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Post by nathan on Jul 19, 2020 17:39:13 GMT -5
*** YOU did NOT answer my questions.. HOW and when did you come to God and Jesus? Which workers did you profess through, fixit? Professing is showing something that is already true. The trouble is it has been turned into something that makes it true by way of religous ritual introduced by man. If you need a worker it isn't God. Its a idol!. *** Speaking from a true 2x2 Reformer and non-exclusive believers are off the tracks. Paul wrote about confessing the Lord Jesus Christ with your life and mouth... Billy Gram at the end of each crusade to give an altar call or to give people to express in their hearts they want Jesus as their Savior. When I was Pentecostal I receive Jesus into my heart when the pastor given out altar call to come and express that I want to follow Jesus.
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Post by openingact34 on Jul 19, 2020 17:43:34 GMT -5
When Peter and John were brought before the high priest and officials, this was the message that they shared in Acts 4: "“Rulers and elders of the people! If we are being called to account today for an act of kindness shown to a man who was lame and are being asked how he was healed, then know this, you and all the people of Israel: It is by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom you crucified but whom God raised from the dead, that this man stands before you healed. Jesus is “‘the stone you builders rejected, which has become the cornerstone.’ Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to mankind by which we must be saved.”Were Peter and John "fake Christians"? Jesus said "“I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."Was Jesus a "fake Christian"? Wow you responded, I'll just put a notch in the post 😁. You understand this from the self proclaimed Chrisitanity you have been sold and now reject. No they were not fake Christians, and if you understood that the way the truth and the life was nothing to do with what proclaimed Christians have told you, you may have a different view. When you start to understand the Hebrew people you will see that what 2x2ism and many others sell is made up but not reject the simple truth that true Christianity can be shown by anyone regardless of religion and its rituals that only bring bondage which you rightfully reject. Your JW doctrines are not going to convince any Christians on this message board. We don't need to become experts on the Hebrews. Jesus makes enough clear threats with this OWN WORDS. "“I tell you, my friends,a do not be afraid of those who kill the body and after that can do no more. But I will show you whom you should fear: Fear him who, after your body has been killed, has authority to throw you into hell. Yes, I tell you, fear him." - Luke 12:4-5. Jesus is not talking about hell on earth. He clearly talks about taking the deceased and then throwing them into hell for eternal torment. The great torture monster of the universe, spreading terror and fear.
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Post by chuck on Jul 19, 2020 18:03:02 GMT -5
Wow you responded, I'll just put a notch in the post 😁. You understand this from the self proclaimed Chrisitanity you have been sold and now reject. No they were not fake Christians, and if you understood that the way the truth and the life was nothing to do with what proclaimed Christians have told you, you may have a different view. When you start to understand the Hebrew people you will see that what 2x2ism and many others sell is made up but not reject the simple truth that true Christianity can be shown by anyone regardless of religion and its rituals that only bring bondage which you rightfully reject. Your JW doctrines are not going to convince any Christians on this message board. We don't need to become experts on the Hebrews. Jesus makes enough clear threats with this OWN WORDS. "“I tell you, my friends,a do not be afraid of those who kill the body and after that can do no more. But I will show you whom you should fear: Fear him who, after your body has been killed, has authority to throw you into hell. Yes, I tell you, fear him." - Luke 12:4-5. Jesus is not talking about hell on earth. He clearly talks about taking the deceased and then throwing them into hell for eternal torment. The great torture monster of the universe, spreading terror and fear. Call me what you like. You do need to understand the Hebrew people otherwise you end up with a lie. You view of hell is warped. You are turning something that was literally on earth into something its not. Again unless you understand the Hebrew people, culture, tradition, understanding ect you only get Jesus's own words in your religion based understanding in the 21st century. That my friend is not what the scriptures are about. You want to read Jesus's words as if you were a Hebrew person in the time it was intended. When you can do that Ill take your JW snipe onboard.
