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Post by iam on Jun 23, 2020 20:11:30 GMT -5
You know, that’s interesting, DMG, my first year in the work the only dress I had was an almost sleeveless dress. What I appreciated was that no one cared! It was me myself and I that decided to conform but looking back, it wasn’t Jesus that cared either. And WHERE on God's green earth were you in the work that you were allowed to get by with that?
And I would bet my bottom dollar the next year you had changed!Haha. Yes I changed into something more nun like but to this day it still amazes me that no one seemed to notice or have a problem with it. Maybe because I got rid of it sometime during my first year in the work before anyone got it into their heads that they better take me to task over it!
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Post by chuck on Jun 23, 2020 20:52:48 GMT -5
They also move the other way Nathan, leave the 2x2's and join main stream Churches. ** Yes, people have their own reasons to leave the 2x2, some have good reasons to do so. The overseers didn't handle CSA like they should. They don't have the Godhead doctrines 100% correctly like the early days workers had preached it. The current workers do pretty good over all pictures. There are quite a few bad apples among us just like in 7 churches in the book of Revelation, and in many churches of the New Testament. We/2×2 are not perfect including the workers, this is God's work of a life to conform us into the image of Christ us through all kinds of experiences in like to humble us because of our human weakneses and sins to seek His help. To help us to forgive others when they sins against us, be kind and compssionate persons. Oh Nathan, butter wouldn't melt in your mouth!. Quick question, those who dont see it like you do, will they burn in hell?.
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Post by nathan on Jun 23, 2020 21:41:55 GMT -5
** Yes, people have their own reasons to leave the 2x2, some have good reasons to do so. The overseers didn't handle CSA like they should. They don't have the Godhead doctrines 100% correctly like the early days workers had preached it. The current workers do pretty good over all pictures. There are quite a few bad apples among us just like in 7 churches in the book of Revelation, and in many churches of the New Testament. We/2×2 are not perfect including the workers, this is God's work of a life to conform us into the image of Christ us through all kinds of experiences in like to humble us because of our human weakneses and sins to seek His help. To help us to forgive others when they sins against us, be kind and compssionate persons. Oh Nathan, butter wouldn't melt in your mouth!. Quick question, those who dont see it like you do, will they burn in hell?. According to Jesus own words Those who don't follow His New Testament doctrines will BURN in HELL. Jesus said in Matthew 7:13-27
Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: 14 because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? 17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. 19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock: and the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock. And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand: and the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.
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Post by chuck on Jun 24, 2020 0:33:28 GMT -5
Oh Nathan, butter wouldn't melt in your mouth!. Quick question, those who dont see it like you do, will they burn in hell?. According to Jesus own words Those who don't follow His New Testament doctrines will BURN in HELL. Jesus said in Matthew 7:13-27
Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: 14 because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? 17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. 19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock: and the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock. And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand: and the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.That's not what I asked you Nathan. "those who dont see it like you do, will they burn in hell?" was what I asked you.
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Post by BobWilliston on Jun 24, 2020 0:34:21 GMT -5
According to Jesus own words Those who don't follow His New Testament doctrines will BURN in HELL. Jesus said in Matthew 7:13-27
Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: 14 because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? 17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. 19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock: and the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock. And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand: and the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it. That's not what I asked you Nathan. "those who dont see it like you do, will they burn in hell?" was what I asked you. He may not have a stock answer for that question yet.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2020 0:45:25 GMT -5
According to Jesus own words Those who don't follow His New Testament doctrines will BURN in HELL. Jesus said in Matthew 7:13-27
Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: 14 because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? 17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. 19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock: and the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock. And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand: and the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it. That's not what I asked you Nathan. "those who dont see it like you do, will they burn in hell?" was what I asked you. he answered you but we will see if you can figure out what that is....
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Post by chuck on Jun 24, 2020 3:31:27 GMT -5
That's not what I asked you Nathan. "those who dont see it like you do, will they burn in hell?" was what I asked you. He may not have a stock answer for that question yet. If he can't answer it wrecks his credibility, all the claims when he tells everyone they have no idea, hes study it for years so he is right yada yada yada. If he's right it should be easy for him to answer really.
