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Post by Roselyn T on Feb 8, 2020 1:23:03 GMT -5
Exactly you are a minority within your church! And why just say it here, why not say it to the workers and the friends and elders that you have fellowship with in your everyday life and at conventions? Nathan, do you sit though conventions and meetings etc. when they are preaching that Jesus isn't God, whilst the whole time you think what they are saying is antichrist and blasphemy? Do you realise how bad had is?
The younger generation of friends and workers will DROP these false anti-Christ and Jesus is NOT God like EBOLA Virus and it will be forgotten as the worse teaching that these overseers and senior workers had taught the friends the last 75 years, as false teachers!
One of these days, I might walk out of their gospel meetings or convention while the workers are speaking! a sign of my protest to them for believing/teaching the friends, Jesus is NOT God or the Trinity is heresy and devils doctrine.
I wish the friends who believe in the Trinity and Jesus God would walk out of gospel meetings when they hear the workers preach Jesus is NOT God and the Trinity is heresy and the devils doctrine!
Stop kidding yourself nathan !! Most of the younger generations have been B&R in the 2x2s and know what the 2x2s think of the Trinity doctrine. If they do start to question they move on to other churches. Wow you really are full of your own self importance !! Do you really think the Workers would care if you walk out if a meeting ? I am sure most are aware of your "out there" views already ! |
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Post by nathan on Feb 8, 2020 1:23:31 GMT -5
Exactly you are a minority within your church! And why just say it here, why not say it to the workers and the friends and elders that you have fellowship with in your everyday life and at conventions? Nathan, do you sit though conventions and meetings etc. when they are preaching that Jesus isn't God, whilst the whole time you think what they are saying is antichrist and blasphemy? Do you realise how bad had is?
The younger generation of friends and workers will DROP these false anti-Christ and Jesus is NOT God like EBOLA Virus and it will be forgotten as the worse teaching that these overseers and senior workers had taught the friends the last 75 years, as false teachers!
One of these days, I might walk out of their gospel meetings or convention while the workers are speaking! a sign of my protest to them for believing/teaching the friends, Jesus is NOT God or the Trinity is heresy and devils doctrine.
I wish the friends who believe in the Trinity and Jesus God would walk out of gospel meetings when they hear the workers preach Jesus is NOT God and the Trinity is heresy and the devils doctrine!
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Post by maryhig on Feb 8, 2020 1:25:00 GMT -5
Maybe instead of walking out you should speak up! I know that if I believed so fervently as you do, I couldn't sit there and hold my peace if I thought what they were saying was antichrist and blasphemy. Do you realise how bad that is? That is hypocritical! Although, I agree with them, they are speaking the truth!
Yet you still sit though the meetings when they teach that Jesus is not God and that it's a doctrine of the devil and you don't say anything? Do you tell all those elders, workers and friends the way you believe like you do on here? And do you tell them that they are anti-christ and blaspheming if they don't believe as you do? |
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Post by nathan on Feb 8, 2020 1:26:57 GMT -5
By their fruits you will know them. Exactly. A doctrine that generates hostility, quarreling, jealousy, outbursts of anger, dissension and division is not of God. Have you ever heard of non-trinitarians burning their fellow Christians at the stake?
HOW in the world did we allow these anti-Trinity 2x2 become overseers and church elders? |
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Post by maryhig on Feb 8, 2020 1:27:05 GMT -5
Can I respectfully suggest you go and pray about this Nathan? Your anger and hostility will end badly for you.
I can't believe that you speak like this yet still attend meetings where they preach it! I'm sorry Nathan but you are really wrong in doing so! |
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Post by Roselyn T on Feb 8, 2020 1:27:27 GMT -5
Maybe instead of walking out you should speak up! I know that if I believed so fervently as you do, I couldn't sit there and hold my peace if I thought what they were saying was antichrist and blasphemy. Do you realise how bad that is? That is hypocritical! Although, I agree with them, they are speaking the truth!
But you wouldn't have used the term "trinity" would you nathan !! Did tge Workers who agreed with you tell you they did ...or did you think that because the "nodded their head" they agreed with you ? |
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Post by nathan on Feb 8, 2020 1:27:51 GMT -5
I did speak up! while the workers sat there in the Sunday morning meetings... Some of the workers agree with me. I have been sharing Jesus is Christ/Yahweh in the Old Testament for almost 20 yrs on TMB. This is what Leo Stancliff a 2x2 senior worker taught us on the island of Guam in 1978-80.
Yet you still sit though the meetings when they teach that Jesus is not God and that it's a doctrine of the devil and you don't say anything? Do you tell all those elders, workers and friends the way you believe like you do on here? And do you tell them that they are anti-christ and blaspheming if they don't believe as you do? |
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Post by maryhig on Feb 8, 2020 1:28:43 GMT -5
Exactly. A doctrine that generates hostility, quarreling, jealousy, outbursts of anger, dissension and division is not of God. Have you ever heard of non-trinitarians burning their fellow Christians at the stake?
