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Post by fixit on Oct 10, 2024 20:58:44 GMT -5
A fold is a sheep pen where the shepherd leads his sheep for overnight protection. Then in the morning he leads them out to pasture. You seem to think that a religious organisation is the fold Jesus spoke of. That is what we read in the gospels and in the book of Acts, the epistles of the apostles, an organization family of God the New Testament Church of Jesus Christ and He is coming back for us. The following comes to mind... 1 Corinthians 5:9 I wrote to you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral persons, 10 not at all meaning the sexually immoral of this world, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters, since you would then need to go out of the world. 11 But now I am writing to you not to associate with anyone who bears the name of brother or sister who is sexually immoral or greedy or an idolater, reviler, drunkard, or swindler. Do not even eat with such a one.
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Post by nathan2 on Oct 10, 2024 21:08:12 GMT -5
That is what we read in the gospels and in the book of Acts, the epistles of the apostles, an organization family of God the New Testament Church of Jesus Christ and He is coming back for us. The following comes to mind... 1 Corinthians 5:9 I wrote to you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral persons, 10 not at all meaning the sexually immoral of this world, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters, since you would then need to go out of the world. 11 But now I am writing to you not to associate with anyone who bears the name of brother or sister who is sexually immoral or greedy or an idolater, reviler, drunkard, or swindler. Do not even eat with such a one. So, why are you still have a 2x2 Sunday morning in your home, and associate with these immoral 2x2s workers who appointed you as an elder for over 50 years? Are you an ex-2x2 church elder now?
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Post by nathan2 on Oct 10, 2024 21:20:01 GMT -5
So you admit to being deliberately unfair to those who you perceive as not? Like Paul, Dan, Wally and myself posted for many years! In Roman “IF” it’s possible Try to be peaceful to ALL, don’t let anyone treats you like a walking carpet or a punching bag constantly, or take an advantage of your kindness! Remember, Don’t POKE the bear too many times, you know what will happen. 😁 King Solomon said there is a time for everything, a time to talk, a time to keep silence, and a time to fight back…
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Post by fixit on Oct 10, 2024 21:20:40 GMT -5
The following comes to mind... 1 Corinthians 5:9 I wrote to you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral persons, 10 not at all meaning the sexually immoral of this world, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters, since you would then need to go out of the world. 11 But now I am writing to you not to associate with anyone who bears the name of brother or sister who is sexually immoral or greedy or an idolater, reviler, drunkard, or swindler. Do not even eat with such a one. So, why are you still have a 2x2 Sunday morning in your home, and associate with these immoral 2x2s workers who appointed you as an elder for over 50 years? Are you an ex-2x2 church elder now? I'm called to expose the fruitless deeds of darkness. Have you noticed my footer? Let us behave decently, as in the daytime, not in carousing and drunkenness, not in sexual immorality and debauchery, not in dissension and jealousy. ~ Romans 13:13 The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery. ~ Galatians 5:19 Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them. ~ Ephesians 5:11
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Post by nathan2 on Oct 10, 2024 21:22:28 GMT -5
So, why are you still have a 2x2 Sunday morning in your home, and associate with these immoral 2x2s workers who appointed you as an elder for over 50 years? Are you an ex-2x2 church elder now? I'm called to expose the fruitless deeds of darkness. Have you noticed my footer? Let us behave decently, as in the daytime, not in carousing and drunkenness, not in sexual immorality and debauchery, not in dissension and jealousy. ~ Romans 13:13 The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery. ~ Galatians 5:19 Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them. ~ Ephesians 5:11 You are a joke, they won’t listen to you. They KNOW too much about you and what you are doing to them on TMB, and from what I have read your posts on here for over 20 years.
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Post by fixit on Oct 10, 2024 21:22:31 GMT -5
Remember, Don’t POKE the bear too many times, you know what will happen. 😁 Why are you a bear rather than a lamb? Luke 10:3 Go on your way; I am sending you out like lambs into the midst of wolves.
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Post by nathan2 on Oct 10, 2024 21:26:36 GMT -5
Remember, Don’t POKE the bear too many times, you know what will happen. 😁 Why are you a bear rather than a lamb? Jesus was from the tribe of Judah/a Lion Read Matthew 23. Jesus is also a Lamb of God to those, who love Him. So, I am both the bear/lion and and a lamb like my Savior and God Jesus.
