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Post by Alarmist agenda on Mar 18, 2018 15:28:29 GMT -5
do people know that the end goal “agenda” for the
Alarmist camp is a one world government?
The whole world will want a super police , that will
Overrule all nations on issues regarding emissions
Whether or not we understand it or not it will eventually
Become a reality, and the government will tell us what
to think, how to think , and when to think....
Someday , but hopefully not on This unscientific issue,
IMO
There is so much that we do not know about
Climate cycles and weather cycles.
And why do evolutionists come up with the idea that
humans can control the average global temperature?
Our (human) power to effect a minute affect on the overall global
thermometer is greatly exaggerated, imo
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Post by xna on Mar 18, 2018 16:02:43 GMT -5
Hmmm, It’s growing, then It disappears and then it isn’t disappearing? So, global warming? Again? As in a quote from Edward Abbey: , “One man alone can be pretty dumb sometimes, but for real bona fide stupidity, there ain’t nothing can beat teamwork!! “
Who was he was teamed up with at the time? |
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Post by Okay on Mar 18, 2018 16:52:02 GMT -5
Hmmm, It’s growing, then It disappears and then it isn’t disappearing? So, global warming? Again? As in a quote from Edward Abbey: , “One man alone can be pretty dumb sometimes, but for real bona fide stupidity, there ain’t nothing can beat teamwork!! “
Who was he was teamed up with at the time?Ha. , good one! |
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Post by dmmichgood on Mar 18, 2018 18:13:40 GMT -5
do people know that the end goal “agenda” for the Alarmist camp is a one world government? The whole world will want a super police , that will Overrule all nations on issues regarding emissions Whether or not we understand it or not it will eventually Become a reality, and the government will tell us what to think, how to think , and when to think.... Someday , but hopefully not on This unscientific issue, IMO There is so much that we do not know about Climate cycles and weather cycles. And why do evolutionists come up with the idea that humans can control the average global temperature? Our (human) power to effect a minute affect on the overall global thermometer is greatly exaggerated, imo
The researchers found that reasons for believing in conspiracy theories can be grouped into three categories:
The desire for understanding and certainty
The desire for control and security
The desire to maintain a positive self-image
You can go into ore detail here:
www.psychologytoday.com/blog/talking-apes/201801/why-do-people-believe-in-conspiracy-theories
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Post by ⛄️ on Mar 18, 2018 19:29:42 GMT -5
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Post by rational on Mar 18, 2018 21:14:34 GMT -5
Hmmm, It’s growing, then It disappears and then it isn’t disappearing? So, global warming? Again? As in a quote from Edward Abbey: , “One man alone can be pretty dumb sometimes, but for real bona fide stupidity, there ain’t nothing can beat teamwork!! “
Who was he was teamed up with at the time?I think I would have to agree with "A Joke". Given the beliefs Abbey held he seemed to be addressing those who held beliefs exactly unlike those expressed by the unregistered multi-named individual who posts here. Abbey was an atheist who supported environmental issues. |
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Post by dmmichgood on Mar 18, 2018 21:29:51 GMT -5
My oh my, Look what I found !-now isn't all of this interesting!
The man in the video, -Steven Milloy, -who claims all that "scientific" knowledge, a lawyer & columnist for Fox News and a paid advocate for Phillip Morris, ExxonMobil and other corporations.
His main claim to fame is the junk-science arbiter at the head of The Advancement of Sound Science Coalition (later Center) (TASSC) pseudo-association established for the tobacco industry by APCO, which at that time was virtually Philip Morris's private public relations company.
Also from wiki:
Steven Milloy
From Wikipedia
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Steven J. Milloy is a lawyer, whose close financial and organizational ties to tobacco and oil companies have been the subject of criticism from a number of sources, as Milloy has consistently criticized the science linking secondhand smoke to health risks and human activity to global warming.[1][2]
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Among the topics Milloy has addressed are what he believes to be false claims regarding DDT, global warming, Alar, breast implants, secondhand smoke, ozone depletion, and mad cow disease.[4]
He is currently an adjunct scholar at the Competitive Enterprise Institute. Milloy is head of the Free Enterprise Action Fund, a mutual fund he runs with former tobacco executive Tom Borelli.
