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Post by xna on Oct 10, 2020 8:07:49 GMT -5
If Buddha knew Jesus before he was born, I wonder why he is not in the old testament?
~~ Buddha didn't KNOW Jesus because he wasn't begotten, yet. The Old Testament mainly a history of the children of Israel NOT China, or India history. Buddha was NOT known to the children of Israel. Who do you think is with god in these verses?
Genesis 1:26 26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness:
Genesis 3:22 22 And the Lord God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us,
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Post by nathan on Oct 10, 2020 8:52:35 GMT -5
Who do you think is with god in these verses?
Genesis 1:26 26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness:
Genesis 3:22 22 And the Lord God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us,
That is Elohim/plural Godhead= God the Father, Christ the Lord God and the Holy Spirit are speaking to One another. Under the Old Testament only the Few people understood that and One of them is King David writing in Ps. 110:1 Father and Christ. Ps. 51 Take NOT thy Holy Spirit from me. Christ/God came down from heaven to make the Godhead knowledge clearly to His apostles in John chapters 13-17. The Jews in His days didn't and couldn't understand the relationship between God the Father and Himself part of the Godhead. They said Jesus was a blasphemer a man claimed to be God and they tried to stone Him to death according to the law of Moses.
Buddha is in God and Christ's hands now and the judgment has NOT happen, yet. I hope and pray God knows Buddha's heart and many people like him and HE be merciful to them, on the judgment day.
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Post by fixit on Oct 10, 2020 14:07:43 GMT -5
Who do you think is with god in these verses?
Genesis 1:26 26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness:
Genesis 3:22 22 And the Lord God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us,
This question is primarily linguistic, rather than strictly theological. Christians tend to read ancient scripture as if it was written from today's linguistic and cultural background, and it gets them horribly confused. The us refers to the Elohim, a grammatically plural word initially referring to rulers, since there are many rulers on earth (the ruling class, historically composed of one king and his entire royal family, along with the nobility and military leadership). Study the meaning of pluralis majestatis.
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Post by Roselyn T on Oct 10, 2020 18:30:39 GMT -5
You are STILL NOT answering my questions again! You go round and round the bush again and again.... What are the condition to be a 2x2? Can you list let me to 3 qualifications to be a 2x2? You said I am NOT a 2x2.
You went on your own go merry round of the 2x2s believe this or that! Give me 3 qualifications that most countries a person to become a 2x2, please.
Three things that 2x2s believe (IMO) 1. That the "truth" (2x2s) are the only right way, all other churches are seen as wrong and are "worldly churches. 2. That Jesus is our "Elder Brother" and NOT GOD. The Trinity doctrine is something that the Catholic church believes and is wrong. 3. To be saved you have to hear the Gospel through a Worker because they are looked at as being the same as the Apostles. Now nathan answer my question, how many 2x2s believe JC lives in Venus ? You are not a 2x2 because you don't believe what they do. I have answered your question nathan....now answer mine !
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Post by nathan on Oct 10, 2020 19:40:15 GMT -5
Three things that 2x2s believe (IMO) 1. That the "truth" (2x2s) are the only right way, all other churches are seen as wrong and are "worldly churches. 2. That Jesus is our "Elder Brother" and NOT GOD. The Trinity doctrine is something that the Catholic church believes and is wrong. 3. To be saved you have to hear the Gospel through a Worker because they are looked at as being the same as the Apostles. Now nathan answer my question, how many 2x2s believe JC lives in Venus ? You are not a 2x2 because you don't believe what they do. I have answered your question nathan....now answer mine ! *** Your list of 3 qualifications are close how you become a 2x2. I will add mine to your list. 1.You must believe workers are the true servants of God. They are called and chosen by God. 2. You must believe and adhere to Jesus 2x2 New Testament ministry and Sunday morning fellowship/worship gathering. 3. You must be baptized by the workers. Like rest are secondary! What I believe is my understanding the workers don't have to believe it, that doesn't make me NOT a 2x2. NOT all the workers are agree with one another either in different doctrines and topics either. Your thinking is NOT logical and reasonable. I believe with most of the 2x2 workers teachings/doctrines. I agree with the workers 3 qualifications and I attend the gospel meetings, Sunday morning meetings and conventions. So, how can you say I am NOT a 2x2?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2020 19:46:22 GMT -5
