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Post by nathan on Apr 10, 2020 11:29:58 GMT -5
Dan is going through a VERY difficult time at work and maybe personal life, right now. So, give the guy a break, folks. Don't pick every thing that he said a part, he is trying to sort his future and life out during the Corona Crisis as a business owner in how to pay the bills and care for his family
I'm not going through anything that everyone else isn't experiencing, but just have the responsibility of trying to save a business and a few jobs. Not everyone can seem to comprehend that some businesses could go belly-up and a lot of jobs might disappear? But I suspect they'll appreciate those who stepped-up to the plate when its all over. I don't expect people being paid not to work to grasp that its different for a business which is not being paid to close down. If the government were paying my bills, I'd shut down in a NY minute. But such is not the case.
We are in the same boat... The gov't gives most of the loan and grant money to the BIG Corp. first and the left over to the smaller businesses and many will not get it. All they can say is you are NOT qualify and there is NOT much we can do anything about it. Hang in there, Dan... There is light at the end of the tunnel.
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Post by Lee on Apr 10, 2020 11:47:18 GMT -5
Having been a business owner myself I appreciate everything you're going through Dan. In the words of Rush Limbaugh, the shut down isn't about lives versus money but lives versus lives. I was personally for a less restrictive shut down. But having cleaned many public restrooms over the years, realizing how calloused people can be about littering and so on, I know many people can't be trusted to socially distance on their own accord. People need to be faithful in the small things, realizing how their behavior affects others.
Thanks Dan, for your input here.
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Post by Lee on Apr 10, 2020 11:51:33 GMT -5
I have been sewing, doing puzzles, playing games with my husband, cooking and occasionally baking, keeping in touch through phone, text and emails with friends, thinking about people, and more sewing. Yesterday I began making face masks and cut hepa filter bags for vacuums to insert in the face mask pocket. Works like a hot... tamale. I took an early retirement and so we don't have the worries that some do who's businesses and jobs are on the line because of shutdowns...it is good to hear of government initiatives to help businesses and individuals during these times. Hoping everyone is keeping their heads above the water! I'm working on my daughter's car and other garage/shop type work, as well as cleaning and repairing my clients home in Sacramento as it is on the market now. I'm hoping to spring back with gusto into the workforce as soon as we all surface.
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Post by iam on Apr 10, 2020 11:58:31 GMT -5
No, it is not quite complete. We haven't discussed the trinity yet. My apologies. We also need some hollow jokes. Personally I don't think it's a good idea to even mention the words trinity or hollow.
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Post by iam on Apr 10, 2020 12:00:00 GMT -5
It's nonsense Nathan, and won't do you any good. Your workers would agree with me. I'm concerned about the effect this garbage has had on STR. she didn't leave because of nathan or anything nathan said...nice try though.... I have pm' d str to apologize if I have offended her.
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Post by nathan on Apr 10, 2020 12:42:41 GMT -5
My apologies. We also need some hollow jokes. Personally I don't think it's a good idea to even mention the words trinity or hollow. Yes, not a good thing to mention on hollow earth, Jesus lives in Venus planet too MUCH for their minds to take it on this main/Truth message board if they choose to engage me on the General board I will go couple rounds with fixit, curly or anyone. It seems they don't want to engage with me on the general board on these subjects. They KNOW I can't engage them here on this board, because I respect the Adm. requests.
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Post by snow on Apr 10, 2020 12:56:32 GMT -5
You'd be wrong. I do think people have to work. What I don't agree with is those who have non essential businesses that are keeping them open right now are not doing anyone any favors. No I'm not rich. I do understand that this is a hard time financially for many people. I am very thankful for those who are out there risking themselves daily to keep others fed and safe. My son is a nurse that is heading up a team of nurses testing for the virus. He's exposed all the time. So don't tell me about not understanding. What does piss me off is people that don't need to be working right now straining the system because they may be the ones infecting people at a time when we need to be flattening the curve so that our healthcare workers don't get so overworked and over tired that they have no immune systems left to fight the virus they are exposed to every day. Yep, I'm probably wrong.. But as you say, some people have to work. Its not a matter of doing others a favor, its a financial reality that removes any other choice. In any event, I'm tired of talking about myself, its a boring subject . We all do what we need to do, and ya do it the best you can. If the government orders you to stay isolated for 3 months, 6 months, or 3 years, will you be able to comply? When does the cure become worse than the disease? I agree that isn't something we can do. But to just go out there without a plan in place is a recipe in failure. I don't see any plans at the moment to get back to work in a safe manner. It is obvious that now that China is back to 'normal' that they are starting to see a rise in new cases and deaths again. So obviously we need to get back to work. But we need to do it in a way that is not going to jeopardize every attempt we've already been doing to do that.
