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Post by nathan on Feb 8, 2020 16:53:09 GMT -5
Nathan, the little "spell" poem Annan posted in jest was nothing compared with the curses you were throwing around. I can’t blame him for being upset by a very poorly thought out jest. He was agitated and as time went on became pushed too far. Has anybody tried his shoes on? Anyone tried considering his shock coming out of a sleep and seeing someone had hexed you? Come in, folks! ** In the past, Annan said her hex worked, then she went too far! By putting her HEX/Curse on me for all to read. Yes, I know about the Witches, I was going up in Vietnam knowing about them getting their power from the DARK side. |
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Post by sharingtheriches on Feb 8, 2020 17:07:34 GMT -5
Sorry, Annan, it was a very ugly picture from the get-go. I don’t know why he didn’t block you. But he’d been involved in another bad set-to with a couple of other posters and I don’t know which led to which but his agitation was real and it was kept provoked by others. And when you argue with him about the trinity, is that not provoking him? You are no innocent. You’re so correct! |
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Post by Grant on Feb 8, 2020 17:09:24 GMT -5
I can’t blame him for being upset by a very poorly thought out jest. He was agitated and as time went on became pushed too far. Has anybody tried his shoes on? Anyone tried considering his shock coming out of a sleep and seeing someone had hexed you? Come in, folks! ** In the past, Annan said her hex worked, then she went too far! By putting her HEX/Curse on me for all to read. Yes, I know about the Witches, I was going up in Vietnam knowing about them getting their power from the DARK side. I thought you said the power of God greater? I think it's the power of the mind. |
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Post by slowtosee on Feb 8, 2020 17:14:16 GMT -5
Ok. We probably milked that one to the max already .
Just Curious , Nathan If you feel free to share , did your culture teach you that witches were real and to be feared ? Did you see hexes work , as a child in your community ? Was your family Buddhist? In what ways did the war affect you ?
No problem if too personal or whatever . Opportunity for us to learn .
Our neighbours just left for Edmonton to be with their Vietnamese family celebrating grandchild milestone being one month of age - lots of their current “culture” has been affected by the war that affected them in very personal ways . Talking to some of “the boys” that were involved in that war , and listening to their stories , left a lot of “scars” .
One vet,( from a different war ) with serious mind altering drug addictions , , shared a bit how he felt - other guys come home with visible scars and missing limbs and “hero” status etc , all that happened to me was I blew my mind and I’m a zero. Just Sad
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Post by sharingtheriches on Feb 8, 2020 17:14:31 GMT -5
Sorry, Annan, it was a very ugly picture from the get-go. I don’t know why he didn’t block you. But he’d been involved in another bad set-to with a couple of other posters and I don’t know which led to which but his agitation was real and it was kept provoked by others. And when you argue with him about the trinity, is that not provoking him? You are no innocent. Btw, I didn’t think Id argued with him over the Trinity. All I argue with him about is the Stranges stuff. And Im learning to ignore those posts. |
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Post by Annan on Feb 8, 2020 17:19:13 GMT -5
And when you argue with him about the trinity, is that not provoking him? You are no innocent. Btw, I didn’t think Id argued with him over the Trinity. All I argue with him about is the Stranges stuff. And Im learning to ignore those posts. I am obviously mistaken. My apologies. |
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Post by snow on Feb 8, 2020 17:33:17 GMT -5
Nathan, the little "spell" poem Annan posted in jest was nothing compared with the curses you were throwing around. interesting an elder defends a witch trying to cast a spell over a brother, God is watching you know... If you actually think she was doing that or even COULD do that, well all I can say is WOW! If belief in religion makes you think that anyone could actually cast a spell then that's one more good reason not to believe that kind of stuff. I would not be defending Nathan and his talk of wanting all people who don't believe in the trinity dead and that the RCC should have killed everyone that didn't believe in the trinity. He is not well and imo has lost all rational perspective. |
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Post by Annan on Feb 8, 2020 17:37:39 GMT -5
interesting an elder defends a witch trying to cast a spell over a brother, God is watching you know... If you actually think she was doing that or even COULD do that, well all I can say is WOW! If belief in religion makes you think that anyone could actually cast a spell then that's one more good reason not to believe that kind of stuff. What I don't understand is how someone's god damning a person to hell is any different than a witch casting a spell. Then again it is a mute point if god is able to defeat the witch's power/satan. |
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Post by snow on Feb 8, 2020 17:41:24 GMT -5
*** You atheists and WITCHES will find out soon or later when My God and Savior returns as KING of kings and LORD of Lords on the earth to establish His eternal kingdom with His people/believers.