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Post by nathan2 on Oct 10, 2024 21:29:35 GMT -5
Remember, Don’t POKE the bear too many times, you know what will happen. 😁 Why are you a bear rather than a lamb? Luke 10:3 Go on your way; I am sending you out like lambs into the midst of wolves. Jesus also said be wise as a serpent to blend in with the surrounding and be harmless as a dove.
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Post by fixit on Oct 10, 2024 21:53:46 GMT -5
Why are you a bear rather than a lamb? Luke 10:3 Go on your way; I am sending you out like lambs into the midst of wolves. Jesus also said be wise as a serpent to blend in with the surrounding and be harmless as a dove. So what are you? A bear, a serpent, a lamb or a dove?
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Post by nathan2 on Oct 10, 2024 22:42:26 GMT -5
Jesus also said be wise as a serpent to blend in with the surrounding and be harmless as a dove. So what are you? A bear, a serpent, a lamb or a dove? I can be all of them just depend on the circumstances and situations of the times, just don’t POKE the bear too many times.
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Post by BobWilliston on Oct 10, 2024 22:48:16 GMT -5
But YOU are NOT Jesus. And you're admitting to treating some of us like Sadducees and Pharisees. That means you think we are lesser than you and we need to be insulted for some reason. It's obviously you thrive on being insulted -- normal people don't, and don't deserve to be insulted. That's abuse. Where did I say I was Jesus? You claimed Jesus' right to insult people. You're NOT Jesus, and you don't have his authority. You would command far more respect if you didn't pose as Jesus' judge of others. No one appreciates it. And you learned NOTHING from it. The only thing I complain about you is your nasty judgmental dialog against people you want to insult. If that's insulting to you, I doing that RIGHT NOW, because YOU BELIEVE in insulting people to make them behave. No one needs to put up with your insults just because YOU want to insult others. You have no more status here than anyone else.
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Post by BobWilliston on Oct 10, 2024 23:04:42 GMT -5
I'm called to expose the fruitless deeds of darkness. Have you noticed my footer? Let us behave decently, as in the daytime, not in carousing and drunkenness, not in sexual immorality and debauchery, not in dissension and jealousy. ~ Romans 13:13 The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery. ~ Galatians 5:19 Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them. ~ Ephesians 5:11 You are a joke, they won’t listen to you. They KNOW too much about you and what you are doing to them on TMB, and from what I have read your posts on here for over 20 years. Your narcissism is showing through. You have no intention whatsoever to apologize for anything, despite the fact that you know perfectly well why people complain about you. You reserve the right to denigrate all opinions of others because you believe all of your opinions are better than every others. This is not your private domain to do that with others.
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Post by nathan2 on Oct 10, 2024 23:25:29 GMT -5
Where did I say I was Jesus? You claimed Jesus' right to insult people. You're NOT Jesus, and you don't have his authority. You would command far more respect if you didn't pose as Jesus' judge of others. No one appreciates it. And you learned NOTHING from it. The only thing I complain about you is your nasty judgmental dialog against people you want to insult. If that's insulting to you, I doing that RIGHT NOW, because YOU BELIEVE in insulting people to make them behave. No one needs to put up with your insults just because YOU want to insult others. You have no more status here than anyone else. Don’t insult me then I don’t insult you! Very simple solution. Remember, when you dish out to people, you will get it back in return. Look in the mirror yourself, when you smile it’s smile back at you, but when you clench your fist, it clench back. That is the facts of life! It takes TWO to tango so, don’t start the tango first yourself. I no longer put up, With many of the nonsense attacks and insults on me and my family! 20 years Enough is Enough, I am NOT your dang punching bag, anymore just because you’re no longer believe in Jesus Christ New Testament teachings, you believe is a Cult. 😤
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Post by fixit on Oct 10, 2024 23:32:06 GMT -5
Where did I say I was Jesus? You claimed Jesus' right to insult people. You're NOT Jesus, and you don't have his authority. You would command far more respect if you didn't pose as Jesus' judge of others. No one appreciates it. And you learned NOTHING from it. The only thing I complain about you is your nasty judgmental dialog against people you want to insult. If that's insulting to you, I doing that RIGHT NOW, because YOU BELIEVE in insulting people to make them behave. No one needs to put up with your insults just because YOU want to insult others. You have no more status here than anyone else. Some people who have been in the work would have been obnoxious if they had ever been put in charge of a field. Entitled, superior, manipulative know-it-alls.