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Post by fixit on Apr 10, 2020 14:24:24 GMT -5
I'm not going through anything that everyone else isn't experiencing, but just have the responsibility of trying to save a business and a few jobs. Not everyone can seem to comprehend that some businesses could go belly-up and a lot of jobs might disappear? But I suspect they'll appreciate those who stepped-up to the plate when its all over. I don't expect people being paid not to work to grasp that its different for a business which is not being paid to close down. If the government were paying my bills, I'd shut down in a NY minute. But such is not the case.
Dan, thanks for your input here. I feel very sorry for you and Nathan and all who are struggling with the effects of this virus. The developed world was woefully unprepared for this, yet scientists for a long time have been saying it's a matter of "not if, but when" a pandemic of this nature will strike. The world would be a better place if science, politics and religion all had their own space. In respect to the Corona Virus, politicians and religionists did not give enough heed to the scientists as soon as they needed to. With an enemy that doubles every three days time is of the essence.
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Post by ellie on Apr 10, 2020 23:32:41 GMT -5
I'm not going through anything that everyone else isn't experiencing, but just have the responsibility of trying to save a business and a few jobs. Not everyone can seem to comprehend that some businesses could go belly-up and a lot of jobs might disappear? But I suspect they'll appreciate those who stepped-up to the plate when its all over. I don't expect people being paid not to work to grasp that its different for a business which is not being paid to close down. If the government were paying my bills, I'd shut down in a NY minute. But such is not the case.
Is there anything you can do to move business or part thereof online? Many of our local businesses are struggling but I'm impressed by the way some have established websites and a strong online presence. Some of the pubs who will be hurting badly are delivering tap beer, there are lots of online music classes and even the hardware store is delivering. Virtual nails and hair haven't quite taken off yet though!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2020 23:42:47 GMT -5
I'm not going through anything that everyone else isn't experiencing, but just have the responsibility of trying to save a business and a few jobs. Not everyone can seem to comprehend that some businesses could go belly-up and a lot of jobs might disappear? But I suspect they'll appreciate those who stepped-up to the plate when its all over. I don't expect people being paid not to work to grasp that its different for a business which is not being paid to close down. If the government were paying my bills, I'd shut down in a NY minute. But such is not the case.
Is there anything you can do to move business or part thereof online? Many of our local businesses are struggling but I'm impressed by the way some have established websites and a strong online presence. Some of the pubs who will be hurting badly are delivering tap beer, there are lots of online music classes and even the hardware store is delivering. Virtual nails and hair haven't quite taken off yet though! i am wondering if @dan couldn't offer no or little contact services for his welding? business as MANY maintenance businesses are offering that now in my area such as plumbing, HVAC, Roofing, Construction, electrical etc...etc...
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Post by ellie on Apr 11, 2020 0:01:12 GMT -5
Is there anything you can do to move business or part thereof online? Many of our local businesses are struggling but I'm impressed by the way some have established websites and a strong online presence. Some of the pubs who will be hurting badly are delivering tap beer, there are lots of online music classes and even the hardware store is delivering. Virtual nails and hair haven't quite taken off yet though! i am wondering if @dan couldn't offer no or little contact services for his welding? business as MANY maintenance businesses are offering that now in my area such as plumbing, HVAC, Roofing, Construction, electrical etc...etc... I had a technician in with no close contact. We spoke from a distance and after he left I mopped the dirt walked in off the floor. Payment and a satisfaction survey was completed online.
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Post by dmmichgood on Apr 11, 2020 0:44:20 GMT -5
I didn't say anything about STR leaving the board. Just that your conspiracy filth did her a lot of damage. That is your own opinion but NOT according to STR PM to me before her departure... It's somebody filth on here that drove her away not my stuff...
STR to Nathan Mar 14, 2020 at 12:15am via mobile Quote
1) I told Snow that I didn’t hate that she was about the only one on TMB that had any humane kindness left.