The spell below on Nathan please.
I tie your fingers in a knot.
You cannot type or wipe your snot.
You cannot post, no not word.
You cannot see, your eyes are blurred.
For a year... make that a day.
That Nathan cannot work or play.
So mote it be!
Worth a try. You never know.  Nathan says it's been deleted, but it hasn't so all your talk about the Admin being upset and deleting it are just another example of you not basing what you say on reality. |
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Post by Grant on Feb 8, 2020 17:46:43 GMT -5
I can’t blame him for being upset by a very poorly thought out jest. He was agitated and as time went on became pushed too far. Has anybody tried his shoes on? Anyone tried considering his shock coming out of a sleep and seeing someone had hexed you? Come in, folks! ** In the past, Annan said her hex worked, then she went too far! By putting her HEX/Curse on me for all to read. Yes, I know about the Witches, I was going up in Vietnam knowing about them getting their power from the DARK side. A gentle reminder Nathan, maybe you should stop condemning people to hell and let God do the judging. |
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Post by snow on Feb 8, 2020 17:46:46 GMT -5
If you actually think she was doing that or even COULD do that, well all I can say is WOW! If belief in religion makes you think that anyone could actually cast a spell then that's one more good reason not to believe that kind of stuff. What I don't understand is how someone's god damning a person to hell is any different than a witch casting a spell. Then again it is a mute point if god is able to defeat the witch's power/satan. It's actually worse, because they actually believe in hell. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2020 17:47:20 GMT -5
interesting an elder defends a witch trying to cast a spell over a brother, God is watching you know... If you actually think she was doing that or even COULD do that, well all I can say is WOW! If belief in religion makes you think that anyone could actually cast a spell then that's one more good reason not to believe that kind of stuff. I would not be defending Nathan and his talk of wanting all people who don't believe in the trinity dead and that the RCC should have killed everyone that didn't believe in the trinity. He is not well and imo has lost all rational perspective. the bible clearly does not favor witches and they do exist the workers have had run ins with them before...yes what nathan said was over the line but he didn't specifically name anyone on tmb as a target, anaan did... |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2020 17:49:09 GMT -5
Lord of Darkness hear my plea.
The spell below on Nathan please.
I tie your fingers in a knot.
You cannot type or wipe your snot.
You cannot post, no not word.
You cannot see, your eyes are blurred.
For a year... make that a day.
That Nathan cannot work or play.
So mote it be!
Worth a try. You never know. Nathan says it's been deleted, but it hasn't so all your talk about the Admin being upset and deleting it are just another example of you not basing what you say on reality. i believe hes talking about an earlier threat given by anaan on a different thread... |
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Post by slowtosee on Feb 8, 2020 17:50:19 GMT -5
If you actually think she was doing that or even COULD do that, well all I can say is WOW! If belief in religion makes you think that anyone could actually cast a spell then that's one more good reason not to believe that kind of stuff. What I don't understand is how someone's god damning a person to hell is any different than a witch casting a spell. Then again it is a mute point if god is able to defeat the witch's power/satan. Score is tied - one one . 2nd period starts after short intermission. Looks like fairly even match today , with overtime likely . m.youtube.com/watch?v=YS3GQverRiQ Alvin |
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Post by snow on Feb 8, 2020 17:52:53 GMT -5
If you actually think she was doing that or even COULD do that, well all I can say is WOW! If belief in religion makes you think that anyone could actually cast a spell then that's one more good reason not to believe that kind of stuff. I would not be defending Nathan and his talk of wanting all people who don't believe in the trinity dead and that the RCC should have killed everyone that didn't believe in the trinity. He is not well and imo has lost all rational perspective. the bible clearly does not favor witches and they do exist the workers have had run ins with them before...yes what nathan said was over the line but he didn't specifically name anyone on tmb as a target, anaan did... And she has owned up to that. Nathan on the other hand has not and he didn't need to name anyone, he included everyone that didn't believe in the trinity. No exclusions. He has lost it and that is dangerous. He's been talking like this for months. Did they actually delete anything or is it just Nathan saying they did? Has anyone actually gone and looked to see if it's not just Nathan saying they did hoping no one would actually check? There are only people that claim to be witches. They do not have any power other people. If people believe they have power they can think any bad luck was the cause of the hex instead of life just happening as it will. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2020 17:58:41 GMT -5
