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Post by Climate realist on Mar 12, 2018 4:17:21 GMT -5
Thankfully the tax money our government will Save from denouncing this fraudulent sceem Should help pay off 10% of our national debt!
Thank goodness for that
And even Canada is still subsidizing oil production!
Good for them, good for all of us humans that Depend on affordable heat and energy
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Post by dmmichgood on Mar 12, 2018 17:20:54 GMT -5
Thankfully the tax money our government will Save from denouncing this fraudulent sceem Should help pay off 10% of our national debt! Thank goodness for that And even Canada is still subsidizing oil production! Good for them, good for all of us humans that Depend on affordable heat and energy Will you be "thankful "and be glad for all the money that was "saved?" (spent) when Super-storms that have happened lately continues to happen more & more in the future: Super-storms
In August/September 2004 a wave of severe hurricanes left many Caribbean islands and parts of South Eastern United States devastated.
In the Caribbean many lives were lost and there was immense damage to entire cities. In the U.S. many lives were lost as well, some of the most expensive damage resulted from the successive hurricanes.
In its wake, scientists have reiterated that such super-storms may be a sign of things to come.
"Global warming may spawn more super-storms", Inter Press Service (IPS) notes.
Interviewing a biological oceanography professor at Harvard University, IPS notes that the world’s oceans are approaching 27 degrees C or warmer during the summer. This increases the odds of major storms.
When water reaches such temperatures, more of it evaporates, priming hurricane or cyclone formation. Once born, a hurricane needs only warm water to build and maintain its strength and intensity.
Furthermore, "as emissions of greenhouse gases continue to trap more and more of the sun’s energy, that energy has to be dissipated, resulting in stronger storms, more intense precipitation and higher winds."
There is abundant evidence of an unprecedented number of severe weather events in the past decade, [professor of biological oceanography at Harvard University, James] McCarthy says.
In 1998, Hurricane Mitch killed nearly 20,000 people in Central America, and more than 4,000 people died during disastrous flooding in China.
Bangladesh suffered some of its worst floods ever the following year, as did Venezuela.
Europe was hit with record floods in 2002, and then a record heat wave in 2003.
More recently, Brazil was struck by the first-ever recorded hurricane in the South Atlantic last March.
"Weather records are being set all the time now. We’re in an era of unprecedented extreme "
I wonder how much people actually need to see happen before they understand? Then of course it will be too late.
This planet, -which is so important to US, -cares not one whit about US!
If we mess it up it will simply slough us off and cast us away like a mass of gangrenous dead tissue.
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Post by rational on Mar 12, 2018 17:38:31 GMT -5
Can you back up the claim of 31,000 scientists? You say 31,000 scientists cannot be bought off but you have no problem in saying that the scientists opposing your theories have been bought off. Which statement is true? Could they both be false? Of the 30,000 claimed: So only .1% of the individuals on the list of 30,000 signatures have a scientific background in Climatology. To be fair we can add in those who claim to have a background in Atmospheric Science, which brings the total percentage of signatories with a background in climate change science to a whopping .5%. www.desmogblog.com/30000-global-warming-petition-easily-debunked-propagandaThe 30,000 "scientists" are people with at least a Bachelors of Science in some field, including computer science and other non-research science degrees. They signed a petition back in 1998 saying that they did not believe in Global Warming. Many of them are dead now. None have agreed to be party to a lawsuit.
After nearly two years no lawsuit has been filed. There are actually no grounds that a lawsuit could be based on against Al Gore on the issue of Global Warming. Over the last twelve years not one single peer reviewed scientific paper has been published that challenges Global Warming. There is no "scientific debate," and even if there was one a person cannot be sued for supporting a reasonably sound scientific hypothesis, even if it turned out to be wrong.
So the real "headline" here should be "One person who claims to have the support of 30,000 other people who signed a petition eleven years ago and have not given their consent to be used for these purposes wishes he could sue Al Gore but has no grounds to do so, and will not do so."
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Post by Roselyn T on Mar 12, 2018 17:45:13 GMT -5
Now that the correct data has been identified We can stop funding the frauds! 🤷♂️ Not any thing to fear, The cooler minds will prevail You obviously didn't read the link !!!
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Post by simon&garfunkel on Mar 12, 2018 19:21:26 GMT -5
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Post by Stillsmallvoice on Mar 12, 2018 21:13:21 GMT -5
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Post by Stillsmallvoice on Mar 12, 2018 21:14:45 GMT -5
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Post by Stillsmallvoice on Mar 12, 2018 21:16:41 GMT -5
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Post by Stillsmallvoice on Mar 12, 2018 21:24:59 GMT -5
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Post by Stillsmallvoice on Mar 13, 2018 11:59:36 GMT -5
I have been “hearing” the weather is improving and the next year will be much better than last year We like to hear that! We hear what we want to hear, and disregard the (rest) ==all those lies. 🤷♂️
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Post by Stillsmallvoice on Mar 13, 2018 12:18:16 GMT -5
Using the models that “seem “ to extrapolate
that some areas of the earth will have lots of
extreme weather. This is, in fact,an ostentatious tip point? (no point whatsoever) IMO.
🤷♂️
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Post by stillsmallvoice on Mar 13, 2018 12:29:27 GMT -5
Most logically, we are a perplexed and bewildered
Citizenry, given to hypes, exaggerations, drama,
So what else is new under the sun? Nothing
We are required to interpret data, and yet we have
NO data to hold CO2 in contempt!
That’s a hard pill for alarmists to swallow, eh?
If the truth hasn’t yet been discovered, yet, all we need Is to do an experiment, (or thought exercise ). Ok?
