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Post by snow on Oct 10, 2024 14:26:43 GMT -5
I think you have a mistaken identity there. I am not a book author. Opps, sorry… I was thinking of BobW but that can including you in the post also, the good 2x2s that is being deceived in the great fallen away eventually you and fixed will come out of your closet soon just like Chuck. That is my opinion! Just let us Wait and see. They haven't been deceived and that's why you say they are leaving. They've witnessed with their own eyes and ears the doubling down of workers and overseers to keep child predators in the meetings and they have finally decided that in order to keep their integrity they have to leave. I am sad for those who have to leave that enjoyed the meeting in the home style of fellowship, or the elderly that have professed all their lives and don't know another way of life. I understand that in order for the elderly to be able to live out their days as they have all their lives the meetings have to exist for them to attend. So I do understand how it's necessary for the meetings to be their for them to be able to do that. But I also understand why so many are just having fellowship meetings and no longer supporting the workers financially or having them in their homes. Or attending any other forms of meetings that are worker oriented. It complex and a sad mess. I will never understand how the overseers can support the rights of predators and not do a thing for the survivors of child sexual abuse to the point where they even downplay the extent of the abuse or the impact it has on children. Because of their teaching that you can only go to heaven through the workers they are using this excuse to keep predators in meetings. It's utter bs and they are going to see more and more people leaving, not because it's prophesied but because the leadership is corrupt. |
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Post by Pragmatic on Oct 10, 2024 14:33:26 GMT -5
Opps, sorry… I was thinking of BobW but that can including you in the post also, the good 2x2s that is being deceived in the great fallen away eventually you and fixed will come out of your closet soon just like Chuck. That is my opinion! Just let us Wait and see. They haven't been deceived and that's why you say they are leaving. They've witnessed with their own eyes and ears the doubling down of workers and overseers to keep child predators in the meetings and they have finally decided that in order to keep their integrity they have to leave. I am sad for those who have to leave that enjoyed the meeting in the home style of fellowship, or the elderly that have professed all their lives and don't know another way of life. I understand that in order for the elderly to be able to live out their days as they have all their lives the meetings have to exist for them to attend. So I do understand how it's necessary for the meetings to be their for them to be able to do that. But I also understand why so many are just having fellowship meetings and no longer supporting the workers financially or having them in their homes. Or attending any other forms of meetings that are worker oriented. It complex and a sad mess. I will never understand how the overseers can support the rights of predators and not do a thing for the survivors of child sexual abuse to the point where they even downplay the extent of the abuse or the impact it has on children. Because of their teaching that you can only go to heaven through the workers they are using this excuse to keep predators in meetings. It's utter bs and they are going to see more and more people leaving, not because it's prophesied but because the leadership is corrupt. Exactly Snow. And I explained the various reasons people leave in an earlier post. But we know how little comprehension he has: even less than his reading skills.
I find it reassuring to be in total disagreement with him....it means I'm on the right track!
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Oct 10, 2024 15:37:37 GMT -5
Exactly Snow. And I explained the various reasons people leave in an earlier post. But we know how little comprehension he has: even less than his reading skills.
I find it reassuring to be in total disagreement with him....it means I'm on the right track!
In John 6 many of Jesus followers got offended and left him Jesus because he taught if his followers don’t eat his flesh and drink his blood they can’t be SAVED! He turned and asked the 12 apostles Will you go away also? Peter spoke up To whom shall we goLord thou has the words of Eternal life! The 12 stayed with Jesus to end of life except Judas the Traitor. In Luke 22 Jesus explained to the 12 He wasn’t talking about eating His flesh and blood literally! It was partake the Eucharists/Emblems of Bread and Wine under the New covenant Christ’s Passover Read ICor. 11:19-26. Do this ritual tradition on 1st day of the week in remembrance of me. Those of us/2x2s have decided to NOT yo jump ships! Bless your heart, my Precious One, but trolling is not your strength. I know God has not blessed you with even the brains of a slug on cocaine, but do keep trying to express yourself. You might want to try going over to InfoWars website or similar and practice crazy over there. Lots of good people with your mental limitations write over there. You will feel right at home, |
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Post by nathan2 on Oct 10, 2024 15:50:08 GMT -5
Exactly Snow. And I explained the various reasons people leave in an earlier post. But we know how little comprehension he has: even less than his reading skills.
I find it reassuring to be in total disagreement with him....it means I'm on the right track!
