Has Science Discovered God?

[By the bye]

Either way, it was the separation from God that Jesus

Was extremely concerned about as He faced the certainty of death

On the cross for our sins .

If the three were one, wouldn’t killing one third be a serious

Wound to the other half? It said God turned His head

When the sins of the world were placed on Christ, as

God cannot condone our sin, (sin by definition , is the

Absence of God in us , thus forgiveness negates these sins)


IMO

Thanks

[By the bye]

the fatal flaw in the trunity

is to believe that God was on the cross burdened by the “absence of God (ie: sin)”

that is an absurd assessment of the plan of God, imo


thanks

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Sept 30, 2019 8:37:15 GMT -5 By the bye said:

the fatal flaw in the trunity

is to believe that God was on the cross burdened by the “absence of God (ie: sin)”

that is an absurd assessment of the plan of God, imo


thanks

Ok, the fatality of this position, is that
God, and the absence of God , cannot 
be synchronized !

is that a wee bit more comprehend-able?



i can type this slower and s l o w e r ,...



then the Aha eureka will enlighten your mind!
(i wish )🤞


thank you..

 

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Jesus recognizes what it is like to be “tempted in all points like we are”. 

He overcame sin, was perfect in every way, and 
sinned not. Yet God bruised (Jesus) as it says in Isaiah, God allowed Jesus to suffer for the sake of those that were overcome by sin, so they
would be set free from the guilt that separates 
a sinner from God, by recognizing that our Saviour Jesus suffered for those that are all guilty of that

”separation from God” that sin causes.


forgiveness is the reuniting of sinner to God, through our chief Advocate - Jesus the Christ 


imo


thank you, thank you

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so, I hope we can all understand that Jesus 

did become separated from God   the moment

He accepted the guilt for our sin, 

As we know, and yet there are still those
 
that believe Jesus is God , and God was seperated
from God??

how is that even comprehend able? 


It isn't , imo

hmmm



 

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well, if you keep changing the offices of the 
trinity ?

what are the real offices?  Is Jesus God     , or just
God the son?

is God really God, or is He the Holy Ghost ?

cant people understand the confusion this
 Nonsense creates ?

please, enough already, imo

🤞🤞🤞🤞😌

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that’s it!  God transcends “our” humanist 
“material” (world).  —in my humble opinion 

its  very inspiring/comforting to know that “materialism”
Isn’t all that people crack it up to be.
 
Materialism is our human mind meeting 
with carnality, where does humanity
suffer what is only materialistic?

our minds need “virtues” to overcome 
the lusting of materialism in society, imo 


hmmm

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To be consciously aware of nothing is to be unaware
of everything.

Since materialism is limited to material , it is impossible

to be aware of nothing, as nothing cannot exist (in and by
itself). IMO


Hmmmm

Thank you

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To be consciously aware of nothing is to be unaware
of everything.

Since materialism is limited to material , it is impossible

to be aware of nothing, as nothing cannot exist (in and by
itself). IMO


Hmmmm

Thank you [/qu



So let us consider that consciousness is of both material and spiritual
Interpretation, as is : rational and logic.

It stands to reason that humans are the beneficiaries
Of this duality, and is by this differentiality, an enormous
advantage to be stewards of these matters of matter?


Hmm

Thank you

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so then , for the sake of comparison,

is abiogenesis an accident or an intentionality?

Obviously to the unbiased observer, an accident 

cannot be scientifically determined!  

(As accidents are caused by an unforeseen error  )

{oh I didn’t see him :/ even though there is

no rational reason why I didn’t see him? }

hmmm

that leaves logic to favor intentionality, as 

we cannot sympathize with unforced errors/ 

( yet as spiritual, we can forgive .)

h
just some thoughts on abiogenesis!!



hmmmm. 

Thank you

[By the bye]

and to analyze DNA instructional code,

we can observe what “may be considered mutations/ errors”  , yet, these can also

be assigned as intentionally determined ,

we we have no insight into the DNA interpretation 

Of or if it was an undersight or oversight error?

for all we know the mutation was intentional,

and the instructional was followed as per coding


Can we read the intentions of the intentions given by the instructional?    

Hmmmm.  


Maybe?

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Oct 23, 2019 2:00:31 GMT -5 Editted by said:

To be consciously aware of nothing is to be unaware
of everything.

Since materialism is limited to material , it is impossible

to be aware of nothing, as nothing cannot exist (in and by
itself). IMO


Hmmmm

Thank you [/qu



So let us consider that consciousness is of both material and spiritual
Interpretation, as is : rational and logic.

It stands to reason that humans are the beneficiaries
Of this duality, and is by this differentiality, an enormous
advantage to be stewards of these matters of matter?


Hmm




Thank you

And it is no surprise that humans have by “default” assumed the stewardship of the 
planet, yes, and it isn’t an “accident”, like pseudo scientists imagine !


🤫🙂


thank you,

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as pertaining to the fore posted post, I 

would like to submit a proposal?


fwiw , intentionality has a broader scope

than “intelligently designed” ,,   We might

consider a postulation that we (everything and every living being) are  intentionally constructed 

awe, I like the sound of that..  as for the 
added quality of being “intelligently constructed” —

this also has has great merit, and yet as

the potter sees the flaw in His work, so 

we need to be refined to the point of being

of the appearance and utility of knowing

that we have the opportunity to be redeemed 

and reconstructed into  “perfecto design”. !!


Hmmm,
That is my opinion, thank you!

