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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Dec 30, 2019 23:17:03 GMT -5
You don't know. You hate the religion. That's what you know. You assume a lot which makes you an ass.
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Post by rational on Dec 31, 2019 1:39:39 GMT -5
The best leaders are those who do not aspire to be leaders. Nihilism. The ethos of materialistic societies knows no leaders. Only societies countenancing spirituality. Do you use a random phrase generator? How does the sentence stating that "The best leaders are those who do not aspire to be leaders." lead you to the conclusion that materialistic societies knows no leaders? You might also want to get a replacement for nihilism. I know of no one posting here who believes life is meaningless. Or is this a projection on your part? Perhaps living your life in line with unsupported ancient myths is looking meaningless to you.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Dec 31, 2019 1:57:03 GMT -5
Nihilism. The ethos of materialistic societies knows no leaders. Only societies countenancing spirituality. Do you use a random phrase generator? How does the sentence stating that "The best leaders are those who do not aspire to be leaders." lead you to the conclusion that materialistic societies knows no leaders? You might also want to get a replacement for nihilism. I know of no one posting here who believes life is meaningless. Or is this a projection on your part? Perhaps living your life in line with unsupported ancient myths is looking meaningless to you. I cannot see how anyone who has even the modicum of an education could still hold beliefs in the creation story and supernatural beings. Perhaps they do have some understanding and wish it would just go away so they could have their imaginary eternal life.
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Post by Annan on Dec 31, 2019 7:55:30 GMT -5
Paul was just another man of the times seeing an opportunity and making the most of it. Similar to Joseph Smith, Ron Hubbard, William Irvine and Nathan. There were some Mormon youth at our house one day. They asked me what I thought of Joseph Smith's revelations. I said I believe he lied. They were stunned.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Dec 31, 2019 12:59:45 GMT -5
Paul was just another man of the times seeing an opportunity and making the most of it. Similar to Joseph Smith, Ron Hubbard, William Irvine and Nathan. There were some Mormon youth at our house one day. They asked me what I thought of Joseph Smith's revelations. I said I believe he lied. They were stunned. Brilliant! And that can be applied to every other writer of religious text promising eternal life and virgins galore.
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Post by rational on Dec 31, 2019 21:42:55 GMT -5
Paul was just another man of the times seeing an opportunity and making the most of it. Similar to Joseph Smith, Ron Hubbard, William Irvine and Nathan. There were some Mormon youth at our house one day. They asked me what I thought of Joseph Smith's revelations. I said I believe he lied. They were stunned. If only Smith had kept the gold plates....
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Dec 31, 2019 22:30:41 GMT -5
There were some Mormon youth at our house one day. They asked me what I thought of Joseph Smith's revelations. I said I believe he lied. They were stunned. If only Smith had kept the gold plates.... Haha, all part of the dream.
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Post by Lee on Jan 2, 2020 0:11:25 GMT -5
Do you use a random phrase generator? How does the sentence stating that "The best leaders are those who do not aspire to be leaders." lead you to the conclusion that materialistic societies knows no leaders? You might also want to get a replacement for nihilism. I know of no one posting here who believes life is meaningless. Or is this a projection on your part? Perhaps living your life in line with unsupported ancient myths is looking meaningless to you. I cannot see how anyone who has even the modicum of an education could still hold beliefs in the creation story and supernatural beings. Perhaps they do have some understanding and wish it would just go away so they could have their imaginary eternal life. You don't know eternal life is just imaginary. If you are indeed alive today, if you are indeed now a person, its logical to wonder if you or some aspect of you might have been alive before or after your present existance.
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Post by Lee on Jan 2, 2020 0:16:03 GMT -5
Nihilism. The ethos of materialistic societies knows no leaders. Only societies countenancing spirituality. Do you use a random phrase generator? How does the sentence stating that "The best leaders are those who do not aspire to be leaders." lead you to the conclusion that materialistic societies knows no leaders? You might also want to get a replacement for nihilism. I know of no one posting here who believes life is meaningless. Or is this a projection on your part? Perhaps living your life in line with unsupported ancient myths is looking meaningless to you. Not at all. I wonder why people can walk right by homeless people today. It's because our philosophical order, foundation, or paradigm is materially dominant. I wonder why the ostensibly, representative parties fight and polarize as they do over Trump's impeachment. It's because our philosophical order, foundation, or paradigm is materially dominant.
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Post by Lee on Jan 2, 2020 0:17:18 GMT -5
You don't know. You hate the religion. That's what you know. You assume a lot which makes you an ass. You think Christians are all silly. That makes you an ass.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Jan 2, 2020 0:23:25 GMT -5
You assume a lot which makes you an ass. You think Christians are all silly. That makes you an ass. I see.
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Post by rational on Jan 2, 2020 1:36:02 GMT -5
I cannot see how anyone who has even the modicum of an education could still hold beliefs in the creation story and supernatural beings. Perhaps they do have some understanding and wish it would just go away so they could have their imaginary eternal life. You don't know eternal life is just imaginary. If you are indeed alive today, if you are indeed now a person, its logical to wonder if you or some aspect of you might have been alive before or after your present existance. Can you explain the logical process that led you to this conclusion?