the bible clearly does not favor witches and they do exist the workers have had run ins with them before...yes what nathan said was over the line but he didn't specifically name anyone on tmb as a target, anaan did... And she has owned up to that. Nathan on the other hand has not and he didn't need to name anyone, he included everyone that didn't believe in the trinity. No exclusions. He has lost it and that is dangerous. He's been talking like this for months. Did they actually delete anything or is it just Nathan saying they did? Has anyone actually gone and looked to see if it's not just Nathan saying they did hoping no one would actually check? correct me if i am wrong but nathan was talking about the PAST and said the RCC should have killed them then in the PAST he didn't lay that on anyone present...its still over the line though... |
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Post by nathan on Feb 8, 2020 18:05:04 GMT -5
** In the past, Annan said her hex worked, then she went too far! By putting her HEX/Curse on me for all to read. Yes, I know about the Witches, I was going up in Vietnam knowing about them getting their power from the DARK side. I thought you said the power of God greater? I think it's the power of the mind.
I was demon-possessed so I knew what Satan and the fallen angels are capable of with their natural super power God has given them to help Him to keep the Universe in checks and balance.
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Post by slowtosee on Feb 8, 2020 18:06:47 GMT -5
the bible clearly does not favor witches and they do exist the workers have had run ins with them before...yes what nathan said was over the line but he didn't specifically name anyone on tmb as a target, anaan did... And she has owned up to that. Nathan on the other hand has not and he didn't need to name anyone, he included everyone that didn't believe in the trinity. No exclusions. He has lost it and that is dangerous. He's been talking like this for months. Did they actually delete anything or is it just Nathan saying they did? Has anyone actually gone and looked to see if it's not just Nathan saying they did hoping no one would actually check? There are only people that claim to be witches. They do not have any power other people. If people believe they have power they can think any bad luck was the cause of the hex instead of life just happening as it will. In fairness , Annan , has openly claimed , previously , to have power over people , using it in a positive way , to those who have “faith “ , and I think you mentioned you had also tried it , snow ? Annan testifies to believe in “ witchcraft “ and it works for her ,and is not ashamed to proclaim it. No religion involved to shift “ blame “ or “credit “ to . Just is Alvin |
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Post by Grant on Feb 8, 2020 18:15:55 GMT -5
the bible clearly does not favor witches and they do exist the workers have had run ins with them before...yes what nathan said was over the line but he didn't specifically name anyone on tmb as a target, anaan did... And she has owned up to that. Nathan on the other hand has not and he didn't need to name anyone, he included everyone that didn't believe in the trinity. No exclusions. He has lost it and that is dangerous. He's been talking like this for months. Did they actually delete anything or is it just Nathan saying they did? Has anyone actually gone and looked to see if it's not just Nathan saying they did hoping no one would actually check? There are only people that claim to be witches. They do not have any power other people. If people believe they have power they can think any bad luck was the cause of the hex instead of life just happening as it will. It may have power over some who believe in the supernatural (such as good verses evil) but my thinking is should one entity have have power over the other if we believe our power is greater? What about those who have power to lift things off a table? What's happening there? The mind is a powerful thing which is another factor in all beliefs and non beliefs. Decerning which is actually supernatural and which is just our own mind playing tricks on us. I believe in the supernatural as there are many things which cannot be explained. Call it God in the gaps (and non gaps) I'm fine with that. |
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Post by snow on Feb 8, 2020 18:19:00 GMT -5
And she has owned up to that. Nathan on the other hand has not and he didn't need to name anyone, he included everyone that didn't believe in the trinity. No exclusions. He has lost it and that is dangerous. He's been talking like this for months. Did they actually delete anything or is it just Nathan saying they did? Has anyone actually gone and looked to see if it's not just Nathan saying they did hoping no one would actually check? correct me if i am wrong but nathan was talking about the PAST and said the RCC should have killed them then in the PAST he didn't lay that on anyone present...its still over the line though... I just went back over it all and I believe you're right. He never directly threatened current day members of the 2x2 but he did state that he wished that all the non trinity backers had been killed so there wasn't any in today's 2x2's. He came close with this though. Maryhig asked him if he would want her hanged or murdered and he replied, yes if you or anyone passes on false teachings to other and to corrupt people minds with Anti-christ teachings. He also quoted parts of the bible where he says that god orders witches killed. Just because it's a bible quote does not make it any less of a threat. In the context of what he's been saying, it's evident that if he thought he could get away with it he would. Instead he reverts back to having Christ kill everyone.