I started to put yours and Wally’s name down as kind but everybody is on yours and Wally’s and my back. So, I didn’t want to get another yow yow going. So I didn’t include your names. Just wanted you to know why. Everybody hates us because we quote scriptures that bother them. They can quote anything they want but not us.
~~ Nathan: Yes, they dislike and hate us three very much because we show them the teachings of Jesus and it condemns them and they don't like to see their sins exposed in the open. Some of them, tried to get us three pitch against each others... they did a good job on me! and he got Wally and myself 5% warning from the admin. so, you be careful they will go after you next and we get banned from posting on TMB.
2) STR wrote: I know. But that might be a good thing. Atheists have taken the board over and a few of the Christians don’t see that it Satan is using them to overcome that which is of God.
~~ Nathan: All we can do our part sharing the words and teachings of Jesus/God. They can't win against His teachings! The Way the Truth and LIFE. This is Satan's kingdom and he has deceived so many to do his will without knowing it.
Nathan, -do your always post "personal messages" (PM's) that other people send you?
I thought the reason for PM's was so that we could talk to others in private.
Nathan, -does STR know you are posting her private messages on the forum?
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Post by nathan on Apr 11, 2020 1:33:58 GMT -5
That is your own opinion but NOT according to STR PM to me before her departure... It's somebody filth on here that drove her away not my stuff...
STR to Nathan Mar 14, 2020 at 12:15am via mobile Quote
1) I told Snow that I didn’t hate that she was about the only one on TMB that had any humane kindness left.
I started to put yours and Wally’s name down as kind but everybody is on yours and Wally’s and my back. So, I didn’t want to get another yow yow going. So I didn’t include your names. Just wanted you to know why. Everybody hates us because we quote scriptures that bother them. They can quote anything they want but not us.
~~ Nathan: Yes, they dislike and hate us three very much because we show them the teachings of Jesus and it condemns them and they don't like to see their sins exposed in the open. Some of them, tried to get us three pitch against each others... they did a good job on me! and he got Wally and myself 5% warning from the admin. so, you be careful they will go after you next and we get banned from posting on TMB.
2) STR wrote: I know. But that might be a good thing. Atheists have taken the board over and a few of the Christians don’t see that it Satan is using them to overcome that which is of God.
~~ Nathan: All we can do our part sharing the words and teachings of Jesus/God. They can't win against His teachings! The Way the Truth and LIFE. This is Satan's kingdom and he has deceived so many to do his will without knowing it.
Nathan, -do your always post "personal messages" (PM's) that other people send you?
I thought the reason for PM's was so that we could talk to others in private.
Nathan, -does STR know you are posting her private messages on the forum? NOT very often but sometimes I feel it is necessary to do so... I believe she doesn't mind, she can send me PM and let me know. It's good for the readers on TMB to know why, she left the TMB because many people on here care about her.
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Post by dmmichgood on Apr 11, 2020 3:57:38 GMT -5
Nathan, -do your always post "personal messages" (PM's) that other people send you?
I thought the reason for PM's was so that we could talk to others in private.
Nathan, -does STR know you are posting her private messages on the forum? NOT very often but sometimes I feel it is necessary to do so... I believe she doesn't mind, she can send me PM and let me know. It's good for the readers on TMB to know why, she left the TMB because many people on here care about her. Are you quite sure that is your reason, Nathan?
I don't suppose that STR would mind your posting her PM to you here the forum. Because after all she wasn't really saying anything new & different to you than when she was posting here herself.
It was the same thing she said about us before: Atheists have taken the board over and a few of the Christians don’t see that it Satan is using them to overcome that which is of God.
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Post by dmmichgood on Apr 11, 2020 4:55:24 GMT -5
Well good, Dan.
Nice to hear that you are finally " tired of talking about" yourself because you are right, -yes indeed, "its a boring subject," -especially so when we hear of many others with problems as well as yourself. There are 20 million people out of work in the US.
That has not happened since the Great Depression in the 1930's.
It isn't the government that is "ordering" you to stay isolated, -it's the virus! Staying isolated isn't the worse thing that can happen to us.
I wasn't so much talking about myself as I was defending my decisions by answering a few questions. People aren't "out of work", they've been ordered "not to work", that's a big difference from the depression. It was Governor Pritzker who ordered businesses closed, not a virus. Yes, there are millions out of work, but also thousands of dedicated people trying to preserve a few jobs so that a bad situation doesn't become permanent.
