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Post by So on Nov 12, 2017 22:03:00 GMT -5
Let’s rewrite history , to accomadate the possibility That we should rightfully have “ forfeited “ the victories? There is A 27% probability that the observers of our victories Were under the influence of chicachory herbs? 😉 🤔🤔🤔 Did the chicachory herbs tell you it’s 27%? [ Sorry about that ! It was the observers that “were under the influence “ 😉 |
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Post by So on Nov 12, 2017 22:09:22 GMT -5
And. There is A 79% probability that chicachory herbs have
“Evolved “ into the herb of choice at CNBC news .
🤔😉
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Post by So on Nov 12, 2017 22:45:48 GMT -5
Let’s rewrite history , to accomadate the possibility That we should rightfully have “ forfeited “ the victories? There is A 27% probability that the observers of our victories We’re under the influence of chicachory herbs? 😉 🤔🤔🤔[/ Or maybe that was 27% of the observers were probably Under the influence of CNBC? I’ll do a double slit wave/particle experiment, if I need to. ✌️ |
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Post by dmmichgood on Nov 12, 2017 22:58:31 GMT -5
What do you mean, "that he identified himself as such?"
What did he "he identified himself as?" gave away his identity by his actions. Consistent with militants, consistent with anti-theism.
WHO is HE? WHO are you talking about? |
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Post by So on Nov 12, 2017 23:05:19 GMT -5
He gave away his identity by his actions. Consistent with militants, consistent with anti-theism.
WHO is HE? WHO are you talking about?The person identified in the referenced article |
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Post by dmmichgood on Nov 13, 2017 2:22:55 GMT -5
WHO is HE? WHO are you talking about?The person identified in the referenced article 
Why can't you ever answer without being vague or making us have to back to some previous link that you also don't name?
If you really know the truth of what you are claiming why is it so difficult for you to be specific?
My guess is that you just speak extemporaneously, just talk on the spur of the moment without any backup. |
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Post by BobWilliston on Nov 13, 2017 2:26:39 GMT -5
Is that not what all atheists do? Yes, what more do you expect from an a theist?  Certainly not what I expect. My experience with them is that they can wear a person out with their charitable works. |
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Post by BobWilliston on Nov 13, 2017 2:30:44 GMT -5
If proven to be so, it would be hypocritical of me to avoid accepting that a gunman who entered a church to kill had been motivated by an intolerance or hatred of religion; as I believe the faith factor in those incidents where a muslim who mows down pedestrians or stabs random people shouting "Allah Akbar" or the christian 'right to life at whatever the cost' who shoots the staff of a family planning clinic, should be both acknowledged and addressed. However it seems that this was not the case with Kelley and the salient cause of this murderous rampage was a mental health condition in a country where guns are handed out almost as freely as sweets even to people with a criminal past. So maybe the heading of this thread would be just as relevant if it was " Texas shooter had green eyes". He had a long history of violence and threats of violence against his family/in-laws, and expected they'd all be in the church at that time. And the family didn't report him. |
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Post by BobWilliston on Nov 13, 2017 2:57:44 GMT -5
I find it somewhat disturbing that so much is being made of this man being an atheist. If he were a Christian and had all the same red flags flapping around him, the fact that he was a Christian would never be mentioned. It's called politicizing someone else's tragedy -- using it to single out one's favorite group to hate. So, are you advocating that when someone goes off Ranting! , and mocking and berating others, (and worse), we should Comfort others by saying “ did you know mr Kelley “was” A Christian?” No, I didn't mean that, or I would have said that. You just did what I described in the post above. I meant to point out that rather than deal with the reasons why he cold so easily have done such a thing, it had nothing to do with the fact that he was an atheist. It had nothing to do with comforting anyone about anything. But since you asked the question, my answer is "No, I don't recommend lying to comfort anyone." Especially since everyone already knows what was wrong with him. But that's not how one comforts either the victims or the bereaved, and I certainly never suggested that. I'm of the same civilized opinion. However, this society obviously knows of no other way to deal with these matters, and appear uninterested in improving any of the causes. Now I wonder if you believe his punishment for his deeds are going to be any worse than his punishment for being an atheist. |
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Post by BobWilliston on Nov 13, 2017 3:05:12 GMT -5
I think it is a matter of other's wanting to identify this terrible tragedy with something, anything that can possibly give them an assurance of meaning or an excuse....sadly many died including the gunman....No one will ever know the whole story and rather than trying to analyse the incident should we not be trying to emphasise more on supporting those that are grieving the loss of loved ones. Nothing wrong with that suggestion. But as the old saying goes, "a stitch in time saves nine." Laziness, negligence, or whatever on many people' part most certainly allowed this man to do want he did. |
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Post by BobWilliston on Nov 13, 2017 3:08:02 GMT -5
How soon we forget what the religions of the "western world" really were before they were stamped out by Christianity.  And the winners write the popular history books. |
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Post by BobWilliston on Nov 13, 2017 3:11:01 GMT -5
The problem with atheists is their gulliblity... Evolution, worldview, their warped view of world politics, etc, etc But it isn’t too late to get unbrainwashed, Yet!! 🙂🙂🙂 few come back from atheism... There are a lot of popular reports to the contrary. |
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Post by BobWilliston on Nov 13, 2017 3:17:18 GMT -5
The person identified in the referenced article
Why can't you ever answer without being vague or making us have to back to some previous link that you also don't name?
