magpies39plus
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Post by magpies39plus on Oct 16, 2020 22:10:02 GMT -5
How many of you remember that this post was worded "WORKERS AND CSA"? I believe that Jesus called Councellor amongst many things for a reason,to give some of you a sound reason to consult a professional counceller,pastor,psychologist or psychiatrist.You obviously ingore so many that enter a post of a serious subject,and most of you go into a trance about anything other than the title of the post,CSA is a serious criminal act ant event ?? And it has and is rife as is homo/lesbian amongst those who have chosen the unatural/celebate unbiblical Ministry So workers and CSA is there has been to my knowlege and experience since 1930's. <Magpie
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on Oct 17, 2020 11:10:04 GMT -5
RIFF STILL IT NEVER STOPPED Worker’s having gay or lesbian relationships is not uncommon and not unknown . Bi as well . I swear one of these days a example which is true will escape by accident from me . It takes willpower to keep mouth shut 🤐 . I wish I could sing like a bird 🦅 But I will wait , perhaps , after my mom passes . I want her to pass peacefully . So sorry 😐 I would love to but ............. respect to mom . She is feeling a little heat already , as we move forward .
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on Oct 17, 2020 11:22:19 GMT -5
I am still helped a lot by 3 wonderful couples , 2X2 helpers . I speak with first line usually 4-5 days a week . Respect for mom allows me to . We have our moments ! But we are grateful for their help . I usually take them out for a meal once a month , till pandemic . We can find subjects to speak about . 2X2’s picked me and took me to airport , both ways after my daughter passed . I respect them for being human as well . Flowers and cards and texts after my daughter’s passing . Again I say not all 2X2’s or worker’s are bad . WE JUST DON’T DISCUSS THE CSA , WE HAVE DONE THAT . But they acknowledge it happens . We are lucky enough to have the help .
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Post by magpies39plus on Oct 17, 2020 17:58:04 GMT -5
Dear 1chinesewispers,Love you. Sad there is still so many wonderful people still so trapped in the Preacher only sects unbiblical doctrine...Magpie.
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Post by magpies39plus on Oct 22, 2020 6:06:53 GMT -5
Chinesewispers#1,These 3 following passages show that those who ignore Jesus commands,Jesus gifts to the congregations(the Body of Christ)His Church,and a verse that Paul left in his writings,which it is hard to believe that the 2x2 sect say they are a linage of Pauls teachings????Luke 22--35/38,Ephesians 4--11/12,1 Corinthians 9--5/6. You want to hear some scoffing ask a 2x2 to give you their thoughts on these verses.One said to me"not interested",one said"I'll ask a Worker,one said"why should I". They are scared to even study anything that may conflict with "Irvine's teaching when he a False Prophet,founded the 2x2's sect.....Magpie
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on Oct 22, 2020 11:37:37 GMT -5
I have never believed that the TRUTH went way back to beginning of time . It is man made not a religion of TRUTH . I do believe that it was started by Mr. Irvine . As our family had a early worker Charlie Ross . He baptized Irvine . He left the work do to the infighting . He was not a man of many words . But Charlie choose to walk away . He married and lived a quiet 🤫 life . He didn’t say much about the truth . He passed away peacefully around 1958 in the family home in South Slocan , British Columbia . I never met him , I had not hatched .
Our family is with the most help from S.R. tracing our history on Ancestry.com . We have pics of him and love letter’s Charlie wrote . We are finding skeletons and awesome things on this journey .
I have asked worker’s many times to show proof about them starting way back and they do not answer . They have no proof !
Not one of the family is a 2X2 except my mom . When she passes we have all exited the 2X2 realm finally .
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on Oct 22, 2020 12:40:41 GMT -5
Ok popped open bible . I cannot comprehend the verse’s . Found the chapters no problem . I will go to my mom for a explanation . After 78 years professing she will try to explain what is written and what it means . She dumbs it down so I can understand . Thx Rock on ! ✌️ out
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Post by magpies39plus on Oct 23, 2020 0:21:13 GMT -5
Hey!!! Dear 1chinese wisper,go toasound theologen,why would your dear Mom know?She will only hear what those who ignore Jesus command,and Pauls writings,have taught her for decades? This will not deminish her faith,hopefully in Jesus,but you need badly need to get one of those Ephesian Pastor/Teachers to go over these verses to explain them as the sect has avoided them in protecting their limited teaching and ignorance of Jesus commands and the Epistles overall.magpie
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on Oct 23, 2020 9:50:08 GMT -5
Ok can do . Where do I find one ?
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on Oct 23, 2020 11:07:05 GMT -5
Magpie , I do have to give mom credit . Even though she has professed like forever , like my dad she walked a little off the 2X2 path . She wore pants and shorts , a few swear words were not uncommon . She allowed me to wear a bikini and other different clothes , certainly not sanctioned by worker’s . My dad drank wine 🍷 sometimes , we had radio’s and stereo’s and in later years a tv . Dad didn’t hide it . They chose to make their own decisions . She does not fool around . Yep she reads her bible and knows it well . But my parents retained the ability to be human and not just follow blindly . When a worker was speaking once she disconnected the phone and said I don’t need to listen to that crap .
