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Post by nathan02 on Jun 6, 2021 15:28:49 GMT -5
70 years ago, Most of the current workers and friends have gone off the rail on Jesus is NOT God and NOT believing in the Trinity when in fact they do! worship God the Father, Jesus Christ the LORD God and our Savior and the Holy Spirit/God EVERY Sunday morning meeting over 120 years.
Most of the current 2x2 workers and friends don't believe Jesus is God and the Trinity, then how in the world are they going to believe God the Father, Jesus and the angels of God and the Old, new Testament believers souls LIVE inside Venus planet/heaven... waiting for the time to get the green light to come down from Venus with Jesus Christ in the cloud to receive their resurrection bodies to rule with Him 1000 years on earth.
I am more in tune with the early days workers teachings believing on Jesus is God and they believed and taught in the Trinity! The early days workers would be very upset at the current workers belief of Jesus is NOT God or Divine being, and they don't believe in the Trinity! then why would Jesus Christ and Holy Spirit on the same level with God the Father in EVERY Sunday worship meetings around the world.
Every Sunday morning meeting for 120years we have put our light under a basket..... Yes, the early workers would be aghast, very few black stockings, buns are disappearing, people are driving cars, people are not ripping the radios out of cars, people are not ripping antennas off cars, people have TV's in the home, the skirts are getting shorter, people have the internet ect ect ect ect. Seems like the women got a raw deal...... No one is coming or going from venus, that's a fact until NASA go there in the near future. ** NASA has lied to the world for MANY years! The highest intelligence in the White House agency KNOW a lot more about the interior and on the surface Venus planet. They KNOW Christ lives inside the planet away so the satellite cant watch them, the Venusians humans looking angels who told the highest people in U.S. gov't about these things in 1957-1960.
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Post by openingact34 on Jun 6, 2021 15:51:10 GMT -5
Many are having a drink as well, even party with non 2x2's. They can dance as well. They look fantastic, scrub up well. ”Therefore hell hath enlarged herself, and opened her mouth without measure: and their glory, and their multitude, and their pomp, and he that rejoiceth, shall descend into it." Isaiah 5:14
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Post by chuck on Jun 6, 2021 16:35:10 GMT -5
I have heard twice now from the platform in the last 2 years that "we don't believe in the trinity do we now". A veiled threat if ever I've heard one..... You dont believe in father /son and holy spirit? While I attended we heard more on Paul than crhist and the ho;y spirit was referred to as the spirit If "believe" comes down to a bunch of words on a post what does that mean?. The only way that could be answered was if you observed my life........and I do not mean my religious performance.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2021 16:43:37 GMT -5
Sodom Gomorra all over again. Poof, and it all will be gone. Makes you think, what a sod um, no morra.
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Post by nathan02 on Jun 6, 2021 16:45:11 GMT -5
You dont believe in father /son and holy spirit? While I attended we heard more on Paul than crhist and the ho;y spirit was referred to as the spirit If "believe" comes down to a bunch of words on a post what does that mean?. The only way that could be answered was if you observed my life........and I do not mean my religious performance. ** I know what most 2x2 workers are anti-Trinity and believe Jesus is NOT God. What do you believe Chuck? Wthat is your understanding on the Trinity/Godhead= God, Christ and Holy Spirit.
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Post by nathan02 on Jun 6, 2021 16:49:07 GMT -5
Sodom Gomorra all over again. Poof, and it all will be gone. Makes you think, what a sod um, no morra. ** Yes, the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah are proof but the souls of those people are in Hades/inner earth prison, waiting to face the Judges God and Christ and see much pushnishment they are going to get.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2021 16:52:42 GMT -5
Have you been there to visit them Nate.
