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Post by nathan on Oct 12, 2020 14:00:25 GMT -5
You mean they are the only ones you know of. You obviously don't know many. I know other non exclusive 2x2s. As we read, things have changed a lot over the years. The list above is how to follow the workers, not Jesus. To be a follower of Jesus it is all about him, not about men. Even you don't believe what the workers believe and are not exclusive to the workers but believe other self appointed Bible teachers. You're often quoting from other sources. Yes, Nate often quotes gotquestions.org. The vast majority of W&F wouldn't go there looking for answers. ** gotquestion.org has a good understanding on many topics and I believe many workers and the friends will agree with their interpretations which make a lot of sense. I sure have learned and gained knowkedge from them on various topics. I listen to different ones and if they have a good and better interpretation which make a lot of sense that I agree with then, I will share with others so, they too will gain some knowledge on the topics. The workers don't know and have all the answers and I don't either. I am open to read and hear what others have to say and if their interpretations make more sense than mine, I will share theirs with others.
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Post by nathan on Oct 12, 2020 14:02:59 GMT -5
You mean they are the only ones you know of. You obviously don't know many. I know other non exclusive 2x2s. As we read, things have changed a lot over the years. The list above is how to follow the workers, not Jesus. To be a follower of Jesus it is all about him, not about men. Even you don't believe what the workers believe and are not exclusive to the workers but believe other self appointed Bible teachers. You're often quoting from other sources. ** I have shown history of 2x2 back in 1907 most of the workers and were exclusive... John Long was the ONLY non-exclusive 2x2 worker who was excommunicated from the ministry and fellowship because he sent his 2x2 converts to join the churches of their choice. Most of the workers and friends disagree with John Long back in 1907 and it is STILL the same today among the current workers. If any worker preaches, teaches and believes in non-exclusive belief to the friends by telling them it's OK to join/attend the churches of their choice will be EXCOMMUNICATE from the ministry...TO STOP the non-exclusive belief TO Spread like VIRUS COVID-19 among the 2x2s the last 120 yrs. There have been some non-exclusive 2x2s within our fellowship, I was one of them in the beginning then God opens my eyes.
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Post by Annan on Oct 12, 2020 14:23:19 GMT -5
You mean they are the only ones you know of. You obviously don't know many. I know other non exclusive 2x2s. As we read, things have changed a lot over the years. The list above is how to follow the workers, not Jesus. To be a follower of Jesus it is all about him, not about men. Even you don't believe what the workers believe and are not exclusive to the workers but believe other self appointed Bible teachers. You're often quoting from other sources. Yes, Nate often quotes gotquestions.org. The vast majority of W&F wouldn't go there looking for answers. He recently quoted from a Catholic website!
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Post by nathan on Oct 12, 2020 15:17:21 GMT -5
Yes, Nate often quotes gotquestions.org. The vast majority of W&F wouldn't go there looking for answers. He recently quoted from a Catholic website! ** Yes, they have sound doctrine on the Godhead/Trinity- Father, and Holy Spirit... We must have the spirits of discernment to take the good wheat and throw away the TARES/false doctrines out of the window. Just like with the 2x2 workers doctrines today! Take and keep the good/sound doctrines and cast the bad doctrines, ideas of mens, which bring confusions and unrest in the garbage. In one ear and out of the other.
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Post by chuck on Oct 13, 2020 3:27:55 GMT -5
All that just to be a 2x2. I thought you were exclusive. Sounds a bit like every one else claiming they are special. Hang even wally's JW's say that. Jesus, the apostles, and Most of the 2x2s workers and the friends are exclusive for over 120 years, only a few non-exclusive 2x2s among us, John Long, you, fixit, Prag from down under.... a few in U.S.
Hahahaha I can't resist. "Few there be that find it". fixit
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Post by xna on Oct 13, 2020 18:03:30 GMT -5
The earliest creation myth with some physical evidence is " The Seven Tablets of Creation". The myth is recorded in stone tablets dating to 7th century BCE. "Summary of the Story The story, one of the oldest, if not the oldest in the world, concerns the birth of the gods and the creation of the universe and human beings.
In the beginning, there was only undifferentiated water swirling in chaos. Out of this swirl, the waters divided into sweet, fresh water, known as the god Apsu, and salty bitter water, the goddess Tiamat. Once differentiated, the union of these two entities gave birth to the younger gods.
These young gods, however, were extremely loud, troubling the sleep of Apsu at night and distracting him from his work by day. Upon the advice of his Vizier, Mummu, Apsu decides to kill the younger gods. Tiamat, hearing of their plan, warns her eldest son, Enki (sometimes Ea) and he puts Apsu to sleep and kills him. From Apsu's remains, Enki creates his home...."
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Post by BobWilliston on Oct 13, 2020 18:49:45 GMT -5
The earliest creation myth with some physical evidence is " The Seven Tablets of Creation". The myth is recorded in stone tablets dating to 7th century BCE. "Summary of the Story The story, one of the oldest, if not the oldest in the world, concerns the birth of the gods and the creation of the universe and human beings.
In the beginning, there was only undifferentiated water swirling in chaos. Out of this swirl, the waters divided into sweet, fresh water, known as the god Apsu, and salty bitter water, the goddess Tiamat. Once differentiated, the union of these two entities gave birth to the younger gods.
These young gods, however, were extremely loud, troubling the sleep of Apsu at night and distracting him from his work by day. Upon the advice of his Vizier, Mummu, Apsu decides to kill the younger gods. Tiamat, hearing of their plan, warns her eldest son, Enki (sometimes Ea) and he puts Apsu to sleep and kills him. From Apsu's remains, Enki creates his home...."Thanks for sharing this. Fascinating.
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Post by BobWilliston on Oct 13, 2020 19:14:19 GMT -5
The earliest creation myth with some physical evidence is " The Seven Tablets of Creation". The myth is recorded in stone tablets dating to 7th century BCE. "Summary of the Story The story, one of the oldest, if not the oldest in the world, concerns the birth of the gods and the creation of the universe and human beings.
In the beginning, there was only undifferentiated water swirling in chaos. Out of this swirl, the waters divided into sweet, fresh water, known as the god Apsu, and salty bitter water, the goddess Tiamat. Once differentiated, the union of these two entities gave birth to the younger gods.
These young gods, however, were extremely loud, troubling the sleep of Apsu at night and distracting him from his work by day. Upon the advice of his Vizier, Mummu, Apsu decides to kill the younger gods. Tiamat, hearing of their plan, warns her eldest son, Enki (sometimes Ea) and he puts Apsu to sleep and kills him. From Apsu's remains, Enki creates his home...."Thanks for sharing this. Fascinating. I've already ordered a copy.
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Post by xna on Oct 13, 2020 19:35:18 GMT -5
Thanks for sharing this. Fascinating. . . . I've already ordered a copy. I hear 1st editions are expensive. :-)
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Post by BobWilliston on Oct 13, 2020 19:42:00 GMT -5
Thanks for sharing this. Fascinating. . . . I've already ordered a copy. I hear 1st editions are expensive. :-) At Amazon I got this volume combined with other records from the same period for $30 after s&h costs were added.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Oct 13, 2020 22:13:14 GMT -5
Thanks for sharing this. Fascinating. . . . I've already ordered a copy. I hear 1st editions are expensive. :-) I'm bidding on a signed copy at the moment.
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