We really had a greater amount of freedom . My dad called worker’s out and mom stood by dad . She actually still laughs about my fathers antics with some worker’s .
They stayed human . When I was excommunicated my Grandma who professed forever , never spoke to THAT worker again . My mom didn’t either . That worker never set foot in our home again . My parents tangled with other worker’s . I still wonder why the worker’s allowed the Sunday morning meeting in our home to stay , with two kids excommunicated in the home . My dad was different . A great dad . A dad who said to me , I wish I had not brought you up as a 2X2 . He said I was different (free willed) and needed freedom . The excommunication was a turning point for my parents They knew I was broken and gutted by it . My dad was mad 😠 and bitter . But through my misdeeds they always were there beside me . But I finally had freedom .
She speaks her mind and does not follow blindly . When the sh-show in Alberta happened they didn’t turn their backs on those put out . To this day some who are still here in the world , still visit with my mom . They too kept the human side . She is thrilled when they come to her care centre . My parents kept those relationships alive regardless of the worker’s stance . My parents came very close to leaving the truth as well because of the worker’s deceptive deeds . If you asked my father a question he would give you a answer and some people didn’t like his answer . So a little of the path always . We are grateful for that . We were encouraged to use our own minds .
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on Oct 23, 2020 11:10:53 GMT -5
Some worker’s left our home spitting nails because my dad would not allow them to run our family . Yep one left steaming hot mad 😡 can’t say who cause she is still a worker . Dad would not bow down .
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Post by magpies39plus on Oct 23, 2020 16:53:26 GMT -5
1chinesewisper, Please go to your screen and listen to or read comentries on those three pieces of scripture,thanks..Magie
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Post by magpies39plus on Oct 23, 2020 17:44:49 GMT -5
You do understand the cruelty of excommunication is"you are unworthy to be go to heaven and so you have been cast into a lost eternity(HELL)" That is murdering a soul!!!! Magpie
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on Oct 23, 2020 18:35:37 GMT -5
I am ok with hell . I have had a address there for a long time . After excommunication , I really didn’t care what it meant , they offered another chance , my brother went back to the 2X2’s . I didn’t because I couldn’t take anymore sexual abuse . I really didn’t give a flying F . 2X2ism was not for me period Mr. Jack Price made that decision with no other people . My grandma never spoke to him again . I did read in the bible there must by more than 2 in a decision like that , to witness . I wore jeans to school , shorts . The only time mom and dad tried to get me into a dress was Sunday and Wednesday night . That started at age 2 time . As far as meetings , I slept through them . I had my precious grandma . Which meant , kicking my shoes off , my head in her lap while she stroked me behind my ear and I always feel asleep . Oh gosh I loved her . She treated me differently we were very close . I would ride my bike to her house and stay a few days each week after my Grandpa passed . She was so loving we had a beautiful bond . Crying I have room 666 reserved with the big red throne next 2 the bar (fully stocked) and the hot tub 🛁 it’s hot 🥵 just 2 feet from the bar . I’m down with that . I will try to be serious on next post . I think 💭 I got a answer in Ephesians .
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on Oct 23, 2020 18:43:20 GMT -5
Ephesians to me means there is more than one person participating to preach their beliefs . I cannot find the word worker’s anywhere . It does speak of many others . There were some apostles and prophets and some evangelists , pastors and teachers not JUST WORKER’S ! Many were sent out , not just worker’s . Yes or no ? The worker’s are not the end all be all . My bad 🤗 they are teachers when trying to get into another country . Apparently Nathan is not the only one to change verses to speak about .
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on Oct 23, 2020 19:54:21 GMT -5
I watched MALE WORKERS LIKE JACK PRICE SIDELINE THE GIRL IF SHE GOT PREGNANT BEFORE MARRIAGE . No consequences for the ‘boys’ . After all we are just women . The female worker’s don’t get a say . They get their orders from male workers and overseers . That is so wrong , a disgusting practice . Perhaps that is why I didn’t work in a office like professing women . I think I always separated myself and walked a different path . I chose to work with men . I worked for my dad a lot . Painting sandboxes , buildings , putting garages up . Commercial painting from a young age My brother hated it . So he would chill with mom and read . I was with my dad . That was another thing that my dad made amends to me about . He said I should have chosen you to take over our painting company instead of my brother . Cause that didn’t work out . The male worker’s don’t own the Truth . I hope they realize that by now . But I think 💭 not .
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on Oct 23, 2020 20:02:51 GMT -5
There is a very deep division between my brother and I . We don’t speak . Text but no talking . It will remain that way to our days end . I let my brother off for his deeds to me . Only because he had the accident and ended up a quadriplegic . I showed mercy to him and another . We are both adopted and a totally different breed from each other . Anyhow just rambling now so time to chill . Dark chocolate weed ! Later peeps .
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on Oct 23, 2020 20:26:46 GMT -5
I was involved in 3 murder’s per say ! It’s all good !