I have answered your question nathan ....now answer mine ! *** Your list of 3 qualifications are close how you become a 2x2. I will add mine to your list. 1.You must believe workers are the true servants of God. They are called and chosen by God. 2. You must believe and adhere to Jesus 2x2 New Testament ministry and Sunday morning fellowship/worship gathering. 3. You must be baptized by the workers. Like rest are secondary! What I believe is my understanding the workers don't have to believe it. I believe with most of the 2x2 workers teachings/doctrines. I agree with the workers 3 qualifications and I attend the gospel meetings, Sunday morning meetings and conventions. So, how can you say I am NOT a 2x2? roselyn wants to drag you down with her because she is no longer a 2x2...that is the only reason she says that
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Post by nathan on Oct 10, 2020 19:56:37 GMT -5
*** Your list of 3 qualifications are close how you become a 2x2. I will add mine to your list. 1.You must believe workers are the true servants of God. They are called and chosen by God. 2. You must believe and adhere to Jesus 2x2 New Testament ministry and Sunday morning fellowship/worship gathering. 3. You must be baptized by the workers. Like rest are secondary! What I believe is my understanding the workers don't have to believe it. I believe with most of the 2x2 workers teachings/doctrines. I agree with the workers 3 qualifications and I attend the gospel meetings, Sunday morning meetings and conventions. So, how can you say I am NOT a 2x2? roselyn wants to drag you down with her because she is no longer a 2x2...that is the only reason she says that ** Thanks, Wally... You can see the games she plays. I KNOW her agenda and those like her on TMB, they want to create a drift and barrier between me and the workers and the friends for a long time now. They pitched you against me in the past, to break the bond we have and with the workers. If I see something are NOT right and they teach false doctrines I will speak up.
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Post by Roselyn T on Oct 11, 2020 22:34:45 GMT -5
*** Your list of 3 qualifications are close how you become a 2x2. I will add mine to your list. 1.You must believe workers are the true servants of God. They are called and chosen by God. 2. You must believe and adhere to Jesus 2x2 New Testament ministry and Sunday morning fellowship/worship gathering. 3. You must be baptized by the workers. Like rest are secondary! What I believe is my understanding the workers don't have to believe it. I believe with most of the 2x2 workers teachings/doctrines. I agree with the workers 3 qualifications and I attend the gospel meetings, Sunday morning meetings and conventions. So, how can you say I am NOT a 2x2? roselyn wants to drag you down with her because she is no longer a 2x2...that is the only reason she says that So the 2x2s believe Jesus lives in Venus now do they @wally ? Do they also believe in Stranges ?
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Post by BobWilliston on Oct 11, 2020 22:36:12 GMT -5
roselyn wants to drag you down with her because she is no longer a 2x2...that is the only reason she says that So the 2x2s believe Jesus lives in Venus now do they @wally ? Do they also believe in Stranges ? Wally doesn't care what anyone believes -- as long as they are part of his tribe.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2020 22:36:24 GMT -5
roselyn wants to drag you down with her because she is no longer a 2x2...that is the only reason she says that So the 2x2s believe Jesus lives in Venus now do they @wally ? Do they also believe in Stranges ? that is not what i was addressing try and keep up....
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Post by Roselyn T on Oct 11, 2020 22:36:26 GMT -5
roselyn wants to drag you down with her because she is no longer a 2x2...that is the only reason she says that ** Thanks, Wally... You can see the games she plays. I KNOW her agenda and those like her on TMB, they want to create a drift and barrier between me and the workers and the friends for a long time now. They pitched you against me in the past, to break the bond we have and with the workers. If I see something are NOT right and they teach false doctrines I will speak up. If you have such a "bond" with the Workers nathan, why don't you speak about JC living in Venus in Sunday Morning meetings ?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2020 22:38:22 GMT -5
So the 2x2s believe Jesus lives in Venus now do they @wally ? Do they also believe in Stranges ? Wally doesn't care what anyone believes -- as long as they are part of his tribe. you must be speaking from your own beliefs again there and your own tribalism hyphenated-bob...
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Post by BobWilliston on Oct 11, 2020 22:40:29 GMT -5
Wally doesn't care what anyone believes -- as long as they are part of his tribe. you must be speaking from your own beliefs again there and your own tribalism hyphenated-bob... So what is my tribe?
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Post by Roselyn T on Oct 11, 2020 22:41:29 GMT -5
So the 2x2s believe Jesus lives in Venus now do they @wally ? Do they also believe in Stranges ? that is not what i was addressing try and keep up.... What were you addressing @wally? nathan is not a 2x2, he just likes to think he is ! Unless the F&Ws now believe in all the Venus and Stranges crap !
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2020 22:44:05 GMT -5
that is not what i was addressing try and keep up.... What were you addressing @wally ? nathan is not a 2x2, he just likes to think he is ! Unless the F&Ws now believe in all the Venus and Stranges crap ! he's more of a 2x2 than you'll ever be and that must be bugging the hell out of ya....