Not everyone has the luxury of staying home for +6 weeks, for myself playtime ended when the money ran out after 2 weeks.
I'm curious, so I'll ask you the same question that I did Snow; 'If the government orders you to stay in your house for 3 years, would you comply?'
Dan, come on! -you aren't being "curious," -you are using the fallacy of exaggeration in an attempt to discredit those of us who are trying to face the facts and understand what needs to be done to save lives as well as the economy.
Certainly it is tempting to take the line of least resistance and blame a person (Governor Pritzker) for a thing you can't see nor understand (the virus.)
It is often the first reaction that people will take, -to kill the messenger.
Just who of us do you think does have "the luxury of staying home for +6 weeks" without an income? Not my family nor anyone that I know.
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Post by dmmichgood on Apr 11, 2020 5:38:15 GMT -5
Dan, Let me quote some of your own words:… ."if you knew my 2 employee's personally, you would understand that their jobs aren't a priority, and they aren't very ambitious. Today, I told them that I may be forced to close down, and neither of them could care less."
Your attitude towards your employees comes through loud & clear from a distance and if it is coming through to me at this distance - I am sure that they can readily sense your demeaning attitude toward them.
Yet, now, -you are claiming your motive is "trying to preserve the jobs of ….. people?!"
I worked as a nurse all of my adult working life, -just as those nurses who are taking care of people with the virus right now. Nurses and other medical personal who are working now are putting their own lives & the lives of their families in jeopardy.
Some have died.
Your "don't care attitude" in regards to lock downs is NOT putting "words in your mouth" it is putting other people's lives in danger. There is no cure for the virus, there is no vaccine for the virus, -the only way were can begin to cut down the number of cases is to keep people from giving the virus to other people.
That is the only line of defense we have at this time!
Your attitude with your lack of concern and "Not Caring" about the severity of this virus and the way that it is spreading so fast is making their job that much more difficult and dangerous.
PS: As for your remark about the "extremely wealthy," not understanding your position, -what do you think my pension might be for all of those years of work as a nurse?
How about $178.25 a month? -please note: -that is a month, -NOT a week!
Well, we just see things differently. I treat my employees well, my comments here are not expressed directly to them. The fact is, they aren't ambitious and neither cared if I closed the business, so I don't see how that reflects a bad attitude on my part? I try to inspire them, I don't demean them. Have you ever tried to motivate a deadbeat? It ain't easy, in fact its impossible. And note that neither of them have ever worked more than a 20 hour week.
I don't believe that my disagreement with the lock down is putting anyone's life in danger, lots of people aren't to thrilled about that. As I mentioned in another thread, I believe mandating that everyone wear mask in public would be just as effective as isolating people for 6 weeks. They require mask in South Korea and Japan and their death rate is a fraction of what ours is. It would also prevent business closures and save the government trillions of dollars.
I've put no ones life in danger because I don't have the virus. I'm also fully cognizant of the virus and have implemented all other precautions. I do that because I do care, but what I don't care for is restricting people's freedom and essentially shutting down the country. That strategy seems extreme and the aftermath will destroy peoples lives and cause unnecessary hardships.
I'm sure you've got more money coming in each month than just your pension, otherwise being confined to your house for a couple months would strain your budget too. My bigger point was that not everyone can afford to comply with the lock down, for some its no work no eat.
Of course I have more income than that pension.
However, -my Social Security for all those years would have also been less because as a nurse and a woman my income would have been a lot less than a man's.
However being married to someone who worked in an manufacturing job which had a union, I have my husbands Social Security which is more than my own SS would have been.
Never-the-less, -I am below the income level to where I wouldn't really need to file income tax. I just do file in order to be on the safe side.
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Post by Annan on Apr 11, 2020 7:36:03 GMT -5
i am wondering if @dan couldn't offer no or little contact services for his welding? business as MANY maintenance businesses are offering that now in my area such as plumbing, HVAC, Roofing, Construction, electrical etc...etc... I had a technician in with no close contact. We spoke from a distance and after he left I mopped the dirt walked in off the floor. Payment and a satisfaction survey was completed online. We have four bathrooms, three showers, no tub. It kills me not to be able to soak my cares away. The tub is my private place to chill and do reiki. I have resorted to sitting in the shower. We plan on using our stimulus checks to put in a tub where there was once a tub but replaced by a shower. I've been holding off as I don't want people bringing the virus into my home. I'm still leery. Gotta give this some more thought.
