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Post by Dan on Nov 26, 2020 0:42:00 GMT -5
"If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men" (Romans 12:18). You can be a peace loving person, but it just isn't always possible to get along with some people, especially when they want to take your property (guns). I love my neighbors as I do myself (Mark 12:31), I wouldn't demand that my neighbors surrender their guns, nor would they demand likewise. A gun just demonstrates that your prepared to defend yourself, its not meant to illustrate love. "But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel" (1 Timothy 5:8). Imo, providing a safe environment is a Christian duty.
Look you have quoted Paul, I don't see him advocating using or even having a weapon of any shape or description.
Like Jesus, the apostles were on a spiritual mission and knew they would be persecuted for his names sake. But no where did they tell others not to protect themselves, and remember that Christ himself okayed his disciples bringing a couple swords (Luke 22:38). Loving your neighbor as yourself never meant to meet an invading adversary with love and kisses. Just a hypothetical question; If you saw a woman being raped and refused to intercede because your a pacifist who opposes any form of violence, have you committed a sin? Wouldn't your inaction be construed as approval of the crime? Doing nothing could be interpreted as being complicit in the offense. Jesus said; "Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends" (John15;13). How is refusing to physically help a victim a Christian thing to do? When Jesus saw the money changers in the temple, he chose to violently intercede to right a wrong. Pacifist aren't good Samaritans when they refuse to help, they are selfish narcissist who will not lay down their lives for anyone or anything for any reason... jmo
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Post by speak on Nov 26, 2020 0:42:13 GMT -5
have we forgotten 9/11 already? I wonder why they done it/ Revenge maybe.
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Post by nathan on Nov 26, 2020 1:01:26 GMT -5
Crazy high school kids, Crazy Postal office men, Crazy drug addicts, Crazy workers who hate their bosses, Terrorists from talibans, ISIS, Al-Qaeda, and so on... the list is quite long. Looks like mostly home grown with access to guns, yep it was their right to have those guns according to your constitution, home grown death on a grand scale. Guns guns oh glorious guns the sick mind of America. Guns to protect yourself and families from the homes invasion intruders, robbers, crazy terrorists with guns... Yes, we have a lot of sick minds/people in U.S. so we need to protect ourselves and families!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2020 1:03:44 GMT -5
have we forgotten 9/11 already? I wonder why they done it/ Revenge maybe. oh i see, you are a blame the victim not the perp kinda guy.... one of the reasons they "done it" was because of america's support for israel. do i take it you don't like israel either?
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Post by speak on Nov 26, 2020 1:19:51 GMT -5
Looks like mostly home grown with access to guns, yep it was their right to have those guns according to your constitution, home grown death on a grand scale. Guns guns oh glorious guns the sick mind of America. Guns to protect yourself and families from the homes invasion intruders, robbers, crazy terrorists with guns... Yes, we have a lot of sick minds/people in U.S. so we need to protect ourselves and families!You still don't get it, one gun becomes two guns and so it goes on until you have a country so riddled with guns that you will need a wheel barrow to cart them around in. Every body is held to ransom because of the gun. I know you won't understand this so no point in me continuing to discuss this subject.
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Post by speak on Nov 26, 2020 1:24:22 GMT -5
I wonder why they done it/ Revenge maybe. oh i see, you are a blame the victim not the perp kinda guy.... one of the reasons they "done it" was because of america's support for israel. do i take it you don't like israel either? We will bomb the life out of them, shoot them all dead and see if we can't blame them. America has done far more to the people of this world that you will never know even to effect my own family. I give it it's due for WW2 and for the great sacrifice made.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2020 1:42:19 GMT -5
oh i see, you are a blame the victim not the perp kinda guy.... one of the reasons they "done it" was because of america's support for israel. do i take it you don't like israel either? We will bomb the life out of them, shoot them all dead and see if we can't blame them. America has done far more to the people of this world that you will never know even to effect my own family. I give it it's due for WW2 and for the great sacrifice made. there is a solution to escape america's wrath don't fly planes into our buildings....
