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Post by rational on Feb 8, 2019 17:52:11 GMT -5
More myth. Try researching fact and back it up with verifiable evidence instead of endlessly repeating mythology in a vain hope that by repeating it often enough it will become true. For instance you reference the flood. There is not one shred of evidence of a world wide flood but you still believe the biblical story. Show me the fossil record of penguins, kangaroos, kiwis, kakapo that are found on the way to and from the ark. Let’s begin with the “fossil record” being a notorious Exercise in circular reasoning? Great. With what data can you support your claim? |
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Post by quest on Feb 8, 2019 21:24:47 GMT -5
Ha, here we go round the datea tree, round and round we go!
Isn’t this Fun!! (please, be warned it maketh me dizzy ...)
—No thank you
Nevertheless
Thank you.
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Post by quest on Feb 8, 2019 21:35:38 GMT -5
Let’s begin with the “fossil record” being a notorious Exercise in circular reasoning? Great. With what data can you support your claim? if you are satisfied that the research you compiled is research , that confirms (as true,) , the hypothesis you are endorsing, then by all means , don’t let me “rain on Your parade!” (any of the many scientists (notably AE Wilde-Smith, etc.. have given talks about the evidences of the ‘deluge’ ) (I’m sure you would be bored to listen to ? Other wise I would post them again, and again .) hmmmm Thank you. |
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Post by intelchips on Feb 8, 2019 21:44:32 GMT -5
Here, I have to depart from many who agree with me on what is myth and what is fact. I find there is evidence for several great floods stretched over many periods. I'm satisfied to accept that the author of Geneses had heard some rumor of a great flood in the long past and included it into their story.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Feb 8, 2019 22:00:04 GMT -5
Here, I have to depart from many who agree with me on what is myth and what is fact. I find there is evidence for several great floods stretched over many periods. I'm satisfied to accept that the author of Geneses had heard some rumor of a great flood in the long past and included it into their story. That sounds about the same as what I have read. To a cave dweller an entire valley flooded which was the total of his world would be catastrophic. The rest of the biblical flood story is simply that. A story. |
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Post by rational on Feb 9, 2019 0:51:37 GMT -5
Great. With what data can you support your claim? if you are satisfied that the research you compiled is research , that confirms (as true,) , the hypothesis you are endorsing, then by all means , don’t let me “rain on Your parade!” (any of the many scientists (notably AE Wilde-Smith, etc.. have given talks about the evidences of the ‘deluge’ ) (I’m sure you would be bored to listen to ? Other wise I would post them again, and again .) hmmmm Thank you. I thought for one brief shining moment you might have grown up and were able to enter into a discussion but sadly I was mistaken. |
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Feb 9, 2019 0:55:25 GMT -5
if you are satisfied that the research you compiled is research , that confirms (as true,) , the hypothesis you are endorsing, then by all means , don’t let me “rain on Your parade!” (any of the many scientists (notably AE Wilde-Smith, etc.. have given talks about the evidences of the ‘deluge’ ) (I’m sure you would be bored to listen to ? Other wise I would post them again, and again .) hmmmm Thank you. I thought for one brief shining moment you might have grown up and were able to enter into a discussion but sadly I was mistaken. well said Rat, all you will get with this pseudo intellectual is the same diatribe day after day. It's all gleaned from some rubbish churchy science site. Now there's an oxymoron. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2019 0:59:52 GMT -5
I thought for one brief shining moment you might have grown up and were able to enter into a discussion but sadly I was mistaken. well said Rat, all you will get with this pseudo intellectual is the same diatribe day after day. It's all gleaned from some rubbish churchy science site. Now there's an oxymoron. i'd say from all that he posts that hes light years ahead of any of you in the intellectual realm same for ynot and lee.... |
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Post by rational on Feb 9, 2019 1:13:10 GMT -5
well said Rat, all you will get with this pseudo intellectual is the same diatribe day after day. It's all gleaned from some rubbish churchy science site. Now there's an oxymoron. i'd say from all that he posts that hes light years ahead of any of you in the intellectual realm same for ynot and lee.... Cutting and pasting does take time. |
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Post by quest on Feb 9, 2019 4:56:23 GMT -5
if you are satisfied that the research you compiled is research , that confirms (as true,) , the hypothesis you are endorsing, then by all means , don’t let me “rain on Your parade!” (any of the many scientists (notably AE Wilde-Smith, etc.. have given talks about the evidences of the ‘deluge’ ) (I’m sure you would be bored to listen to ? Other wise I would post them again, and again .) hmmmm Thank you. I thought for one brief shining moment you might have grown up and were able to enter into a discussion but sadly I was mistaken. Yes. you are mistaken there has been a very consistent dialog that has “survived” (even on other threads) the scrutiny of countless discussions i offered a scientists take on the issue, and you declined by suggesting I have suddenly stopped the discussion from advancing?? Am sorry, there is plenty of evidence, and as i suggested i will refer to the dozens of talks and lectures (by quality scientists) Thank you |
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Post by quest on Feb 9, 2019 5:00:32 GMT -5
weather or not there is a responce to this post or not
is not the reason for this post..