HOW in the world did we allow these anti-Trinity 2x2 become overseers and church elders?If they had killed them all? Have you heard yourself? That's disgusting! And that is not the way of Jesus! |
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Post by Roselyn T on Feb 8, 2020 1:29:27 GMT -5
I did speak up! while the workers sat there in the Sunday morning meetings... Some of the workers agree with me. I have been sharing Jesus is Christ/Yahweh in the Old Testament for almost 20 yrs on TMB. This is what Leo Stancliff a 2x2 senior worker taught us on the island of Guam in 1978-80.
But you wouldn't have used the term "trinity" would you nathan !! Did tge Workers who agreed with you tell you they did ...or did you think that because the "nodded their head" they agreed with you ? |
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Post by maryhig on Feb 8, 2020 1:30:17 GMT -5
Yet you still sit though the meetings when they teach that Jesus is not God and that it's a doctrine of the devil and you don't say anything? Do you tell all those elders, workers and friends the way you believe like you do on here? And do you tell them that they are anti-christ and blaspheming if they don't believe as you do? I thought so, maybe you should tell them that you believe that they should be hanged or whatever other sordid death you have in mind for them because they believe that Jesus is not God. I'm shocked at how hard you have become Nathan! |
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Post by nathan on Feb 8, 2020 1:30:51 GMT -5
MY anger is how in the world DID the friends and workers allow these anti-Trinity and Jesus is NOT God got to be overseers! around the world and teach the friends a FALSE gospel and Anti-Christ; Jesus is NOT God for 75 years and still continue to preach it to the friends!
I can't believe that you speak like this yet still attend meetings where they preach it! I'm sorry Nathan but you are really wrong in doing so! |
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Post by Roselyn T on Feb 8, 2020 1:31:20 GMT -5
Exactly. A doctrine that generates hostility, quarreling, jealousy, outbursts of anger, dissension and division is not of God. Have you ever heard of non-trinitarians burning their fellow Christians at the stake?
HOW in the world did we allow these anti-Trinity 2x2 become overseers and church elders?Wow this speaks volumes !! If this doctrine us sooo important nathan take fixit's advive and change churches or go start your own !! |
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Post by nathan on Feb 8, 2020 1:32:45 GMT -5
If they had killed them all, we would NOT have the problems today among the 2x2 anti-Trinity workers and believers among us. The early days workers were NOT anti-Trinity but they believe Jesus is God like unto the Father and the Holy Spirit.
HOW in the world did we allow these anti-Trinity 2x2 become overseers and church elders? If they had killed them all? Have you heard yourself? That's disgusting! And that is not the way of Jesus! |
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Post by maryhig on Feb 8, 2020 1:33:10 GMT -5
I can't believe that you speak like this yet still attend meetings where they preach it! I'm sorry Nathan but you are really wrong in doing so! Is that what it are afraid of? Losing your position in the church? I would speak up regardless if I thought it was blasphemy and antichrist. |
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Post by nathan on Feb 8, 2020 1:34:26 GMT -5
If they had killed them all, we would NOT have the problems today among the 2x2 anti-Trinity workers and believers among us. The early days workers were NOT anti-Trinity but they believe Jesus is God like unto the Father and the Holy Spirit.
HOW in the world did we allow these anti-Trinity 2x2 become overseers and church elders? Wow this speaks volumes !! If this doctrine us sooo important nathan take fixit 's advive and change churches or go start your own !! |
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Post by Roselyn T on Feb 8, 2020 1:35:10 GMT -5
I can't believe that you speak like this yet still attend meetings where they preach it! I'm sorry Nathan but you are really wrong in doing so! Come on nathan of course you won't go and talk to the Workers about this because you know they won't take any notice to you. An ex-worker with some way out views who didn't attend meeting for many years ....!!! |
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Post by nathan on Feb 8, 2020 1:36:08 GMT -5
Somebody has to do it... start post on TMB it will get the workers attention! I know many of them are READING TMB.... Maybe we get it rolling, like snow balling.... I believe the overseers read Jean posted of her abusive experience with Ira H. on TMB and they asked him to admit his sins and STEP down as TEXAS, overseer position! Is that what it are afraid of? Losing your position in the church? I would speak up regardless if I thought it was blasphemy and antichrist. |
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Post by maryhig on Feb 8, 2020 1:37:42 GMT -5
If they had killed them all? Have you heard yourself? That's disgusting! And that is not the way of Jesus! You sound like the Pharisees who handed Jesus over to be crucified. They were willing to hand him over, so blood wouldn't be on their hands. But Jesus said, those who have handed me over to you have committed the greater sin! Imagine wanting others to do something to people that you have in your heart! Imagine even wanting people to be killed because they don't believe as you do! I can't believe how hard you are. And the way you believe is far from Jesus. So would want me to be hanged or murdered in some sordid way? |
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Post by Roselyn T on Feb 8, 2020 1:37:44 GMT -5