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Post by nathan02 on Jun 6, 2021 17:02:06 GMT -5
Have you been there to visit them Nate. ** Nope and NEVER will as long I put my Faith and Trust in my Savior God Jesus Christ. Jesus had told us about hades in Luke 16 and the believers are no longer go to Hades after death ONLY the unbelievers souls go there now. Jesus paid the ransom price on Calvary so the believers souls are no longer going to Hades after death. Like I said for years I said the paradise mention in Genesis chapters 2-3 is inside the inner/hollow earth. It was inside the inner earth, where Adam and Eve SOLD their immortal souls and the rest of humans children souls to the Serpent/Satan. Therefore, after death the mortal human beings bodies return back to the dust, where God and Christ created them from. Their souls go to the place of Hades/paradise inner/hollow earth where Adam and it made the deal with Satan to BETRAY God and Christ in the garden of Eden. After they rejected God, He clothed them and send them to live on the surface to fend for themselves with the help from their new HARD and CRUEL master and god/Satan.
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Post by mrdobalina on Jun 6, 2021 17:41:30 GMT -5
Every Sunday morning meeting for 120years we have put our light under a basket..... Yes, the early workers would be aghast, very few black stockings, buns are disappearing, people are driving cars, people are not ripping the radios out of cars, people are not ripping antennas off cars, people have TV's in the home, the skirts are getting shorter, people have the internet ect ect ect ect. Seems like the women got a raw deal...... No one is coming or going from venus, that's a fact until NASA go there in the near future. ** NASA has lied to the world for MANY years! The highest intelligence in the White House agency KNOW a lot more about the interior and on the surface Venus planet. They KNOW Christ lives inside the planet away so the satellite cant watch them, the Venusians humans looking angels who told the highest people in U.S. gov't about these things in 1957-1960. That was quite proactive of God, to put christ inside a planet, so technology that wasnt to be invented for thousands of years couldn't watch them. Bravo God.
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Post by nathan02 on Jun 6, 2021 17:53:05 GMT -5
** NASA has lied to the world for MANY years! The highest intelligence in the White House agency KNOW a lot more about the interior and on the surface Venus planet. They KNOW Christ lives inside the planet away so the satellite cant watch them, the Venusians humans looking angels who told the highest people in U.S. gov't about these things in 1957-1960. That was quite proactive of God, to put christ inside a planet, so technology that wasnt to be invented for thousands of years couldn't watch them. Bravo God. ** God and Christ are Very Wise, the enemies can't see them and they can't ENTER to the inside of His kingdom without His permission or pass words through the opening force field North and South poles. God knows and can see the future. The surface is too HOT for any crafts to land or to invade His kingdom/Home.
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Post by mrdobalina on Jun 6, 2021 18:07:29 GMT -5
That was quite proactive of God, to put christ inside a planet, so technology that wasnt to be invented for thousands of years couldn't watch them. Bravo God. ** God and Christ are Very Wise, the enemies can't see them and they can't ENTER to the inside of His kingdom without His permission or pass words through the opening force field North and South poles. God knows and can see the future. The surface is too HOT for any crafts to land or to invade His kingdom/Home. It sounds like he created a problem, then created a solution to it so he seemed very smart. I've worked with guys like that, right d!ck8eads as a rule. If he had simply made it that man didn't have access to the technology in the first instance, it would have saved him two jobs. I'm surprised he is self employed with work ethics like that. He should run for leader of the Labour Party.
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Post by nathan02 on Jun 6, 2021 18:25:44 GMT -5
** God and Christ are Very Wise, the enemies can't see them and they can't ENTER to the inside of His kingdom without His permission or pass words through the opening force field North and South poles. God knows and can see the future. The surface is too HOT for any crafts to land or to invade His kingdom/Home. It sounds like he created a problem then created a solution so he seemed very smart. I've worked with guys like that, right d!ck8eads as a rule. He could have simply made it that man didn't have access to the technology in the first instance. ** God gave men the knowledge how to create satelites and Hubble Telescope to look at His creation in the universe but He can't show men everything! or how to get to His home. Men want to get inside of Venus planet and steal the technology from God and destroy His home.