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Post by galileo on Mar 13, 2018 13:01:16 GMT -5
[quote timestamp= ]So only .1% of the individuals on the list of 30,000 signatures have a scientific background ] [/blockquote][/quote] good point mr rational(?) . some the most inspiring years of my life were spent in solitary confines! don’t buck the status quo, by all means!
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Post by rational on Mar 13, 2018 16:00:10 GMT -5
[quote timestamp= ]So only .1% of the individuals on the list of 30,000 signatures have a scientific background ] [/blockquote][/quote] good point mr rational(?) . some the most inspiring years of my life were spent in solitary confines! don’t buck the status quo, by all means![/quote]The use for reports like the 30,000 'scientists' are good only to draw the imaginary lines you choose to follow.
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Post by galileo on Mar 13, 2018 16:55:29 GMT -5
[/blockquote][/quote] good point mr rational(?) . some the most inspiring years of my life were spent in solitary confines! don’t buck the status quo, by all means![/quote]The use for reports like the 30,000 'scientists' are good only to draw the imaginary lines you choose to follow. [/quote] oh, don’t be so confident that your lines can shed light in this confine.🤷♂️
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Post by dmmichgood on Mar 13, 2018 22:10:07 GMT -5
[/blockquote][/quote] good point mr rational(?) . some the most inspiring years of my life were spent in solitary confines! don’t buck the status quo, by all means![/quote]The use for reports like the 30,000 'scientists' are good only to draw the imaginary lines you choose to follow. [/quote] oh, don’t be so confident that your lines can shed light in this confine.🤷♂️[/quote] It is rather obvious that you, -Mr. Galileo, -unlike the man whose name you have usurped, - that you live in a solitary darkness of your own making and you want to remain there.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Mar 13, 2018 23:31:22 GMT -5
DM, I have given up on this thread due to the multiple guests who live little of any worth. It reminds of what Dr Martin Luther King said once.
Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.”
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Post by galileo on Mar 14, 2018 0:45:28 GMT -5
DM, I have given up on this thread due to the multiple guests who live little of any worth. It reminds of what Dr Martin Luther King said once. Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.” Amen, and truly a man after my own conviction &conscience!
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Post by galileo on Mar 14, 2018 1:15:50 GMT -5
[/blockquote][/quote] good point mr rational(?) . some the most inspiring years of my life were spent in solitary confines! don’t buck the status quo, by all means![/quote]The use for reports like the 30,000 'scientists' are good only to draw the imaginary lines you choose to follow. [/quote] oh, don’t be so confident that your lines can shed light in this confine.🤷♂️[/quote] It is rather obvious that you, -Mr. Galileo, -unlike the man whose name you have usurped, - that you live in a solitary darkness of your own making and you want to remain there.[/quote] Oh, i find these confines to be a most inspiring home. Very enlightened , I may add. I mostly fear for those that live in true spiritual darkness and have no hope? Oe mi.
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Post by rational on Mar 14, 2018 7:47:33 GMT -5
DM, I have given up on this thread due to the multiple guests who live little of any worth. It reminds of what Dr Martin Luther King said once. Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.” I agree there is little to be gained by trying to have a discussion since staying on track seems to be impossible. Instead of engaging in discussion the response is more babbling on unrelated topics under a different name. I try to respond to the piles of incorrect information that is posted hoping that other readers will be able to see there is virtually no veritable data to support the claims.
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Post by galileo on Mar 14, 2018 8:47:01 GMT -5
DM, I have given up on this thread due to the multiple guests who live little of any worth. It reminds of what Dr Martin Luther King said once. Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.” I agree there is little to be gained by trying to have a discussion since staying on track seems to be impossible. Instead of engaging in discussion the response is more babbling on unrelated topics under a different name. I try to respond to the piles of incorrect information that is posted hoping that other readers will be able to see there is virtually no veritable data to support the claims. [br yes, it’s settled already! 🤷♂️
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Post by Still smallvoice on Mar 14, 2018 9:21:25 GMT -5
“The more things change, the more they stay the same”
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Post by Stillsmallvoice on Mar 14, 2018 12:42:29 GMT -5
So, take your pick, either this idea is a “hoax” Or the profiteers are a bunch of hypocrites.
🤷♂️ Hmmmm?
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Post by Stillsmallvoice on Mar 14, 2018 13:02:25 GMT -5
So, take your pick, either this idea is a “hoax” Or the profiteers are a bunch of hypocrites. 🤷♂️ Hmmmm? Weather (pun intended) you like Trump or not he is trying to get a better message out , by way of firing Tillerson, it seems his new appointment will be polarizing the liberals that favor hysterical and panic approach , to a balanced systemic approach to our wonderful earth We are waiting with hope. 🌏
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Post by rational on Mar 15, 2018 14:56:48 GMT -5
So, take your pick, either this idea is a “hoax” Or the profiteers are a bunch of hypocrites. 🤷♂️ Hmmmm? Weather (pun intended) you like Trump or not he is trying to get a better message out , by way of firing Tillerson, it seems his new appointment will be polarizing the liberals that favor hysterical and panic approach , to a balanced systemic approach to our wonderful earth We are waiting with hope. 🌏 Hope didn't wait for the final shoe to drop - she knew the truth and bolted. Tillerson is out because he dared to speak the truth and said what many others were afraid to say out loud.
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Post by A joke on Mar 17, 2018 19:23:44 GMT -5
how many Democrats does it take to fix a problem??
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No one knows? , it hasn’t happened yet.
Hmmmm😉
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Post by xna on Mar 18, 2018 13:49:50 GMT -5
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Post by A joke on Mar 18, 2018 14:52:19 GMT -5
Hmmm, It’s growing, then It disappears and then it isn’t disappearing? So, global warming? Again? As in a quote from Edward Abbey: , “One man alone can be pretty dumb sometimes, but for real bona fide stupidity, there ain’t nothing can beat teamwork!! “ hmmm,
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