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Post by chuck on Jul 19, 2020 18:07:49 GMT -5
Professing is showing something that is already true. The trouble is it has been turned into something that makes it true by way of religous ritual introduced by man. If you need a worker it isn't God. Its a idol!. *** Speaking from a true 2x2 Reformer and non-exclusive believers are off the tracks. Paul wrote about confessing the Lord Jesus Christ with your life and mouth... Billy Gram at the end of each crusade to give an altar call or to give people to express in their hearts they want Jesus as their Savior. When I was Pentecostal I receive Jesus into my heart when the pastor given out altar call to come and express that I want to follow Jesus. Nathan confessing Jesus is not what you and many others make it out to be, which is religion and religious ritual and tradition. It does not matter whether you are a Pentecostal or Atheists, anyone can display the Character of Christ with religion not in sight or mind. Stop making it harder than it really is. Your religion should confirm what is already true, not make it true. And 2x2ism does not confirm it. It tries to make that cup shiny clean for all to see!.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2020 18:19:37 GMT -5
I’m thinking of Snow ( I wonder why) really miss her posts on this board. But, I can understand why anyone would want a break from a lot of this stuff or leave here entirely.
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Post by Grant on Jul 19, 2020 20:04:03 GMT -5
Professing is showing something that is already true. The trouble is it has been turned into something that makes it true by way of religous ritual introduced by man. If you need a worker it isn't God. Its a idol!. *** Speaking from a true 2x2 Reformer and non-exclusive believers are off the tracks. Paul wrote about confessing the Lord Jesus Christ with your life and mouth... Billy Gram at the end of each crusade to give an altar call or to give people to express in their hearts they want Jesus as their Savior. When I was Pentecostal I receive Jesus into my heart when the pastor given out altar call to come and express that I want to follow Jesus. There in lies the difference Nathan. You recieved Jesus and wanted to follow him at the Pentecostal church but when we profess at meetings professing means accepting the workers as the only true servants of God and following them on their way I.e. church.
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Post by dmmichgood on Jul 19, 2020 23:47:32 GMT -5
Whatever else you want to accuse Nathan of, he is VERY strong in the "all non-Christians go straight to hell" doctrine that is so central to Christianity and expressed clearly by Jesus. You don't need to worry about that. No that is central to religion. True Christianity does not understand this made up form. Chuck, -it is "central to religion" and religion by definition what the new testament is about. You can keep trying to separate those two definitions until kingdom come but that is NOT going to make it true!
You are trying to hang onto the bible -both old testament and the new testament, and onto Jesus, -all the while denying that IS a religion however, the only way you can do that is to deny certain verses in the bible.
And actually in a way, -you are denying Jesus as the Christ! In essence you are denying the very words of Jesus!
Matthew 25:40-41
40. And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.
41. Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
I don't understand why you find it such a necessity for you to do that. It doesn't even qualify you to be a religious humanist.
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Post by chuck on Jul 20, 2020 1:02:02 GMT -5
No that is central to religion. True Christianity does not understand this made up form. Chuck, -it is "central to religion" and religion by definition what the new testament is about. You can keep trying to separate those two definitions until kingdom come but that is NOT going to make it true!
You are trying to hang onto the bible -both old testament and the new testament, and onto Jesus, -all the while denying that IS a religion however, the only way you can do that is to deny certain verses in the bible.
And actually in a way, -you are denying Jesus as the Christ! In essence you are denying the very words of Jesus!
Matthew 25:40-41
40. And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.
41. Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
I don't understand why you find it such a necessity for you to do that. It doesn't even qualify you to be a religious humanist.
No its not. The bible is full of religion and were it's proper place should lie. This does not make true Christianity religion, self proclaimed Chrisitanity is religion. I don't need to try to separate tuem because they already are. If you need religion to make Chrisitanity true then it's not Chrisitanity, its religion. If you need religion to make Christ true its not believing in Christ its religion. If you dont have a basic Hebrew knowledge all you do is read the bible in your 21st century understanding based in what religion has sold you that you now reject and can only think within those parameters for or against. Until you can grasp the Hebrew remez you will never understand how I see it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2020 1:10:18 GMT -5
Chuck, -it is "central to religion" and religion by definition what the new testament is about. You can keep trying to separate those two definitions until kingdom come but that is NOT going to make it true!