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Post by mrdobalina on Jun 6, 2021 18:29:53 GMT -5
It sounds like he created a problem then created a solution so he seemed very smart. I've worked with guys like that, right d!ck8eads as a rule. He could have simply made it that man didn't have access to the technology in the first instance. Men want to get inside of Venus planet and steal the technology from God and destroy His home. And you know this exact,y how? Because you dreamed it? Last night I dreamed my classic car got a leaky cam cover gasket & put oil all over the exhaust manifold. I went to the shed this morning & it was good as gold. Dreams are just that.
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Post by nathan02 on Jun 6, 2021 18:36:46 GMT -5
Men want to get inside of Venus planet and steal the technology from God and destroy His home. And you know this exact,y how? Because you dreamed it? Last night I dreamed my classic car got a leaky cam cover gasket & put oil all over the exhaust manifold. I went to the shed this morning & it was good as gold. Dreams are just that. ** I have read information from who had been inside Venus and beings from there sharing the information.
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Post by mrdobalina on Jun 6, 2021 18:42:43 GMT -5
And you know this exact,y how? Because you dreamed it? Last night I dreamed my classic car got a leaky cam cover gasket & put oil all over the exhaust manifold. I went to the shed this morning & it was good as gold. Dreams are just that. ** I have read information from who had been inside Venus and beings from there sharing the information. How can you verify to yourself or others that these beings aren't just regular folk that are full of sh!t?
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Post by intelchips on Jun 6, 2021 20:20:50 GMT -5
If that's the case then what are you even doing here arguing their corner? You just admitted you don't agree with their angle. I just don't agree with them Denying Jesus is God and anti-Trinity but if they THINK it carefully what they do each Sunday morning meetings by coming together to worship God the Father, Christ our Lord God and Savior and Holy Spirit= The Trinity/Godhead that was the early days workers teachings and belief. They dislike the word Trinity but they keep the Sunday morning fellowship.
The current 2x2 workers hate the word Trinity it reminds them of the RCC teachings and they want no part of it.... If they KNEW who coined the word Trinity and the meaning behind it, they would agree so, they worship the Trinity and Jesus is God.
I agree The 2x2 workers have the rest of the doctrines correct! they believe in Jesus 2x2 apostolic/workers ministry and New Testament fellowship, no seminary require, no salary for preachers, no tithing but free will offering, no building churches, worship or the emblems are in the friends homes, and so on....
Just need a few minor changes like we believe in the Trinity and Jesus is God/Christ.... just like the early days workers have taught the friends in the beginning.
give an honest listen to: www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFnMUCUao3sand then decided if it isn't a much better story then the bible
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Post by nathan02 on Jun 6, 2021 20:29:14 GMT -5
** I have read information from who had been inside Venus and beings from there sharing the information. How can you verify to yourself or others that these beings aren't just regular folk that are full of sh!t? ** They are NOT regular folks! Some are from here on earth, a few of them from the planet Venus themselves. I have studied their lives for more than 10 years. You atheists are NOT going to believe their testimonies like when Christ/God came down from heaven/Venus and lived in the person Jesus to died for their sins. Jesus own Jewish people rejected and finally nailed him on Calvary's Tree. God had revealed His plans of Redemption for humanity a period of 4000 years, through His prophets, priests, kings, where the Christ/Messiah was going to born, his life, death and surrection from the dead. Christ/God revealed the apostle John the location of the heavenly Father and His home (Rev.22:16) so, the believers souls can look forward to join them FATER death or this life is over. Heaven is a REAL and an actual place where the humans can see with their naked eyes from earth. God is for REAL.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2021 21:26:58 GMT -5
I just don't agree with them Denying Jesus is God and anti-Trinity but if they THINK it carefully what they do each Sunday morning meetings by coming together to worship God the Father, Christ our Lord God and Savior and Holy Spirit= The Trinity/Godhead that was the early days workers teachings and belief. They dislike the word Trinity but they keep the Sunday morning fellowship.