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16 hours ago nathan said:
Let the RCC killed them all and let God sort out in heaven... then we would NOT have anti-Trinity 2x2s and Jesus is NOT God among us! the last 75 yrs.
16 hours ago maryhig said:
You sound like the Pharisees who handed Jesus over to be crucified. They were willing to hand him over, so blood wouldn't be on their hands. But Jesus said, those who have handed me over to you have committed the greater sin!
Imagine wanting others to do something to people that you have in your heart! Imagine even wanting people to be killed because they don't believe as you do! I can't believe how hard your are. And the way you believe is far from Jesus.
So would want me to be hanged or murdered in some sordid way?
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Yes, if you or anyone passes on false teachings to others and to corrupt people minds with anti-Christ teachings. I will let God do the hanging and murdering like He will do with the false prophets and teachers in Rev. 19:20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone. |
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Post by snow on Feb 8, 2020 18:22:24 GMT -5
And she has owned up to that. Nathan on the other hand has not and he didn't need to name anyone, he included everyone that didn't believe in the trinity. No exclusions. He has lost it and that is dangerous. He's been talking like this for months. Did they actually delete anything or is it just Nathan saying they did? Has anyone actually gone and looked to see if it's not just Nathan saying they did hoping no one would actually check? There are only people that claim to be witches. They do not have any power other people. If people believe they have power they can think any bad luck was the cause of the hex instead of life just happening as it will. In fairness , Annan , has openly claimed , previously , to have power over people , using it in a positive way , to those who have “faith “ , and I think you mentioned you had also tried it , snow ? Annan testifies to believe in “ witchcraft “ and it works for her ,and is not ashamed to proclaim it. No religion involved to shift “ blame “ or “credit “ to . Just is Alvin Tried what slowtosee. She practices healing energy which is not witchcraft. They teach it in nursing school. I think it works only if someone believes it does because the mind can help diminish pain etc. I use biofeedback which I was taught in a pain clinic, which clearly is not witchcraft and measurable. They hook you up to a machine that displays your vitals and then you are supposed to control pulse, blood pressure etc. just using your mind. And, I could do that. |
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Post by snow on Feb 8, 2020 18:26:39 GMT -5
And she has owned up to that. Nathan on the other hand has not and he didn't need to name anyone, he included everyone that didn't believe in the trinity. No exclusions. He has lost it and that is dangerous. He's been talking like this for months. Did they actually delete anything or is it just Nathan saying they did? Has anyone actually gone and looked to see if it's not just Nathan saying they did hoping no one would actually check? There are only people that claim to be witches. They do not have any power other people. If people believe they have power they can think any bad luck was the cause of the hex instead of life just happening as it will. It may have power over some who believe in the supernatural (such as good verses evil) but my thinking is should one entity have have power over the other if we believe our power is greater? What about those who have power to lift things off a table? What's happening there? The mind is a powerful thing which is another factor in all beliefs and non beliefs. Decerning which is actually supernatural and which is just our own mind playing tricks on us. I believe in the supernatural as there are many things which cannot be explained. Call it God in the gaps (and non gaps) I'm fine with that. I don't believe in the supernatural, but I do agree our minds are powerful. If people could actually lift things off the table they would be rich. There has been a standing offer of 1 million to anyone that can prove they can do something like that. Many tricks of the trade are used to do things that appear supernatural until you're shown how it's actually done. Houdini could do some amazing things but he also tried to expose the con artists that claimed to have supernatural powers to con people by showing how it could be done. |
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Post by slowtosee on Feb 8, 2020 18:28:57 GMT -5
I must have misunderstood , again, some previous posts ,where Annan offered her help to you , doing “it” online . Sorry
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Post by sharingtheriches on Feb 8, 2020 18:35:38 GMT -5
interesting an elder defends a witch trying to cast a spell over a brother, God is watching you know... If you actually think she was doing that or even COULD do that, well all I can say is WOW! If belief in religion makes you think that anyone could actually cast a spell then that's one more good reason not to believe that kind of stuff. I would not be defending Nathan and his talk of wanting all people who don't believe in the trinity dead and that the RCC should have killed everyone that didn't believe in the trinity. He is not well and imo has lost all rational perspective. Yes, Snow you’ve got it. Continual baiting elsewhere just overcame things. I don’t think the normal Nathan wants anyone dead because he’s said more then once that there’s always time to learn. |
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Post by sharingtheriches on Feb 8, 2020 18:42:36 GMT -5
I thought you said the power of God greater? I think it's the power of the mind.