You are trying to hang onto the bible -both old testament and the new testament, and onto Jesus, -all the while denying that IS a religion however, the only way you can do that is to deny certain verses in the bible.
And actually in a way, -you are denying Jesus as the Christ! In essence you are denying the very words of Jesus!
Matthew 25:40-41
40. And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.
41. Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
I don't understand why you find it such a necessity for you to do that. It doesn't even qualify you to be a religious humanist.
No its not. The bible is full of religion and were it's proper place should lie. This does not make true Christianity religion, self proclaimed Chrisitanity is religion. I don't need to try to separate tuem because they already are. If you need religion to make Chrisitanity true then it's not Chrisitanity, its religion. If you need religion to make Christ true its not believing in Christ its religion. If you dont have a basic Hebrew knowledge all you do is read the bible in your 21st century understanding based in what religion has sold you that you now reject and can only think within those parameters for or against. Until you can grasp the Hebrew remez you will never understand how I see it. שטויות בשכל
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Post by dmmichgood on Jul 20, 2020 3:05:11 GMT -5
Chuck, -it is "central to religion" and religion by definition what the new testament is about. You can keep trying to separate those two definitions until kingdom come but that is NOT going to make it true!
You are trying to hang onto the bible -both old testament and the new testament, and onto Jesus, -all the while denying that IS a religion however, the only way you can do that is to deny certain verses in the bible.
And actually in a way, -you are denying Jesus as the Christ! In essence you are denying the very words of Jesus!
Matthew 25:40-41
40. And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.
41. Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
I don't understand why you find it such a necessity for you to do that. It doesn't even qualify you to be a religious humanist.
No its not. The bible is full of religion and were it's proper place should lie. This does not make true Christianity religion, self proclaimed Chrisitanity is religion. I don't need to try to separate tuem because they already are. If you need religion to make Chrisitanity true then it's not Chrisitanity, its religion. If you need religion to make Christ true its not believing in Christ its religion. If you dont have a basic Hebrew knowledge all you do is read the bible in your 21st century understanding based in what religion has sold you that you now reject and can only think within those parameters for or against. Until you can grasp the Hebrew remez you will never understand how I see it. Chuck,
I do know what what you are referring to .
You are talking about what is known an academic discipline called Hermeneutics which is a discipline of Philosophy..
It is method of interpretation of many different kinds of texts.
"Hermeneutics is more than interpretive principles or methods used when immediate comprehension fails and includes the art of understanding and communication."
Martin Heidegger was one such scholar.
However, from your posts , -if I understand you correctly , -you are still professing in the 2x2's (the TRUTH or The WAY) as it was called in my day. Correct?
If so, we were professing to believe the miracles of Jesus and his "resurrection" and with a heaven with him if we believe that about Jesus. This is the part I don't understand about your thinking.
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Post by chuck on Jul 20, 2020 3:28:17 GMT -5
No its not. The bible is full of religion and were it's proper place should lie. This does not make true Christianity religion, self proclaimed Chrisitanity is religion. I don't need to try to separate tuem because they already are. If you need religion to make Chrisitanity true then it's not Chrisitanity, its religion. If you need religion to make Christ true its not believing in Christ its religion. If you dont have a basic Hebrew knowledge all you do is read the bible in your 21st century understanding based in what religion has sold you that you now reject and can only think within those parameters for or against. Until you can grasp the Hebrew remez you will never understand how I see it. שטויות בשכל Just concentrate on keeping your cup clean wally. How do you know when it's clean enough?.
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Post by maryhig on Jul 20, 2020 5:03:31 GMT -5
***I don't understand this crap. Why does it matter? No one professes THROUGH anyone. They profess to follow Christ. I was there when my father was baptized. I know how it went down.
***They way you are portraying it is that there is a hierarchy. God, Jesus, and whatever worker baptized you.
***You are warped in your thinking, Nathan. I've never been a 2x2 and I want to smack you. I can only imagine what former 2x2's and current 2x2's feel like when it comes to you.