In John 6 many of Jesus followers got offended and left him Jesus because he taught if his followers don’t eat his flesh and drink his blood they can’t be SAVED! He turned and asked the 12 apostles Will you go away also? Peter spoke up To whom shall we goLord thou has the words of Eternal life! The 12 stayed with Jesus to end of life except Judas the Traitor. In Luke 22 Jesus explained to the 12 He wasn’t talking about eating His flesh and blood literally! It was partake the Eucharists/Emblems of Bread and Wine under the New covenant Christ’s Passover Read ICor. 11:19-26. Do this ritual tradition on 1st day of the week in remembrance of me. The New Testament of Christ’s Passover is established by the Godhead not by the workers or men ideas. Those of us/2x2s have decided to NOT to jump ships! Other workers, some of the friends and myself have tried to educate and warn the 2x2s about CSA taken place in the year 2000 on TMB! Most of The overseers, the workers and the friends didn’t take the warnings seriously, now they and the friends children are paying a horrible price for the rest of their lives. I am NOT going to jump ship or Quit, NOT having fellowship and partake Christ’s Passover for my sins with the true servants of God and the friends on Sunday. Just because MANY of these stupid Overseers mistakes, covered up, sweeping under the carpet, allowing these CSA workers stay in the work, and the CSA Church elders to continue their hideous deeds on the children of the friends by NOT Reporting the CSA cases to the FBI and local authority. I hope MANY of them will be sent to prison for NOT protecting the children of the friends! I have been promoting and working behind the scene with workers, and overseer in Texas to sound the CSA alarms to the overseers around the world for MANY years and they agree! And the movement of taken anti-CSA courses within the ministry began slow and it kept on growing then God, the exes opened the CSA floodgate with DeanB in 2023 in Oregon. Jesus DID NOT tell His Sheep to LEAVE the fold! But to Stay PUT in the fold and HE will take care and deal with the situation according to His timing is ALWAYS bring out the best results! There is NO Protection from the Shepherd/God once you LEAVE the fold of God, you are an open preys for the wolves/Satan to pluck one by one, that is ONE of the reasons, he wants the workers and the friends to LEAVE the FOLD and fellowship, and feeding them JUNK FOODS in his FALSE 60,000 false denominations churches, which he started RCC in the 2nd Century to NOW! Read Rev. chapters 17-18. God and Christ had warned and foretold the true believers and Christians about it. |
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Post by nathan2 on Oct 10, 2024 15:51:13 GMT -5
I thought you didn't judge anyone? So what's this then? Quote: mackin75 It is true, I don't believe a Christian who rejects his crucifixion is saved, because rejecting his sacrifice for sin leaves a person guilty of sin, and the 'wages of sin is death'. That sure looks like judging you me? By the way, when Jesus said to take this cup, he said to drink it in remembrance of him. Not of him dying on the cross. It's to remember him, and I remember him, his life and the sacrifice he made when he laid down his life to live by the will of God and bring us the gospel. Jesus own words and teachings will either SAVE you or condemned and Judged you. It seems you believe and teach a half-Truth gospel Read John 3:10-21. Once you don’t understand the Godhead’s function and each Divine Person of the Godhead role in our Salvation then your teachings and preaching is NOT fully complete and understandable. You or anyone can copy and paste these verses on here so the readers can read it. I can’t copy and paste verses on my IPhone, because the Adm. and his moderators restricted me from copy and paste on my registered main 🖥️ Thanks! Paul encouraged Timothy to Preach, teach and interpret the scriptures correctly because it will SAVE his own life/soul and the lives of those who listen to the gospel of Christ that he presented to the hearers. Paul cast two teachers or apostles to Satan for teachings false doctrines for saying the Resurrection already happened and made shipwrecked of Jesus followers’ faith, in God and Christ. I Timothy 2:19-20; II Timothy 4:1-4; II Tim. 2:15-19. |
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Post by fixit on Oct 10, 2024 16:25:08 GMT -5
Jesus DID NOT tell His Sheep to LEAVE the fold! But to Stay PUT in the fold and HE will take care and deal with the situation according to His timing is ALWAYS bring out the best results! There is NO Protecting from the Shepherd/God once you LEAVE the fold of God, you are an open preys for the wolves/Satan to pluck one by one. The fold Jesus referred to is where Jesus is. What fold are you talking about? |
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Post by nathan2 on Oct 10, 2024 16:36:36 GMT -5