The current 2x2 workers hate the word Trinity it reminds them of the RCC teachings and they want no part of it.... If they KNEW who coined the word Trinity and the meaning behind it, they would agree so, they worship the Trinity and Jesus is God.
I agree The 2x2 workers have the rest of the doctrines correct! they believe in Jesus 2x2 apostolic/workers ministry and New Testament fellowship, no seminary require, no salary for preachers, no tithing but free will offering, no building churches, worship or the emblems are in the friends homes, and so on....
Just need a few minor changes like we believe in the Trinity and Jesus is God/Christ.... just like the early days workers have taught the friends in the beginning.
give an honest listen to: www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFnMUCUao3sand then decided if it isn't a much better story then the bible pray for discernment to be able to tell mythology from biblical truths....
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Post by mrdobalina on Jun 6, 2021 21:49:14 GMT -5
How can you verify to yourself or others that these beings aren't just regular folk that are full of sh!t? ** They are NOT regular folks! Some are from here on earth, a few of them from the planet Venus themselves. I have studied their lives for more than 10 years. You atheists are NOT going to believe their testimonies like when Christ/God came down from heaven/Venus and lived in the person Jesus to died for their sins. Jesus own Jewish people rejected and finally nailed him on Calvary's Tree. God had revealed His plans of Redemption for humanity a period of 4000 years, through His prophets, priests, kings, where the Christ/Messiah was going to born, his life, death and surrection from the dead. Christ/God revealed the apostle John the location of the heavenly Father and His home (Rev.22:16) so, the believers souls can look forward to join them FATER death or this life is over. Heaven is a REAL and an actual place where the humans can see with their naked eyes from earth. God is for REAL. So no actual verification then? Instead, simply hang the blame on me for being a non beliving atheist.
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Post by nathan02 on Jun 6, 2021 22:39:34 GMT -5
** They are NOT regular folks! Some are from here on earth, a few of them from the planet Venus themselves. I have studied their lives for more than 10 years. You atheists are NOT going to believe their testimonies like when Christ/God came down from heaven/Venus and lived in the person Jesus to died for their sins. Jesus own Jewish people rejected and finally nailed him on Calvary's Tree. God had revealed His plans of Redemption for humanity a period of 4000 years, through His prophets, priests, kings, where the Christ/Messiah was going to born, his life, death and surrection from the dead. Christ/God revealed the apostle John the location of the heavenly Father and His home (Rev.22:16) so, the believers souls can look forward to join them FATER death or this life is over. Heaven is a REAL and an actual place where the humans can see with their naked eyes from earth. God is for REAL. So no actual verification then? Instead, simply hang the blame on me for being a non beliving atheist. *** The real truth for you atheists to find out is AFTER death, then you can't say is a myth where your souls are going. I have telling about heaven and you don't believe it so the only wait to see proof is after you will find out. I hope and pray God in mercy will show you before you die so, you will end up the RIGHT place in heaven and NOT in Hades.
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Post by Roselyn T on Jun 6, 2021 23:06:31 GMT -5
How can you verify to yourself or others that these beings aren't just regular folk that are full of sh!t? ** They are NOT regular folks! Some are from here on earth, a few of them from the planet Venus themselves. I have studied their lives for more than 10 years. You atheists are NOT going to believe their testimonies like when Christ/God came down from heaven/Venus and lived in the person Jesus to died for their sins. Jesus own Jewish people rejected and finally nailed him on Calvary's Tree. God had revealed His plans of Redemption for humanity a period of 4000 years, through His prophets, priests, kings, where the Christ/Messiah was going to born, his life, death and surrection from the dead. Christ/God revealed the apostle John the location of the heavenly Father and His home (Rev.22:16) so, the believers souls can look forward to join them FATER death or this life is over. Heaven is a REAL and an actual place where the humans can see with their naked eyes from earth. God is for REAL. The amusing part is Christians don't believe your BS either nathan...but you don't seem to be able to comprehend that.
