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Post by fixit on Jun 6, 2021 0:31:43 GMT -5
If Jesus were to come back and want to preach in these churches he wouldn't be allowed to because he didn't attend or graduate from their denominations organizations/Seminaries. Would he be allowed to preach in ours?
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Post by speak on Jun 6, 2021 1:07:20 GMT -5
Not for much longer. Our glorious revolution will have us all on bikes. Some of the electric cars look good. I see quite a few charging around the towns here.. Meridian have got quite a few chargers at their office in town and are steadily buying more electric cars. I am about to buy an electric bike for getting around the hills. www.biktrix.com/pages/juggernaut-duo-details#Juggernaut-ultra-duo Mine will have a 1000w mid drive motor. But like everything else at the mo, there is loads of delays with shipping so I have to be patient. I plan to get an electric horse and buggy
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Post by chuck on Jun 6, 2021 1:38:45 GMT -5
If Jesus were to come back and want to preach in these churches he wouldn't be allowed to because he didn't attend or graduate from their denominations organizations/Seminaries. Would he be allowed to preach in ours? Not unless he did the rituals.......Oh the irony in Nathan's comment! I suspect he would be labelled a heretic but we will never find out because he's still as dead as the day he died.
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Post by nathan on Jun 6, 2021 1:39:24 GMT -5
If Jesus were to come back and want to preach in these churches he wouldn't be allowed to because he didn't attend or graduate from their denominations organizations/Seminaries. Would he be allowed to preach in ours? Yes, Jesus would allow to preach in our fellowship/ministry, the 2x2 apostolic ministry and the New Testament started by Jesus Christ, so the workers would recognize His teachings, he would NOT teach differently than what he had taught the apostles 2000 years ago, because he knew it has worked in every generation to now.
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Post by mrdobalina on Jun 6, 2021 1:43:20 GMT -5
Would he be allowed to preach in ours? Yes, Jesus would allow to preach in our fellowship/ministry.How do you know that?
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Post by chuck on Jun 6, 2021 1:45:04 GMT -5
Would he be allowed to preach in ours? Yes, Jesus would allow to preach in our fellowship/ministry, the 2x2 apostolic ministry and the New Testament started by Jesus Christ, so the workers would recognize His teachings, he would NOT teach differently than what he had taught the apostles 2000 years ago, because he knew it has worked in every generation to now.This is unadulterated garbage Nathan.
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Post by Roselyn T on Jun 6, 2021 1:50:59 GMT -5
Yes, Jesus would allow to preach in our fellowship/ministry. How do you know that? He has had a "special revelation" from God mrdobalina !
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Post by Roselyn T on Jun 6, 2021 1:52:38 GMT -5
Would he be allowed to preach in ours? Yes, Jesus would allow to preach in our fellowship/ministry, the 2x2 apostolic ministry and the New Testament started by Jesus Christ, so the workers would recognize His teachings, he would NOT teach differently than what he had taught the apostles 2000 years ago, because he knew it has worked in every generation to now.So how would that work nathan...considering the Workers views on the Trinity to start with ...?
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Post by shushy on Jun 6, 2021 1:53:22 GMT -5
If Christ were to return tomorrow I think many people would change and believe If Christ were to return tomorrow I think many people would change and believe when he returns everyone will believe but it will be too late then.... Why would I "change" and suddenly just "believe?"
Such paranormal, supernatural activity couldn't have been true in Jesus day and can't be true now.
It was just that in Jesus's time people the world over believed in paranormal, supernatural phenomenon; -not just about Jesus nor just in the area of the world.
History is rife with such beliefs.
Our world is both supernatural/spiritual as well as physical Whether a person believes it or not The spiritual power combined with the light of his glory will pierce every dark corner and expose ALL DARKNESS Not forgetting that Jesus IS LOVEi DOUBT ANYONE WILL BE LEFT STANDING
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Post by chuck on Jun 6, 2021 1:55:35 GMT -5
Yes, Jesus would allow to preach in our fellowship/ministry, the 2x2 apostolic ministry and the New Testament started by Jesus Christ, so the workers would recognize His teachings, he would NOT teach differently than what he had taught the apostles 2000 years ago, because he knew it has worked in every generation to now. So how would that work nathan...considering the Workers views on the Trinity to start with ...? I have heard twice now from the platform in the last 2 years that "we don't believe in the trinity do we now". A veiled threat if ever I've heard one.....