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Post by chuck on Jun 24, 2020 3:34:34 GMT -5
That's not what I asked you Nathan. "those who dont see it like you do, will they burn in hell?" was what I asked you. he answered you but we will see if you can figure out what that is.... Ha no he didn't, and like you can talk, I asked you a question half a dozen times and you won't answer because it may look like your agree with me, so your hardly in the position to be commenting on the situation without looking like a goose!.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Jun 24, 2020 4:02:22 GMT -5
He may not have a stock answer for that question yet. If he can't answer it wrecks his credibility, all the claims when he tells everyone they have no idea, hes study it for years so he is right yada yada yada. If he's right it should be easy for him to answer really. Give the boy a break, there might have been a software glitch in his copy and paste files.
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Post by chuck on Jun 24, 2020 4:10:52 GMT -5
If he can't answer it wrecks his credibility, all the claims when he tells everyone they have no idea, hes study it for years so he is right yada yada yada. If he's right it should be easy for him to answer really. Give the boy a break, there might have been a software glitch in his copy and paste files. Stop it, I'm not meant to agree with you! 😁
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2020 4:34:26 GMT -5
Chuck if you push too hard you will end up in the sin bin with me. There is plenty of room, and plenty of peace and quiet.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2020 7:08:15 GMT -5
he answered you but we will see if you can figure out what that is.... Ha no he didn't, and like you can talk, I asked you a question half a dozen times and you won't answer because it may look like your agree with me, so your hardly in the position to be commenting on the situation without looking like a goose!. i see what he said went over your head...to be expected when your far outside the loop....
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Post by chuck on Jun 24, 2020 7:56:01 GMT -5
Chuck if you push too hard you will end up in the sin bin with me. There is plenty of room, and plenty of peace and quiet. You don't have to try very hard to offend a 2x2's exclusiveness!. 😁
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Post by chuck on Jun 24, 2020 8:00:48 GMT -5
Ha no he didn't, and like you can talk, I asked you a question half a dozen times and you won't answer because it may look like your agree with me, so your hardly in the position to be commenting on the situation without looking like a goose!. i see what he said went over your head...to be expected when your far outside the loop.... I didn't ask Nathan a question about what Christ said so im unsure what your on about. Between yourself and Nathan you would make great footy players, you both have awesome sidesteps.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2020 16:00:14 GMT -5
Noun. 1. exclusiveness - tendency to associate with only a select group. clannishness, cliquishness. snobbery, snobbishness, snobbism - the trait of condescending to those of lower social status.
It is sad that there are still a few 2x2's that fit this description. Their numbers are declining because most of them are part of our generation. If you go back 100 years they were all like that, programmed by the Workers. That done their head in, they were unable to think for themselves. We know a number of younger ones who are better educated, have more common sense, can work things out for themselves. They are easy to talk to, make more sense. Those older exclusive ones, it would be better to go and talk to a palm tree, you would get a better response.
Those exclusive 2x2's had their head in the clouds, threw verses of scripture around like confetti, without having any understanding of it. They never were able to answer a question, they would have to refer it to a Worker who would also use the avoidance technique. And of course if you weren't a 2x2 they treated you like you had Covid 19.
Thank goodness it is changing, as our generation disappears, 2x2's will behave more like normal people.
