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Post by Proof on Sept 14, 2017 4:07:25 GMT -5
The compelling thing about creation, is the need to have "light" , before we go to work creating the things That need to be seen!
Let there be "Light" ....
ππβοΈπβ
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Sept 14, 2017 4:41:37 GMT -5
supposing that "eyes" evolve, Does the brain that grows the eye believe ? What does it believe? Does it believe that it exists? Does it believe that it needs a organ to see with? Why does a brain believe it needs to see? Where did the brain get the idea that seeing is believing, That we need eyes to see , and seeing to understand? These things were created for a purpose Not a hap hazard explosion! βοΈππ And gravity was created to keep us here! DNA to build additional life.. βοΈ Do bats know that they can't see?? πβοΈβοΈ?? I was asking for evidence that could be checked, not waffle.
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Post by snow on Sept 14, 2017 12:46:24 GMT -5
Ok are we done playing with the troll yet!
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Post by Proof on Sept 14, 2017 14:31:51 GMT -5
supposing that "eyes" evolve, Does the brain that grows the eye believe ? What does it believe? Does it believe that it exists? Does it believe that it needs a organ to see with? Why does a brain believe it needs to see? Where did the brain get the idea that seeing is believing, That we need eyes to see , and seeing to understand? These things were created for a purpose Not a hap hazard explosion! βοΈππ And gravity was created to keep us here! DNA to build additional life.. βοΈ Do bats know that they can't see?? πβοΈβοΈ?? I was asking for evidence that could be checked, not waffle. You mean: Don't ask questions? just accept that you would like the questions about evolving to evolve away? βοΈβοΈ I can't understand nonbelieving ... Haphazard doesn't make sense literally and rationed. π
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Post by rational on Sept 14, 2017 18:07:50 GMT -5
supposing that "eyes" evolve, Does the brain that grows the eye believe ? What does it believe? Does it believe that it exists? Does it believe that it needs a organ to see with? Why does a brain believe it needs to see? Where did the brain get the idea that seeing is believing, That we need eyes to see , and seeing to understand? These things were created for a purpose Not a hap hazard explosion! βοΈππ And gravity was created to keep us here! DNA to build additional life.. βοΈ Do bats know that they can't see?? πβοΈβοΈ?? I was asking for evidence that could be checked, not waffle. And bats can see. Your lack of knowledge/understanding of these things is you try to explain is staggering. Your arguments would carry mych more weight if they has substance behind them.
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Post by rational on Sept 14, 2017 18:10:28 GMT -5
You mean: Don't ask questions? just accept that you would like the questions about evolving to evolve away? βοΈβοΈ I can't understand nonbelieving ... Haphazard doesn't make sense literally and rationed. π No one except creationists have ever claimed that evolution was haphazard.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Sept 14, 2017 23:35:42 GMT -5
I was asking for evidence that could be checked, not waffle. And bats can see. Your lack of knowledge/understanding of these things is you try to explain is staggering. Your arguments would carry mych more weight if they has substance behind them. I have heard workers talk sh.t like this and there are gullible people who believe it simply because a worker said it. This dude Proof is either a worker or a gullible. They really hate being called out on the stupid stuff they say. It is an affront to the power they think they have.
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Post by dmmichgood on Sept 15, 2017 1:22:00 GMT -5
More blathering. So far you have mentioned possible methodology but not one bit of evidence to support your claim. I don't object to proof that supports creationism - I just have yet to see this proof you have been claiming to have. Yet you have never posted a reference showing this to be true. Many times , and the usual response is predictable.βοΈβοΈ NO, YOU HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO POST ANY REFERENCES!
NOT ONE!
Your links all eventually go to Christian apologists. I have traced everyone of them to their very roots! None of them prove anything!