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Post by nathan on Jun 6, 2021 2:06:56 GMT -5
So how would that work nathan ...considering the Workers views on the Trinity to start with ...? I have heard twice now from the platform in the last 2 years that "we don't believe in the trinity do we now". A veiled threat if ever I've heard one..... 70 years ago, Most of the current workers and friends have gone off the rail on Jesus is NOT God and NOT believing in the Trinity when in fact they do! worship God the Father, Jesus Christ the LORD God and our Savior and the Holy Spirit/God EVERY Sunday morning meeting over 120 years.
Most of the current 2x2 workers and friends don't believe Jesus is God and the Trinity, then how in the world are they going to believe God the Father, Jesus and the angels of God and the Old, new Testament believers souls LIVE inside Venus planet/heaven... waiting for the time to get the green light to come down from Venus with Jesus Christ in the cloud to receive their resurrection bodies to rule with Him 1000 years on earth.
I am more in tune with the early days workers teachings believing on Jesus is God and they believed and taught in the Trinity! The early days workers would be very upset at the current workers belief of Jesus is NOT God or Divine being, and they don't believe in the Trinity! then why would Jesus Christ and Holy Spirit on the same level with God the Father in EVERY Sunday worship meetings around the world.
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Post by shushy on Jun 6, 2021 2:14:15 GMT -5
So how would that work nathan...considering the Workers views on the Trinity to start with ...? I have heard twice now from the platform in the last 2 years that "we don't believe in the trinity do we now". A veiled threat if ever I've heard one..... You dont believe in father /son and holy spirit? While I attended we heard more on Paul than crhist and the ho;y spirit was referred to as the spirit
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Post by mrdobalina on Jun 6, 2021 2:14:49 GMT -5
I have heard twice now from the platform in the last 2 years that "we don't believe in the trinity do we now". A veiled threat if ever I've heard one..... 70 years ago, Most of the current workers and friends have gone off the rail on Jesus is NOT God and NOT believing in the Trinity when in fact they do! worship God the Father, Jesus Christ the LORD God and our Savior and the Holy Spirit/God EVERY Sunday morning meeting over 120 years.
Most of the current 2x2 workers and friends don't believe Jesus is God and the Trinity, then how in the world are they going to believe God the Father, Jesus and the angels of God and the Old, new Testament believers souls LIVE inside Venus planet/heaven... waiting for the time to get the green light to come down from Venus with Jesus Christ in the cloud to receive their resurrection bodies to rule with Him 1000 years on earth.
I am more in tune with the early days workers teachings believing on Jesus is God and they believed and taught in the Trinity! The early days workers would be very upset at the current workers belief of Jesus is NOT God or Divine being, and they don't believe in the Trinity! then why would Jesus Christ and Holy Spirit on the same level with God the Father in EVERY Sunday worship meetings around the world.
If that's the case then what are you even doing here arguing their corner? You just admitted you don't agree with their angle. You should just log off & maybe buy a boat or motorcycle & have some fun. I honestly don't expect an answer from a cornered narcissist, but at least its posted up for all to see.
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Post by nathan on Jun 6, 2021 2:26:27 GMT -5
70 years ago, Most of the current workers and friends have gone off the rail on Jesus is NOT God and NOT believing in the Trinity when in fact they do! worship God the Father, Jesus Christ the LORD God and our Savior and the Holy Spirit/God EVERY Sunday morning meeting over 120 years.
Most of the current 2x2 workers and friends don't believe Jesus is God and the Trinity, then how in the world are they going to believe God the Father, Jesus and the angels of God and the Old, new Testament believers souls LIVE inside Venus planet/heaven... waiting for the time to get the green light to come down from Venus with Jesus Christ in the cloud to receive their resurrection bodies to rule with Him 1000 years on earth.