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Post by mrdobalina on Jun 7, 2021 0:34:31 GMT -5
So no actual verification then? Instead, simply hang the blame on me for being a non beliving atheist. *** The real truth for you atheists to find out is AFTER death, then you can't say is a myth where your souls are going. I have telling about heaven and you don't believe it so the only wait to see proof is after you will find out. I hope and pray God in mercy will show you before you die so, you will end up the RIGHT place in heaven and NOT in Hades. Don't hand me that total BS christian cop out answer. Post up contact details of the Venusian folk so I can talk to them myself. I didn't say I don't believe it, im just asking for a bit more than hearsay evidence from you. But once again, "its all a problem with my faith, and i will get my come upance when I'm unable to prove you an idiot"
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Post by chuck on Jun 7, 2021 0:35:21 GMT -5
If "believe" comes down to a bunch of words on a post what does that mean?. The only way that could be answered was if you observed my life........and I do not mean my religious performance. ** I know what most 2x2 workers are anti-Trinity and believe Jesus is NOT God. What do you believe Chuck? Wthat is your understanding on the Trinity/Godhead= God, Christ and Holy Spirit. The Father is a Devine Nature The Son is the Devine Character lived out by Christ within the framework of his time. The Holy spirit is the Devine Character that's is in all of us that does not bind or enslave us and enables us to transcend our own selfishness to Live out the Character of Christ. Now to just blatantly say "I Believe" is worth the weight the paper it's written on, and so is any amount of religous performance tied to it.
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Post by nathan on Jun 7, 2021 0:52:02 GMT -5
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Post by nathan on Jun 7, 2021 0:55:13 GMT -5
** I know what most 2x2 workers are anti-Trinity and believe Jesus is NOT God. What do you believe Chuck? Wthat is your understanding on the Trinity/Godhead= God, Christ and Holy Spirit. The Father is a Devine Nature The Son is the Devine Character lived out by Christ within the framework of his time. The Holy spirit is the Devine Character that's is in all of us that does not bind or enslave us and enables us to transcend our own selfishness to Live out the Character of Christ. Now to just blatantly say "I Believe" is worth the weight the paper it's written on, and so is any amount of religous performance tied to it. I just want to be cleared..... Christ is Divine and Holy Spirit is also Divine.... Do you mean they are Divine/God just like God the Father is Divine?
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Post by nathan on Jun 7, 2021 1:03:54 GMT -5
pray for discernment to be able to tell mythology from biblical truths.... I heard and seen the video in the past... I like the stories from Genesis to Revelation are much easier for me to understand with the help of the Holy Spirit to open my mind to know the mysteries of the Godhead.
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Post by chuck on Jun 7, 2021 1:19:22 GMT -5
The Father is a Devine Nature The Son is the Devine Character lived out by Christ within the framework of his time. The Holy spirit is the Devine Character that's is in all of us that does not bind or enslave us and enables us to transcend our own selfishness to Live out the Character of Christ. Now to just blatantly say "I Believe" is worth the weight the paper it's written on, and so is any amount of religous performance tied to it. I just want to be cleared..... Christ is Divine and Holy Spirit is also Divine.... Do you mean they are Divine/God just like God the Father is Divine?
I do not have supernatural things in mind. Unless you can point to a event within my lifetime that supports what I think your devine entails.....
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Post by nathan on Jun 7, 2021 1:35:31 GMT -5
I just want to be cleared..... Christ is Divine and Holy Spirit is also Divine.... Do you mean they are Divine/God just like God the Father is Divine?
I do not have supernatural things in mind. Unless you can point to a event within my lifetime that supports what I think your devine entails..... So, who is Jesus Christ according to you?
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