***You are so ego bound that you can't see further than your own nose. I swear I am pasting a gold star on your forehead. In your fictional Venus heaven, I'm sure there is a seat for you at your god's left hand. Jesus is on the right, correct? *** All 2x2 must profess through 2x2 workers in order to participate in the fellowship/worshiping Sunday morning gathering. If you didn't profess then you would NOT know or remember the two workers names. Jesus is NOT here on earth but inside Venus with God the Father; So, how the people are going to come to God through Jesus? The Holy Spirit is here on earth but he can't preach the gospel audible so nobody can't hear him and Coe to Christ and God. Well, that leave to Jesus the workers/apostles the great Commission Matt. 28 wouldn't it. I don't have any choice where God and Christ want me to seat... Maybe next to John the apostle who wrote the book of revelation. I enjoy that book so much, he revealed Jesus came from Inside planet of Venus Rev. 22:16. No, Jesus says that he is the bright and morning Star, not that he's in it. Revelation 22:16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.
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Post by chuck on Jul 20, 2020 7:57:40 GMT -5
No its not. The bible is full of religion and were it's proper place should lie. This does not make true Christianity religion, self proclaimed Chrisitanity is religion. I don't need to try to separate tuem because they already are. If you need religion to make Chrisitanity true then it's not Chrisitanity, its religion. If you need religion to make Christ true its not believing in Christ its religion. If you dont have a basic Hebrew knowledge all you do is read the bible in your 21st century understanding based in what religion has sold you that you now reject and can only think within those parameters for or against. Until you can grasp the Hebrew remez you will never understand how I see it. Chuck,
I do know what what you are referring to .
You are talking about what is known an academic discipline called Hermeneutics which is a discipline of Philosophy..
It is method of interpretation of many different kinds of texts.
"Hermeneutics is more than interpretive principles or methods used when immediate comprehension fails and includes the art of understanding and communication."
Martin Heidegger was one such scholar.
However, from your posts , -if I understand you correctly , -you are still professing in the 2x2's (the TRUTH or The WAY) as it was called in my day. Correct?
If so, we were professing to believe the miracles of Jesus and his "resurrection" and with a heaven with him if we believe that about Jesus. This is the part I don't understand about your thinking.Yep I'm professing. Yep I literally believed in the literal resurection and based my whole understanding/life/worship on this which included worshipping 2x2ism. I was wrong. Where do the scriptures say you must believe in the literal miracles?. If that's all it was about maybe we should worship Lazarus as well, didn't he supposedly die and come back to life?. Where did the emphasis come from you must believe in the literal ressurection to go to a literal heaven after you die and have a literal eternal life and if you dont you end up in a literal hell literally burning for ever?. Jesus does not emphasise this literally at all.
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Post by blacksheep on Jul 20, 2020 8:27:02 GMT -5
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Post by maryhig on Jul 20, 2020 10:04:44 GMT -5
Chuck,
I do know what what you are referring to .
You are talking about what is known an academic discipline called Hermeneutics which is a discipline of Philosophy..
It is method of interpretation of many different kinds of texts.
"Hermeneutics is more than interpretive principles or methods used when immediate comprehension fails and includes the art of understanding and communication."
Martin Heidegger was one such scholar.
However, from your posts , -if I understand you correctly , -you are still professing in the 2x2's (the TRUTH or The WAY) as it was called in my day. Correct?