I am more in tune with the early days workers teachings believing on Jesus is God and they believed and taught in the Trinity! The early days workers would be very upset at the current workers belief of Jesus is NOT God or Divine being, and they don't believe in the Trinity! then why would Jesus Christ and Holy Spirit on the same level with God the Father in EVERY Sunday worship meetings around the world.
If that's the case then what are you even doing here arguing their corner? You just admitted you don't agree with their angle. I just don't agree with them Denying Jesus is God and anti-Trinity but if they THINK it carefully what they do each Sunday morning meetings by coming together to worship God the Father, Christ our Lord God and Savior and Holy Spirit= The Trinity/Godhead that was the early days workers teachings and belief. They dislike the word Trinity but they keep the Sunday morning fellowship.
The current 2x2 workers hate the word Trinity it reminds them of the RCC teachings and they want no part of it.... If they KNEW who coined the word Trinity and the meaning behind it, they would agree so, they worship the Trinity and Jesus is God.
I agree The 2x2 workers have the rest of the doctrines correct! they believe in Jesus 2x2 apostolic/workers ministry and New Testament fellowship, no seminary require, no salary for preachers, no tithing but free will offering, no building churches, worship or the emblems are in the friends homes, and so on....
Just need a few minor changes like we believe in the Trinity and Jesus is God/Christ.... just like the early days workers have taught the friends in the beginning.
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Post by Pragmatic on Jun 6, 2021 2:27:19 GMT -5
To a number of us on here, he is like the whining of a jet engine , and after a few hours, you get kind of used to it, and eventually not even hear it. Every now and again, the number two engine starts running a bit rough, and you hear that from time to time.
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Post by mrdobalina on Jun 6, 2021 2:28:43 GMT -5
If that's the case then what are you even doing here arguing their corner? You just admitted you don't agree with their angle. I just don't agree with them Denying Jesus is God and anti-Trinity but if they THINK it carefully what they do each Sunday morning meetings by coming together to worship God the Father, Christ our Lord God and Savior and Holy Spirit= The Trinity/Godhead that was the early days workers teachings and belief. They dislike the word Trinity but they keep the Sunday morning fellowship.
The current 2x2 workers hate the word Trinity it reminds them of the RCC teachings and they want no part of it.... If they KNEW who coined the word Trinity and the meaning behind it, they would agree so, they worship the Trinity and Jesus is God.
I agree The 2x2 workers have the rest of the doctrines correct! they believe in Jesus 2x2 apostolic/workers ministry and New Testament fellowship, no seminary require, no salary for preachers, no tithing but free will offering, no building churches, worship or the emblems are in the friends homes, and so on....
Just need a few minor changes like we believe in the Trinity and Jesus is God/Christ.... just like the early days workers have taught the friends in the beginning.
You should start a new religion that aligns precisely with what God wants. Its been done before, and I hear there's a fortune to be made.
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Post by nathan on Jun 6, 2021 2:37:27 GMT -5
I just don't agree with them Denying Jesus is God and anti-Trinity but if they THINK it carefully what they do each Sunday morning meetings by coming together to worship God the Father, Christ our Lord God and Savior and Holy Spirit= The Trinity/Godhead that was the early days workers teachings and belief. They dislike the word Trinity but they keep the Sunday morning fellowship.
The current 2x2 workers hate the word Trinity it reminds them of the RCC teachings and they want no part of it.... If they KNEW who coined the word Trinity and the meaning behind it, they would agree so, they worship the Trinity and Jesus is God.
I agree The 2x2 workers have the rest of the doctrines correct! they believe in Jesus 2x2 apostolic/workers ministry and New Testament fellowship, no seminary require, no salary for preachers, no tithing but free will offering, no building churches, worship or the emblems are in the friends homes, and so on....
Just need a few minor changes like we believe in the Trinity and Jesus is God/Christ.... just like the early days workers have taught the friends in the beginning.