Jesus DID NOT tell His Sheep to LEAVE the fold! But to Stay PUT in the fold and HE will take care and deal with the situation according to His timing is ALWAYS bring out the best results! There is NO Protecting from the Shepherd/God once you LEAVE the fold of God, you are an open preys for the wolves/Satan to pluck one by one. The fold Jesus referred to is where Jesus is. What fold are you talking about? Man, you are a 2x2 church elder for 50 years ? of Jesus Christ 1st Century of His New Testament in the 21st century and you don’t understand this? Are you sure it was the Holy Spirit who anointed you as the church elder? Read in John 10 Jesus is talking about His Fold and he is the First shepherd and his apostles and the church elders are his underspherds of the lambs and sheep of God. Jesus fold/assembly of his followers began to grow bigger in numbers through the leading, helping of the Holy Spirit who came down from heaven to assist the ministry and his followers in the GREAT Mission Matthew 28:16-20. Jesus foretold in Matthew 24:14 the gospel, the New Testament fold will continue on and reach to all nations, then He will returns to collect them all around the world. Read Matthew 24:24-31. |
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Post by nathan2 on Oct 10, 2024 16:39:53 GMT -5
They? So you're a polytheist. Yes! It’s THEY. Polytheist Godhead NOT Monotheist El/single God. The KJV Bible translators made the mistakes when they translated from the Hebrews language into the English language. They didn’t explain the Word God/El is singular; and the the word God/Elohim is plural. They just translated God. They tried to explain the different the of the plural Godhead by translating the LORD/God the Father and Lord/Christ as Adonai in Ps. 110:1-2. King David said the LORD said unto my Lord/Christ sit thou at my right hand until I make thy enemies for your footstool. The word El/God is singular for God but in Genesis 1:26; Elohim God is used, God/ELOHIM/Plural more than 1 but 3 Supreme beings in ONE Godhead. 1) Genesis 1:26 the Word God there is Elohim/plural Godhead= God the Father, Christ God and the Holy Spirit God, said to one another, “ Let us Create man in Our imagine and in Our Likeness!” 2) In Genesis 3:22 And the Lord God/El Christ said, “ Behold man has become ONE of US to KNOW good and Evil…” Paul wrote in Philippians 2:5-12 Christ Jesus being in the form of God… That At the name of Jesus EVERY KNEE shall bow and tongue shall confess in heaven, under the earth and on the earth Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of the Father. Hebrews 1:8-12 God said to the Son, “Thy throne, O God is forever… and thou Lord, in the beginning has laid the foundation of the earth and the heavens are the works of thy hands. Christ God the Lord, was the Co-Creator of the Universe With God the Father of Adam/Eve and ALL mankind/ Neanderthals and so on. Coll 2:9 For in Him/Christ dwells ALL the Fullness of the Godhead bodily. 3) In Genesis 1:1-2 In the beginning God/Elohim/plural Created the heaven and the earth… And the Spirit of God move upon the water. In acts 5:4 Peter said to Ananias and his wife, “Why has Satan filled your hearts to LIE to the Holy Ghost/Spirit to keep back part of the money for the land? Thou has NOT lie unto men But God /El. John the apostle wrote in I John 5: 7-8 For there are THREE that bear record in heaven God, Christ the Word God read John 1:1-3; Rev. 19:3 and the Holy Spirit. |
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Post by Dan on Oct 10, 2024 17:28:55 GMT -5
No need to get defensive, there is but one ultimate Judge, and it ain't me.. I don't think anyone will be condemned for something they don't understand.
All but one sin is forgivable, so I'm convinced any repentant sinner can obtain salvation. If this were not so, we're all screwed! I never suggested that a non-repentant hypocrite can sin at will and still get a free pass through the pearly gates.
Its not a matter of believing as I do, but believing what I quoted in Isaiah 53. Paraphrased; "The Lord hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.. thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin.. he shall bear their iniquities". Hard to misinterpret that!
I don't mean to rehash this, its seems clear that you have trouble rectifying the need for a Saviors sacrifice, but simply stated, "Without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sins." (Hebrews 9:22).
"Where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator" (Hebrews 9:16). Just prior to his execution, Jesus himself said,, "This is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins" (Matthew 26:28). His life and example did not nullify sin, nor does your ability to follow him erase your transgressions. The curse of the law (sin=death) was satisfied when he took our sins upon himself. A sinner trying to wash themselves of sin in like taking a mud bath, only the sinless sacrificial Lamb of God could satisfy the law.