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Post by BobWilliston on Oct 10, 2024 23:39:17 GMT -5
You claimed Jesus' right to insult people. You're NOT Jesus, and you don't have his authority. You would command far more respect if you didn't pose as Jesus' judge of others. No one appreciates it. And you learned NOTHING from it. The only thing I complain about you is your nasty judgmental dialog against people you want to insult. If that's insulting to you, I doing that RIGHT NOW, because YOU BELIEVE in insulting people to make them behave. No one needs to put up with your insults just because YOU want to insult others. You have no more status here than anyone else. Don’t insult me then I don’t insult you! Very simple solution. Remember, when you dish out to people, you will get it back in return. Look in the mirror yourself, when you smile it’s smile back at you, but when you clench your fist, it clench back. That is the facts of life! It takes TWO to tango so, don’t start the tango first yourself. Remember, this conversation started with a complaint about your insulting behavior. So now it's time for you to do this: Don’t insult people who don’t insult you! Very simple solution. Remember, when you dish out to people, you will get it back in return. Look in the mirror yourself, when you smile it’s smile back at you, but when you clench your fist, it clench back. That is the facts of life! It takes TWO to tango so, don’t start the tango first yourself. However, YOU always have to have the last word. That's your narcissism showing through. You simply CANNOT stop defending yourselfagainst my complaints. I'm not even asking for an apology -- I'm just waiting for you to stop defending yourself and you will hear nothing from me, unless I can find a compliment. If you'd just learn to let things go you'd not get yourself so worked up that you have to insult people to let you have the last word.
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Post by nathan2 on Oct 10, 2024 23:54:10 GMT -5
Don’t insult me then I don’t insult you! Very simple solution. Remember, when you dish out to people, you will get it back in return. Look in the mirror yourself, when you smile it’s smile back at you, but when you clench your fist, it clench back. That is the facts of life! It takes TWO to tango so, don’t start the tango first yourself. Remember, this conversation started with a complaint about your insulting behavior. So now it's time for you to do this: Don’t insult people who don’t insult you! Very simple solution. Remember, when you dish out to people, you will get it back in return. Look in the mirror yourself, when you smile it’s smile back at you, but when you clench your fist, it clench back. That is the facts of life! It takes TWO to tango so, don’t start the tango first yourself. However, YOU always have to have the last word. That's your narcissism showing through. You simply CANNOT stop defending yourselfagainst my complaints. I'm not even asking for an apology -- I'm just waiting for you to stop defending yourself and you will hear nothing from me, unless I can find a compliment. If you'd just learn to let things go you'd not get yourself so worked up that you have to insult people to let you have the last word. 🥱🙄
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Post by nathan2 on Oct 10, 2024 23:57:08 GMT -5
You claimed Jesus' right to insult people. You're NOT Jesus, and you don't have his authority. You would command far more respect if you didn't pose as Jesus' judge of others. No one appreciates it. And you learned NOTHING from it. The only thing I complain about you is your nasty judgmental dialog against people you want to insult. If that's insulting to you, I doing that RIGHT NOW, because YOU BELIEVE in insulting people to make them behave. No one needs to put up with your insults just because YOU want to insult others. You have no more status here than anyone else. Some people who have been in the work would have been obnoxious if they had ever been put in charge of a field. Entitled, superior, manipulative know-it-alls. Like I said I don’t know it all, I just have learned a lot of interesting information and I want to share, educate and warns of the great danger to come around the corner. You can believe it or NOT it’s up to you. Just scroll up, down or skip reading it because the message is NOT for you. FREE speech, you know.