it is for the “purpose” of feeding inquiring thoughts/reasonings
if it accomplishes that, Good, if not, then i humbly apologize ‘.
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Post by quest on Feb 9, 2019 5:20:52 GMT -5
then (for those that believe there is no universal purpose for
creation). ??
do you believe all the universal “elements” were created?
(Or do you have an aversion to such concepts as “creation” ( ?). )
nevertheless, we do have these “components” of mass
elements were created to have a chemical reaction
with other elements , and “compounds” were created
to have reactions with other “compounds” (or an element)
For this reason we can study the created chemical world and
Either “believe” these chemicals were created for a purpose?
Or you can believe they were created for NO purpose! !
Does it make logical since to anyone (logically) that there
Is no purpose for chemical reactions?
(Ha, this is a psuedo-rhetorical question!
So, the question remains for the “doubters “
(Do you see a purpose in this creation of our wonderfully created “chemistry universe” ??
Hmmm
Thank you
(and especially Wally!)
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Post by quest on Feb 9, 2019 5:33:03 GMT -5
[]Cutting and pasting does take time. “cutting and paste “. please point out where you believe i used “cut and paste”. (sounds like another of your “ cut and run” commentary?? hmmmm Thank you |
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Post by quest on Feb 9, 2019 5:53:50 GMT -5
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Post by quest on Feb 9, 2019 6:19:35 GMT -5
then (for those that believe there is no universal purpose for creation). ?.........................} Or you can believe they were created for NO purpose! ! Does it make logical since to anyone (logically) that there Is no purpose for chemical reactions? (Ha, this is a psuedo-rhetorical question! So, the question remains for the “doubters “ (Do you see a purpose in this creation of our wonderfully created “chemistry universe” ?? Hmmm Thank you[ Hmmm, (without having communication between other “socially inclined “ humans) we see that there IS a Purpose for things to have a purpose, that is why Logic and truth will prevail over myths and “theories”. Always a reason to search for Truth, because ultimately it demonstrates the purpose for everything, as Solomon wisely espoused in the book of the Ecclesiasties. And yes, even our Creator created the elements , for the Purpose of inquiring minds to discover the Logic of what we are made from and what provides our sustainability? And we learn more about the spiritual purpose of our meditations, right? Thanks Thank you |
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Post by quest on Feb 9, 2019 6:36:21 GMT -5
to summarize:
not only do we know that there is a purpose for the
Purpose of Life, we know there actually is
A purpose for Life!
(And we can find it out ). (, as Solomon also
finds out ! )
Hmmmm
Thank you
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Post by dmmichgood on Feb 9, 2019 16:23:00 GMT -5
Ha, here we go round the datea tree, round and round we go! Isn’t this Fun!! (please, be warned it maketh me dizzy ...) —No thank you Nevertheless Thank you.
When you can't quote any facts, -just resort to being silly!  |
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Post by quest on Feb 9, 2019 18:50:47 GMT -5
Ha, here we go round the datea tree, round and round we go! Isn’t this Fun!! (please, be warned it maketh me dizzy ...) —No thank you Nevertheless Thank you.
When you can't quote any facts, -just resort to being silly! ha, i still see it as flawed logic ( circular reasoning) , they are (to be credited for) trying to correct this problem. ! Thanks |
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Feb 9, 2019 19:34:07 GMT -5
The only circular reasoning I have seen in this thread is that posted by quest. Endlessly repeating bible based science which no reputable scientist would put his name too will not further his cause.