If you really know the truth of what you are claiming why is it so difficult for you to be specific?
My guess is that you just speak extemporaneously, just talk on the spur of the moment without any backup.He hasn't run out of platitudes yet. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2017 4:22:14 GMT -5
I think it is a matter of other's wanting to identify this terrible tragedy with something, anything that can possibly give them an assurance of meaning or an excuse....sadly many died including the gunman....No one will ever know the whole story and rather than trying to analyse the incident should we not be trying to emphasise more on supporting those that are grieving the loss of loved ones. Nothing wrong with that suggestion. But as the old saying goes, "a stitch in time saves nine." Laziness, negligence, or whatever on many people' part most certainly allowed this man to do want he did. So other are to blame, eh? Wow!  Then that should/would include the whole system that allows any Tom, Dick and Harry, even mental folks, to own and carry fire arms/guns willy nilly and use innocent people serving their God as targets. Gees, man!  |
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Post by howitis on Nov 13, 2017 5:49:41 GMT -5
Nothing wrong with that suggestion. But as the old saying goes, "a stitch in time saves nine." Laziness, negligence, or whatever on many people' part most certainly allowed this man to do want he did. So other are to blame, eh? Wow! Then that should/would include the whole system that allows any Tom, Dick and Harry, even mental folks, to own and carry fire arms/guns willy nilly and use innocent people serving their God as targets. Gees, man! Well I think they did mention a slip up by some that then allowed him to purchase a firearm whereas ordinarily perhaps he may not have had access to one. The interesting thing is guns don't actually shoot things by themselves they usually require an operator |
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Post by rational on Nov 13, 2017 9:13:49 GMT -5
Don’t care what you believe You can’t help people by mocking, berating, and worse. 😢😢😢 I find it somewhat disturbing that so much is being made of this man being an atheist. If he were a Christian and had all the same red flags flapping around him, the fact that he was a Christian would never be mentioned. It's called politicizing someone else's tragedy -- using it to single out one's favorite group to hate. I also heard he was white. 5 digits on each hand. 5 toes on each foot too. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2017 9:19:15 GMT -5
So other are to blame, eh? Wow! Then that should/would include the whole system that allows any Tom, Dick and Harry, even mental folks, to own and carry fire arms/guns willy nilly and use innocent people serving their God as targets. Gees, man! Well I think they did mention a slip up by some that then allowed him to purchase a firearm whereas ordinarily perhaps he may not have had access to one. The interesting thing is guns don't actually shoot things by themselves they usually require an operator Precisely, so guns in the wrong hands is a dangerous hazard. every effort should therefore be made to keep them out of dangerous hands, even if those that don't have dangerous hands have to suffer some inconvenience. |
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Post by So on Nov 13, 2017 11:18:11 GMT -5
I find it somewhat disturbing that so much is being made of this man being an atheist. If he were a Christian and had all the same red flags flapping around him, the fact that he was a Christian would never be mentioned. It's called politicizing someone else's tragedy -- using it to single out one's favorite group to hate. I also heard he was white. 5 digits on each hand. 5 toes on each foot too. Ummm, do you think it might help to calm peoples fear of being connected to a terrorist group? Oh that’s right, they have just 5 toes on each foot. 🙄 |
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Post by So on Nov 13, 2017 11:21:03 GMT -5
This is the internet age, information will circulate,
People draw their own personal conclusions, obviously it doesn’t
hinder too much. 🙄
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Post by So on Nov 13, 2017 11:22:53 GMT -5
“The enemy of my enemy , might be my friend. “
Words to consider
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Post by So on Nov 13, 2017 11:24:29 GMT -5
“The enemy of my enemy , might be my friend. “ Words to consider Have atheists considered they are likely to suffer Martyrdom some day? |
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Post by So on Nov 13, 2017 11:27:37 GMT -5
I really doubt atheists would get away with the berating and mocking
Of a god that promises the things that lead to moral corruption?