[THE postulate]

Hmmm, aha , so then, fwiw, in my opinion~~

quote “if you can’t prove intentionality, then

the antecedent for that is hardly provable,?!

for if there is no intention? , what pray tell

could compose an erroneous interpretation 

of such an event?   Huh?

If there is an intentional event , then there

is the possibility that the event Accidentally

occurred in err of the intention of the planned

event,

in other words, ::  no intention, there can be 

no event accident happening, as accidents assume 
 
there is/was another outcome that would be the

preferred “event” (intent!)


ya, it is just simple Logic, as far as i can “see”

eh. 

thank you  ,  🙂

[Postulate , amended]

hmmm,

does not intention assume a “planned event”

” and failure to plan, is planning to fail” (but if there is no planned event, then whatever happens
does so because that becomes the occurred event (planning not to plan) as in contrast to an “accident” (is: plans are plans / not “accidents” )


hmmmm

thanks

[by the bye]

and as we consider the validity of our First cause 

necessarily being an Intentionality, as to

dismiss intentionality is to dismiss everything 

that is is dependent on rational logic, or the

existence of an un-intentioned event preceding 

the rationally intentional event?

hmmm, kind of like saying an event mistake can occur

before we are informed of the event?  

If if we don’t know what event we are on, 

then in the event mistake, the “event” needs

to already be on .


hmmmm


thanks

(something like the postulate of every negative number is the result of a positive number being 

subtracted from the source(. Or zero)


hmmmm

[By the bye]

Thank you and thank you

(For humouring these posts!)


I admit they do have a bias!

Some day it would be considered for an accumulation

Of musings for an essay of “why do humans tend to favor

Logic”.

And the short answer may as be that we are made
In such a manner , in that particular mold/ image

Whereas logic instructs in truth, in right, and gives answers to
Important searching of “life”. It’s a good image to be of



Hmmm

[Re Pete , Hmmm repeating]

So , it bares repeating :

Even if somehow a clone of a living cell was reconstructed,

The problem then becomes initiating a “breath of life” ,

Is there a theory that purports to establish how long an

Organism can be living ? (It’s breath of life)

All I can “imagine” is that ~ absent any mutations, and

existing in a ecosystem that meets all the required staples

to support its DNA sufficiently , death would and could be

Suspended? , of course this rings like the truth we know

about how Adam and Eve were intended to habit this earth

before the DNA was “mutated “ because of sin?



Hmmm

Thanks

[By the bye]

I believe that the Genesis account is the best 

explanation for DNA mutations?

(shortened life , our human bodies will die)

imo

thanks
 

[By the bye]

Hmmm, so the “evolutionists “ tend to believe 

that we were created with “mutations “ (and “mutations “ caused humans to “evolve”)


isn't it pure irony that’s the intention of “mutations”. Were a “punishment”
for sinning , and the main cause of death  ?


we can’t escape those harmful influences?!


hmmm

[xna]

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“Mutations “ ?

Evolutions destiny?

We choose what we want to believe, imo


Is there free will involved?


Hmmmm.

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“there is nothing new under the sun ”

(Ecclesiastes )

hmmm, if this adage is indeed true! (And I believe it is, of course 😉 )

would that prove creation is also valid , using 

the reliability of a postulation as unique as such


as Solomon does here , shows that we are living

in  a carefully created universe! Thankfully thrre
is nothing new   , we can only discover what 
already is and has been.


hmmmmm 

thank you

[By the bye]

Re Pete , Hmmm repeating" source="/post/861102/thread" timestamp="1572844785"]
So , it bares repeating :

Even if somehow a clone of a living cell was reconstructed,

The problem then becomes initiating a “breath of life” ,

Is there a theory that purports to establish how long an

Organism can be living ? (It’s breath of life)

All I can “imagine” is that ~ absent any mutations, and

existing in a ecosystem that meets all the required staples

to support its DNA sufficiently , death would and could be

Suspended? , of course this rings like the truth we know

about how Adam and Eve were intended to habit this earth

before the DNA was “mutated “ because of sin?



Hmmm

Thanks




So then cells have a very short life!

Too short to make a substantial product.

And yet , because a a “synergized”. ( dare say irreducible? 😉)

These cells are ushered in and out of our bodies
With the precision of a fined ordered orchestra (?)

That seemlessly flourishes as its sound is harmoniously
synchronized to an intended masterpiece directed
by a Mastermind!!


Hmmmm



Thank you

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another musing this fine day


so then, what pray tell has more “scientific methodology” going for it?


1.  The principle that things happen for “ no reason and no purpose” 

or 

2.  The principle that things were created and didn’t happen for “ no reason or purpose “



it appears the reason elements are altered in 
physical science is straight way due to interaction 

with other elements, and yet even that is an incomplete hypothesis? .,,,  there is definitely 
a reason that these elements were positioned
for them to benefit from this interaction ,


yet of all marvelous organisms , there is 

a uniquely “designed theory “  ...so designed to

argue that organisms themselves are not designed

by a super Creator .
unless science can answer this cavorteous

assumption  , science will continue to “evolve” 
with the winds of mythologies , ever seeking to
learn the truth, but not having the basic tools
to prove it with.   


Hmmmmm



thank you again

[By the bye]

ya, likewise it is murky to describe the illogic

of something , in logical discourse?



Illogic is the absence of logic.  



Hmmm , of course we know that’



thanks 

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Thus theoretical evolution is the absence 
of logical operatives such as design with

intent 



hmmmm

thank you 

[By the bye]

So, for practical reasoning, it is best to
ignore illogical ideologies

it only serves to murky up the truth!

thanks