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Post by benar on Apr 28, 2019 22:52:14 GMT -5
openingact34 Great list, and nice summaries of each one. Ross has had a mercurial elevation, a fortnight ago I dare say he mightn't have even rated an Honorable Mention. I'm surprised TMB as a whole didn't get a mention (it's been around awhile, it started on 2 April 2003, and we've got at least one member still active who joined on that day). admin
Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied about them: “See, the Lord is coming with thousands upon thousands of his holy ones to judge everyone, and to convict all of them of all the ungodly acts they have committed in their ungodliness, and of all the defiant words ungodly sinners have spoken against him.”
Heb. 10:10-11 For we know him who said, “It is mine to avenge; I will repay,” and again, “The Lord will judge his people.” It is a dreadful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
I Peter 4:17-18 For it is time for judgment to begin with God’s household; and if it begins with us, what will the outcome be for those who do not obey the gospel of God? And, “If it is hard for the righteous to be saved, what will become of the ungodly and the sinner?”More base-less assertions, Nathan. |
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Post by nathan on Apr 28, 2019 23:00:04 GMT -5
~~ God keeps all kinds of lists, names to sentence the ones who fight against him to send them to the everlasting lake of fire.... Anyone of us on TMB will wish and hope that none of us will be on God's KILLING fields list.
Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied about them: “See, the Lord is coming with thousands upon thousands of his holy ones to judge everyone, and to convict all of them of all the ungodly acts they have committed in their ungodliness, and of all the defiant words ungodly sinners have spoken against him.”
Heb. 10:10-11 For we know him who said, “It is mine to avenge; I will repay,” and again, “The Lord will judge his people.” It is a dreadful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
I Peter 4:17-18 For it is time for judgment to begin with God’s household; and if it begins with us, what will the outcome be for those who do not obey the gospel of God? And, “If it is hard for the righteous to be saved, what will become of the ungodly and the sinner?” More base-less assertions, Nathan.
Rev. 20:11-15 Then I/John apostle saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. The earth and the heavens fled from his presence, and there was no place for them. And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Another book was opened, which is the book of life. The dead were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books.
The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to what they had done. Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death. Anyone whose name was not found written in the book of life was thrown into the lake of fire. |
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Post by benar on Apr 28, 2019 23:28:03 GMT -5
More base-less assertions, Nathan.
No you don't, Nathan. You believe that this is the case, based on a book, written by men. A Muslim could just as easily assert that you are going to hell for not being a good Muslim, based on exactly the same 'evidence' you have. |
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Post by openingact34 on Apr 28, 2019 23:32:08 GMT -5
I don't think God would trivialise by keepings lists. Not unless God has an Angel with a Laptop. I imagine the angels enjoy visiting your website and learning from it. If they asked you for a list of the top enemies of truth, who would be on it and in what order? |
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Post by openingact34 on Apr 28, 2019 23:39:00 GMT -5
The word hate was probably not the best word choice, but certainly the older generation used to refer to the "Enemy" or the "Enemies of Truth" I suspect these term are a throwback to the Irish Catholic vs Protestant days of the previous century, and maybe also to the early Biblical times when people were forced underground and the Lions enjoyed a picnic. The church should be grateful for honest people of courage who have spoken against injustice, immorality, bullying etc. They are friends, not enemies. Hate may not be the term that the Friends and Workers use openly, but I think it is exactly the right word. Doug Parker wrote about trying to talk to the workers about admitting the history of the cult: It still happens today. Remember how Bert would continually target Cherie and even the deceased Doug Parker with all sorts of crazy accusations until he finally got banned from TMB? That was mild compared to the things that professing people are saying about Cherie. What have you been hearing about Ross over the last couple weeks? |
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Post by Pragmatic on Apr 28, 2019 23:47:44 GMT -5
Yes I remember Bert on here, quite unhinged. I haven't heard stuff being said about Cherie, or Ross, who seems to have made a move up the Leaderboard. Certainly the older generation regarded those "who aren't in it" as being against it. Some probably did hate......there was an unhinged worker here who once preached that "Catholic have been dead the longest, that's why they stink the most". I guess you could call it hate in his case.