Take off your blinkers quest and start reading real science. Scary stuff I know and all of us who were once 2x2s and are now atheists have had the balls to do that and come up with the answers. Be honest for once in your life and stop perpetrating the religion lie.
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Post by quest on Feb 9, 2019 20:02:24 GMT -5
The only circular reasoning I have seen in this thread is that posted by quest. Endlessly repeating bible based science which no reputable scientist would put his name too will not further his cause. Take off your blinkers quest and start reading real science. Scary stuff I know and all of us who were once 2x2s and are now atheists have had the balls to do that and come up with the answers. Be honest for once in your life and stop perpetrating the religion lie. aw, can’t say that illogical hypothesis’ demonstrate “honesty”? That’s a good one , curly! when you perpetuate a haphazard event, how can You expect to be taken seriously? hmmm? Thank you |
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Post by quest on Feb 9, 2019 20:16:42 GMT -5
Endlessly repeating bible based science which no reputable scientist would put his name too will not further his cause. There are dozens and dozens that “put their name” on their research: dr Dean Kenyon, dr AE Wilder-Smith. dr James Tour, Dr Jonathan Sarfati, etc.... just to get you started. great researchers! Thank you |
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Post by quest on Feb 9, 2019 20:21:42 GMT -5
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Post by dmmichgood on Feb 9, 2019 20:28:47 GMT -5
I thought for one brief shining moment you might have grown up and were able to enter into a discussion but sadly I was mistaken. Yes. you are mistaken there has been a very consistent dialog that has “survived” (even on other threads) the scrutiny of countless discussions i offered a scientists take on the issue, and you declined by suggesting I have suddenly stopped the discussion from advancing?? Am sorry, there is plenty of evidence, and as i suggested i will refer to the dozens of talks and lectures (by quality scientists) Thank you
Look! We have been through all of this before, -where you said, "i offered a scientist's take on the issue" plus your "quality scientists!"
This one for instance, -Arthur Ernest Wilder-Smith, FRSC , -more commonly known as A. E. Wilder-Smith, -was a British organic chemist and young Earth creationist.
Now, you got that?
Your quality scientist "Arthur Ernest Wilder-Smith is young Earth creationist.
Now, listen carefully because I don't want to have to repeat myself yet one more time!
this is the definition of a Young Earth creationism
Young Earth creationism (YEC) is a form of creationism, a religious belief, which holds that the universe, Earth, and all life on Earth were created by direct acts of God less than 10,000 years ago.
Got that? -Young Earth creationism claims the whole universe is less than 10,000 years old.
NOW this:
Homo Sapiens (Modern mankind) has been here 350,000 years
The first Homo Sapiens had a heavier build and were stronger than modern humans.
Homo Sapiens were the first prehistoric people to inhabit large areas of Europe, Asia and Australia.
But you! You, quest! -YOU have had the audacity to keep on & on trying to tell us that YOU have "offered a scientist's take" on the issue?
Do you really believe that we that stupid ?
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Post by quest on Feb 9, 2019 20:49:04 GMT -5
Yes. you are mistaken there has been a very consistent dialog that has “survived” (even on other threads) the scrutiny of countless discussions i offered a scientists take on the issue, and you declined by suggesting I have suddenly stopped the discussion from advancing?? Am sorry, there is plenty of evidence, and as i suggested i will refer to the dozens of talks and lectures (by quality scientists) Thank you
Look! We have been through all of this before, -where you said, "i offered a scientist's take on the issue" plus your "quality scientists!"
This one for instance, -Arthur Ernest Wilder-Smith, FRSC , -more commonly known as A. E. Wilder-Smith, -was a British organic chemist and young Earth creationist.
Now, you got that?
Your quality scientist "Arthur Ernest Wilder-Smith is young Earth creationist.
Now, listen carefully because I don't want to have to repeat myself yet one more time!
this is the definition of a Young Earth creationism
Young Earth creationism (YEC) is a form of creationism, a religious belief, which holds that the universe, Earth, and all life on Earth were created by direct acts of God less than 10,000 years ago.
