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Post by ForeverFree on Aug 14, 2020 4:00:17 GMT -5
Another case in point. Like I told you the other day I've been on the board since 1992. It was called the PMB when I first came on. I haven't been on here much at all this past year and left for quite some time due to some serious health issues. I just came back on about 5 or 6 days ago, so you don't even know me!!! And I've been on since 2003 and you don't know me either.
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Post by Grant on Aug 14, 2020 4:12:36 GMT -5
Another case in point. Like I told you the other day I've been on the board since 1992. It was called the PMB when I first came on. I haven't been on here much at all this past year and left for quite some time due to some serious health issues. I just came back on about 5 or 6 days ago, so you don't even know me!!! And I've been on since 2003 and you don't know me either. If I remember correctly the PMB was not around in 1992. The email list (list serv) for exes was first. I joined it in 1996 soon after it first started. It lasted 2 or 3 years until the PMB started, maybe around 1998 or 9. Someone may have the dates but it was not around in 1992. TMB started and replaced the PMB (Professing message board) some time later. Before any of the boards started Kathy Lewis would print and send a newsletter around the world.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2020 14:04:44 GMT -5
I've had an interesting last 12 hours or so. I've had someone (not an active participant of this board) suggest that I should stop contributing. I've mused on it over the day, thinking on it from different angles and have decided that that is the best action to take. It is my turn to cut and run !! I leave with no hard feelings to any here and wish you all the best going forward.
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Post by DrPetros on Aug 14, 2020 16:04:29 GMT -5
Please point me in the direction of a TMB thread where the athiests have presented a more accurate and thorough understanding of the bible and orthodox Christian doctrine than the 'average Christian'. We don't have any average Christians or atheists on this site. It is interesting how your usual insistence on evidence appears to have miraculously disappeared for this assertion...
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Post by BobWilliston on Aug 14, 2020 16:07:30 GMT -5
We don't have any average Christians or atheists on this site. It is interesting how your usual insistence on evidence appears to have miraculously disappeared for this assertion... Sorry for the omission. Here is the reference: professing.proboards.com/
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Post by DrPetros on Aug 14, 2020 16:13:15 GMT -5
It is interesting how your usual insistence on evidence appears to have miraculously disappeared for this assertion... Sorry for the omission. Here is the reference: professing.proboards.com/I'm glad that you no longer require specific evidence to support anyone's arguments. God exists. Sufficient evidence (given your new evidential threshold): biblehub.com/interlinear/ www.bl.uk/ digi.vatlib.it/
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Post by BobWilliston on Aug 14, 2020 16:18:27 GMT -5
Depends on the question. You asked for evidence from this forum, and I remarked that we have no "average" people here. I should probably have said, for your benefit, that no professional researcher has ever studied the data on how average anyone on this forum is compared to any definition of average Christian or atheist. Perhaps you're up to the task.
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Post by DrPetros on Aug 14, 2020 16:29:00 GMT -5
Depends on the question. You asked for evidence from this forum, and I remarked that we have no "average" people here. I should probably have said, for your benefit, that no professional researcher has ever studied the data on how average anyone on this forum is compared to any definition of average Christian or atheist. Perhaps you're up to the task. I asked in response to dmmichgood who asserted the contrary: It so happens that atheists on average have more knowledge of the Bible than the average devout Christian. Who says so? We do, -because we can prove it and have done so right here on TMB.Clearly you and dmmichgood disagree over whether there are any average Christians on the board . . . or . . . the original assertion was false, and you're trying to avoid the need to present (non-existent) evidence. I note that a specific thread has yet to be referenced.
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Post by BobWilliston on Aug 14, 2020 16:36:52 GMT -5
Depends on the question. You asked for evidence from this forum, and I remarked that we have no "average" people here. I should probably have said, for your benefit, that no professional researcher has ever studied the data on how average anyone on this forum is compared to any definition of average Christian or atheist. Perhaps you're up to the task. I asked in response to dmmichgood who asserted the contrary: We do, -because we can prove it and have done so right here on TMB. Clearly you and dmmichgood disagree over whether there are any average Christians on the board . . . or . . . the original assertion was false, and you're trying to avoid the need to present (non-existent) evidence. I note that a specific thread has yet to be referenced. That probably shows that we don't agree, but it doesn't prove that either one of us is average about anything.
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Post by DrPetros on Aug 14, 2020 16:45:04 GMT -5
I asked in response to dmmichgood who asserted the contrary: Clearly you and dmmichgood disagree over whether there are any average Christians on the board . . . or . . . the original assertion was false, and you're trying to avoid the need to present (non-existent) evidence. I note that a specific thread has yet to be referenced. That probably shows that we don't agree, but it doesn't prove that either one of us is average about anything. Given that the TMB evidence presented by dmmichgood has amounted to nothing, what can you offer in support your original assertion which kicked all this off?: It so happens that atheists on average have more knowledge of the Bible than the average devout Christian.
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Post by BobWilliston on Aug 14, 2020 16:50:55 GMT -5
That probably shows that we don't agree, but it doesn't prove that either one of us is average about anything. Given that the TMB evidence presented by dmmichgood has amounted to nothing, what can you offer in support your original assertion which kicked all this off?: What can I offer in support of my opinion -- would you accept my psychiatrist's IQ score? I have already posted my source for this statement. Ask Jetmech.