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Post by maryhig on Oct 11, 2024 2:18:57 GMT -5
But Paul didn't say that Nathan, he didn't say what you are saying. Can you show me chapter and verse please? It's a simple question? Again where is this in the bible as you have written it here below? It pleased God by preaching the message Jesus DIED on Calvary to SAVE them that are SAVED. I've gone through the verses that you have mentioned in 1 Corinthians 1 and what you have written isn't there? So where is it? Are you that slow naturally and spiritually speaking that you are NOT able to see and understand what Paul wrote in 1) I Cor. 1:18-26. And it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching of the CROSS to SAVE them that believe it’s the Power and Wisdom of God. 2) Compare to Jesus teachings in John 3:14-16 And as Moses lifted up the serpent pole in the Wilderness even so MUST the Son be lifted Up! (DIED on Calvary Cross), that whosoever believe on him shall receive ETERNAL life. 3) Jesus both, life, death on Calvary Cross to save and redeemed mortal sinners was planned before the foundation of the world Read I Peter 1: 19-20 and the book of Isiah 53 foretold of the purpose of his life from birth and his death on the CROSS to redeem or SAVE us sinners / whose names are NOT written in the book of life= which means eternal Second death/ Separate from God’s presence forever. Revelation chapter 20. Jesus said to the Pharisees! You are NOT MY Sheep so you can’t understand and HEAR My Voice/teachings. My sheep hear MY Voice and they believe in MY words/teachings Read John 10. Why aren’t you believe stubbornly NOT in believing in Jesus, the Old Testament and apostles teachings? You read these verses posted before you but it seems you are so blind to JESUS life, Blood and His Death on Calvary can’t Redeem you totally100%. Many on here Dan, Mountain, SharonW, Reborn, Lee, Wally, Dennis J. Mary, myself and many others have tried for many years! On TMB. It seems you are believing, teaching in a different gospel that Jesus Death on the CROSS doesn’t save me, but I believe in Him. You got the cart before the horse. This type of teachings is very dangerous because it’s condemned by God for Eternity READ what Paul wrote in Galatians 1:8-9. Don't be so cheeky, what do you mean "are you that slow" who do you think you are? You're not above anyone else! And no, I'm not slow, the difference is I can see that Paul means the cross of Christ as in the same cross that Jesus tells us that we must pick up when we follow him, not the literal wooden one! That natural wooden cross was just a murder weapon it can't save anyone, you need to stop worshipping it!
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Oct 11, 2024 2:24:34 GMT -5
Some people who have been in the work would have been obnoxious if they had ever been put in charge of a field. Entitled, superior, manipulative know-it-alls. Like I said I don’t know it all, I just have learned a lot of interesting information and I want to share, educate and warns of the great danger to come around the corner. You can believe it or NOT it’s up to you. Just scroll up, down or skip reading it because the message is NOT for you. FREE speech, you know. Like I said I don’t know it all, I just have learned a lot of UNinteresting MISinformation and I want to share, educate and warns of the great danger to come around the corner. You can believe it or NOT it’s up to you. Just scroll up, down or skip reading it because the message is NOT for you. FREE speech, you know. I've fixed a couple of mistakes you made in your post Nathan.
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Post by maryhig on Oct 11, 2024 2:30:42 GMT -5
I thought you didn't judge anyone? So what's this then? Quote: mackin75 It is true, I don't believe a Christian who rejects his crucifixion is saved, because rejecting his sacrifice for sin leaves a person guilty of sin, and the 'wages of sin is death'. That sure looks like judging you me? By the way, when Jesus said to take this cup, he said to drink it in remembrance of him. Not of him dying on the cross. It's to remember him, and I remember him, his life and the sacrifice he made when he laid down his life to live by the will of God and bring us the gospel. Jesus own words and teachings will either SAVE you or condemned and Judged you. It seems you believe and teach a half-Truth gospel Read John 3:10-21. Once you don’t understand the Godhead’s function and each Divine Person of the Godhead role in our Salvation then your teachings and preaching is NOT fully complete and understandable. You or anyone can copy and paste these verses on here so the readers can read it. I can’t copy and paste verses on my IPhone, because the Adm. and his moderators restricted me from copy and paste on my registered main 🖥️ Thanks! Paul encouraged Timothy to Preach, teach and interpret the scriptures correctly because it will SAVE his own life/soul and the lives of those who listen to the gospel of Christ that he presented to the hearers. Paul cast two teachers or apostles to Satan for teachings false doctrines for saying the Resurrection already happened and made shipwrecked of Jesus followers’ faith, in God and Christ. I Timothy 2:19-20; II Timothy 4:1-4; II Tim. 2:15-19. Yes the words of Jesus will judge us all including you. And Jesus never once said we must believe that he is going to die to save us, for us to be saved or that he is God. Not once, nowhere! In fact, what Jesus said is we must endure to the end to be saved, so we're not all saved once we just say we believe! We are forgiven of our past sins once we truly repent but then we are to turn from sin and live by the will of God and as Jesus said, endure to the end to be saved. And as we live by the will of God daily, then God will help us to overcome the world and the works of our flesh saving us from the ways of this world, that's the salvation in the here and now. But we must keep our faith, and endure to the end to be eternally saved. If any of the 2x2s believe as you do, then I'm gobsmacked!