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Post by BobWilliston on Oct 24, 2020 1:06:27 GMT -5
Ephesians to me means there is more than one person participating to preach their beliefs . I cannot find the word worker’s anywhere . It does speak of many others . There were some apostles and prophets and some evangelists , pastors and teachers not JUST WORKER’S ! Many were sent out , not just worker’s . Yes or no ? The worker’s are not the end all be all . My bad 🤗 they are teachers when trying to get into another country . Apparently Nathan is not the only one to change verses to speak about . In one place Paul referred to two others as fellow workers with him. They were the three of them tent makers.
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Post by Grant on Oct 24, 2020 2:25:14 GMT -5
Ephesians to me means there is more than one person participating to preach their beliefs . I cannot find the word worker’s anywhere . It does speak of many others . There were some apostles and prophets and some evangelists , pastors and teachers not JUST WORKER’S ! Many were sent out , not just worker’s . Yes or no ? The worker’s are not the end all be all . My bad 🤗 they are teachers when trying to get into another country . Apparently Nathan is not the only one to change verses to speak about . In one place Paul referred to two others as fellow workers with him. They were the three of them tent makers. And the word worker is used in the phrase workers of iniquity.
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on Oct 24, 2020 7:26:58 GMT -5
Did they make the tents for convention? Or circus 🎪 Perhaps * Gotta google iniquity now .
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Post by BobWilliston on Oct 24, 2020 17:42:34 GMT -5
Did they make the tents for convention? Or circus 🎪 Perhaps * Gotta google iniquity now . I know a worker who would say yes, they did.
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on Oct 25, 2020 12:52:05 GMT -5
Now I grieve just my oldest daughter and celebrate my youngest’s sobriety . Plus I listen to my mom , because she does not share thoughts 💭 and wishes with anyone but me . I am ready should she pass . We are good !
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on Oct 25, 2020 12:57:29 GMT -5
So we live in the moment’s . Today we all will carve the pumpkin’s 🎃 we picked out yesterday . Busy schedules lmao
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Oct 25, 2020 16:35:51 GMT -5
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on Oct 25, 2020 17:05:32 GMT -5
Sad to read but no surprise . It continues and 4 everyone locked up another takes their place . Hiding behind the facade of religion . In the name of their God . We were told to revere and trust worker’s . I feared them mostly . Because I knew the evil of men already . This abuse will not stop . It remains quiet and in some countries the abuser gets to go back out and repeat it and no one is to utter their name after court As shown in 60 Minutes Australia 🇦🇺 .
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Oct 25, 2020 17:12:22 GMT -5
Sad to read but no surprise . It continues and 4 everyone locked up another takes their place . Hiding behind the facade of religion . In the name of their God . We were told to revere and trust worker’s . I feared them mostly . Because I knew the evil of men already . This abuse will not stop . It remains quiet and in some countries the abuser gets to go back out and repeat it and no one is to utter their name after court As shown in 60 Minutes Australia 🇦🇺 . The 60 minutes case is interesting for several reasons. 1..It would appear the judge knew the defendant but did not disqualify himself as sitting judge. There ought to be grounds for appeal by the prosecution on that for a start. 2.. He was convicted but only got hit with a wet bus ticket. This brought to light another complainant and I understand the police are pursuing another case against the same guy. 3.. I hear on the grape vine there may be yet another case. Second time round there will be no wet bus ticket. It will be in the slammer for him.
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on Oct 25, 2020 18:44:41 GMT -5
If that judge knew the worker or the TRUTH he should have used the recusal option . The worst part is some judges are abusers as well . There are cases of that sadly . They go unchecked and unchallenged . They believe they are high above others as a judge .
I will not be surprised if yet another worker offends , might be the same effing worker . If you don’t punish to the fullest they are allowed to & willfully just continue .
My journey is teaching me and showing things I never knew existed . There are so many agencies that work in tandem with the police . Especially with the internet predators who set up a meeting with the child . How they share the info to get to that offender is amazing . Sometimes it is a few countries that pull together to try and stop the abuse I have truly learned from this . If you think you may not get caught on the internet , ya best check twice . It goes to CPIC then to ICE team , to FBI and further agencies down the road that try to keep down the harm .
The biggest problem is that abused children are fearful to tell . They stay silent . We get that . So a lot goes unchecked . They are not always male offenders either ! If you have a chance check out pedo village in Florida . To live there you must be a convicted pedo and ya get a nice trailer . How sad 😢 is that , they are protected again insulated from the un-knowing world . The worst are those whom have AIDS that remain unknown and hidden by ........................ society !
2X2’s didn’t educate about sex/abuse . Never did our family have that discussion , Taboo ! I was taught sex-ed at school . Until I broke my parents knew nothing of the abuse . They had a really hard time talking about it . We were in uncharted territory & my dad struggled hard with it . . But the human side won and my dad shall we say went hunting for the man/child . Have those discussions with your kids . No matter how uncomfortable 😣 it is . If they know they can speak about it without fear that helps . If you suspect report it .
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