comment that the Watchperson does not agree with.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2021 14:39:31 GMT -5
So let us suggest to Admin that the Disclaimer indicate that the Watchperson has permission to use a verbal gun or sword to destroy the poster who makes a comment that the Watchperson does not agree with. what a shameful post and manipulative narrative you have made here. maybe you need a timeout from TMB then come back when you are more rational...
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Post by nathan02 on May 28, 2021 14:54:48 GMT -5
So let us suggest to Admin that the Disclaimer indicate that the Watchperson has permission to use a verbal gun or sword to destroy the poster who makes a comment that the Watchperson does not agree with. what a shameful post and manipulative narrative you have made here. maybe you need a timeout from TMB then come back when you are more rational... *** You see, Wally... There goes Mr. Jerkel and Dr. Hyde again! Starting out really nice post, then he pours the gasoline and toss the match to make a great bond of fire! Then he wonders how the fire started.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2021 14:57:03 GMT -5
what a shameful post and manipulative narrative you have made here. maybe you need a timeout from TMB then come back when you are more rational... *** You see, Wally... There goes Mr. Jerkel and Dr. Hyde again! Starting out really nice post, then he pours the gasoline and toss the match to make a great bond of fire! Then he wonders how the fire started. ain't that the truth...
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Post by mrdobalina on May 28, 2021 15:29:00 GMT -5
what a shameful post and manipulative narrative you have made here. maybe you need a timeout from TMB then come back when you are more rational... *** You see, Wally... There goes Mr. Jerkel and Dr. Hyde again! Starting out really nice post, then he pours the gasoline and toss the match to make a great bond of fire! Then he wonders how the fire started. You pair of d8ckheads are the ones inflaming the whole thing on here. I've been referred to as "the crazy new guy" when all I'm doing is calling you out on your BS, pretty much nothing more. I'm not the one that believes a book of myths & exaggerations. That would be crazy. David Bain.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2021 15:39:08 GMT -5
*** You see, Wally... There goes Mr. Jerkel and Dr. Hyde again! Starting out really nice post, then he pours the gasoline and toss the match to make a great bond of fire! Then he wonders how the fire started. You pair of d8ckheads are the ones inflaming the whole thing on here. I've been referred to as "the crazy new guy" when all I'm doing is calling you out on your BS, pretty much nothing more. I'm not the one that believes a book of myths & exaggerations. That would be crazy. David Bain. downunders probably should avoid forums as they can't seem to handle it all that well...
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Post by BobWilliston on May 28, 2021 15:44:28 GMT -5
Wally thought this forum was going to be his gospel congregation.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2021 15:49:39 GMT -5
Wally thought this forum was going to be his gospel congregation. no wally did not think that...glad i could help though...
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Post by nathan02 on May 28, 2021 16:29:36 GMT -5
You pair of d8ckheads are the ones inflaming the whole thing on here. I've been referred to as "the crazy new guy" when all I'm doing is calling you out on your BS, pretty much nothing more. I'm not the one that believes a book of myths & exaggerations. That would be crazy. David Bain. downunders probably should avoid forums as they can't seem to handle it all that well... ** Right on! Wally. Hearing/Reading the words and teachings of Jesus make them feel very uncomfortable! The Holy Spirit is convicting their hearts and they feel guilty in their hearts. They want to lash out their anger at us/believers.
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Post by nathan02 on May 28, 2021 16:42:13 GMT -5
Wally thought this forum was going to be his gospel congregation. ** You probably forget Jesus Great Commission to His apostles and followers in Matthew 28 go forth to all nations to the time of Jesus returns. I preach or tell the gospel of Jesus at work, on TMB, in the Sunday morning meetings and at different places. Jesus speaks the parable of the 10 talents, to invest more time and energy in spiritual things which bring eternal rewards! Laying up treasures in heaven and NOT to spend too much time on carnal things in this world only end at the graves.