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Post by Proof on Sept 18, 2017 18:21:40 GMT -5
="Proof" timestamp="1505379577" source="/post/754466/thread"] supposing that "eyes" evolve, Does the brain that grows the eye believe ?[at it needs a organ to see with? Why does a brain believe it needs to see? ]These things were created for a purpose Not a hap hazard explosion! βοΈππ And gravity was created to keep us here! DNA to build additional life.. Do Texas salamanders (any blind would suffice, even a blind bat π¦.) The point was of "self-realizations " ... π know that they can't see?? πβοΈβοΈ??[/quote]I was asking for evidence that could be checked, not waffle.[/quote]
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Post by Proof on Sept 18, 2017 18:21:59 GMT -5
="Proof" timestamp="1505379577" source="/post/754466/thread"] supposing that "eyes" evolve, Does the brain that grows the eye believe ?[at it needs a organ to see with? Why does a brain believe it needs to see? ]These things were created for a purpose Not a hap hazard explosion! βοΈππ And gravity was created to keep us here! DNA to build additional life.. Do Texas salamanders (any blind would suffice, even a blind bat π¦.) The point was of "self-realizations " ... π know that they can't see?? πβοΈβοΈ??[/quote]I was asking for evidence that could be checked, not waffle.[/quote]
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Post by Proof on Sept 18, 2017 18:26:45 GMT -5
You mean: Don't ask questions? just accept that you would like the questions about evolving to evolve away? βοΈβοΈ I can't understand nonbelieving ... Haphazard doesn't make sense literally and rationed. π No one except creationists have ever claimed that evolution was haphazard. Evolution isn't even a reliable hypothesis, creation is Caused by creating a designed DNA. βοΈβοΈπ
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Post by rational on Sept 18, 2017 20:16:25 GMT -5
No one except creationists have ever claimed that evolution was haphazard. Evolution isn't even a reliable hypothesis, creation is Caused by creating a designed DNA. βοΈβοΈπ DNA came from RNA. You really need to keep up.
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Post by Proof on Sept 19, 2017 0:46:01 GMT -5
Evolution isn't even a reliable hypothesis, creation is Caused by creating a designed DNA. βοΈβοΈπ DNA came from RNA. You really need to keep up. Excuse me, eventually "evolution" will find realize that haphazardness Is not a design at all! βοΈβοΈ
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Post by dmmichgood on Sept 19, 2017 1:25:52 GMT -5
="Proof" timestamp="1505379577" source="/post/754466/thread"] supposing that "eyes" evolve, Does the brain that grows the eye believe ?[at it needs a organ to see with? Why does a brain believe it needs to see? ]These things were created for a purpose Not a hap hazard explosion! βοΈππ And gravity was created to keep us here! DNA to build additional life.. Do Texas salamanders (any blind would suffice, even a blind bat π¦.) The point was of "self-realizations " ... π know that they can't see?? πβοΈβοΈ?? I was asking for evidence that could be checked, not waffle.[/quote] [/quote] That is rich! Asking us for evidence when you never give any evidence for your own claims.
BTW, -"eyes" did evolve.
That book I want to send you on evolution, shows just how they did so.
The dust jacket is lovely with pictures of various eyes.
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Post by dmmichgood on Sept 19, 2017 1:34:45 GMT -5
DNA came from RNA. You really need to keep up. Excuse me, eventually "evolution" will find realize that haphazardness Is not a design at all! βοΈβοΈ Where does evolution ever claim that life evolved in a "haphazard" way?
In fact way evolution works shows just the opposite, -it shows the very methodical way in which it takes place.
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Post by Proof on Sept 19, 2017 1:44:19 GMT -5
I believe haphazard , is the BEST word to describe an event that wasn't planned or designed , by a logical source!!
βοΈβοΈπ
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Post by Proof on Sept 19, 2017 1:50:06 GMT -5
Ha, and when did creationists ever say that we We're designed in an illogical (unintelligent?) manner??