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Post by nathan on Apr 28, 2019 23:49:33 GMT -5
I Know this for a FACT that the Guardian angels of God do KEEP lists of history, events and people for the Judgment DAY when everyone/unbelievers will appear before the judgment Seat of Christ and God the Father. I imagine the angels enjoy visiting your website and learning from it. If they asked you for a list of the top enemies of truth, who would be on it and in what order?  It wasn't by accident that some of the professing people are posting on tmb. We had helped from above.
1) Cherie TTT websites. Does the most damage to the 2x2s.
2) The secret sect book did some damages.
The rest of anti-2x2s books and websites out there didn't harm the 2x2 very much....
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Post by BobWilliston on Apr 28, 2019 23:53:27 GMT -5
Soooo . . . should I take some solace from this?
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Post by nathan on Apr 28, 2019 23:57:47 GMT -5
** Yes, there is still time to change and REPENT before death comes then it will be too late to change it.
Death seals all choices. Will I have to profess again? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2019 23:59:20 GMT -5
Yes I remember Bert on here, quite unhinged. I haven't heard stuff being said about Cherie, or Ross, who seems to have made a move up the Leaderboard. Certainly the older generation regarded those "who aren't in it" as being against it. Some probably did hate......there was an unhinged worker here who once preached that "Catholic have been dead the longest, that's why they stink the most". I guess you could call it hate in his case. i miss bert he had a way of putting things that left no question as to the right or wrong of an issue..... |
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Post by BobWilliston on Apr 29, 2019 0:03:08 GMT -5
Have you not been listening? Ask Wally and Nathan why my name isn't on the list. Top 10 over 120 years is some seriously rarified air. I had to leave off dozens of book authors, protesters, website owners, and others. How high do you think you rank? What does your list look like? I have no real way of knowing. The only worker feedback I have ever gotten since I quit going to meetings is what a sister worker told my mother, who lives 3500 miles from here. The sister worker was the younger companion here when I had the major confrontation with the workers, and she was visiting at my Mom's convention at the time, and she told my Mom the my wife and I had suffered greatly from what went on in our field. You should read my book about what happened. |
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Post by Pragmatic on Apr 29, 2019 0:05:02 GMT -5
** Yes, there is still time to change and REPENT before death comes then it will be too late to change it.
Death seals all choices. Will I have to profess again? Yes Bob, just like the Ethiopian Eunuch, you will be invited to stand during the fourth verse of a Hymn. You will have to wait some months before baptism however, just to make sure you've got it! |
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Post by BobWilliston on Apr 29, 2019 0:05:22 GMT -5
Will I have to profess again? Forget. Where did you get the notion that I would have to forget anything? |
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Post by BobWilliston on Apr 29, 2019 0:06:59 GMT -5
Will I have to profess again? Yes Bob, just like the Ethiopian Eunuch, you will be invited to stand during the fourth verse of a Hymn. You will have to wait some months before baptism however, just to make sure you've got it! I hope becoming a eunuch isn't one of the requirements. |
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Post by BobWilliston on Apr 29, 2019 0:10:11 GMT -5
I imagine the angels enjoy visiting your website and learning from it. If they asked you for a list of the top enemies of truth, who would be on it and in what order?
1) Cherie TTT websites. Does the most damage to the 2x2s.
2) The secret sect book did some damages.
The rest of anti-2x2s books and websites out there didn't harm the 2x2 very much....
In the book I wrote I specifically stated that I would never tell anyone to leave the 2x2's. Does that help? |
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Post by BobWilliston on Apr 29, 2019 0:19:15 GMT -5
Hate may not be the term that the Friends and Workers use openly, but I think it is exactly the right word. Doug Parker wrote about trying to talk to the workers about admitting the history of the cult: Well, maybe I am on the list. But something tells me that if the angels read my book they might just put some of the workers on the list.  |
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Post by openingact34 on Apr 29, 2019 0:28:57 GMT -5
I KNOW This... the angels of God has been WATCHING people earth and keep records since the days of Adam and Eve.... even to this day! getting ready all the records in order for the judgment day. The Guardian human angels KNOW what I am doing on TMB. It wasn't by accident that some of the professing people are posting on tmb. We had helped from above.
1) Cherie TTT websites. Does the most damage to the 2x2s.