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Post by nathan on Nov 26, 2020 1:44:01 GMT -5
Guns to protect yourself and families from the homes invasion intruders, robbers, crazy terrorists with guns... Yes, we have a lot of sick minds/people in U.S. so we need to protect ourselves and families! You still don't get it, one gun becomes two guns and so it goes on until you have a country so riddled with guns that you will need a wheel barrow to cart them around in. Every body is held to ransom because of the gun. I know you won't understand this so no point in me continuing to discuss this subject. Yep, you stick with your own land down under or NZ rules on guns and let us Americans deal the guns rules and rights in our own country since you don't LIVE here. If you were to live in America you have the rights NOT to carry guns like lots of Americans don't carry guns. There are Americans have their rights to carry weapons with license in the land of the Free to protect their families and others.
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Post by bfvernon on Nov 26, 2020 4:26:04 GMT -5
Gee willikins, Nathan. They must miss you in The Work.
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Post by Annan on Nov 26, 2020 8:56:23 GMT -5
Looks like mostly home grown with access to guns, yep it was their right to have those guns according to your constitution, home grown death on a grand scale. Guns guns oh glorious guns the sick mind of America. Guns to protect yourself and families from the homes invasion intruders, robbers, crazy terrorists with guns... Yes, we have a lot of sick minds/people in U.S. so we need to protect ourselves and families!So religious nutjobs like you and Waldo?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2020 9:52:30 GMT -5
Guns to protect yourself and families from the homes invasion intruders, robbers, crazy terrorists with guns... Yes, we have a lot of sick minds/people in U.S. so we need to protect ourselves and families! So religious nutjobs like you and Waldo? Jud_1:18 How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.
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Post by nathan on Nov 26, 2020 11:08:35 GMT -5
So religious nutjobs like you and Waldo? Jud_1:18 How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts. Here is Another good one is Jude 14-15 14 And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints, To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him.
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Post by nathan on Nov 26, 2020 11:11:49 GMT -5
Gee willikins, Nathan. They must miss you in The Work. hehe... I have more freedom speaking the Truth now! In the work, a person can't speak the TRUTH (Jesus is God the Son, the Trinity, Jesus lives in Venus/heaven, the 2x2 Vaudois/Waldenses before the 2x2 Faith Mission and 2x2 workers and friends) in public/gospel meetings, Sunday morning meetings, special meetings, conventions because they are NOT ready for it. God has allowed me to speak and share the message of these TRUTH on TMB and on the Internet for all to read.
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Post by Annan on Nov 26, 2020 12:27:38 GMT -5
So religious nutjobs like you and Waldo? Jud_1:18 How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts. Quoting from a book is proof of nothing... nada... zilch.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Nov 26, 2020 12:36:47 GMT -5
Jud_1:18 How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts. Quoting from a book is proof of nothing... nada... zilch. It's the same book that says a bat is a bird. Ever seen a bird with teeth? baaaaaaaaaa
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Post by fixit on Nov 26, 2020 13:52:32 GMT -5
Ideally, those who prefer freedom and human rights should die of Covid quietly at home. That would free up medical resources for those who deserve help. said every dictator that ever lived....good to know which side your on.... So those who carelessly infect others should tie down the medical resources that their victims need? Nice.
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Post by fixit on Nov 26, 2020 13:57:54 GMT -5
I have more freedom speaking the Truth now! In the work, a person can't speak the TRUTH (Jesus is God the Son, the Trinity, Jesus lives in Venus/heaven, the 2x2 Vaudois/Waldenses before the 2x2 Faith Mission and 2x2 workers and friends) in public/gospel meetings, Sunday morning meetings, special meetings, conventions because they are NOT ready for it. God has allowed me to speak and share the message of these TRUTH on TMB and on the Internet for all to read. We're not ready for it on TMB. Please desist.