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Post by Alan Vandermyden on Apr 11, 2020 10:29:28 GMT -5
We have been very fortunate. Jayne teaches third grade at a charter school, and her school is still paying the teachers, as they work to establish some kind of e-mail/internet learning, at least for now. I was working with the 2020 Census of Guam - This is part of the U.S. census, but we have a much longer form, with no internet option. I did some very lengthy interviews of large island households! Anyway, they paid us for the first four weeks of shutdown, but I am not sure what will happen going forward on that.
But my translation, which had been very slow (thatʻs why I took the job with the census), has been nearly overwhelming me! I am putting in several 8-12 hour days per week (much of it through the night, as my job providers are on EST), most of it Executive Orders regarding COVID-19 from one of the state governors. It feels a bit odd, translating materials which I have learned are the Executive Orders we will be receiving here on Guam not too long after I translate it for this specific state...
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Post by iam on Apr 11, 2020 11:52:11 GMT -5
Wow. I just feel so much for anyone on here that is having a tough time making ends meet. If anyone is in need of a little extra, we don't have much but we could send a little help if you pm me. Don't feel like it's a shame to ask. That's our purpose in this life to try to help anyone that really needs it. When we're hurting we sometimes come across as being insensitive but that's just a symptom, not the problem.
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Post by snow on Apr 11, 2020 12:11:20 GMT -5
I'm not going through anything that everyone else isn't experiencing, but just have the responsibility of trying to save a business and a few jobs. Not everyone can seem to comprehend that some businesses could go belly-up and a lot of jobs might disappear? But I suspect they'll appreciate those who stepped-up to the plate when its all over. I don't expect people being paid not to work to grasp that its different for a business which is not being paid to close down. If the government were paying my bills, I'd shut down in a NY minute. But such is not the case.
Is there anything you can do to move business or part thereof online? Many of our local businesses are struggling but I'm impressed by the way some have established websites and a strong online presence. Some of the pubs who will be hurting badly are delivering tap beer, there are lots of online music classes and even the hardware store is delivering. Virtual nails and hair haven't quite taken off yet though! I have seen some You tube videos posted by hairdressers lately though showing you how to cut your own hair so you don't make such a mess of it. So hey, you just never know. I cut my own bangs and I'm happy to see that according to the video I watch recently that I've been doing it right haha! The rest of it though I would never attempt. Might be time to grow it long again. Shouldn't be too hard it grows so bloody fast!
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Post by nathan on Apr 11, 2020 12:23:43 GMT -5
Wow. I just feel so much for anyone on here that is having a tough time making ends meet. If anyone is in need of a little extra, we don't have much but we could send a little help if you pm me. Don't feel like it's a shame to ask. That's our purpose in this life to try to help anyone that really needs it. When we're hurting we sometimes come across as being insensitive but that's just a symptom, not the problem. You are so kind... We will make it one way or another. Thanks, for the offer.
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Post by fixit on Apr 11, 2020 15:36:59 GMT -5
Well good, Dan.
Nice to hear that you are finally " tired of talking about" yourself because you are right, -yes indeed, "its a boring subject," -especially so when we hear of many others with problems as well as yourself. There are 20 million people out of work in the US.
That has not happened since the Great Depression in the 1930's.
It isn't the government that is "ordering" you to stay isolated, -it's the virus! Staying isolated isn't the worse thing that can happen to us.
I wasn't so much talking about myself as I was defending my decisions by answering a few questions. People aren't "out of work", they've been ordered "not to work", that's a big difference from the depression. It was Governor Pritzker who ordered businesses closed, not a virus. Yes, there are millions out of work, but also thousands of dedicated people trying to preserve a few jobs so that a bad situation doesn't become permanent. Not everyone has the luxury of staying home for +6 weeks, for myself playtime ended when the money ran out after 2 weeks.
I'm curious, so I'll ask you the same question that I did Snow; 'If the government orders you to stay in your house for 3 years, would you comply?'