So, - you would rather listen to the someone who makes money from coal companies by denying the danger of products that certain corporations?
Some of us are not so easily fooled.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Mar 19, 2018 2:23:00 GMT -5
Also watch the time in the upper left cornerOh my!
Who was he was teamed up with at the time? I think I would have to agree with "A Joke". Given the beliefs Abbey held he seemed to be addressing those who held beliefs exactly unlike those expressed by the unregistered multi-named individual who posts here. Abbey was an atheist who supported environmental issues. He was keen on blowing coal mines up so I am surprised that the guest quotes him. |
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Post by 🤷♂️ on Mar 19, 2018 16:12:39 GMT -5
I think I would have to agree with "A Joke". Given the beliefs Abbey held he seemed to be addressing those who held beliefs exactly unlike those expressed by the unregistered multi-named individual who posts here. Abbey was an atheist who supported environmental issues. He was keen on blowing coal mines up so I am surprised that the guest quotes him. Hey, we all can get a few things right, I won’t begrudge my friends their moment to shine! |
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Post by 🤷♂️ on Mar 19, 2018 16:17:14 GMT -5
Another perspective:
Correlation is not necessarily a cause.
Many examples come to mind , notably , CO2 and hot air
When CO2 increases, there is more “hot air” around.
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Post by 🤷♂️ on Mar 19, 2018 16:45:12 GMT -5
In California, there are currently around 630 businesses
that pay “ carbon taxes” to the tune of $3 billion (to state)
That is a huge budget balancer for them
They can’t afford to stop this cash flow...even if many
Of those carbon companies decide to relocate.
It most likely will happen, unless a miracle happens?
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Post by friend on Mar 26, 2018 3:56:31 GMT -5
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Post by friend on Mar 27, 2018 14:01:17 GMT -5
Volcano watch silence ? Why?? Ok, scientists suggest we need to seed our atmosphere with table salt? 🤦♀️ oh no , say they aren’t serious!! youtu.be/Tdzd3IHUX4M |
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Post by Record cold on Mar 28, 2018 6:00:53 GMT -5
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Post by goodone on Mar 28, 2018 19:45:02 GMT -5
Here is a very calmly voiced opinion, that makes an awful lot of good common sense. Enjoy! : youtu.be/DCwWidWDDiM |
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Post by quotes on Mar 29, 2018 1:54:01 GMT -5
Hmmm, It’s growing, then It disappears and then it isn’t disappearing? So, global warming? Again? As in a quote from Edward Abbey: , “One man alone can be pretty dumb sometimes, but for real bona fide stupidity, there ain’t nothing can beat teamwork!! “
Who was he was teamed up with at the time?[ a great follow up quote from W.Paley, concerns the (stupidity) of ,; “contempt without a prior examination”. that might well be a very poorly and Uninformed team ? 🤫 hmmm |
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Post by dmmichgood on Mar 29, 2018 18:25:26 GMT -5
Also watch the time in the upper left cornerOh my!