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Post by So on Nov 13, 2017 11:36:21 GMT -5
It’s ludicrous to blame his neighbors for not
Reporting his mocking, as what crime is it?
It is a moral crime, but hey, many people ignore their
Moral compasses.
He could have been jailed , then it wouldn’t happen!
Let’s jail everyone that mocks and belittles others that are
Less intelligent than us...🙄
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Post by Wo on Nov 13, 2017 11:46:37 GMT -5
But thankfully God promised not to send a flood ,
Yet the world will one day be purged of all iniquity.
Some people don’t understand that concept, yet
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Post by rational on Nov 13, 2017 14:11:59 GMT -5
How soon we forget what the religions of the "western world" really were before they were stamped out by Christianity. alot of scholars come in at 50 million and a large portion of that was disease not actual murder...and still that is pure speculation we don't really know how many were here before the europeans came... Does 50 million make it better? Or 20 million? Many did die from 'new' diseases that were introduced by the europeans. And there is some evidence that this process was 'helped' by giving the native people gifts of blankets and other goods used by people who had smallpox. For example: Here in a letter there is discussion of distribution of goods known to have been used by smallpox victims to 'inoculate' the natives.   These are from www.nativeweb.org/pages/legal/amherst/lord_jeff.htmlJust how extensive this was is not totally clear but the writing does show the lack of compassion for the natives. |
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Post by So on Nov 13, 2017 14:44:52 GMT -5
If this was photoshopped, would we know ?
What exactly is your compassionate agenda?
Forfeit the Indian war victories? Go to jail
I have listened to a fair amount of propaganda ,
And it’s all to twist and distort facts
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Post by snow on Nov 13, 2017 15:02:54 GMT -5
I listened to the video by Brigitte Gabriel. I have known of this going on to both sides, Christians murdering Muslims and Muslims murdering Christians. Depend It's terrible, not because they are killing Christians. Hopefully . [ What does hope look like to the sadducces? Is peace a desired virtue in a dog eat dog /materialistic world? ?? You are doing pacifists a huge disservice It would be nice if you're going to quote someone to quote the whole thing, adding to it also is not very honest. Here is my post again for others to see I didn't say it the way you put it. 'It's terrible, not because they are killing Christians'. It makes more sense when you add the second half of the sentence. My full quote is below: It's never about the group imo, it's about them being human beings. If Christian are killing Muslims what's terrible isn't that they are Muslim, but they are human beings. I don't care what group you belong to, you don't deserve to be killed for your beliefs. I listened to the video by Brigitte Gabriel. I have known of this going on to both sides, Christians murdering Muslims and Muslims murdering Christians. Depended on the majority in the Arab world. It's terrible, not because they are killing Christians, but because they are killing human beings, all in the name of their god. Christians did it during the Crusades and the Inquisition and other holy wars. Now Muslims are doing it. It's tragic any way you look at it. I absolutely detest religious beliefs that make people think that others should be like them or they aren't worth anything and therefore can be killed with righteousness just for not worshiping the same god, which no one can even prove exists in the first place. Living as an atheist in this world means I have more than one religion that would just as soon shoot me as an ungodly infidel. We have a lot more against us and we are far fewer. Bottom line, it's tragic that we feel justified in killing others just because their beliefs are different. As much as I hate religion and what it's done to this world, I would fight to preserve the right for people to have the right to choose what they believe. The trouble with the Judeo/Christian/Muslim religions is that they are taught they need to bring others into their version of religion. If the others don't want to, then the solution is to kill them. We don't see that as much in the Christian religion anymore, but they were once just as bad as the Muslims. I congratulate the Christians for becoming less violent over the years and can only hope that Muslims learn to temper their beliefs to that degree someday. It's not going to happen soon, it carried on for quite awhile with the Christians too. The dark ages they called them. We are once again in the 'dark ages' with Islam. Hopefully this time it won't take so long to have them change to a more tolerant mindset as it did Christians during the dark ages. |
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Post by snow on Nov 13, 2017 15:06:08 GMT -5
Militant Islam agenda is to destroy “ infidels” For your information: atheism is a subset of infidelism. Infidels are the people rejected by the particular religion , that they Consider to be the nonbelievers of said religion, which includes People that have no belief. Don't worry, we are quite aware of just how many groups think we are infidels. |
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Then that should/would include the whole system that allows any Tom, Dick and Harry, even mental folks, to own and carry fire arms/guns willy nilly and use innocent people serving their God as targets. Gees, man!