I was demon-possessed so I knew what Satan and the fallen angels are capable of with their natural super power God has given them to help Him to keep the Universe in checks and balance.
We have to remember that as time gets closer to the drawing end of time, Satan is going to get more fierce, stronger and more evil and sometimes people unwittingly become his instruments to do just that. That’s why the seven year tribulation is going to be troubles and trials and crises after crises rapidly because time is shortening very fast in Satan. He knows he’ll face a bottomless pit for a millennium. So he’s out to revenge himself against God all he can do and we humans are just pawns in his plots. |
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Post by nathan on Feb 8, 2020 19:08:45 GMT -5
If you actually think she was doing that or even COULD do that, well all I can say is WOW! If belief in religion makes you think that anyone could actually cast a spell then that's one more good reason not to believe that kind of stuff. I would not be defending Nathan and his talk of wanting all people who don't believe in the trinity dead and that the RCC should have killed everyone that didn't believe in the trinity. He is not well and imo has lost all rational perspective. Yes, Snow you’ve got it. Continual baiting elsewhere just overcame things. I don’t think the normal Nathan wants anyone dead because he’s said more then once that there’s always time to learn. ** I am a very kind person, some people on here like to push my buttons, like they did with others. You know what that is like Str, they put you through the ringer. They twist what you write and take things out of context. Thanks, to Wally and you for jumping in to show them what I meant. |
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Post by snow on Feb 8, 2020 19:08:49 GMT -5
I must have misunderstood , again, some previous posts ,where Annan offered her help to you , doing “it” online . Sorry Alvin I think I remember what you're referring to. I said I use biofeedback for pain control when I have taken all my meds and it's still out of control. She practices Reiki and offered to try and teach me that. I answered that at the beginning of my journey of trying to control my pain I went to a Reiki healer to see if it would help. Reiki is one of a few healing energy techniques but it's the only one that uses Masters to work with. Therapeutic Touch is taught in some nursing schools. There is also a method called Healing Touch and one called Quantum Touch. I tried all 4 of them years ago trying to find something that might work so I didn't need to take so many pain medications. I found that the biofeedback that I was taught in the pain clinic worked the best because it showed me results that I could see. With practice I was able to change things in my body like pulse, blood pressure levels etc. Mostly it's a relaxation technique and why it helps is that once you relax the muscles a bit they aren't as painful. Pain tenses us up. Relaxing helps diminish some of that. Doesn't take it away and it doesn't cure anything, just makes it more bearable. |
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Post by chuck on Feb 8, 2020 20:03:35 GMT -5
Colossians 1 Refutes everything you just said. More word salad. I would appreciate it if you quoted the relevant passages and gave your own understanding of what they mean, when you are making such retorts without commitment. Otherwise your statements will be regarded as mere attempts at distracting from the truth. Seems others understood what I said. You know I believe in the Deity of Christ. You can read Colossians 1. I dont know what more there is to say?. If you want me to pick a verse these 2 are pretty much in your face statements by Paul. Colossians 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:1:17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist. |
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