"He took the cup, when he had supped, saying, this cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me" (1 Corinthians 11:25). I hope you'll reconsider what Christ did for you, his 6 agonizing hours on the cross is what he wanted you to remember, because through his blood he paved the path to eternal life.
I thought you didn't judge anyone? So what's this then? It is true, I don't believe a Christian who rejects his crucifixion is saved, because rejecting his sacrifice for sin leaves a person guilty of sin, and the 'wages of sin is death'. That sure looks like judging you me? By the way, when Jesus said to take this cup, he said to drink it in remembrance of him. Not of him dying on the cross. It's to remember him, and I remember him, his life and the sacrifice he made when he laid down his life to live by the will of God and bring us the gospel.
That's what I believe and the reason I believe it.. Its not judging or condemning others. I'm just stating that anyone who's sinned will perish, and I believe it because the bible says "The wages of sin is death". It doesn't matter how good you are, "For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all” (James 2:10). Jesus took our sins upon himself, and that's the saving grace that freed us from sin, "He Himself bore our sins in His body on the cross" (1 Peter 2:24)
"By him, all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses" (Acts 13:38). How will you justify yourself on judgement day if your guilty of sin? Will you lay your sins at the foot of the cross?
Accepting the life and example of Christ is vital, but that includes the reason for his death and sacrifice. "Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage" (Galatians 5:1).
Its impossible to absolve yourself of sin, "If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed" (John 8:36).
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Post by BobWilliston on Oct 10, 2024 17:58:51 GMT -5
But Paul didn't say that Nathan, he didn't say what you are saying. Can you show me chapter and verse please? It's a simple question? Again where is this in the bible as you have written it here below? It pleased God by preaching the message Jesus DIED on Calvary to SAVE them that are SAVED. I've gone through the verses that you have mentioned in 1 Corinthians 1 and what you have written isn't there? So where is it? speaking that you are NOT able to see and understand what Paul wrote in 1) I Cor. 1:18-26. And it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching of the CROSS to SAVE them that believe it’s the Power and Wisdom of God. That is a derogatory and insulting way to address a person. You don't talk like that to your sycophants when you disagree with them. |
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Post by BobWilliston on Oct 10, 2024 18:02:51 GMT -5
I thought you didn't judge anyone? So what's this then? Quote: mackin75 It is true, I don't believe a Christian who rejects his crucifixion is saved, because rejecting his sacrifice for sin leaves a person guilty of sin, and the 'wages of sin is death'. That sure looks like judging you me? By the way, when Jesus said to take this cup, he said to drink it in remembrance of him. Not of him dying on the cross. It's to remember him, and I remember him, his life and the sacrifice he made when he laid down his life to live by the will of God and bring us the gospel. Jesus own words and teachings will either SAVE you or condemned and Judged you. It seems you believe and teach a half-Truth gospel Read John 3:10-21. Once you don’t understand the Godhead’s function and each Divine Person of the Godhead role in our Salvation then your teachings and preaching is NOT fully complete and understandable. You or anyone can copy and paste these verses on here so the readers can read it. I can’t copy and paste verses on my IPhone, because the Adm. and his moderators restricted me from copy and paste on my registered main 🖥️ Thanks! Paul encouraged Timothy to Preach, teach and interpret the scriptures correctly because it will SAVE his own life/soul and the lives of those who listen to the gospel of Christ that he presented to the hearers. Paul cast two teachers or apostles to Satan for teachings false doctrines for saying the Resurrection already happened and made shipwrecked of Jesus followers’ faith, in God and Christ. I Timothy 2:19-20; II Timothy 4:1-4; II Tim. 2:15-19. You didn't have to say that to make your point. You said that to make her feel stupid. You don't talk that way to your sychophants. |
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Post by nathan2 on Oct 10, 2024 18:04:17 GMT -5
I thought you didn't judge anyone? So what's this then? It is true, I don't believe a Christian who rejects his crucifixion is saved, because rejecting his sacrifice for sin leaves a person guilty of sin, and the 'wages of sin is death'. That sure looks like judging you me? By the way, when Jesus said to take this cup, he said to drink it in remembrance of him. Not of him dying on the cross. It's to remember him, and I remember him, his life and the sacrifice he made when he laid down his life to live by the will of God and bring us the gospel.
