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Chauvin
Apr 24, 2021 10:39:23 GMT -5
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Post by Lee on Apr 24, 2021 10:39:23 GMT -5
"Evil world?"
Well, Lee, aren't the one who believes that your god made it? For the religious such as Lee, it is always someones elses fault. The old testament is full of such baloney and the Jews murdered and raped and pillaged there way across Palestine because their stupid god told them to. As I identify in Christ’s sufferings, there’s a sense that I don’t feel any need to do further penance for my sins. That said, I was definitely born a sinner. By his chosen race of the ethnic Jews, God asserted his place in this world as the supreme moral arbiter. As far as the people they savaged and pilloried goes, generally speaking I have no sympathy for them. The natural and appropriate end of the depraved is death. Just a casual reading of primitive peoples will reveal the scope of their (our?) depravity.
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Chauvin
Apr 24, 2021 10:43:39 GMT -5
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Post by Lee on Apr 24, 2021 10:43:39 GMT -5
I do. Unlike yourself, I have the humility to meet and challenge its demonic core. Meanwhile, people like you will offer up scapegoats. Your entire worldview will become so manifestly diseased you will vomit it up. Ah, -but its the opposite. It is often religion that use scapegoats for what happens.
It is religion that has created demons as scapegoats for the cause the problems in the world.
That releases themselves from having to do any work to change anything about the problems.
Although I have known & have worked along side of some people of religious faiths who did realize that they needed to do something themselves.
PS Lee, you don't even know what consists of my "entire worldview." Inform us then. Thus far you’ve not offered an authoritative worldview. Only a relativistic or non-existent construction of morality where power ultimately (and more typically expediently) determines what is right and wrong.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Apr 24, 2021 14:14:33 GMT -5
For the religious such as Lee, it is always someones elses fault. The old testament is full of such baloney and the Jews murdered and raped and pillaged there way across Palestine because their stupid god told them to. As I identify in Christ’s sufferings, there’s a sense that I don’t feel any need to do further penance for my sins. That said, I was definitely born a sinner. By his chosen race of the ethnic Jews, God asserted his place in this world as the supreme moral arbiter. As far as the people they savaged and pilloried goes, generally speaking I have no sympathy for them. The natural and appropriate end of depraved is death. Just a casual reading of primitive peoples will reveal the scope of their (our?) depravity. That's one hell of an arrogant myth.
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Chauvin
Apr 24, 2021 14:18:00 GMT -5
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Post by Lee on Apr 24, 2021 14:18:00 GMT -5
It is, if your worldview begins upon an assumption that you are God. That is to say, if your worldview begins upon an assumption that you have determined the truth for yourself apart from any other witness.
Christianity has a long history of witnesses, including the prince of witnesses as our religion speaks, Jesus himself.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Apr 24, 2021 14:33:37 GMT -5
It is, if your worldview begins upon an assumption that you are God. That is to say, if your worldview begins upon an assumption that you have determined the truth for yourself apart from any other witness. Christianity has a long history of witnesses, including the prince of witnesses as our religion speaks, Jesus himself. Thanks lee, but I will stick to science and factual evidence rather than your mythology.
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Chauvin
Apr 24, 2021 14:33:53 GMT -5
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on Apr 24, 2021 14:33:53 GMT -5
Wow what a sickening statement ! I also have a piece about the X comment by a person in this thread , will post after editing by my crew . Stunning !
My mom professed for 78 years and never would she say , or write such a statement .
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Chauvin
Apr 24, 2021 14:35:11 GMT -5
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on Apr 24, 2021 14:35:11 GMT -5
Double my bad
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Chauvin
Apr 24, 2021 14:41:23 GMT -5
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on Apr 24, 2021 14:41:23 GMT -5
Obsequious ! Yep sure whatever works for you . IMO
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Chauvin
Apr 24, 2021 15:07:02 GMT -5
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Post by Lee on Apr 24, 2021 15:07:02 GMT -5
It is, if your worldview begins upon an assumption that you are God. That is to say, if your worldview begins upon an assumption that you have determined the truth for yourself apart from any other witness. Christianity has a long history of witnesses, including the prince of witnesses as our religion speaks, Jesus himself. Thanks lee, but I will stick to science and factual evidence rather than your mythology. All acquisition and determination of fact short of centering on God will resort to a meth/mythodology. And if methodology is what your faith is in, you will come short of the truth. The quest for the truth will prove to be a living preoccupation. It won’t be something you can domesticate into a university setting. It will be real, a heaven reserved exclusively for those of us who want to be, -real.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Apr 24, 2021 15:08:20 GMT -5
Thanks lee, but I will stick to science and factual evidence rather than your mythology. All acquisition and determination of fact short of centering on God will resort to a meth/mythodology. And if methodology is what your faith is in, you will come short of the truth. The quest for the truth will prove to be a living preoccupation. It won’t be something you can domesticate into a university setting. It will be real, a heaven reserved exclusively for those of us who want to be, -real. You make as much sense as one of those talking animals in your Book of Talking Animals.
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Chauvin
Apr 24, 2021 15:10:20 GMT -5
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Post by Lee on Apr 24, 2021 15:10:20 GMT -5
So long as animals not human are making more sense than animals human, let’s listen to animals for wisdom.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Apr 24, 2021 15:12:06 GMT -5
So long as animals not human are making more sense than animals human, let’s listen to animals for wisdom. Humans are animals. We are part of the Great Ape family.
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Chauvin
Apr 24, 2021 15:22:26 GMT -5
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Post by Lee on Apr 24, 2021 15:22:26 GMT -5
Part of. Not all of.
We were made animals in order to prove Gods benevolence over all creation.
In other words, if a morally astute, cognizant, and responsible organism were to emerge from the fog, could it it be distinguished from the fog.
The devils jealous designs on God says “No”.
History says “Yes”.
"I am the LORD; that is my name! I will not yield my glory to another or my praise to idols”.
Isaiah 42:8
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on Apr 24, 2021 15:26:26 GMT -5
Charity suffereth long , and it is kind Charity envieth not, itself Charity vaunteth is not itself Is not puffed up...................................
Charity bearers all things Believeth all things Hopeth all things Endureth all things Now abideth faith , hope , charity , these three But the greatest of these is charity .
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Chauvin
Apr 24, 2021 15:33:34 GMT -5
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Post by Lee on Apr 24, 2021 15:33:34 GMT -5
Most humans arent charitable as they strive to thrive, and especially as they thrive to survive. This, of necessity. Thus in heaven, our actions will be graded upon our circumstances.
You won’t find mercy in this world. This world is all about material production.
And survival. ....As our elites strive to present themselves worthy of a world.
It takes a lot to run a world efficiently.
For that matter, it takes a lot to run a world equitably, fairly.
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on Apr 24, 2021 15:37:48 GMT -5
World is not now & and presently working efficiently . Whatever floats your boat . Yes I see many people that don’t act charitable . Right Lee ? I believe 2X2’s are supposed to be charitable . My boat is chillin and as calm as possible . A long ago time ago realized I am not the captain . I embrace the universe because I just human .
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Chauvin
Apr 24, 2021 15:44:52 GMT -5
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Post by Lee on Apr 24, 2021 15:44:52 GMT -5
Whatever floats your boat mentality is a non Christian concession.
Christians, on the Jewish root, were the first to introduce orthodoxy to the human being.
This was an attempt to understand the human animal spiritually and physically, so as to offer, -fore and aft of medicine and balm for his condition, hope.
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