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Post by Lee on Jan 2, 2020 1:51:54 GMT -5
It's not by a logical process I draught my conclusion. Rather, by the experience of consciousness itself, I concluded that time was comprised or composed by inferior qualities. Experience is an essential antacedent of logical inference.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Jan 2, 2020 2:31:26 GMT -5
It's not by a logical process I draught my conclusion. Rather, by the experience of consciousness itself, I concluded that time was comprised or composed by inferior qualities. Experience is an essential antacedent of logical inference. Thanks for the explanation but I will stick to scientific explanations of time.
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Post by Lee on Jan 2, 2020 2:48:06 GMT -5
With all due respect, your response has been relative.
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Post by BobWilliston on Jan 2, 2020 2:51:39 GMT -5
It's not by a logical process I draught my conclusion. Rather, by the experience of consciousness itself, I concluded that time was comprised or composed by inferior qualities. Experience is an essential antacedent of logical inference. Thanks for the explanation but I will stick to scientific explanations of time. I didn't understand it.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Jan 2, 2020 2:55:02 GMT -5
Thanks for the explanation but I will stick to scientific explanations of time. I didn't understand it. You are not alone on that.
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Post by rational on Jan 2, 2020 12:28:02 GMT -5
It's not by a logical process I draught my conclusion. Rather, by the experience of consciousness itself, I concluded that time was comprised or composed by inferior qualities. Experience is an essential antacedent of logical inference. So your statement: You don't know eternal life is just imaginary. If you are indeed alive today, if you are indeed now a person, its logical to wonder if you or some aspect of you might have been alive before or after your present existance. (emphasis added) really isn't logical at all but simply your beliefs. Who would have guessed.
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Post by Lee on Jan 4, 2020 22:05:53 GMT -5
Their isn't anything strictly logical to what God does.
After all he created you.
Sort of like we've all observed: stupid is as stupid does.
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Post by rational on Jan 5, 2020 0:43:56 GMT -5
Their isn't anything strictly logical to what God does. After all he created you. I know. Creating an atheist does make one wonder. And we all thank you for your clear example of this catchy phrase.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2020 0:50:39 GMT -5
Their isn't anything strictly logical to what God does. After all he created you. Sort of like we've all observed: stupid is as stupid does. gotta love a forest gump quote!
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Post by snow on Jan 5, 2020 13:38:47 GMT -5
Their isn't anything strictly logical to what God does. After all he created you. Sort of like we've all observed: stupid is as stupid does. gotta love a forest gump quote! Hmm but didn't he just call God stupid?
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Post by Or on Jan 7, 2020 4:30:10 GMT -5
gotta love a forest gump quote! Hmm but didn't he just call God stupid? More likely he was inferring that G-D created “stupidity” ? (the fool hath said in his heart., there is NO Creator ....( ). )
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2020 4:40:21 GMT -5
gotta love a forest gump quote! Hmm but didn't he just call God stupid? i'm ignoring that part....
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Post by iam on Feb 17, 2020 23:47:21 GMT -5
1 Corinthians 11:3 KJV But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.
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Post by dmmichgood on Feb 18, 2020 0:05:02 GMT -5
I cannot see how anyone who has even the modicum of an education could still hold beliefs in the creation story and supernatural beings. Perhaps they do have some understanding and wish it would just go away so they could have their imaginary eternal life. You don't know eternal life is just imaginary. If you are indeed alive today, if you are indeed now a person, its logical to wonder if you or some aspect of you might have been alive before or after your present existance. Of course we wonder about where we were before we were born and what will happen to us when we no longer are alive!
That is because we are "thinking" beings!
It is also precisely why we have created all the religious beliefs that mankind has created!
I wonder why we don't wonder more about where we were BEFORE we were born, -but spend so much time about what will happen AFTER we die.
Anyone got any thoughts about why we do that?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2020 0:22:33 GMT -5
You don't know eternal life is just imaginary. If you are indeed alive today, if you are indeed now a person, its logical to wonder if you or some aspect of you might have been alive before or after your present existance. Of course we wonder about where we were before we were born and what will happen to us when we no longer are alive!
That is because we are "thinking" beings!
It is also precisely why we have created all the religious beliefs that mankind has created!
I wonder why we don't wonder more about where we were BEFORE we were born, -but spend so much time about what will happen AFTER we die.
Anyone got any thoughts about why we do that?
well because "before we were born" its hardly touched on in the bible so doesn't seem as relevant and the "after life" is a lot more talked about....
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Post by dmmichgood on Feb 18, 2020 2:27:40 GMT -5
Of course we wonder about where we were before we were born and what will happen to us when we no longer are alive!
That is because we are "thinking" beings!
It is also precisely why we have created all the religious beliefs that mankind has created!
I wonder why we don't wonder more about where we were BEFORE we were born, -but spend so much time about what will happen AFTER we die.
Anyone got any thoughts about why we do that?
well because "before we were born" its hardly touched on in the bible so doesn't seem as relevant and the "after life" is a lot more talked about.... Well true, -but why is that?
Maybe it is because we know nothing about where were before we were born, -but after we are born & we have interact with others members of society there must be control over us & the game of rewards or punishments in some form is used.
Religion is a very good tool for that control.
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