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Post by fixit on Oct 11, 2024 3:11:49 GMT -5
If any of the 2x2s believe as you do, then I'm gobsmacked! I would be too. Nathan is a one-off.
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Post by maryhig on Oct 11, 2024 3:27:13 GMT -5
I thought you didn't judge anyone? So what's this then? It is true, I don't believe a Christian who rejects his crucifixion is saved, because rejecting his sacrifice for sin leaves a person guilty of sin, and the 'wages of sin is death'. That sure looks like judging you me? By the way, when Jesus said to take this cup, he said to drink it in remembrance of him. Not of him dying on the cross. It's to remember him, and I remember him, his life and the sacrifice he made when he laid down his life to live by the will of God and bring us the gospel.
That's what I believe and the reason I believe it.. Its not judging or condemning others. I'm just stating that anyone who's sinned will perish, and I believe it because the bible says "The wages of sin is death". It doesn't matter how good you are, "For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all” (James 2:10). Jesus took our sins upon himself, and that's the saving grace that freed us from sin, "He Himself bore our sins in His body on the cross" (1 Peter 2:24)
"By him, all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses" (Acts 13:38). How will you justify yourself on judgement day if your guilty of sin? Will you lay your sins at the foot of the cross?
Accepting the life and example of Christ is vital, but that includes the reason for his death and sacrifice. "Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage" (Galatians 5:1).
Its impossible to absolve yourself of sin, "If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed" (John 8:36).
But that is judging, you are judging who you think is saved and who isn't saved. Also, the wages of sin is death, that's dead to God not natural death. We will all die naturally, but if we carry on wilfully sinning once we know God and know the truth, then we will end up dead to him. As that's the wages of sin. Paul clearly says here below, that we can serve Satan and sin unto death, or serve God unto righteousness. This clearly isn't natural death, but spiritual death as we separate ourselves from God, wilfully sinning and putting ourselves and this world before him. Romans 6:15 What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid. 6:16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?
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Post by maryhig on Oct 11, 2024 3:28:42 GMT -5
If any of the 2x2s believe as you do, then I'm gobsmacked! I would be too. Nathan is a one-off. I know you all believe in the cross, but do you believe as they do that once you say you believe, you're saved regardless of what you do in your life. Past, present and future sins are all forgiven?
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Post by Annan on Oct 11, 2024 4:53:03 GMT -5
PERFORMING MY WATCHMAN DUTIES FOR ANY NEWBIE TO THE FORUM READING NATHAN’S POSTS. WHY NATHAN IS A LYING HYPOCRITE…Nathan is NOT a worker. NATHAN WAS DRIVEN OUT OF THE WORK FOR NOT HAVING A SUBMISSIVE SPIRIT. Nathan was too cowardly to let others know he was leaving the work and so he ran away from a special meeting where he was scheduled to speak. Nathan’s own wife and son do not profess. Nathan married his non-professing wife despite the workers’ objections and SCRIPTURE COMMANDS NOT TO BE YOKED WITH AN UNBELIEVER. Nathan claims certain workers SHOULD BE HUNG as he says they preach false 2x2 doctrine. Nathan teaches doctrine contrary to what the workers teach. NATHAN IS A SELF-APPOINTED WORKER INTERNET TROLL. Nathan was put in time out because he says the British Royal Family are evil alien reptilians and had Princess Diana killed. Nathan claims everything he says is true but provides no proof. NATHAN DOESN’T UNDERSTAND THAT HE CAN’T PROVE THE BIBLE BY QUOTING THE BIBLE no matter how many times this has been pointed out to him. Nathan was NOT born and bred in the cult. He is without understanding of what others have suffered at the hands of a lying and controlling cult. Nathan constantly spouts lies about the origins of the cult when there is paramount proof this is not true. Nathan wants what he believes to be true to the point that he adds to the scriptures and tells out and out lies! Nathan is NOT a 2x2 but a 1x1 preaching science fiction and FRANK STRANGES FAKE DEAD SEA SCROLLS GOSPEL AND JESUS LIVES IN VENUS. Nathan has NOT gone to Sunday morning meetings for years as he