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on Nov 26, 2020 14:31:19 GMT -5
Not many legal guns in Canada 🇨🇦 Gangs have them at their disposal always Not too many mass shooting’s so far Fingers crossed , it takes a lot to get a permit for a gun here , Background checks , mental health , are a few steps in Canada 🇨🇦 . You can’t just walk in and buy one here .
We do have about 5 guns at home in Texas . Mostly for snakes . Cottonmouths and rattlesnake’s If they get in yard they gotta go . Other than that shots at empty cans .
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Post by speak on Nov 26, 2020 16:25:06 GMT -5
We will bomb the life out of them, shoot them all dead and see if we can't blame them. America has done far more to the people of this world that you will never know even to effect my own family. I give it it's due for WW2 and for the great sacrifice made. there is a solution to escape america's wrath don't fly planes into our buildings.... Especially after we bomb and shoot you.
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Post by speak on Nov 26, 2020 16:25:45 GMT -5
Gee willikins, Nathan. They must miss you in The Work. Like a sore toe.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Nov 26, 2020 18:05:27 GMT -5
Gee willikins, Nathan. They must miss you in The Work. I hear there were copious amounts of crocodile tears shed.
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Post by Pragmatic on Nov 26, 2020 18:10:47 GMT -5
Gee willikins, Nathan. They must miss you in The Work. hehe... I have more freedom speaking the Truth now! In the work, a person can't speak the TRUTH (Jesus is God the Son, the Trinity, Jesus lives in Venus/heaven, the 2x2 Vaudois/Waldenses before the 2x2 Faith Mission and 2x2 workers and friends) in public/gospel meetings, Sunday morning meetings, special meetings, conventions because they are NOT ready for it. God has allowed me to speak and share the message of these TRUTH on TMB and on the Internet for all to read.You really are full of your own importance, in your own mind.
What makes you think people on here are ready for this garbage? And what an insult to the Workers, saying "a person can't speak the truth".
You really are a piece of work
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Post by nathan on Nov 26, 2020 18:38:19 GMT -5
hehe... I have more freedom speaking the Truth now! In the work, a person can't speak the TRUTH (Jesus is God the Son, the Trinity, Jesus lives in Venus/heaven, the 2x2 Vaudois/Waldenses before the 2x2 Faith Mission and 2x2 workers and friends) in public/gospel meetings, Sunday morning meetings, special meetings, conventions because they are NOT ready for it. God has allowed me to speak and share the message of these TRUTH on TMB and on the Internet for all to read. You really are full of your own importance, in your own mind.
What makes you think people on here are ready for this garbage? And what an insult to the Workers, saying "a person can't speak the truth".
You really are a piece of work
** There were workers like John Starkweather, Truitt Oyler and his brother excommunicated in Montana 1970 for preaching Jesus is God, the Trinity. The overseer allowed Truitt back in the work with one condition he couldn't preach Jesus is God. In 1990 the overseer excommunicated Truitt again for teaching the friends Jesus is God and 6 or more workers from Alaska staff, who agreed with him were scattered to different states and Canada. I was in Montana 1990 and after Truitt was excommunicated he came and stayed with his parents, who lived in our field. Jesus is God and that is the Truth! The RCC didn't come up with The Trinity doctrine and that is the truth. Most Christians, 2x2s can't believe Jesus and God the Father and all the angels live inside the planet Venus, which is heaven and Hades is Inside the earth and That is the Truth also.
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Post by nathan on Nov 26, 2020 19:02:25 GMT -5
Gee willikins, Nathan. They must miss you in The Work. Like a sore toe. ** You call me rude! But you can't see many of your short remarks like this for 15 yrs are NOT mean and crude? Who are you trying to fool, elder?