You should start a new religion that aligns precisely with what God wants. Its been done before, and I hear there's a fortune to be made. Why, do I need to start a NEW religion when Christ has already started a perfect New Testament ministry and fellowship, just build on what He started it.
Paul wrote in I Cor. 3:10-11 By the grace God has given me, I laid a foundation as a wise builder, and someone else is building on it. But each one should build with care. For no one can lay any foundation other than the one already laid, which is Jesus Christ.
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Post by Roselyn T on Jun 6, 2021 2:45:01 GMT -5
I just don't agree with them Denying Jesus is God and anti-Trinity but if they THINK it carefully what they do each Sunday morning meetings by coming together to worship God the Father, Christ our Lord God and Savior and Holy Spirit= The Trinity/Godhead that was the early days workers teachings and belief. They dislike the word Trinity but they keep the Sunday morning fellowship.
The current 2x2 workers hate the word Trinity it reminds them of the RCC teachings and they want no part of it.... If they KNEW who coined the word Trinity and the meaning behind it, they would agree so, they worship the Trinity and Jesus is God.
I agree The 2x2 workers have the rest of the doctrines correct! they believe in Jesus 2x2 apostolic/workers ministry and New Testament fellowship, no seminary require, no salary for preachers, no tithing but free will offering, no building churches, worship or the emblems are in the friends homes, and so on....
Just need a few minor changes like we believe in the Trinity and Jesus is God/Christ.... just like the early days workers have taught the friends in the beginning.
You should start a new religion that aligns precisely with what God wants. Its been done before, and I hear there's a fortune to be made. I have been telling him that for years mrdobalina...go start his own religion !
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Post by Pragmatic on Jun 6, 2021 3:09:12 GMT -5
You should start a new religion that aligns precisely with what God wants. Its been done before, and I hear there's a fortune to be made. I have been telling him that for years mrdobalina ...go start his own religion ! He’d only get two or three followers. Hardly a firm financial footing for a church!
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Post by nathan on Jun 6, 2021 9:07:33 GMT -5
Yes, Jesus would allow to preach in our fellowship/ministry. How do you know that? God, Christ and Holy Spirit told me so through revelation. You atheist don't believe the Godhead, no wonder you wouldn't believe it.
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Post by nathan on Jun 6, 2021 9:22:32 GMT -5
I have been telling him that for years mrdobalina ...go start his own religion ! He’d only get two or three followers. Hardly a firm financial footing for a church! haha.. I don't need very much overhead, I have been doing this for 30 plus years, and get many good results from the experience. Yesterday, I met a young man one of my customers at work, who a strong believer we chat about God, Christ, the chaos of the world/current situation, the Illuminati, Satan, the whole nine yard, for an hour. He was abused as a child, served in Iraq tour as a medic, came home as a U.S. Marshall, a paramedic, and now he is a LT. officer for the fire department in the area at the age of 31 because of his special background. We went away hugging each others in tears. I gave him my website. I believe he is ready for an advance course!