2) The secret sect book did some damages.
The rest of anti-2x2s books and websites out there didn't harm the 2x2 very much....
In the book I wrote I specifically stated that I would never tell anyone to leave the 2x2's. Does that help? If your goal is a low ranking on the enemies list, yes it helps. |
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Post by nathan on Apr 29, 2019 0:39:33 GMT -5
What do you think? Do you want to forget the past and start with a clean sheet? Whatever you think is best for you. Forget. Where did you get the notion that I would have to forget anything? |
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Post by nathan on Apr 29, 2019 0:42:20 GMT -5
I KNOW This... the angels of God has been WATCHING people earth and keep records since the days of Adam and Eve.... even to this day! getting ready all the records in order for the judgment day. The Guardian human angels KNOW what I am doing on TMB. It wasn't by accident that some of the professing people are posting on tmb. We had helped from above.
1) Cherie TTT websites. Does the most damage to the 2x2s.
2) The secret sect book did some damages.
The rest of anti-2x2s books and websites out there didn't harm the 2x2 very much....
In the book I wrote I specifically stated that I would never tell anyone to leave the 2x2's. Does that help?
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Post by nathan on Apr 29, 2019 0:53:38 GMT -5
Hate may not be the term that the Friends and Workers use openly, but I think it is exactly the right word. Doug Parker wrote about trying to talk to the workers about admitting the history of the cult: Well, maybe I am on the list. But something tells me that if the angels read my book they might just put some of the workers on the list. |
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Post by openingact34 on Apr 29, 2019 1:05:57 GMT -5
I imagine the angels enjoy visiting your website and learning from it. If they asked you for a list of the top enemies of truth, who would be on it and in what order?
1) Cherie TTT websites. Does the most damage to the 2x2s.
2) The secret sect book did some damages.
The rest of anti-2x2s books and websites out there didn't harm the 2x2 very much....
Wow, Cherie at #1!!! I guess there is some debate after all. I see the point that Telling The Truth has reached the most people. But here's my argument: Without either Parker or Trimble, the workers probably could have gotten away with the lies about the history, and could have covered William Irvine up for decades or maybe even a century more if not indefinitely. Without the Impartial Reporter, Parker probably would have still found and interviewed witnesses to the early days of 2x2ism. Without Parker, Cherie or others probably still would have found the Impartial Reporter articles. But without newspaper articles and too late for primary source witnesses, we still might be waiting for the first clues to emerge! One of the workers (maybe George Walker?) once said something to the effect of "we almost got away with it undiscovered". Trimble and Parker also get extra credit for their more inflamatory writings, whereas Cherie has been less sensational, even turning down ownership of VOT |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2019 1:26:48 GMT -5
I imagine the angels enjoy visiting your website and learning from it. If they asked you for a list of the top enemies of truth, who would be on it and in what order?
1) Cherie TTT websites. Does the most damage to the 2x2s.
2) The secret sect book did some damages.
The rest of anti-2x2s books and websites out there didn't harm the 2x2 very much....
You had better watch out if the angel is watching you Nathan, bet she/ he’s given up writing the records on the Venus fabrication, Thor etc etc She’s probably cross -eyed by now and reaching for a stiff whiskey. 1. Nathan and..... ( review in the past) does the most damage to the 2x2’s online . I’m not so sure friends and workers want association with you, well your posts. Hard pill to swallow but time to reflect mate. 2. The secret sect addressed reality. |
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Post by nathan on Apr 29, 2019 1:29:24 GMT -5
I KNOW This... the angels of God has been WATCHING people earth and keep records since the days of Adam and Eve.... even to this day! getting ready all the records in order for the judgment day. The Guardian human angels KNOW what I am doing on TMB. It wasn't by accident that some of the professing people are posting on tmb. We had helped from above.
1) Cherie TTT websites. Does the most damage to the 2x2s.
2) The secret sect book did some damages.
The rest of anti-2x2s books and websites out there didn't harm the 2x2 very much....