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Post by Annan on Nov 26, 2020 20:00:36 GMT -5
** You call me rude! But you can't see many of your short remarks like this for 15 yrs are NOT mean and crude? Who are you trying to fool, elder? Listen up, Nathan, sweetie. Your role, Nathan is to try and drive people away from God. You present an hateful, vengeful God. Nothing of the love of God but hate. You have a completely unbalanced view of the Gospel. Jesus came to save the world, not condemn it. Do you not wonder why very few Christians come on this board any more. Your Trump like, self righteousness behaviors repels, not draws people. You even argue against those in your own church. No one except Wally agrees you. Don't say you're just the messenger because you're a false messenger. Jesus lives in venus, hollow earth, conspiracy theories shows how far away from reality you've got. Nothing friendly about your message. You're dominating and controlling and poor example of a Christian. Maybe read How to win friends and influence people - it would be a good start instead of your Stranges stuff.
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Post by shushy on Nov 26, 2020 20:16:08 GMT -5
Fixit I think you missed the point. Freedom, human rights Not force and fear. Ps: Andrews has been accused of causing 800 deaths and many suicides. You really should swap places with an American you would love the Covid-free life you enjoy thanks to the wise leadership of Dan Andrews. I think the 1,420,000 known deaths so far from Covid would happily sacrifice some freedom and human rights to be alive. How can you not care about unnecessary deaths from a preventable disease? Your preference for freedom and human rights comes at a very high price. Let's assume you're OK with a lot of people dying unnecessary, but how about sparing a thought for the medical profession that has to deal with the consequences of political stupidity? Would you like to choose which people die because ICU beds and ventilators are fully used? www.bbc.com/future/article/20200428-coronavirus-how-doctors-choose-who-lives-and-diesFirstly you have me all wrong if you think I dont care . That is BS right there. Any unnecessary deaths are painful for the families. We paid a price in Melbourne. which is ok, what is NOT is being dictated too. We are indiviuals we were placed here to enjoy our planet. No one has the right to take away any human right from someone else. When the truth is out you will understand. you presently dont know the truth Just as a mattter of interest have you asked the HS about this? My family have been working through in medical profession. Im the nanny. Wise guy Just as a matter of interest have you asked the HS about whats going on?
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Post by nathan on Nov 26, 2020 20:47:12 GMT -5
** You call me rude! But you can't see many of your short remarks like this for 15 yrs are NOT mean and crude? Who are you trying to fool, elder? Listen up, Nathan, sweetie. Your role, Nathan is to try and drive people away from God. You present an hateful, vengeful God. Nothing of the love of God but hate. You have a completely unbalanced view of the Gospel. Jesus came to save the world, not condemn it. Do you not wonder why very few Christians come on this board any more. Your Trump like, self righteousness behaviors repels, not draws people. You even argue against those in your own church. No one except Wally agrees you. Don't say you're just the messenger because you're a false messenger. Jesus lives in venus, hollow earth, conspiracy theories shows how far away from reality you've got. Nothing friendly about your message. You're dominating and controlling and poor example of a Christian. Maybe read How to win friends and influence people - it would be a good start instead of your Stranges stuff. You LIED too much, Witch...1) Annan wrote 2/20/20: Prove I cast a spell. This spell came from the mean Witch/Annan... it hasn't worked.Anna wrote on 2/20/20 Lord of Darkness hear my plea.The spell below on Nathan please.I tie your fingers in a knot. You cannot type or wipe your snot. You cannot post, no not word. You cannot see, your eyes are blurred. For a year... make that a day. That Nathan cannot work or play. So mote it be! Worth a try. You never know.
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Post by Annan on Nov 26, 2020 21:38:21 GMT -5
Listen up, Nathan, sweetie. You LIED too much, Witch...1) Annan wrote 2/20/20: Prove I cast a spell. This spell came from the mean Witch/Annan... it hasn't work.Anna wrote on 2/20/20 Lord of Darkness hear my plea.The spell below on Nathan please.I tie your fingers in a knot. You cannot type or wipe your snot. You cannot post, no not word. You cannot see, your eyes are blurred. For a year... make that a day. That Nathan cannot work or play. So mote it be! Worth a try. You never know. Obsess much, sweetie?
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