That's what I believe and the reason I believe it.. It’s not judging or condemning others. I'm just stating that anyone who's sinned will perish, and I believe it because the bible says "The wages of sin is death". It doesn't matter how good you are, "For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all” (James 2:10). Jesus took our sins upon himself, and that's the saving grace that freed us from sin, "He Himself bore our sins in His body on the cross" (1 Peter 2:24)
"By him, all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses" (Acts 13:38). How will you justify yourself on judgement day if your guilty of sin? Will you lay your sins at the foot of the cross?
Accepting the life and example of Christ is vital, but that includes the reason for his death and sacrifice. "Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage" (Galatians 5:1).
Its impossible to absolve yourself of sin, "If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed" (John 8:36).
Amen, bro. Hebrews 9:12, 24-28 Neither by the blood of goats, calves, but by his own blood he entered once into the Holy place, having obtained ETERNAL Redemption! So, Christ was appointed to die once offered to take away the sins of MANY, unto the people who wait for him the Second Time without sins unto Salvation. |
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Post by BobWilliston on Oct 10, 2024 18:09:47 GMT -5
The fold Jesus referred to is where Jesus is. What fold are you talking about? Man, you are a 2x2 church elder for 50 years ? of Jesus Christ 1st Century of His New Testament in the 21st century and you don’t understand this? Are you sure it was the Holy Spirit who anointed you as the church elder? Read in John 10 Jesus is talking about His Fold and he is the First shepherd and his apostles and the church elders are his underspherds of the lambs and sheep of God. Jesus fold/assembly of his followers began to grow bigger in numbers through the leading, helping of the Holy Spirit who came down from heaven to assist the ministry and his followers in the GREAT Mission Matthew 28:16-20. Jesus foretold in Matthew 24:14 the gospel, the New Testament fold will continue on and reach to all nations, then He will returns to collect them all around the world. Read Matthew 24:24-31. You can make the point without politely suggesting that he is not right with the Holy Sppirit. You only wrote that to make him insult his beliefs. |
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Post by nathan2 on Oct 10, 2024 18:20:14 GMT -5
Are you that slow naturally and spiritually speaking that you are NOT able to see and understand what Paul wrote in 1) I Cor. 1:18-26. And it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching of the CROSS to SAVE them that believe it’s the Power and Wisdom of God. That is a derogatory and insulting way to address a person. You don't talk like that to your sycophants when you disagree with them. 🤭🤔 Sometimes, you have to get their attention and make them think! Like Jesus with the Pharisees who always rejected his teachings and he tried to let the people who they really are Read Matthew 23 so, the listeners NOT to listen to them and STAY away from them, because their teachings bring bondage into their lives. |
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Post by nathan2 on Oct 10, 2024 18:22:30 GMT -5
Man, you are a 2x2 church elder for 50 years ? of Jesus Christ 1st Century of His New Testament in the 21st century and you don’t understand this? Are you sure it was the Holy Spirit who anointed you as the church elder? Read in John 10 Jesus is talking about His Fold and he is the First shepherd and his apostles and the church elders are his underspherds of the lambs and sheep of God. Jesus fold/assembly of his followers began to grow bigger in numbers through the leading, helping of the Holy Spirit who came down from heaven to assist the ministry and his followers in the GREAT Mission Matthew 28:16-20. Jesus foretold in Matthew 24:14 the gospel, the New Testament fold will continue on and reach to all nations, then He will returns to collect them all around the world. Read Matthew 24:24-31. You can make the point without politely suggesting that he is not right with the Holy Spirit. You only wrote that to make him insult his beliefs. Well, that was the point! So, he would see his errors and turn away from it. I am NOT perfect if I see my errors, I will fixit or change it, that is how a person grows and keep on learning new things. I have learned a lot from many of you on TMB for over 20 years.👍 |
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Post by BobWilliston on Oct 10, 2024 18:25:21 GMT -5
That is a derogatory and insulting way to address a person. You don't talk like that to your sycophants when you disagree with them. 🤭🤔 Sometimes, you have to get their attention and make them think! Like Jesus with the Pharisees who always rejected his teachings and he tried to let the people who they really are Read Matthew 23 so, the listeners NOT to listen to them and STAY away from them, because their teachings bring bondage into their lives. Shame on you. Insulting people to get their attention. That makes you unworthy of anyone's attention. No one insults people they care anything for. |
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Post by nathan2 on Oct 10, 2024 18:28:22 GMT -5
