|
|
Post by snow on Jun 24, 2019 10:52:41 GMT -5
Interesting, are you actually putting Hitch and Jesus on the same level of importance? I think Hitch was by far the more rational of the two. Hitch was an atheist. He was actually more than that, he was an anti theist. |
|
|
|
Post by nathan on Jun 24, 2019 12:39:42 GMT -5
Maybe Hitch was a Bible student before... to know about heaven and hell. Maybe hitch was a believer but now he/she has become an atheist. Or a hardcore believer. Hitch was an atheist. He was actually more than that, he was an anti theist. ** Yep, according to his post he was NOT too happy camper. |
|
|
|
Post by snow on Jun 24, 2019 13:17:52 GMT -5
Hitch was an atheist. He was actually more than that, he was an anti theist. ** Yep, according to his post he was NOT too happy camper. I can't say I blame him. It's hard living in a world of people that don't really care to explore what is true and just what makes them feel good or what they've been taught to believe, right or wrong. |
|
|
|
Post by joanna on Jun 24, 2019 18:16:23 GMT -5
@wally .
Thank you for responding Wally.
The bible tells that:
God created man
Then he regretted doing so
So he murders all except one family thinking they were on the right track
He gets it wrong again as most homo sapiens still don't do as this god wants them to
So then he sires this son
Who must vicariously sacrifice himself
Which in some inexplicable and unevidenced way 'saves' the creation that his father couldn't set right
And the majority of humanity still do not follow the Christian god
When a product is damaged due to the manufacturing process, the manufacturer is held responsible, not the product.
|
|
|
|
Post by fixit on Jun 24, 2019 18:28:32 GMT -5
@wally .Thank you for responding Wally. The bible tells that: God created man Then he regretted doing so So he murders all except one family thinking they were on the right track He gets it wrong again as most homo sapiens still don't do as this god wants them to So then he sires this son Who must vicariously sacrifice himself Which is some inexplicable and unevidenced way 'saves' the creation that his father couldn't set right And the majority of humanity still do not follow the Christian god When a product is damaged, the manufacturer is held responsible, not the product.I'll try that next time I put a dent in my car. |
|
|
|
Post by joanna on Jun 24, 2019 18:31:39 GMT -5
fixit .  Good point. I will clarify.
When a product is damaged due to the manufacturing process, the manufacturer is held responsible, not the product
|
|
|
|
Post by joanna on Jun 24, 2019 18:39:40 GMT -5
snow . Christopher Hitchens really seemed to respect the potential for others to be rational and he must have been repeatedly disappointed by their failures to see reason. This presentation includes an example of a person who is willing and able to answer a question honestly and with logical content, in contrast to the dodging, weaving and avoidance commonly practiced by believers in the supernatural dimension.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2019 20:22:35 GMT -5
@wally .Thank you for responding Wally. The bible tells that: God created man Then he regretted doing so So he murders all except one family thinking they were on the right track He gets it wrong again as most homo sapiens still don't do as this god wants them to So then he sires this son Who must vicariously sacrifice himself Which is some inexplicable and unevidenced way 'saves' the creation that his father couldn't set right And the majority of humanity still do not follow the Christian god When a product is damaged due to the manufacturing process, the manufacturer is held responsible, not the product.ummm when your child whom you manufactured commits a crime after the age of 18 are you criminally responsible? |
|
|
|
Post by fixit on Jun 24, 2019 21:02:42 GMT -5
fixit . Good point. I will clarify.
When a product is damaged due to the manufacturing process, the manufacturer is held responsible, not the product It could be argued that human beings are quite well suited to take their place as creatures of this world. Yes, we get sick and old and we die - that is not a flaw, just part of nature. It's the spirit part that is flawed, the non-physical part of us that is supposed to be in fellowship with God. |
|
|
|
Post by joanna on Jun 25, 2019 1:00:52 GMT -5
@wally .
instead of punishing us as we deserve he extended mercy and sacrificed himself for our benefit....
Your answer indicates you do not believe that god is the creator of life?
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2019 1:12:09 GMT -5
@wally . instead of punishing us as we deserve he extended mercy and sacrificed himself for our benefit.... Your answer indicates you do not believe that god is the creator of life? ummm no thats not what i meant at all a man and a woman have their roles in the creation process....so answer my question.... |
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2019 1:47:36 GMT -5
@wally .Thank you for responding Wally. The bible tells that: God created man Then he regretted doing so So he murders all except one family thinking they were on the right track He gets it wrong again as most homo sapiens still don't do as this god wants them to So then he sires this son Who must vicariously sacrifice himself Which is some inexplicable and unevidenced way 'saves' the creation that his father couldn't set right And the majority of humanity still do not follow the Christian god When a product is damaged due to the manufacturing process, the manufacturer is held responsible, not the product.to that, I have no rational response absolving the almighty. Ways just got mysterious! |
|
|
|
Post by joanna on Jun 29, 2019 18:52:07 GMT -5
@wally
Your question is nonsensical as it ignores the Christian perspective that the God of Abraham created humans and then recognised they were a flawed species. But blames humans, not himself for their 'waywardness'.
From that perspective, this
"When a product is damaged, the manufacturer is held responsible, not the product:. is a reasonable critique and one you have not addressed.
Your comment that "ummm when your child whom you manufactured commits a crime after the age of 18 are you criminally responsible?" eliminates your creator god from the picture.
Either you believe your god is the creator of life, or you do not.
And either you believe that god is still present and involved or you do not.
So what is it?
If you admit your god is inert then we can start from that point.
Do you believe that the Christian god is absent and ineffective?
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2019 21:07:04 GMT -5
@wally Your question is nonsensical as it ignores the Christian perspective that the God of Abraham created humans and then recognised they were a flawed species. But blames humans, not himself for their 'waywardness'. From that perspective, this
"When a product is damaged, the manufacturer is held responsible, not the product:. is a reasonable critique and one you have not addressed. Your comment that " ummm when your child whom you manufactured commits a crime after the age of 18 are you criminally responsible?" eliminates your creator god from the picture. Either you believe your god is the creator of life, or you do not. And either you believe that god is still present and involved or you do not. So what is it? If you admit your god is inert then we can start from that point. Do you believe that the Christian god is absent and ineffective? answer the question instead of being a cop out.... |
|