Who was he was teamed up with at the time? a great follow up quote from W.Paley, concerns the (stupidity) of ,; “contempt without a prior examination”. that might well be a very poorly and Uninformed team ? 🤫 hmmm  |
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Post by snow on Mar 29, 2018 19:53:33 GMT -5
I live near Glacier National Park and I have been going there since a kid. The Glacier has receded so much during my lifetime that what used to be a short walk is now several miles. We are losing a great deal of our ice cap, not only in the form of old ice that your video is about, but also inland glaciers. This is happening in South America also. Another concern for global warming is the Atlantic conveyor belt and what would happen if it stopped. Here is an article on that subject. science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2004/05mar_arctic |
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Post by dmmichgood on Mar 29, 2018 20:38:05 GMT -5
I live near Glacier National Park and I have been going there since a kid. The Glacier has receded so much during my lifetime that what used to be a short walk is now several miles. We are losing a great deal of our ice cap, not only in the form of old ice that your video is about, but also inland glaciers. This is happening in South America also. Another concern for global warming is the Atlantic conveyor belt and what would happen if it stopped. Here is an article on that subject. science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2004/05mar_arctic |
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Post by snow on Mar 29, 2018 21:12:15 GMT -5
I live near Glacier National Park and I have been going there since a kid. The Glacier has receded so much during my lifetime that what used to be a short walk is now several miles. We are losing a great deal of our ice cap, not only in the form of old ice that your video is about, but also inland glaciers. This is happening in South America also. Another concern for global warming is the Atlantic conveyor belt and what would happen if it stopped. Here is an article on that subject. science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2004/05mar_arcticYes, and if that ever stopped it would put them back into an Ice Age. I read about this many years ago and the dangers if it ever stopped as it has done before. |
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Mar 29, 2018 21:57:18 GMT -5
NZ glaciers are a pale shadow of what they used to be. I have a friend who works on cruise ships in both Arctic and Antarctic waters. The last few years there has been hardly any sea ice in the Nor West Passage area. Down south there are great chunks of sea ice breaking off.
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Post by rational on Mar 29, 2018 22:07:37 GMT -5
NZ glaciers are a pale shadow of what they used to be. I have a friend who works on cruise ships in both Arctic and Antarctic waters. The last few years there has been hardly any sea ice in the Nor West Passage area. Down south there are great chunks of sea ice breaking off. Seems odd that there is hardly any sea ice when it has been shown that Antarctic sea ice is increasing even though the southern ocean is warming. I don't think there is any question that the land ice is breaking off at a greater rate. |
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Mar 29, 2018 22:24:47 GMT -5
NZ glaciers are a pale shadow of what they used to be. I have a friend who works on cruise ships in both Arctic and Antarctic waters. The last few years there has been hardly any sea ice in the Nor West Passage area. Down south there are great chunks of sea ice breaking off. Seems odd that there is hardly any sea ice when it has been shown that Antarctic sea ice is increasing even though the southern ocean is warming. I don't think there is any question that the land ice is breaking off at a greater rate. I think that there is a difference between sea ice and ice shelves which are a continuation of the glacier out into the sea. It is the ice shelves which are breaking off at an alarming rate. |
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Post by snow on Mar 29, 2018 22:29:14 GMT -5
Seems odd that there is hardly any sea ice when it has been shown that Antarctic sea ice is increasing even though the southern ocean is warming. I don't think there is any question that the land ice is breaking off at a greater rate. I think that there is a difference between sea ice and ice shelves which are a continuation of the glacier out into the sea. It is the ice shelves which are breaking off at an alarming rate. I seem to remember reading about that. Scientists are concerned about a particularly large one letting go and the repercussions on temporary water levels if it does. I'm sorry it was awhile ago and I don't remember the name of the shelf. |
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Post by friend on Mar 29, 2018 22:52:47 GMT -5
So on the one side, we read that increase of
Volcanic activity does increase CO2 , but because
this activity has not increased global temps, the reasoning
Is that volcanic emissions include various temperature neutralizing
elements( see research)
So to add these temperature neutralizing elements to
the atmosphere is a huge experiment , that might be
like playing with an atmospheric war’’??
Who could write the equation for , “atmospheric net neutrality”??
When can climate cycles dictate climate? (I suppose when humans
Learn to breathe like the fish in the ocean.. , or the exhale less CO2)
Forbid that we become treated like guinia pigs,aye
If we want valid climate models, why not set up
Data points as a group that can confirm the data
Is in fact , unbiased, and allow a joint study of scientists that have
differing persuasions? , jmt
If we want validity, it should be an unbiased study
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Post by friend on Mar 30, 2018 5:23:42 GMT -5
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Post by friend on Mar 30, 2018 17:19:12 GMT -5
Grand solar minimum ( serious decline in sun spots, minimal )
https://XnccE9FBRSs
technical yet understandable, imo.
Thanks
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Post by friend on Mar 30, 2018 17:23:10 GMT -5
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