Got that? -Young Earth creationism claims the whole universe is less than 10,000 years old.
NOW this:
Homo Sapiens (Modern mankind) has been here 350,000 years
The first Homo Sapiens had a heavier build and were stronger than modern humans.
Homo Sapiens were the first prehistoric people to inhabit large areas of Europe, Asia and Australia.
But you! You, quest! -YOU have had the audacity to keep on & on trying to tell us that YOU have "offered a scientist's take" on the issue?
Do you really believe that we that stupid ?
I am thinking of “what does your Creator “ think of your theories? ?? hope you can explain your ideas when He asks you to? just try to become more logical in your thoughts? Thank you, |
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Post by quest on Feb 9, 2019 21:04:05 GMT -5
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Post by quest on Feb 9, 2019 21:32:12 GMT -5
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Feb 9, 2019 21:51:39 GMT -5
Look! We have been through all of this before, -where you said, "i offered a scientist's take on the issue" plus your "quality scientists!"
This one for instance, -Arthur Ernest Wilder-Smith, FRSC , -more commonly known as A. E. Wilder-Smith, -was a British organic chemist and young Earth creationist.
Now, you got that?
Your quality scientist "Arthur Ernest Wilder-Smith is young Earth creationist.
Now, listen carefully because I don't want to have to repeat myself yet one more time!
this is the definition of a Young Earth creationism
Young Earth creationism (YEC) is a form of creationism, a religious belief, which holds that the universe, Earth, and all life on Earth were created by direct acts of God less than 10,000 years ago.
Got that? -Young Earth creationism claims the whole universe is less than 10,000 years old.
NOW this:
Homo Sapiens (Modern mankind) has been here 350,000 years
The first Homo Sapiens had a heavier build and were stronger than modern humans.
Homo Sapiens were the first prehistoric people to inhabit large areas of Europe, Asia and Australia.
But you! You, quest! -YOU have had the audacity to keep on & on trying to tell us that YOU have "offered a scientist's take" on the issue?
Do you really believe that we that stupid ?
I am thinking of “what does your Creator “ think of your theories? ?? hope you can explain your ideas when He asks you to? just try to become more logical in your thoughts? Thank you, Your creator does not exist except in your mind. Your god was invented by man, not the other way round. Get used to the fact that when you die that you are going to rot away in the ground or be burnt in the big bbq. |
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Post by dmmichgood on Feb 9, 2019 22:19:14 GMT -5
Look! We have been through all of this before, -where you said, "i offered a scientist's take on the issue" plus your "quality scientists!"
This one for instance, -Arthur Ernest Wilder-Smith, FRSC , -more commonly known as A. E. Wilder-Smith, -was a British organic chemist and young Earth creationist.
Now, you got that?
Your quality scientist "Arthur Ernest Wilder-Smith is young Earth creationist.
Now, listen carefully because I don't want to have to repeat myself yet one more time!
this is the definition of a Young Earth creationism
Young Earth creationism (YEC) is a form of creationism, a religious belief, which holds that the universe, Earth, and all life on Earth were created by direct acts of God less than 10,000 years ago.
Got that? -Young Earth creationism claims the whole universe is less than 10,000 years old.
NOW this:
Homo Sapiens (Modern mankind) has been here 350,000 years
The first Homo Sapiens had a heavier build and were stronger than modern humans.
Homo Sapiens were the first prehistoric people to inhabit large areas of Europe, Asia and Australia.
But you! You, quest! -YOU have had the audacity to keep on & on trying to tell us that YOU have "offered a scientist's take" on the issue?
Do you really believe that we that stupid ?
I am thinking of “what does your Creator “ think of your theories? ?? hope you can explain your ideas when He asks you to? just try to become more logical in your thoughts? Thank you,
Claiming to believe in "science," -how quickly you rush to your default position of siccing your "Creator “ god on me.
That is because it is all that you have -after trying to sound like you are coming from an intellectual scientific based position.
But if I were the Christian Creator god you claim as yours, -I would "spue thee out of my mouth," for not having enough faith to believe in me without trying to prove it by some kind of "scientific" mishmash .
PS:
I don't need anyone's condescending "thank you" nor anyone's advice about being "logical" coming from someone who has no idea of the meaning of the word.
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