2x2friendsworkers.proboards.com/thread/98/angel-god-talked-eisenhower-1957
I have many, many stories like this whom I met at work! many of them came to get gas and want to hear the gospel, the message of hope and encouragement. We chat about God and his awesomeness! and I give them my own website address to them to study it.Like I told the New atheist guy, RT and many on here for years, I don't NEED or WANT to start a new church or religion, ALL I need to do is I Cor. 3 to build on Jesus Christ, the apostles, and the workers New Testament ministry and fellowship. I encourage them to follow Jesus and His teachings, if they want more the fellowship/gospel meetings with same mind believers already in place with the workers and the friends. 6/17/19 Mountain/RAM wrote: Anyway, I have to say that you are a very hard man to fool, Nathan. You meticulously research anything before you will believe it as fact. Such screening makes it very difficult to convince you of anything. I'm sure many on this board will share my views regarding your proneness to detail and doubting. Therefore I would strongly advise anyone who doubts anything that you post, that they likewise venture on the quest of meticulous research before doing so. You've set the standard. Let others follow. Consider Nathan. An extremely intelligent character, who carries out meticulous research before presenting his views on here. Basically he is second to none. Have you noticed that there are several atheists on this board and every time Nathan engages them he wipes the floor with their arguments. Have you ever considered that these atheists are mere concoctions of Nathan, whom he shoots down time and again with his views, leaving himself the master of the debate. Generally there is no contest. Nathan wins hands down every time. They have no answer to him. Have you ever wondered why that is? 2) jetmech said in 2021: From what I've read, Roselyn, Jesus will come back like a thief in the night … no one knows when a thief in the night will be coming nor from what direction, nor to what location, etc. So, I can't say one way or the other. I can't outright say my friend is wrong about the Venus; but, I can say that from what I've read in the Bible it's highly unlikely. With that said, I believe too many times different ones on this board are tergiversatious in their thinking and communicating. Ever tried to hold a conversation with a tergiversate? You're wasting your time, because the tergiversate will NEVER agree with you on anything, and that's the very basis of being a tergiversate … never to agree, always to debate … it's a 'condition.' I admire Nathan, especially since he's an Asian, because he understands the English language as well as he does, and I admire the detail at which he understands biblical ideas and concepts after having grown up in Vietnam and moved to the USA and obviously self-taught himself so many things about our culture, adopting our ideas, and taking these things on himself. I don't agree with every little thing Nathan says; but, I can say honestly, I've learned more from Nathan about the Bible than I learned in gospel meeting during my entire childhood and adult life - before I met him on the board in the year 2000.
I believe if the tergiversates who constantly feign disagreement with Nate as a reason to constantly reply negative, would step back, take a breath, pause and contemplate, and "listen to understand" rather than "listen to reply" … they'd see many things to admire Nathan about. ~~ SharonW. wrote in 2018: You're absolutely right, Nathan! Jesus, God the Son is such an awesome Almighty One! It still amazes me to think I'd gone nearly 60 yrs. reading the bible very faithfully and NEVER got that for myself! Strange that, eh? I pray for those in the fellowship still, that they can come to that maturity of understanding about our Beloved Lord! I think that they are missing something totally OUT OF THIS WORLD! Simply because the majority of them have LITTLE idea about who Jesus really is! O What A Savior! I had hardly ever heard of the concept except in a table discussion back when I was about 4 or 5 yrs. old. A number of workers and our family sharing a meal together. My Gram having been raised a Baptist, knew what the Trinity concept was. It was brought into discussion and the older workers exclaimed that the doctrine was a heresy! I never heard of the concept again until coming on TMB. Nathan wrote an extensive explanation with scripture backing of what the Trinity means and is...it was almost beyond my comprehension! I became troubled that this was beyond my comprehension so much so, that I prayed to God that "IF HE thought it necessary for me to understand the Trinity, then would HE PLEASE reveal it to me." I left it there and after some time, it begin to come to me at another time of prayer like a light from heaven! The joy of that understanding of my Lord is beyond another imagination, comprehension.... YES! God revealed it to me! Jesus is the most wonderful awesome King of Kings and Lord of Lords and HE died for me! Hallelujah! And I was professing when this happened! I believed in the Trinity while I was still professing! After I'd studied Jesus Christ for about 3 years and had some long arguments with Nathan and Stanne here on TMB with Scott sometimes putting a bit of information in the kettle, I had to realize that all that Nathan and Stanne were saying about the Trinity was definitely in the bible even thought the word "Trinity" wasn't! As time passed and more realization of what the Trinity was all about, and I'll say we that do believe are always gaining more insight into it as we go on and maturity of using the word of God (the bible) feeding on the "meat of the word" that it is certainly like most of mankind throughout the ages that as each generation lives and dies the more understanding of the heavenly God has come into the minds of that generation. So I feel that ignorance and misunderstanding is what's keeping most in the 2x2 from accepting or knowing the Trinity= Triune God concept!