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Post by dmmichgood on Aug 14, 2020 17:07:27 GMT -5
Depends on the question. You asked for evidence from this forum, and I remarked that we have no "average" people here. I should probably have said, for your benefit, that no professional researcher has ever studied the data on how average anyone on this forum is compared to any definition of average Christian or atheist. Perhaps you're up to the task. I asked in response to dmmichgood who asserted the contrary: We do, -because we can prove it and have done so right here on TMB. Clearly you and dmmichgood disagree over whether there are any average Christians on the board . . . or . . . the original assertion was false, and you're trying to avoid the need to present (non-existent) evidence. I note that a specific thread has yet to be referenced. DrPetros , -do you not understand the difference between how words are used?
Do you not understand the difference between the the way that the term "on average" is used in a statement such as "some people "on average" might have more knowledge about a subject and then the same word "average" being used when referring to an "average" person?
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Post by DrPetros on Aug 14, 2020 17:28:27 GMT -5
I asked in response to dmmichgood who asserted the contrary: Clearly you and dmmichgood disagree over whether there are any average Christians on the board . . . or . . . the original assertion was false, and you're trying to avoid the need to present (non-existent) evidence. I note that a specific thread has yet to be referenced. DrPetros , -do you not understand the difference between how words are used?
Do you not understand the difference between the the way that the term "on average" is used in a statement such as "some people "on average" might have more knowledge about a subject and then the same word "average" being used when referring to an "average" person? Stating this distinction is an irrelevance, since the same sense of the word was used throughout, and a distraction from providing the evidence to support: We do, -because we can prove it and have done so right here on TMB.
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Post by dmmichgood on Aug 14, 2020 23:17:05 GMT -5
DrPetros , -do you not understand the difference between how words are used?
Do you not understand the difference between the the way that the term "on average" is used in a statement such as "some people "on average" might have more knowledge about a subject and then the same word "average" being used when referring to an "average" person? Stating this distinction is an irrelevance, since the same sense of the word was used throughout, and a distraction from providing the evidence to support: We do, -because we can prove it and have done so right here on TMB. No,- the "distinction" is NOT an irrelevance!
They are two different uses of the word "average."
I thought you considered yourself a scholar!
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Post by plp on Aug 15, 2020 4:14:41 GMT -5
I can't comment on whether Dr Petros considers himself a scholar, but I must say I have found it interesting reading through his posts from the past and noting the number of times he has corrected or confirmed doctrine claims here. This helps keep things nice and factual and does this Board a great service.
My suggestion would be to provide the doctor with evidence of the claim. If the claim is false then that can be corrected. If the claim is true, then that can be confirmed. That way we get to facts.
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Post by jetmech on Aug 15, 2020 8:25:16 GMT -5
And I've been on since 2003 and you don't know me either. If I remember correctly the PMB was not around in 1992. The email list (list serv) for exes was first. I joined it in 1996 soon after it first started. It lasted 2 or 3 years until the PMB started, maybe around 1998 or 9. Someone may have the dates but it was not around in 1992. TMB started and replaced the PMB (Professing message board) some time later. Before any of the boards started Kathy Lewis would print and send a newsletter around the world. Whenever it was I was there, and I used to enjoy going to the chat room and watching Nathan and Greg Lee go at it every Sat night!
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Post by jetmech on Aug 15, 2020 8:25:46 GMT -5
If I remember correctly the PMB was not around in 1992. The email list (list serv) for exes was first. I joined it in 1996 soon after it first started. It lasted 2 or 3 years until the PMB started, maybe around 1998 or 9. Someone may have the dates but it was not around in 1992. TMB started and replaced the PMB (Professing message board) some time later. Before any of the boards started Kathy Lewis would print and send a newsletter around the world. Whenever it was I was there, and I used to enjoy going to the chat room and watching Nathan and Greg Lee go at it every Sat night!
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Post by dmmichgood on Aug 15, 2020 15:02:48 GMT -5
I can't comment on whether Dr Petros considers himself a scholar, but I must say I have found it interesting reading through his posts from the past and noting the number of times he has corrected or confirmed doctrine claims here. This helps keep things nice and factual and does this Board a great service. My suggestion would be to provide the doctor with evidence of the claim. If the claim is false then that can be corrected. If the claim is true, then that can be confirmed. That way we get to facts. You are right, plp.
I also sincerely believe that we need to provide facts in order to have any credibility for our position.
Not sure how long that you have been on the forum, -but my response to Petros was a lot due to his posts in the past.
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Post by DrPetros on Aug 16, 2020 9:04:13 GMT -5
Stating this distinction is an irrelevance, since the same sense of the word was used throughout, and a distraction from providing the evidence to support: No,- the "distinction" is NOT an irrelevance! They are two different uses of the word "average." I thought you considered yourself a scholar! The statement of the two senses is irrelevant to this specific discussion, since it was only ever referred to/used in the one sense.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2021 18:54:29 GMT -5
Does anyone have a link to the original 60 minutes video?
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Post by magpies39plus on Feb 25, 2021 19:19:35 GMT -5
For a week Channel 9 advertised the article quoting as it relating to, THE TRUTH CHURCH,was to be on 60 minutes. I still say don't leave you children alone with a bro/sister worker,who lives an unbiblical demanded celibate life, It is the nice ones we used to be scared of and for good reason. Magpie
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2021 19:23:31 GMT -5
Does anyone have a link to the original 60 minutes video? There has been a suppression put on it because of fresh charges placed on the perpetrator mentioned by the victims. Action taken by his defence team.
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Post by magpies39plus on Feb 25, 2021 19:25:30 GMT -5
Insedixit,ther those that digout things from the archives. I have personally have not used any,except years ago got the paper work to prove the Truck held at the Dandenong grounds was registered/licenced in the name of CHRISTIAN ASSEMBLIES IF AUSTRALIA,that was 65 years ago....Good luck Someone must be able to help you. Magpie
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