If so, we were professing to believe the miracles of Jesus and his "resurrection" and with a heaven with him if we believe that about Jesus. This is the part I don't understand about your thinking. Yep I'm professing. Yep I literally believed in the literal resurection and based my whole understanding/life/worship on this which included worshipping 2x2ism. I was wrong. Where do the scriptures say you must believe in the literal miracles?. If that's all it was about maybe we should worship Lazarus as well, didn't he supposedly die and come back to life?. Where did the emphasis come from you must believe in the literal ressurection to go to a literal heaven after you die and have a literal eternal life and if you dont you end up in a literal hell literally burning for ever?. Jesus does not emphasise this literally at all. Yes, the resurrection is being raised from the dead through Christ by the power of the Holy Spirit. Bringing us from death to life in this lifetime, in the here and now, and those who truly follow Christ should be be dead to self, but alive in God by the power of the Spirit as we walk in the Spirit obeying the word of God as it is written in our hearts and minds. Colossians 3 If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God. 2 Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth. 3 For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God. 4 When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory. 5 Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry: 7 In the which ye also walked some time, when ye lived in them. 8But now ye also put off all these; anger, wrath, malice, blasphemy, filthy communication out of your mouth. 9Lie not one to another, seeing that ye have put off the old man with his deeds; 10And have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him ...... And that new man is Christ Jesus, just as a natural seed planted in the good ground reproduces the same flower over and over, those who have the true seed of Christ in their hearts will be in his image and bring forth his life, being dead to self and living by the will of God showing the love of God and life of Christ to others daily as they walk not in the flesh loving the ways of this world, but walk in the Spirit putting God first daily in their lives, loving God with all their heart and mind and their neighbour as themselves. And there's this Ephesians 2 And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins; 2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience: 3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others. 4 But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us, 5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;) 6 And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:
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Post by BobWilliston on Jul 20, 2020 14:08:18 GMT -5
Chuck,
I do know what what you are referring to .
You are talking about what is known an academic discipline called Hermeneutics which is a discipline of Philosophy..
It is method of interpretation of many different kinds of texts.
"Hermeneutics is more than interpretive principles or methods used when immediate comprehension fails and includes the art of understanding and communication."
Martin Heidegger was one such scholar.
However, from your posts , -if I understand you correctly , -you are still professing in the 2x2's (the TRUTH or The WAY) as it was called in my day. Correct?
If so, we were professing to believe the miracles of Jesus and his "resurrection" and with a heaven with him if we believe that about Jesus. This is the part I don't understand about your thinking. Yep I'm professing. Yep I literally believed in the literal resurection and based my whole understanding/life/worship on this which included worshipping 2x2ism. I was wrong. Where do the scriptures say you must believe in the literal miracles?. If that's all it was about maybe we should worship Lazarus as well, didn't he supposedly die and come back to life?. Where did the emphasis come from you must believe in the literal ressurection to go to a literal heaven after you die and have a literal eternal life and if you dont you end up in a literal hell literally burning for ever?. Jesus does not emphasise this literally at all. I'm intrigued. I'd like to hear what you say in Sunday meetings.
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Post by dmmichgood on Jul 20, 2020 15:04:53 GMT -5
Chuck,
I do know what what you are referring to .
You are talking about what is known an academic discipline called Hermeneutics which is a discipline of Philosophy..
It is method of interpretation of many different kinds of texts.
"Hermeneutics is more than interpretive principles or methods used when immediate comprehension fails and includes the art of understanding and communication."
Martin Heidegger was one such scholar.
However, from your posts , -if I understand you correctly , -you are still professing in the 2x2's (the TRUTH or The WAY) as it was called in my day. Correct?
If so, we were professing to believe the miracles of Jesus and his "resurrection" and with a heaven with him if we believe that about Jesus. This is the part I don't understand about your thinking. Yep I'm professing. Yep I literally believed in the literal resurection and based my whole understanding/life/worship on this which included worshipping 2x2ism. I was wrong. Where do the scriptures say you must believe in the literal miracles?. If that's all it was about maybe we should worship Lazarus as well, didn't he supposedly die and come back to life?. Where did the emphasis come from you must believe in the literal ressurection to go to a literal heaven after you die and have a literal eternal life and if you dont you end up in a literal hell literally burning for ever?. Jesus does not emphasise this literally at all. Then how do you account for these verses?
I have posted them several times now and you have not answered.Matthew 25:40-41 40. And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.
41. Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
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Post by chuck on Jul 20, 2020 18:00:57 GMT -5
Yep I'm professing. Yep I literally believed in the literal resurection and based my whole understanding/life/worship on this which included worshipping 2x2ism. I was wrong. Where do the scriptures say you must believe in the literal miracles?. If that's all it was about maybe we should worship Lazarus as well, didn't he supposedly die and come back to life?. Where did the emphasis come from you must believe in the literal ressurection to go to a literal heaven after you die and have a literal eternal life and if you dont you end up in a literal hell literally burning for ever?. Jesus does not emphasise this literally at all. Then how do you account for these verses?