🤭🤔 Sometimes, you have to get their attention and make them think! Like Jesus with the Pharisees who always rejected his teachings and he tried to let the people who they really are Read Matthew 23 so, the listeners NOT to listen to them and STAY away from them, because their teachings bring bondage into their lives. Shame on you. Insulting people to get their attention. That makes you unworthy of anyone's attention. No one insults people they care anything for. Just try to follow Jesus my Lord God and Savior examples on certain people only NOT to everyone, who shows me respect and I will do the same like Dan, Wally, Snow, Mary and others. Read Matthew chapter 23. I don’t do that to MOST people on here but only to a few, just like Jesus did to the Pharisees, Sadducee’s, and the unbelieving Jews/atheists and those who tried to kill him. Like Dan, Wally and myself don’t always agree on everything 100% but we respect each others belief. They share their belief and I share mine and we leave it at that. We just agree to disagree and I am fine with that. |
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Post by BobWilliston on Oct 10, 2024 18:52:38 GMT -5
You can make the point without politely suggesting that he is not right with the Holy Spirit. You only wrote that to make him insult his beliefs. Well, that was the point! So, he would see his errors and turn away from it. I am NOT perfect if I see my errors, I will fixit or change it, that is how a person grow and keep on learning new things. No, that wasn't your point. You disagreed with something else he said. You did not need to tell him he was deficient in his spiritual life -- you've got your own deficiencies if you'd admit it. Try to be humble with people. |
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Post by BobWilliston on Oct 10, 2024 19:00:44 GMT -5
Shame on you. Insulting people to get their attention. That makes you unworthy of anyone's attention. No one insults people they care anything for. Just try to follow Jesus my Lord God and Savior examples on certain people only NOT to everyone, who shows me respect and I will do the same like Dan, Wally, Snow, Mary and others. Read Matthew chapter 23.
I don’t do that to MOST people on here but only to a few, just like Jesus did to the Pharisees, Sadducee’s, and the unbelieving Jews/atheists and those who tried to kill him. Like Dan, Wally and myself don’t always agree on everything 100% but we respect each others belief. They share their belief and I share mine and we leave it at that. We just agree to disagree and I am fine with that. But YOU are NOT Jesus. And you're admitting to treating some of us like Sadducees and Pharisees. That means you think we are lesser than you and we need to be insulted for some reason. It's obviously you thrive on being insulted -- normal people don't, and don't deserve to be insulted. That's abuse. |
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Post by fixit on Oct 10, 2024 19:01:02 GMT -5
That is a derogatory and insulting way to address a person. You don't talk like that to your sycophants when you disagree with them. 🤭🤔 Sometimes, you have to get their attention and make them think! Like Jesus with the Pharisees who always rejected his teachings and he tried to let the people who they really are Read Matthew 23 so, the listeners NOT to listen to them and STAY away from them, because their teachings bring bondage into their lives. Our challenge is to get your attention and make you think. |
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Post by BobWilliston on Oct 10, 2024 19:04:03 GMT -5
🤭🤔 Sometimes, you have to get their attention and make them think! Like Jesus with the Pharisees who always rejected his teachings and he tried to let the people who they really are Read Matthew 23 so, the listeners NOT to listen to them and STAY away from them, because their teachings bring bondage into their lives. Our challenge is to get your attention and make you think. He doesn't listen to or take criticism. If he reads it, he uses it to insult people. He kind of prides himself in being insulted "for his fake piety" and counts it a blessing to himself. |
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Post by fixit on Oct 10, 2024 19:05:37 GMT -5
The fold Jesus referred to is where Jesus is. What fold are you talking about? Man, you are a 2x2 church elder for 50 years ? of Jesus Christ 1st Century of His New Testament in the 21st century and you don’t understand this? Are you sure it was the Holy Spirit who anointed you as the church elder? Read in John 10 Jesus is talking about His Fold and he is the First shepherd and his apostles and the church elders are his underspherds of the lambs and sheep of God. Jesus fold/assembly of his followers began to grow bigger in numbers through the leading, helping of the Holy Spirit who came down from heaven to assist the ministry and his followers in the GREAT Mission Matthew 28:16-20. Jesus foretold in Matthew 24:14 the gospel, the New Testament fold will continue on and reach to all nations, then He will returns to collect them all around the world. Read Matthew 24:24-31. A fold is a sheep pen where the shepherd leads his sheep for overnight protection. Then in the morning he leads them out to pasture. You seem to think that a religious organisation is the fold Jesus spoke of. |
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Post by nathan2 on Oct 10, 2024 19:32:47 GMT -5
Just try to follow Jesus my Lord God and Savior examples on certain people only NOT to everyone, who shows me respect and I will do the same like Dan, Wally, Snow, Mary and others. Read Matthew chapter 23.