Wow, Cherie at #1!!! I guess there is some debate after all. I see the point that Telling The Truth has reached the most people. But here's my argument: Without either Parker or Trimble, the workers probably could have gotten away with the lies about the history, and could have covered William Irvine up for decades or maybe even a century more if not indefinitely. Without the Impartial Reporter, Parker probably would have still found and interviewed witnesses to the early days of 2x2ism. Without Parker, Cherie or others probably still would have found the Impartial Reporter articles. But without newspaper articles and too late for primary source witnesses, we still might be waiting for the first clues to emerge! One of the workers (maybe George Walker?) once said something to the effect of "we almost got away with it undiscovered". Trimble and Parker also get extra credit for their more inflamatory writings, whereas Cherie has been less sensational, even turning down ownership of VOT
I hate to be in Cherie K. shoes in the day of Judgment. We will know how many 2x2s left because of the information on her website that lead them astray and found themselves outside of the fold. I wonder how many of the ex-2x2s will thanks her after the judgment day... their crowns of eternal life were taken away! and their names blotted out the book of life.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2019 1:55:32 GMT -5
Absolute rubbish.
Probably hard for someone who takes ‘you tube as absolute fact’ to comprehend that normal people have a level of intelligence to question and reflect and consequently make their own choices in life . They don’t hold anybody responsible for their choices. They are mature adults.
Nobody was lead astray.
Only you-Tube leads the gullible astray.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2019 1:58:43 GMT -5
I KNOW This... the angels of God has been WATCHING people earth and keep records since the days of Adam and Eve.... even to this day! getting ready all the records in order for the judgment day. The Guardian human angels KNOW what I am doing on TMB. It wasn't by accident that some of the professing people are posting on tmb. We had helped from above.
1) Cherie TTT websites. Does the most damage to the 2x2s.
2) The secret sect book did some damages.
The rest of anti-2x2s books and websites out there didn't harm the 2x2 very much....
Wow, Cherie at #1!!! I guess there is some debate after all. I see the point that Telling The Truth has reached the most people. But here's my argument: Without either Parker or Trimble, the workers probably could have gotten away with the lies about the history, and could have covered William Irvine up for decades or maybe even a century more if not indefinitely. Without the Impartial Reporter, Parker probably would have still found and interviewed witnesses to the early days of 2x2ism. Without Parker, Cherie or others probably still would have found the Impartial Reporter articles. But without newspaper articles and too late for primary source witnesses, we still might be waiting for the first clues to emerge! One of the workers (maybe George Walker?) once said something to the effect of "we almost got away with it undiscovered". Trimble and Parker also get extra credit for their more inflamatory writings, whereas Cherie has been less sensational, even turning down ownership of VOT It just proves that the Bible verse at the bottom of the TTT home page is so true. Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the Truth? Galatians 4:16 |
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Post by nathan on Apr 29, 2019 2:04:10 GMT -5
Wow, Cherie at #1!!! I guess there is some debate after all. I see the point that Telling The Truth has reached the most people. But here's my argument: Without either Parker or Trimble, the workers probably could have gotten away with the lies about the history, and could have covered William Irvine up for decades or maybe even a century more if not indefinitely. Without the Impartial Reporter, Parker probably would have still found and interviewed witnesses to the early days of 2x2ism. Without Parker, Cherie or others probably still would have found the Impartial Reporter articles. But without newspaper articles and too late for primary source witnesses, we still might be waiting for the first clues to emerge! One of the workers (maybe George Walker?) once said something to the effect of "we almost got away with it undiscovered". Trimble and Parker also get extra credit for their more inflamatory writings, whereas Cherie has been less sensational, even turning down ownership of VOT It just proves that the Bible verse at the bottom of the TTT home page is so true. Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the Truth? Galatians 4:16
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2019 2:07:49 GMT -5
It just proves that the Bible verse at the bottom of the TTT home page is so true. Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the Truth? Galatians 4:16
I would hate to be you on your judgement day to account for all the nonsense you write on here under the true church banner. The embarrassment you cause your church. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2019 2:14:49 GMT -5
To change the tone a bit .( maybe a bit off topic) ..
I have to say, I was impressed with a N.Z. Worker, Stan Chamberlain speaking at the funeral of a young husband, father of 4 tragically killed in an accident. I think they weren’t in the church anymore but his words had the spirit of love and non-judgement and so humbly spoken. Well done Stan.
This is what wins souls, not the nonsense that continually is preached on this site by the same old people.
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