βοΈβοΈπ
Never!! π
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Sept 19, 2017 1:56:18 GMT -5
Ha, and when did creationists ever say that we We're designed in an illogical (unintelligent?) manner?? βοΈβοΈπ Never!! π Any creationist that believes the Genisis story is by default saying that. After all, the story is so lacking in intelligence.
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Post by Proof on Sept 19, 2017 6:01:18 GMT -5
Ha, and when did creationists ever say that we We're designed in an illogical (unintelligent?) manner?? βοΈβοΈπ Never!! π Any creationist that believes the Genisis story is by default saying that. After all, the story is so lacking in intelligence. And are you also a believer in haphazardness??βοΈβοΈπ
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Post by Proof on Sept 19, 2017 6:03:15 GMT -5
Ha, and when did creationists ever say that we We're designed in an illogical (unintelligent?) manner?? βοΈβοΈπ Never!! π Any creationist that believes the Genisis story is by default saying that. After all, the story is so lacking in intelligence. And are you also a believer in haphazardness??βοΈβοΈπ
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Post by rational on Sept 19, 2017 10:29:12 GMT -5
DNA came from RNA. You really need to keep up. Excuse me, eventually "evolution" will find realize that haphazardness Is not a design at all! βοΈβοΈ Actually, the only people who associate haphazardness with evolution are creationists. It is thrown out as a straw man, just as you have.
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Post by proof on Sept 19, 2017 11:47:09 GMT -5
Excuse me, eventually "evolution" will find realize that haphazardness Is not a design at all! βοΈβοΈ Actually, the only people who associate haphazardness with evolution are creationists. It is thrown out as a straw man, just as you have. Ha, that's akin to saying the only people that associate God with creation, are "creationists" , well, duh?? βοΈβοΈππ
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Sept 19, 2017 13:34:44 GMT -5
Can you explain haphazardness to us mere mortals?
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Post by Proof on Sept 19, 2017 14:02:58 GMT -5
Can you explain haphazardness to us mere mortals? As long as you never ask me to explain what "nothing" is? πβοΈ
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Post by Proof on Sept 19, 2017 14:13:51 GMT -5
fwiw, ha, aren't we all mere mortals, or are some more mortal?? πβοΈ
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Post by rational on Sept 19, 2017 18:17:35 GMT -5
Actually, the only people who associate haphazardness with evolution are creationists. It is thrown out as a straw man, just as you have. Ha, that's akin to saying the only people that associate God with creation, are "creationists" , well, duh?? βοΈβοΈππ No, you are making the claim that the theory of evolution claims haphazardness. My statement is that this is not part of the theory of evolution but rather a ridiculous claim put forth by creationists as a straw man to do just as you did here, shoot it down. Sadly even you example points out your lack of understanding. There are evolutionists that are also theists. I am guessing they are the theists who actually know and understand the current theory of evolution.
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Post by Proof on Sept 19, 2017 19:16:47 GMT -5
Ha, that's akin to saying the only people that associate God with creation, are "creationists" , well, duh?? βοΈβοΈππ No, you are making the claim that the theory of evolution claims haphazardness. My statement is that this is not part of the theory of evolution but rather a ridiculous claim put forth by creationists as a straw man to do just as you did here, shoot it down. Sadly even you example points out your lack of understanding. There are evolutionists that are also theists. I am guessing they are the theists who actually know and understand the current theory of evolution. Hmmm, so does the evolutionist's God, accept the Jews? When I hear this, I cringe, how convoluted is that paradigm?? I have to ask was there a purpose to "evolution" , if they would only understand that evolution is based on haphazardry! πβοΈβοΈπ€π
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Post by rational on Sept 19, 2017 21:24:20 GMT -5
Hmmm, so does the evolutionist's God, accept the Jews? I said they were theists. Very well could involve multiple gods. After the BS you have claimed you can ask this? There is no purpose to evolution any more than there is a purpose to a glacier moving rocks. Only in the minds of creationists. Can you find a single not-creationist site that makes that claim?
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