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Post by Roselyn T on Oct 11, 2020 22:47:50 GMT -5
What were you addressing @wally ? nathan is not a 2x2, he just likes to think he is ! Unless the F&Ws now believe in all the Venus and Stranges crap ! he's more of a 2x2 than you'll ever be and that must be bugging the hell out of ya.... 😄😄😄 you didn't answer my question @wally ! Do the F&Ws now believe JC lives on Venus now ? Why would I want to be a 2x2 @wally ? What I think is wrong is that nathan is giving the 2x2s a bad name with all the "extra crap" he believes and tries to say "one day the F&Ws will understand" !
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Post by nathan on Oct 11, 2020 23:32:20 GMT -5
he's more of a 2x2 than you'll ever be and that must be bugging the hell out of ya.... 😄😄😄 you didn't answer my question @wally ! Do the F&Ws now believe JC lives on Venus now ? Why would I want to be a 2x2 @wally ? What I think is wrong is that nathan is giving the 2x2s a bad name with all the "extra crap" he believes and tries to say "one day the F&Ws will understand" ! It's extra crap to people like you/unbeliever and doubting Thomas. I stand by my words... The Workers and the friends will see my words will come true.... Christ will come down from heaven/Venus planet to establish and Rule His Eternal kingdom on the earth with His people.
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Post by fixit on Oct 11, 2020 23:47:02 GMT -5
😄😄😄 you didn't answer my question @wally ! Do the F&Ws now believe JC lives on Venus now ? Why would I want to be a 2x2 @wally ? What I think is wrong is that nathan is giving the 2x2s a bad name with all the "extra crap" he believes and tries to say "one day the F&Ws will understand" ! It's extra crap to people like you/unbeliever and doubting Thomas. I stand by my words... The Workers and the friends will see my words will come true.... Christ will come down from heaven/Venus planet to establish and Rule His Eternal kingdom on the earth with His people.Nonsense.
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Post by nathan on Oct 11, 2020 23:50:09 GMT -5
It's extra crap to people like you/unbeliever and doubting Thomas. I stand by my words... The Workers and the friends will see my words will come true.... Christ will come down from heaven/Venus planet to establish and Rule His Eternal kingdom on the earth with His people. Nonsense. nonsense?... you might be in the same group/boat with RoseT. Curly, and Anan.... when Jesus returns.
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Post by Roselyn T on Oct 12, 2020 0:34:01 GMT -5
😄😄😄 you didn't answer my question @wally ! Do the F&Ws now believe JC lives on Venus now ? Why would I want to be a 2x2 @wally ? What I think is wrong is that nathan is giving the 2x2s a bad name with all the "extra crap" he believes and tries to say "one day the F&Ws will understand" ! It's extra crap to people like you/unbeliever and doubting Thomas. I stand by my words... The Workers and the friends will see my words will come true.... Christ will come down from heaven/Venus planet to establish and Rule His Eternal kingdom on the earth with His people. nathan thanks for proving my point ! Its all about YOU !
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Post by Annan on Oct 12, 2020 6:57:36 GMT -5
It's extra crap to people like you/unbeliever and doubting Thomas. I stand by my words... The Workers and the friends will see my words will come true.... Christ will come down from heaven/Venus planet to establish and Rule His Eternal kingdom on the earth with His people. nathan thanks for proving my point ! Its all about YOU ! Nathan would make a good cult leader.
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Post by chuck on Oct 12, 2020 7:53:35 GMT -5
I have answered your question nathan....now answer mine ! *** Your list of 3 qualifications are close how you become a 2x2. I will add mine to your list. 1.You must believe workers are the true servants of God. They are called and chosen by God. 2. You must believe and adhere to Jesus 2x2 New Testament ministry and Sunday morning fellowship/worship gathering. 3. You must be baptized by the workers. Like rest are secondary! What I believe is my understanding the workers don't have to believe it, that doesn't make me NOT a 2x2. NOT all the workers are agree with one another either in different doctrines and topics either. Your thinking is NOT logical and reasonable. I believe with most of the 2x2 workers teachings/doctrines. I agree with the workers 3 qualifications and I attend the gospel meetings, Sunday morning meetings and conventions. So, how can you say I am NOT a 2x2? All that just to be a 2x2. I thought you were exclusive. Sounds a bit like every one else claiming they are special. Hang even wally's JW's say that.
