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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Feb 9, 2019 22:40:14 GMT -5
Well said DM. There is umpteen pages from this fella and not one of them showing any science that can be cross referenced or stand up to some decent peer review by a reputable scientist. It is the usual dishonest behaviour from believers who are seeing more and more of their cherished beliefs made irrelevant as honest science exposes them.
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Post by dmmichgood on Feb 9, 2019 23:00:48 GMT -5
Well said DM. There is umpteen pages from this fella and not one of them showing any science that can be cross referenced or stand up to some decent peer review by a reputable scientist. It is the usual dishonest behaviour from believers who are seeing more and more of their cherished beliefs made irrelevant as honest science exposes them. Thanks, -I wasn't very nice but I get so sick of people wanting US to have "faith" in THEIR non-verifiable religious ideas -yet they are always trying to use "science" to verify their own "faith!"
They should just let go of one or the other.
We live in a world and time where we obtain our knowledge by the use of science but their problem is they can't give up the idea of having an after life!
It all comes down to that "fear of death" -which is probably the ultimate fear of mankind.
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Post by quest on Feb 10, 2019 2:12:12 GMT -5
77"]More good science ! Dr Tour youtu.be/B1E4QMn2mxkbr]Origin of Life /answers Good research!! Thank you , all
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Post by quest on Feb 10, 2019 2:20:30 GMT -5
77"]More good science ! Dr Tour youtu.be/B1E4QMn2mxkbr]Origin of Life /answers Good research!! Thank you , all And as another scientist said, Science helps us to understand how we were created. Thank you, all
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Feb 10, 2019 2:33:36 GMT -5
More garbage science from quest.
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Post by quest on Feb 10, 2019 2:35:29 GMT -5
As we come to understand the fullness of the human genome, we will understand that we certainly are Not “evolving” .
We are a being that is assigned to have a deteriorating human Body that will die. Yet Eternal Logic does not die, and so it will Endure thanks to our Logical (Logos) Creator, IMO
IMO
Thank you.
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Post by dmmichgood on Feb 10, 2019 2:42:45 GMT -5
More garbage science from quest. I usually don't bother to check him out. He has nothing new to say.
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Post by quest on Feb 10, 2019 2:46:14 GMT -5
More garbage science from quest. Hmmmm, of course as our genome deteriorates, we are fortunate enough to resource other aspects of our genome to compensate for this lack. I knew of people that couldn’t “see”, but their other senses increased in functionality. IMO Thanks!
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Post by quest on Feb 10, 2019 2:53:18 GMT -5
More garbage science from quest. Hmmmm, of course as our genome deteriorates, we are fortunate enough to resource other aspects of our genome to compensate for this lack. I knew of people that couldn’t “see”, but their other senses increased in functionality. IMO Thanks! As for me, this is a wonderful compensatory feature of how we were created, to have that “overdrive “ Kick in when other “systems” have issues. Truly amazing, truly a gift from Our Creator! IMO. ( and one we can be Thankful for ) Thanks
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Post by quest on Feb 10, 2019 3:00:51 GMT -5
One amazing thing about Dr James Tour, is that ever since he was “prejudiced “ for his doubting ( the Darwinianism religion) he has been gifted with more understanding of the real Evidence that exposes the religion of the non theistics , IMO
IMO
Thankfully
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Post by quest on Feb 11, 2019 17:07:52 GMT -5
Logic demands correct reason/reasonings.
When there is no “reason” , there can be no Logic.
It’s quite simple, as every non-theistic theory demands No reason , (and no purpose!)
There is NoWhere in the earth does that make any Logical sense.
You cannot have Logic, if there is no foundational Evidence for it. Hmmmm
Thank you for the Logic! (We need it)
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Post by quest on Feb 11, 2019 18:03:06 GMT -5
Logic demands correct reason/reasonings. When there is no “reason” , there can be no Logic. It’s quite simple, as every non-theistic theory demands No reason , (and no purpose!) There is NoWhere in the earth does that make any Logical sense. You cannot have Logic, if there is no foundational Evidence for it. Hmmmm Thank you for the Logic! (We need it) Of course , we also have the issue with chemistry! (If chemistry is reactionary (and it is) , how did the semi-reactive DNA arise with the conundrum of demanding a mutated chemical Reaction? ? ? ?? Isn’t that proof that either there Is more to DNA than a series of chemical productions, but a mechanism that somehow allows for “chemical mutations “?? It can’t be straight logical chemistry , unless the DNA Is programmed to die, and this certainly supports the fallen state of sin, IMO Hmmmm, IMO Thank you,
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Post by By the bye on Sept 23, 2019 23:03:25 GMT -5
Could we find evidence that the original New Testament was really written in Koine Greek and was comprised of 27 books?
i seem to get some illogical opinions that
the Greek bible didn’t exist until after the Latin bible decided that there should be 27 also?
hmmm, I will go with the evidence of the original koine Greek New Testament!
thank you!
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Post by By the bye on Sept 24, 2019 17:48:06 GMT -5
Ok a brontosaurus is a mythological dinosaur?