Wow this speaks volumes !! If this doctrine us sooo important nathan take fixit 's advive and change churches or go start your own !! But surely God can do that himself nathan ? Why would he need you to do that ? What input have you had in the recent happenings about CSA in Australia ? Or with false teachings ? |
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Post by nathan on Feb 8, 2020 1:39:25 GMT -5
Somebody has to do it... start post on TMB it will get the workers attention! I know many of them are READING TMB.... Maybe we get it rolling, like snow balling.... I believe the overseers read Jean posted of her abusive experience with Ira H. on TMB and they asked him to admit his sins and STEP down as TEXAS, overseer position! Come on nathan of course you won't go and talk to the Workers about this because you know they won't take any notice to you. An ex-worker with some way out views who didn't attend meeting for many years ....!!! |
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Post by Roselyn T on Feb 8, 2020 1:42:13 GMT -5
Come on nathan of course you won't go and talk to the Workers about this because you know they won't take any notice to you. An ex-worker with some way out views who didn't attend meeting for many years ....!!! Oh but we all know that is NOT the view of the F&Ws. Spending time on TMB instead of going to Sunday Meetings is the most pathetic excuse I have heard nathan, considering the Workers views on computers/ internet etc ! |
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Post by nathan on Feb 8, 2020 1:43:54 GMT -5
Let the RCC killed them all and let God sort out in heaven... then we would NOT have anti-Trinity 2x2s and Jesus is NOT God among us! the last 75 yrs. You sound like the Pharisees who handed Jesus over to be crucified. They were willing to hand him over, so blood wouldn't be on their hands. But Jesus said, those who have handed me over to you have committed the greater sin! Imagine wanting others to do something to people that you have in your heart! Imagine even wanting people to be killed because they don't believe as you do! I can't believe how hard your are. And the way you believe is far from Jesus. So would want me to be hanged or murdered in some sordid way?
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Post by maryhig on Feb 8, 2020 1:47:00 GMT -5
You sound like the Pharisees who handed Jesus over to be crucified. They were willing to hand him over, so blood wouldn't be on their hands. But Jesus said, those who have handed me over to you have committed the greater sin! Imagine wanting others to do something to people that you have in your heart! Imagine even wanting people to be killed because they don't believe as you do! I can't believe how hard your are. And the way you believe is far from Jesus. So would want me to be hanged or murdered in some sordid way?
No Nathan, you are not letting God do it. You are wanting the RCC and others to do what you have in your heart. Murder! Do you realise you are speaking about your own workers? Many of those you have fellowship with! How can you even think like that? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2020 1:49:55 GMT -5
Any lost sheep will be frantically running to a safe environment .... that’s the obvious paradox
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Post by Roselyn T on Feb 8, 2020 1:50:11 GMT -5
Yes, if you or anyone pass on false teachings to others and to corrupt people minds with anti-Christ teachings. I will let God do the hanging and murdering like He will do with the false prophets and teachers in Rev. 19:20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.
No Nathan, you are not letting God do it. You are wanting the RCC and others to do what you have in your heart. Murder! Do you realise you are speaking about your own workers? Many of those you have fellowship with! How can you even think like that? He has to be right at any cost maryhig !! I agree with you and do not understand why nathan goes to the 2x2 church if the Trinity doctrine is so important to him. |
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Post by Roselyn T on Feb 8, 2020 1:53:09 GMT -5
Any lost sheep will be frantically running to a safe environment .... that’s the obvious paradox And nathan tries to blame the ex 2x2s for turning people against the church ...well nathan maybe you should read your own posts !!! |
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Post by nathan on Feb 8, 2020 1:55:54 GMT -5
Yes, if you or anyone pass on false teachings to others and to corrupt people minds with anti-Christ teachings. I will let God do the hanging and murdering like He will do with the false prophets and teachers in Rev. 19:20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.
No Nathan, you are not letting God do it. You are wanting the RCC and others to do what you have in your heart. Murder! Do you realise you are speaking about your own workers? Many of those you have fellowship with! How can you even think like that?
Ex2x2 Elizabeth Coleman in the Australian News
www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/true-stories/woman-recounts-life-raised-in-secret-australian-religious-sect/news-story/6c7f509e8a16c1a1264c0200e2bafb8c?fbclid=IwAR1Fi2uN0t-6GxF5T16rHfkwcfd58sRKX6aqLK4xgmwJE1ZMacRwTSeiweY |
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Post by Roselyn T on Feb 8, 2020 1:57:45 GMT -5
No Nathan, you are not letting God do it. You are wanting the RCC and others to do what you have in your heart. Murder! Do you realise you are speaking about your own workers? Many of those you have fellowship with! How can you even think like that?
Are you trying to "play God" now nathan ? Or don't you think God was in control back then ? |
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