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Post by nathan on Oct 12, 2020 9:42:25 GMT -5
*** Your list of 3 qualifications are close how you become a 2x2. I will add mine to your list. 1.You must believe workers are the true servants of God. They are called and chosen by God. 2. You must believe and adhere to Jesus 2x2 New Testament ministry and Sunday morning fellowship/worship gathering. 3. You must be baptized by the workers. Like rest are secondary! What I believe is my understanding the workers don't have to believe it, that doesn't make me NOT a 2x2. NOT all the workers are agree with one another either in different doctrines and topics either. Your thinking is NOT logical and reasonable. I believe with most of the 2x2 workers teachings/doctrines. I agree with the workers 3 qualifications and I attend the gospel meetings, Sunday morning meetings and conventions. So, how can you say I am NOT a 2x2? All that just to be a 2x2. I thought you were exclusive. Sounds a bit like every one else claiming they are special. Hang even wally's JW's say that. Jesus, the apostles, and Most of the 2x2s workers and the friends are exclusive for over 120 years, only a few non-exclusive 2x2s among us, John Long, you, fixit, Prag from down under.... a few in U.S.
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Post by Grant on Oct 12, 2020 11:28:19 GMT -5
All that just to be a 2x2. I thought you were exclusive. Sounds a bit like every one else claiming they are special. Hang even wally's JW's say that. Jesus, the apostles, and Most of the 2x2s workers and the friends are exclusive for over 120 years, only a few non-exclusive 2x2s among us, John Long, you, fixit, Prag from down under.... a few in U.S.
You mean they are the only ones you know of. You obviously don't know many. I know other non exclusive 2x2s. As we read, things have changed a lot over the years. The list above is how to follow the workers, not Jesus. To be a follower of Jesus it is all about him, not about men. Even you don't believe what the workers believe and are not exclusive to the workers but believe other self appointed Bible teachers. You're often quoting from other sources.
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Post by fixit on Oct 12, 2020 11:49:21 GMT -5
What were you addressing @wally ? nathan is not a 2x2, he just likes to think he is ! Unless the F&Ws now believe in all the Venus and Stranges crap ! he's more of a 2x2 than you'll ever be and that must be bugging the hell out of ya.... You must be a confused bunch of 2x2s in the Pacific NW.
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Post by fixit on Oct 12, 2020 11:57:05 GMT -5
Jesus, the apostles, and Most of the 2x2s workers and the friends are exclusive for over 120 years, only a few non-exclusive 2x2s among us, John Long, you, fixit, Prag from down under.... a few in U.S.
You mean they are the only ones you know of. You obviously don't know many. I know other non exclusive 2x2s. As we read, things have changed a lot over the years. The list above is how to follow the workers, not Jesus. To be a follower of Jesus it is all about him, not about men. Even you don't believe what the workers believe and are not exclusive to the workers but believe other self appointed Bible teachers. You're often quoting from other sources. Yes, Nate often quotes gotquestions.org. The vast majority of W&F wouldn't go there looking for answers.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Oct 12, 2020 12:10:41 GMT -5
You mean they are the only ones you know of. You obviously don't know many. I know other non exclusive 2x2s. As we read, things have changed a lot over the years. The list above is how to follow the workers, not Jesus. To be a follower of Jesus it is all about him, not about men. Even you don't believe what the workers believe and are not exclusive to the workers but believe other self appointed Bible teachers. You're often quoting from other sources. Yes, Nate often quotes gotquestions.org. The vast majority of W&F wouldn't go there looking for answers. I have thought that gotquestions.org would have gone to Nathan to look for answers.
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Post by nathan on Oct 12, 2020 13:38:25 GMT -5
Jesus, the apostles, and Most of the 2x2s workers and the friends are exclusive for over 120 years, only a few non-exclusive 2x2s among us, John Long, you, fixit, Prag from down under.... a few in U.S.
You mean they are the only ones you know of. You obviously don't know many. I know other non exclusive 2x2s. As we read, things have changed a lot over the years. The list above is how to follow the workers, not Jesus. To be a follower of Jesus it is all about him, not about men. Even you don't believe what the workers believe and are not exclusive to the workers but believe other self appointed Bible teachers. You're often quoting from other sources. ** I have shown history of 2x2 back in 1907 most of the workers and were exclusive... John Long was the ONLY non-exclusive 2x2 worker who was excommunicated from the ministry and fellowship because he sent his 2x2 converts to join the churches of their choice. Most of the workers and friends disagree with John Long back in 1907 and it is STILL the same today among the current workers. If any worker preaches, teaches and believes in non-exclusive belief to the friends by telling them it's OK to join/attend the churches of their choice will be EXCOMMUNICATE from the ministry...TO STOP the non-exclusive belief TO Spread like VIRUS COVID-19 among the 2x2s the last 120 yrs. There have been some non-exclusive 2x2s within our fellowship, I was one of them in the beginning then God opens my eyes.
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