works at a gas station he says he sold. Nathan posts continuously online at work leaving his poor wife to shoulder the burden. Nathan also posts continuously at home abandoning his wife and child. NATHAN SHOWS NO FRUITS OF THE SPIRIT, ONLY UGLINESS AND CONDEMNATION. When backed into a corner, Nathan keeps saying “let’s agree to disagree” then NATHAN TRASHES AND DEMEANS THOSE THAT DON’T AGREE WITH HIS DELUSIONS AND SCIENCE FICTION. And then there’s the plagiarism! NATHAN IS THE FATHER OF LIES. NATHAN IGNORES JESUS’S WORDS OF MARK 6:11 THAT SAYS, “AND IF ANY PLACE WILL NOT WELCOME YOU OR LISTEN TO YOU, LEAVE THAT PLACE AND SHAKE THE DUST OFF YOUR FEET AS A TESTIMONY AGAINST THEM.” Nathan refuses to answer as to why he ignores Jesus’s commands. NATHAN CLAIMS HE IS LED BY THE HOLY SPIRIT BUT CANNOT AND WILL NOT EXPLAIN WHY THE HOLY SPIRIT LEADS OTHERS TO CONCLUSIONS THAT DO NOT MATCH NATHAN’S DELUSIONS. WHAT OTHERS THINK OF NATHAN “Christians do not post on this board because it is not a good place where Christians can be heard and respected due to you attacking them. You even attack your elders who post on here so that they don't post Scriptural things on here anymore. You present a false Gospel. You only praise people who tolerate your behavior.” “I do not post Christian things because of your attacks and false beliefs. It's your way or no way. YOU'VE TURNED THE BOARD INTO A HORRIBLE PLACE BY TAKING IT OVER WITH YOUR ATTACKS AND BEHAVIOR TOWARDS OTHERS AND YOUR CLAIMS THAT YOU ARE RIGHT AND OTHERS WRONG.” “You are so far off the mark with your behavior and beliefs that this board is not safe or pleasant. You accept no correction from others. I'm not sure what will wake you up. You have no respect for anyone except to praise those who support your poor behavior. You seem blind to truth.” “Much of what you post on the board shows an inability to know truth from error, fact from fiction. Your inability to respond to people in a respectful manner and support of Wally's behavior shows how far from reality you have become.” “False preachers take the easy way and preach to an audience that doesn’t want to hear their falseness. Get some guts and preach the trinity to your church and preach to people LIVE - it ain’t a living sermon when you’re doing it on the internet. It’s not God that is behind any of that sh-, it’s 100% purely the devil that you worship in the name of God. Are you so yellow bellied and two faced that you only preach the trinity on here? Are you drilling it into the 2x2s heads too! And what about all those workers whose doctrines are wrong? You don’t care enough about their soups to preach your illusions to them too? You are one massive hypocrite. More than any atheist or anyone else. Disgusting.” “You are delusional Nathan and wasted 20 years on here feeding your obsessions and internet addiction and try to make excuses for it. You have tried to destroy this board, with your delusions, given the fellowship and Christianity a bad name. Used the Bible as a tool for evil and not good. Your Gospel is false. Your posts prove what you preach and post on here are false. Stop making excuses for feeding your internet addiction. You are not special. You have not been sent here by God. Your posts reveal that you are unable to discern truth from error, fact from false, and delusions from reality. Wake up. You have strayed so far from the Bible and tried to mix your own delusions into it. You quote scripture which are nothing to do with what you post.” “Like others who rarely come to this board anymore because you have taken over and tried to destroy it, I too think what is the point in being here. It is an unhealthy place. It feeds your unhealthy obsessions. Better to let you live in your own little fantasy world. You do a good job of exposing yourself more every day. You take no notice of others who try and point out your errors, you're too far gone and stubborn to listen or understand how wrong you are.” READ ALL ABOUT IT!! LYING HYPOCRITE NATHAN! professing.proboards.com/thread/31236/nathan-liarMORE ABOUT NATIE ** Stop treating us like we know nothing, Natie. We were born and raised in the cult. You weren't. We know the scriptures as well as you do. We weren't born yesterday. Some of us know how to look beyond the child pedophile workers and seek the truth. If the workers are teaching false doctrine, then they are a false way. If you claim to be a 2x2, you must adhere to the teachings of the workers, not what you claim the holy spit teaches you. You are NOT a 2x2 no matter how much you pretend to be. You can't change the system. Give it up, Natie.