Hmmm, learn something new today!
Even though it persists to be in museums? Ha
Oh the webs we weave....in the museums even?
Hmmmm
No thank you 😌
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Post by By the bye on Sept 25, 2019 1:23:42 GMT -5
Essentially, we have at task the observation of what Comes first, our DNA, or the product that our DNA Conceived?
Is , there is really a very real and valid reason to doubt evolution On this point alone!
Without the correct code, nothing would be given A chance to live, to experience life as we know it.
And , To be conscious
Thank you very much,
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Post by By the bye on Sept 25, 2019 2:41:18 GMT -5
The Bible says that creation and science can be mutually beneficial in our belief.
nice to be reminded of that
thank you
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Post by By the bye on Sept 27, 2019 3:33:31 GMT -5
So, in researching, can we believe that DNA is just a haphazard instructional code that has no purpose?
That sounds quite absurd , imo.
Yet , to evolutionary” science”, it has seemingly taken On the role of King of the science of reason, logic, and purpose!
It truly is a phenomenal apparatus that has so many Applications.
Can we envision a DNA that would buildyou a “living comforter “ , a “living councilor “?
Each having and serving a purpose for existing.
Ecclesiastes: To everything there is a (conscious) purpose
(Yeah, for what value is a purpose if our consciousness Cannot perceive it?)
So much purpose, and so little interest in discovering the ultimate purpose for man/woman to be able to reason this wisely to it’s surety and enlightenment
Hmmm.
Thank you
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Post by By the bye on Sept 27, 2019 3:48:56 GMT -5
So for the first cause, do we also need a Purpose for this cause?
If you consciously reason this , can we all arrive at the Same answer?
Ok, then let’s consider the answer to that question to Be “yes”. (Then we need to put priorities of what Needs to exist, in order for anything to exist)
And we can examine this postulation! ? And discover
Whether things can really exist, if there is absolutely No consciousness of its existence. Maybe , but then that cannot be observed , therefore , maybe not?
And so
Hmmmm
Thank you
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Post by By the bye on Sept 27, 2019 4:01:23 GMT -5
Certainly that is the main point of Genesis, consciousness of what creation is, it’s the start of a conscious relationship Of our Creator, of man, and the universe that Was so created consciously to provide a place for man to reason and contemplate his existence and purpose And to look to the “unknown” and know that all of this
is only knowable if we can become conscious of it?
I think?
Hmmmm
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Post by By the bye on Sept 27, 2019 5:51:35 GMT -5
Now then, to put forth that existence came into existence, without the assistance of a consciousness, would recuse consciousness of its ability to conceive itself?
The sad inference of the Big Bang is it’s glaring lack Of an observation, which is essential to science, knowledge, and consciousness?
Wherefore springeth forth the seed of consciousness if not from the Creator of said concept? DNA takes the back seat when the First Cause began to use conscious purpose to Dictate the language of the elements that Are purposefully Arranged to produce the consciousness of the intention(s)
IMO
Thank you
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Post by By the bye on Sept 28, 2019 4:27:29 GMT -5
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Post by By the bye on Sept 28, 2019 20:04:47 GMT -5
hmmm, ya it’s hard to understand some doctrines of man??
please tell me : 1. does God have human blood?
2. If He does , can He die as humans die?
if there is a special provision that sometimes Jesus is not fully (God) ./(of the tri-God variety??)
thank you, thank you very much. ()()()?? ??
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Post by By the bye? on Sept 28, 2019 20:12:39 GMT -5
??
if Jesus actually died, he couldn’t have been God, because God cannot be murdered , imo.
hmmm
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Post by By the bye on Sept 29, 2019 1:43:13 GMT -5
A knowledgeable Catholic friend said that “Catholic churches are required to demonstrate/full view “ a statues of Mary and Joseph , (they believe the trinity makes Mary the (mother of God/et al)
Military “church buildings” provide “blankets” to cover these statues? , since the Protestants don’t accept this motherhood doctrine
Hmmm. ? Are both understandings acceptable to the diehard indoctrination believers ?
I don’t understand? ? ?
And no one can tell me there isn’t an issue that goes beyond common sense!
Thanks
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Post by By the bye on Sept 29, 2019 3:12:29 GMT -5
Hmmm
Michael Engor : the evidence against materialism
Brilliant, captivating, awesome!
Thank you,
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Post by By the bye on Sept 29, 2019 9:05:01 GMT -5
Truth is eternal, as they say about enlightenment,
truth can be true on infinite levels of comprehension.
So true, so true
Thank you
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2019 13:53:52 GMT -5
?? if Jesus actually died, he couldn’t have been God, because God cannot be murdered , imo. hmmm Jesus the spirit wasn't killed Jesus the human was....
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Post by By the bye on Sept 29, 2019 17:15:30 GMT -5
?? if Jesus actually died, he couldn’t have been God, because God cannot be murdered , imo. hmmm Jesus the spirit wasn't killed Jesus the human was.... Not sure how that is different than Lazarus dying , yet his spirit lives Unless you don’t believe in the resurrection?
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