I have posted them several times now and you have not answered.Matthew 25:40-41 40. And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.
41. Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
Perhaps you should look?. Jude is a good place to start. Are you going to answer any of mine, Or is it still a one way street.
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Post by chuck on Jul 20, 2020 18:08:56 GMT -5
Yep I'm professing. Yep I literally believed in the literal resurection and based my whole understanding/life/worship on this which included worshipping 2x2ism. I was wrong. Where do the scriptures say you must believe in the literal miracles?. If that's all it was about maybe we should worship Lazarus as well, didn't he supposedly die and come back to life?. Where did the emphasis come from you must believe in the literal ressurection to go to a literal heaven after you die and have a literal eternal life and if you dont you end up in a literal hell literally burning for ever?. Jesus does not emphasise this literally at all. I'm intrigued. I'd like to hear what you say in Sunday meetings. In the nicest way possible, we should stop being pharisaic religous nutjobs and live what we say we believe. I just dont think most can even grasp that concept after years of indoctrination. The covid-19 has shown how important meetings are to people's eternal goal and it's sad seeing so many drug addicts craving!.
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Post by Pragmatic on Jul 20, 2020 18:11:38 GMT -5
I think we're singing from the same hymn sheet Chuck
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Post by chuck on Jul 20, 2020 18:15:59 GMT -5
I think we're singing from the same hymn sheet Chuck Ohhhhh so you're one of them, a JW Baptist non exlcusive type that can't read the bible 😁.
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Post by nathan on Jul 20, 2020 18:38:17 GMT -5
I think we're singing from the same hymn sheet Chuck Ohhhhh so you're one of them, a JW Baptist non exlcusive type that can't read the bible 😁. *** You guys are same non-2×2 exclusive birds of the same feathers flock together. Same minds and spirits.
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Post by BobWilliston on Jul 20, 2020 18:44:06 GMT -5
I'm intrigued. I'd like to hear what you say in Sunday meetings. In the nicest way possible, we should stop being pharisaic religous nutjobs and live what we say we believe. I just dont think most can even grasp that concept after years of indoctrination. That's fine. I'd just like to know how you explain that in Sunday meeting.
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Post by Pragmatic on Jul 20, 2020 18:51:57 GMT -5
In our Sunday morning meeting, we have certainly had opinions around Lazarus not being raised from the dead, in a literal sense, but in fact being restore after ex-communication. Our bishop/elder is on board with that, and the chapters in Mark which were deleted by Clement also indicated that. (Eg; "crying out from the Tomb")
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Post by BobWilliston on Jul 20, 2020 18:55:37 GMT -5
In our Sunday morning meeting, we have certainly had opinions around Lazarus not being raised from the dead, in a literal sense, but in fact being restore after ex-communication. Our bishop/elder is on board with that, and the chapters in Mark which were deleted by Clement also indicated that. (Eg; "crying out from the Tomb") That's cool.
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Post by Roselyn T on Jul 20, 2020 19:59:31 GMT -5
Ohhhhh so you're one of them, a JW Baptist non exlcusive type that can't read the bible 😁. *** You guys are same non-2×2 exclusive birds of the same feathers flock together. Same minds and spirits. 😂😂😂😂 Coming from someone whos God is Frank Stranges !!! 😂😂😂
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Post by nathan on Jul 20, 2020 21:25:24 GMT -5
*** You guys are same non-2×2 exclusive birds of the same feathers flock together. Same minds and spirits. 😂😂😂😂 Coming from someone whos God is Frank Stranges !!! 😂😂😂 I told you many times before Frank Stranges is NOT my God but Jesus Christ is my God and Savior. why? can't you get that straight for goodness sake. Are you on the broken record mode, again?
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Post by intelchips on Jul 20, 2020 21:45:39 GMT -5
How you are fallen from heaven, O morning star, son of dawn! How you are cut down to the ground, you who laid the nations low! (Isa. 14:12)
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