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Post by Pragmatic on Oct 11, 2024 5:05:30 GMT -5
I'm seeing Nathan now as a wolf in wolf's clothing.
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Post by nathan2 on Oct 11, 2024 6:40:51 GMT -5
Are you that slow naturally and spiritually speaking that you are NOT able to see and understand what Paul wrote in 1) I Cor. 1:18-26. And it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching of the CROSS to SAVE them that believe it’s the Power and Wisdom of God. 2) Compare to Jesus teachings in John 3:14-16 And as Moses lifted up the serpent pole in the Wilderness even so MUST the Son be lifted Up! (DIED on Calvary Cross), that whosoever believe on him shall receive ETERNAL life. 3) Jesus both, life, death on Calvary Cross to save and redeemed mortal sinners was planned before the foundation of the world Read I Peter 1: 19-20 and the book of Isiah 53 foretold of the purpose of his life from birth and his death on the CROSS to redeem or SAVE us sinners / whose names are NOT written in the book of life= which means eternal Second death/ Separate from God’s presence forever. Revelation chapter 20. Jesus said to the Pharisees! You are NOT MY Sheep so you can’t understand and HEAR My Voice/teachings. My sheep hear MY Voice and they believe in MY words/teachings Read John 10. Why are you stubbornly NOT in believing in Jesus, the Old Testament and apostles teachings? You read these verses posted before but it seems you are so blind to JESUS life, Blood and His Death on Calvary can’t Redeem you totally100%. Many on here Dan, Mountain, SharonW, Reborn, Lee, Wally, Dennis J. Mary, myself and many others have tried for many years! On TMB. It seems you are believing, teaching in a different gospel that Jesus Death on the CROSS doesn’t save me, but I believe in Him. You got the cart before the horse. This type of teachings is very dangerous because it’s condemned by God for Eternity READ what Paul wrote in Galatians 1:8-9. Don't be so cheeky, what do you mean "are you that slow" who do you think you are? You're not above anyone else! And no, I'm not slow, the difference is I can see that Paul means the cross of Christ as in the same cross that Jesus tells us that we must pick up when we follow him, not the literal wooden one! That natural wooden cross was just a murder weapon it can't save anyone, you need to stop worshipping it! Well, like Dan and many others on TMB have beautifully explained to us in their posts and you still don’t see it or believe it. Now, we know what you truly believe and you are NOT going to accept what the Godhead, had foretold in the scriptures before the foundation of the world that it’s through the Death and the shedding of Christ/God who came down from heaven to die on Calvary’s Cross to pay the ransom for the Immortal STUPID Adam and Eve’s disobedience in the garden of Eden, and the penalty is Eternal death/separation from God’s presence after death! That penalty passed on to ALL of their mortal human children on earth. Read Rev. chapter 20. To Save All humans sinners from the Second Death, Christ/God had to come down from heaven to die as a mortal human being to endure to SAVE us all from the Second death in the Person God/man Christ/Jesus. Matthew 1:23; Colossians 1:23. It was explained to Adam, Eve and the rest of humanity the Godhead plans of Redemption for us in Genesis 3:15; Isiah 53 and little glimpses for the next 4000 years through the men of God such as Abel, Enoch, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, the prophets, Moses, king David, King Solomon, and many others men of God about the coming MESSIAH to SAVE humanity the literal Death of Jesus was to pay for our own penalty sins of Rejection and disobedience/ the Second Death, which is ETERNAL Separation from God’s presence forever.. On Calvary’s Cross Jesus the Second Person of the Godhead, came down from heaven to Pay for our ransom price of the Second death, that each human mortal must face after the judgment day! The Second Death Jesus endured on Calvary was so horrific that God allowed Jesus died by the Romans Crucifixion way of death so we mortal humans can see and understand the Second Death is much worse than the natural death millions times because it’s ETERNAL! On Calvary Cross Jesus the Son of man died and tasted the first and