I don’t do that to MOST people on here but only to a few, just like Jesus did to the Pharisees, Sadducee’s, and the unbelieving Jews/atheists and those who tried to kill him. Like Dan, Wally and myself don’t always agree on everything 100% but we respect each others belief. They share their belief and I share mine and we leave it at that. We just agree to disagree and I am fine with that. But YOU are NOT Jesus. And you're admitting to treating some of us like Sadducees and Pharisees. That means you think we are lesser than you and we need to be insulted for some reason. It's obviously you thrive on being insulted -- normal people don't, and don't deserve to be insulted. That's abuse. Where did I say I was Jesus? I am a follower of Jesus, please get that correct. You insult me on here all the time, isn’t that abused from you? You complaint, talk and abused me too much on here. It’s good to get a taste of your own medicine. |
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Post by nathan2 on Oct 10, 2024 19:39:09 GMT -5
Man, you are a 2x2 church elder for 50 years ? of Jesus Christ 1st Century of His New Testament in the 21st century and you don’t understand this? Are you sure it was the Holy Spirit who anointed you as the church elder? Read in John 10 Jesus is talking about His Fold and he is the First shepherd and his apostles and the church elders are his underspherds of the lambs and sheep of God. Jesus fold/assembly of his followers began to grow bigger in numbers through the leading, helping of the Holy Spirit who came down from heaven to assist the ministry and his followers in the GREAT Mission Matthew 28:16-20. Jesus foretold in Matthew 24:14 the gospel, the New Testament fold will continue on and reach to all nations, then He will returns to collect them all around the world. Read Matthew 24:24-31. A fold is a sheep pen where the shepherd leads his sheep for overnight protection. Then in the morning he leads them out to pasture. You seem to think that a religious organisation is the fold Jesus spoke of. That is what we read in the gospels and in the book of Acts, the epistles of the apostles, an organization family of God the New Testament Church of Jesus Christ and He is coming back for us. |
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Post by nathan2 on Oct 10, 2024 19:41:08 GMT -5
🤭🤔 Sometimes, you have to get their attention and make them think! Like Jesus with the Pharisees who always rejected his teachings and he tried to let the people who they really are Read Matthew 23 so, the listeners NOT to listen to them and STAY away from them, because their teachings bring bondage into their lives. Our challenge is to get your attention and make you think. That is what I am doing to you and your cronies on here for over 20 years.🤭Well, I sure have learned a lot from you and your gang of cronies from all these years. |
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Post by Pragmatic on Oct 10, 2024 19:56:28 GMT -5
Your responses are so predictable, and we have seen them so many times
1) When you can't provide and answer, or know you're in the wrong, it's let the readers decide.
2) You make statement justifying your actions by invoking Jesus actions. You get called out for that with the 'You're not Jesus' comment, and you then bluster away saying 'Where did I say I was Jesus'?
3) You keep saying you have learned a lot, but I would like to what you have learned? I am not seeing an increase in knowledge, or signs of growth.
4) You talk to your fanclub in a totally different language to that of those on the 'outside' of your club. Respector of persons, maybe?
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Post by nathan2 on Oct 10, 2024 20:05:47 GMT -5
Your responses are so predictable, and we have seen them so many times 1) When you can't provide and answer, or know you're in the wrong, it's let the readers decide. 2) You make statement justifying your actions by invoking Jesus actions. You get called out for that with the 'You're not Jesus' comment, and you then bluster away saying 'Where did I say I was Jesus'? 3) You keep saying you have learned a lot, but I would like to what you have learned? I am not seeing an increase in knowledge, or signs of growth. 4) You talk to your fanclub in a totally different language to that of those on the 'outside' of your club. Respector of persons, maybe? Maybe! I want to be fair to those, who show me respect and the respect of the Godhead whom I served and worshipped. |
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Post by Pragmatic on Oct 10, 2024 20:27:13 GMT -5
So you admit to being deliberately unfair to those who you perceive as not?
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