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Post by iam on Jun 24, 2020 22:10:39 GMT -5
Noun. 1. exclusiveness - tendency to associate with only a select group. clannishness, cliquishness. snobbery, snobbishness, snobbism - the trait of condescending to those of lower social status. It is sad that there are still a few 2x2's that fit this description. Their numbers are declining because most of them are part of our generation. If you go back 100 years they were all like that, programmed by the Workers. That done their head in, they were unable to think for themselves. We know a number of younger ones who are better educated, have more common sense, can work things out for themselves. They are easy to talk to, make more sense. Those older exclusive ones, it would be better to go and talk to a palm tree, you would get a better response. Those exclusive 2x2's had their head in the clouds, threw verses of scripture around like confetti, without having any understanding of it. They never were able to answer a question, they would have to refer it to a Worker who would also use the avoidance technique. And of course if you weren't a 2x2 they treated you like you had Covid 19. Thank goodness it is changing, as our generation disappears, 2x2's will behave more like normal people. I really like your hopefulness
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2020 22:19:14 GMT -5
Iam we have friends in both camps. The exclusive ones are relies and friends of our vintage. They continue to shun us. But we are dropping off the perch big time. The younger ones coming through are much more generous in their thinking and will talk to the evil ones. I do think that this new version will take over, and the bad days of the WI experiment will fade into the past.
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Post by ForeverFree on Jun 25, 2020 0:48:03 GMT -5
Curious as to how long you were in the work and was led to your departure. ** I offered for the work when I was 19 yrs old in 1980, I had to wait for 7 years. I started in the work in 1994 in Washington state and again in Oregon in 1986-93. You started in 1994 and again in 1986? You had a time machine?
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Post by nathan on Jun 25, 2020 1:36:41 GMT -5
** I offered for the work when I was 19 yrs old in 1980, I had to wait for 7 years. I started in the work in 1994 in Washington state and again in Oregon in 1986-93. You started in 1994 and again in 1986? You had a time machine? To make a Long story short.... I had a family issue so, I asked God for a delay and He granted my wish. Our God is an AMAZING God, He listens to our prayers, requests and He helps to solve it.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2020 1:38:10 GMT -5
You started in 1994 and again in 1986? You had a time machine? Long story.... I had a family issue so, I asked God for a delay and He granted my wish. Our God is an AMAZING God, He listens to our prayers, requests and He helps to solve it.i think you did a typo it should read 1984 not 1994
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Post by nathan on Jun 25, 2020 1:46:37 GMT -5
To make a Long story short.... I had a family issue so, I asked God for a delay/2 years to take care of the situation from the work and He granted my wish and after I had finished the job, I started in the work again 1986-93 in Oregon. Our God is an AMAZING God, He listens to our prayers, requests and He helps to solve whatever problems we may have. i think you did a typo it should read 1984 not 1994 Thanks, Wally... Opps Sorry, for the confusion. I meant 1984.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2020 2:08:23 GMT -5
** I offered for the work when I was 19 yrs old in 1980, I had to wait for 7 years. I started in the work in 1994 in Washington state and again in Oregon in 1986-93. You started in 1994 and again in 1986? You had a time machine? Nathan has a good in with Valiant Thor. If VT is on your side you are able to achieve the impossible. Bit like having Superman for a friend. Personally I prefer Wonder Woman, better looking. Oh ye of little faith.
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Post by nathan on Jun 25, 2020 2:22:50 GMT -5
You started in 1994 and again in 1986? You had a time machine? Nathan has a good in with Valiant Thor. If VT is on your side you are able to achieve the impossible. Bit like having Superman for a friend. Personally I prefer Wonder Woman, better looking. Oh ye of little faith. I have a good connection with VT Creator and God Christ Jesus. He/Christ/God knew me before I was born on earth, He is also my Creator/Savior.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2020 2:29:57 GMT -5
Hello Nathan, how come you saw my post, you said I was going to be put on ignore. I thought I was safe, will have to be more careful.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Jun 25, 2020 2:37:22 GMT -5
Hello Nathan, how come you saw my post, you said I was going to be put on ignore. I thought I was safe, will have to be more careful. Perhaps you could type your posts in invisible ink.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2020 3:16:56 GMT -5
Curly I think most people on here would rather Nathan wrote his posts in invisible ink.
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Post by speak on Jun 25, 2020 3:29:27 GMT -5
Curly I think most people on here would rather Nathan wrote his posts in invisible ink. That might be a good idea and then you wouldn't be able to ridicule him all the time.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2020 5:02:29 GMT -5
Speak so glad that you agree that Nathan should write his posts in invisible ink. And as you say there would be nothing for us to respond to. Has to be a win, win situation.
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