Second Death, his Spirit went to hades or separated from God the Father’s presence and after 3 days and night, He raised Jesus up from the Second Death because he paid the penalty for our sins. Read the parable of Jonah of Jesus died and went to Hades for 3 days and nights! Jesus was able to set FREE Adam, Eve and all of the Old Testament believers souls from Hades who had been staying in Satan’s prison Abraham’s bosom/paradise where all OT believers souls waiting for the Messiah/Christ God/Man to pay for their sins. Read Luke 16 Rich man and Lazarus. Now, as Christians under the Jesus Christ New Testament covenant, after death our souls go directly to be with God and Christ in heaven/Venus the Bright and Morning Star Read Rev.22:16; 3:22-26. When Jesus returns as king of kings to set up His eternal kingdom for 1000 years! God the Father will grant us the NEW resurrection bodies so, we can assist him to rule over the earth and the multi-universes. Rev. Chapters 19. That is the Godhead’s the plans of Redemption for the mortal humans sinner to enter the heaven gate Read Rev. chapters 21-22 after 1000 years reign and the Final judgment day had taken place and the newness of life with Christ and the Godhead forever! That was God’s planed when THEY created the humans as Immortal beings in the Garden of Eden. This is the Godhead gospel for the mortal human sinners redemption in the nutshell! 👍
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Post by nathan2 on Oct 11, 2024 7:38:43 GMT -5
They? So you're a polytheist. Yes! It’s THEY/ Polytheist Godhead NOT Monotheist El/single God. The KJV Bible translators made the mistakes when they translated into the English language. They didn’t explain the Word God/El is singular; and the the word God/Elohim is plural. They just translated God. They tried to explain the different the of the plural Godhead by translating the LORD/God the Father and Lord/Christ as Adonai in Ps. 110:1-2. King David said the LORD said unto my Lord/Christ sit thou at my right hand until I make thy enemies for your footstool. The word El/God is singular for God but in Genesis 1:26; Elohim God is used, God/ELOHIM/Plural more than 1 but 3 Supreme beings in ONE Godhead. 1) Genesis 1:26 the Word God there is Elohim/plural Godhead= God the Father, Christ God and the Holy Spirit God, said to one another, “ Let us Create man in Our imagine and in Our Likeness!” 2) In Genesis 3:22 And the Lord God/El Christ said, “ Behold man has become ONE of US to KNOW good and Evil…” Paul wrote in Philippians 2:5-12 Christ Jesus being in the form of God… That At the name of Jesus EVERY KNEE shall bow and tongue shall confess in heaven, under the earth and on the earth Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of the Father. Hebrews 1:8-12 God said to the Son, “Thy throne, O God is forever… and thou Lord, in the beginning has laid the foundation of the earth and the heavens are the works of thy hands. Christ God the Lord, was the Co-Creator of the Universe With God the Father of Adam/Eve and ALL mankind/ Neanderthals and so on. Coll 2:9 For in Him/Christ dwells ALL the Fullness of the Godhead bodily. 3) In Genesis 1:1-2 In the beginning God/Elohim/plural Created the heaven and the earth… And the Spirit of God move upon the water. In acts 5:4 Peter said to Ananias and his wife, “Why has Satan filled your hearts to LIE to the Holy Ghost/Spirit to keep back part of the money for the land? Thou has NOT lie unto men But God /El. John the apostle wrote in I John 5: 7-8 For there are THREE that bear record in heaven God, Christ the Word God read John 1:1-3; Rev. 19:3 and the Holy Spirit.
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Post by Dan on Oct 11, 2024 7:49:28 GMT -5
Shame on you. Insulting people to get their attention. That makes you unworthy of anyone's attention. No one insults people they care anything for.
To be fair, its been a 2-way street for a long time.. The exchange of derogatory comments are the result of people believing different things. Annan and curlywurlysammagee have dished-out a ton of insults towards Nathan too. Demeaning comments are mutual, some attitudes in attack mode and others in defense. I guess polar opposites will never 'respect' opposing opinions, so insulting commentary is the unfortunate result.
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