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Post by dmmichgood on May 28, 2021 16:45:59 GMT -5
downunders probably should avoid forums as they can't seem to handle it all that well... ** Right on! Wally. Hearing/Reading the words and teachings of Jesus make them feel very uncomfortable! The Holy Spirit is convicting their hearts and they feel guilty in their hearts. They want to lash out their anger at us/believers. That is not true for me Nathan.
I have never felt more "comfortable" in my life!
But what I do take from your posts, Nathan, -is that you seem to have a tremendous sized ego and feel that you have nothing new to learn from anyone else.
That is not only dangerous to yourself but also a dead end.
I have found for myself that just being here on this forum I am always learning something I hadn't known before.
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Post by Grant on May 28, 2021 16:55:49 GMT -5
Wally thought this forum was going to be his gospel congregation. ** You probably forget Jesus Great Commission to His apostles and followers in Matthew 28 go forth to all nations to the time of Jesus returns. I preach or tell the gospel of Jesus at work, on TMB, in the Sunday morning meetings and at different places. Jesus speaks the parable of the 10 talents, to invest more time and energy in spiritual things which bring eternal rewards! Laying up treasures in heaven and NOT to spend too much time on carnal things in this world only end at the graves. Empty vain words when your behaviour doesn't match. It's not God who is working through you as I'd be ashamed to call myself a Christian if I behaved and treated people like you do. Nothing christlike about the way you treat people with different beliefs to you. If you wat to win people to Christ you need to change your attitude. You repel people and drive them away, not draw them. Not even those others on this board from your church agree with your behavior, apart from Wally who is not much better.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2021 17:05:07 GMT -5
The Disclaimer indicates that this is an open forum, where anyone can make their point of view known. Sure you expect positive and negative feedback but not the verbal abuse. Downunders are peace loving people, they work hard to stamp out abuse of any kind, be it verbal or any other kind. We all have the moral right to do that independent of our beliefs. Our Governments are doing their bit to stamp it out, Churches should do the same. I am sure that abuse would not be recommended to be used by Workers at Convention. It would not be promoted in any meetings, never was in our day. So why should it be accepted on TMB???.
Why should I have to obey the Watchperson who suggests "maybe you need a timeout from TMB then come back when you are more rational"
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2021 17:43:18 GMT -5
** You probably forget Jesus Great Commission to His apostles and followers in Matthew 28 go forth to all nations to the time of Jesus returns. I preach or tell the gospel of Jesus at work, on TMB, in the Sunday morning meetings and at different places. Jesus speaks the parable of the 10 talents, to invest more time and energy in spiritual things which bring eternal rewards! Laying up treasures in heaven and NOT to spend too much time on carnal things in this world only end at the graves. Empty vain words when your behaviour doesn't match. It's not God who is working through you as I'd be ashamed to call myself a Christian if I behaved and treated people like you do. Nothing christlike about the way you treat people with different beliefs to you. If you wat to win people to Christ you need to change your attitude. You repel people and drive them away, not draw them. Not even those others on this board from your church agree with your behavior, apart from Wally who is not much better. as the end draws near more and more will be like you and others will fall away as things get tough and you have to choose Gods way or the worlds way....
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2021 17:46:38 GMT -5
The Disclaimer indicates that this is an open forum, where anyone can make their point of view known. Sure you expect positive and negative feedback but not the verbal abuse. Downunders are peace loving people, they work hard to stamp out abuse of any kind, be it verbal or any other kind. We all have the moral right to do that independent of our beliefs. Our Governments are doing their bit to stamp it out, Churches should do the same. I am sure that abuse would not be recommended to be used by Workers at Convention. It would not be promoted in any meetings, never was in our day. So why should it be accepted on TMB???. Why should I have to obey the Watchperson who suggests "maybe you need a timeout from TMB then come back when you are more rational" i suspect that negative feedback and verbal abuse are the same thing for you in reality, crafty person that you are...
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2021 17:59:40 GMT -5
Just to clarify, verbal abuse is the use of words to cause harm to the person being spoken to. Verbal abuse may consist of shouting, insulting, intimidating, threatening, shaming, demeaning, or derogatory language, among other forms of communication.
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