If you fight a war half-heartedly if can go on a long time. Good leadership will rely the citizens around the cause and get the job done. America's biggest problem is an incompetent president in the White House: www.newyorker.com/news/letter-from-trumps-washington/the-trump-oclock-follies
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Apr 11, 2020 15:51:55 GMT -5
I had a technician in with no close contact. We spoke from a distance and after he left I mopped the dirt walked in off the floor. Payment and a satisfaction survey was completed online. We have four bathrooms, three showers, no tub. It kills me not to be able to soak my cares away. The tub is my private place to chill and do reiki. I have resorted to sitting in the shower. We plan on using our stimulus checks to put in a tub where there was once a tub but replaced by a shower. I've been holding off as I don't want people bringing the virus into my home. I'm still leery. Gotta give this some more thought. Only dirty people wash.
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Post by Dan on Apr 11, 2020 17:55:44 GMT -5
Dan, come on! -you aren't being "curious,"
Just who of us do you think does have "the luxury of staying home for +6 weeks" without an income? Not my family nor anyone that I know.
I was genuinely curious as to how long you would be willing to stay home and remain in self-isolation?
You obviously have the means to stay home since your doing it.
Well there you go... I have no pension, I have no s.s, I'm getting no aid, and have had no income for 3 weeks now. Surely you can understand that everyone isn't in the same boat financially? While I had set some money aside for a rainy day, I never anticipated rainy weeks or months ... My bad. If you fight a war half-heartedly it can go on a long time. Good leadership will rally the citizens around the cause and get the job done. America's biggest problem is an incompetent president in the White House:
I think Trump got some bad advise from the experts he surrounded himself with. Nearly all of their projections have been wrong. When they came out and advised all Americans not to wear face mask in public, I stopped listening to them.
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Post by fixit on Apr 11, 2020 21:18:52 GMT -5
I think Trump got some bad advise from the experts he surrounded himself with. Nearly all of their projections have been wrong. When they came out and advised all Americans not to wear face mask in public, I stopped listening to them. Trump surrounds himself with yes-men, so of course he will get the advice that he wants. He's a one-man-band and will go down in history as one of the worst presidents ever.
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Post by ellie on Apr 11, 2020 23:38:38 GMT -5
I had a technician in with no close contact. We spoke from a distance and after he left I mopped the dirt walked in off the floor. Payment and a satisfaction survey was completed online. We have four bathrooms, three showers, no tub. It kills me not to be able to soak my cares away. The tub is my private place to chill and do reiki. I have resorted to sitting in the shower. We plan on using our stimulus checks to put in a tub where there was once a tub but replaced by a shower. I've been holding off as I don't want people bringing the virus into my home. I'm still leery. Gotta give this some more thought. That's a lot of toilets to clean In the meantime there are portable, even inflatable tubs big enough for an adult, if you are desperate!
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Post by iam on Apr 11, 2020 23:55:20 GMT -5
[/div] Well there you go... I have no pension, I have no s.s, I'm getting no aid, and have had no income for 3 weeks now. Surely you can understand that everyone isn't in the same boat financially? While I had set some money aside for a rainy day, I never anticipated rainy weeks or months ... My bad. Do you have have to pay rent if you're legislated not to work? That doesn't seem right! I thought I remember you saying you paid some ridiculous amount of money for rent. Don't think I would be paying rent if I wasn't even allowed to work. How's that even possible?
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Post by ellie on Apr 11, 2020 23:59:55 GMT -5
We have been very fortunate. Jayne teaches third grade at a charter school, and her school is still paying the teachers, as they work to establish some kind of e-mail/internet learning, at least for now. I was working with the 2020 Census of Guam - This is part of the U.S. census, but we have a much longer form, with no internet option. I did some very lengthy interviews of large island households! Anyway, they paid us for the first four weeks of shutdown, but I am not sure what will happen going forward on that. But my translation, which had been very slow (thatʻs why I took the job with the census), has been nearly overwhelming me! I am putting in several 8-12 hour days per week (much of it through the night, as my job providers are on EST), most of it Executive Orders regarding COVID-19 from one of the state governors. It feels a bit odd, translating materials which I have learned are the Executive Orders we will be receiving here on Guam not too long after I translate it for this specific state... Yeah we are lucky too. We are down a bit on income but have jobs. I have a love-hate relationship with working from home. The environment isn't the best but the flexibility is fantastic. I do the time critical bits in the day and leave the rest to make the most of daylight hours. A side benefit is the servers are much faster outside our standard working hours.
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