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Post by nathan02 on Jun 6, 2021 11:29:54 GMT -5
** You two atheists are the most dumb and dummer to understand it. Better to be considered dumb by a gullible person than to be considered gullible by a dumb person I guess. You're the clown that thinks we're all off in a clear spaceship called Victor 1 to live inside a solid planet 239 million km away when we shuffle off. Well not all of us, just those of us that believe in a particular interpretation of a certain book. *** The believers souls go directly to heaven/Venus, where God and Christ live after death. After death the atheists and unbelievers souls go to Hades/inside the inner earth, that is where Satan imprison the un-repentant souls there to the time they must appear before the Judgement day to be sentenced the second death/Lake of fire= eternal separation from God prenice forever and ever.
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Post by nathan02 on Jun 6, 2021 11:32:33 GMT -5
So how would that work nathan...considering the Workers views on the Trinity to start with ...? I have heard twice now from the platform in the last 2 years that "we don't believe in the trinity do we now". A veiled threat if ever I've heard one..... ** These 2x2 current workers didn't even know most of the early days workers believed and taught the Trinity and Jesus is God.
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Post by chuck on Jun 6, 2021 14:27:47 GMT -5
Would he be allowed to preach in ours? Yes, Jesus would allow to preach in our fellowship/ministry, the 2x2 apostolic ministry and the New Testament started by Jesus Christ, so the workers would recognize His teachings, he would NOT teach differently than what he had taught the apostles 2000 years ago, because he knew it has worked in every generation to now.You didn't recognise the Fig Tree.......
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Post by chuck on Jun 6, 2021 14:36:24 GMT -5
I have heard twice now from the platform in the last 2 years that "we don't believe in the trinity do we now". A veiled threat if ever I've heard one..... 70 years ago, Most of the current workers and friends have gone off the rail on Jesus is NOT God and NOT believing in the Trinity when in fact they do! worship God the Father, Jesus Christ the LORD God and our Savior and the Holy Spirit/God EVERY Sunday morning meeting over 120 years.
Most of the current 2x2 workers and friends don't believe Jesus is God and the Trinity, then how in the world are they going to believe God the Father, Jesus and the angels of God and the Old, new Testament believers souls LIVE inside Venus planet/heaven... waiting for the time to get the green light to come down from Venus with Jesus Christ in the cloud to receive their resurrection bodies to rule with Him 1000 years on earth.
I am more in tune with the early days workers teachings believing on Jesus is God and they believed and taught in the Trinity! The early days workers would be very upset at the current workers belief of Jesus is NOT God or Divine being, and they don't believe in the Trinity! then why would Jesus Christ and Holy Spirit on the same level with God the Father in EVERY Sunday worship meetings around the world.
Every Sunday morning meeting for 120years we have put our light under a basket..... Yes, the early workers would be aghast, very few black stockings, buns are disappearing, people are driving cars, people are not ripping the radios out of cars, people are not ripping antennas off cars, people have TV's in the home, the skirts are getting shorter, people have the internet ect ect ect ect. Seems like the women got a raw deal...... No one is coming or going from venus, that's a fact until NASA go there in the near future.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2021 15:02:15 GMT -5
Many are having a drink as well, even party with non 2x2's. They can dance as well. They look fantastic, scrub up well.
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Post by Grant on Jun 6, 2021 15:15:23 GMT -5
He’d only get two or three followers. Hardly a firm financial footing for a church! haha.. I don't need very much overhead, I have been doing this for 30 plus years, and get many good results from the experience. Yesterday, I met a young man one of my customers at work, who a strong believer we chat about God, Christ, the chaos of the world/current situation, the Illuminati, Satan, the whole nine yard, for an hour. He was abused as a child, served in Iraq tour as a medic, came home as a U.S. Marshall, a paramedic, and now he is a LT. officer for the fire department in the area at the age of 31 because of his special background. We went away hugging each others in tears. I gave him my website. I believe he is ready for an advance course!
2x2friendsworkers.proboards.com/thread/98/angel-god-talked-eisenhower-1957
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The link to your site goes no where. It says according to section 25 a of proboards terms and conditions it has been taken off line.
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Post by nathan02 on Jun 6, 2021 15:22:05 GMT -5
Thanks, enuf... I will Fixit after I get home.
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