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Post by Commonman on Jun 13, 2016 17:02:39 GMT -5
The reason there are so many beliefs , is because
people are trying to find the belief that they
would most like to defend and support.
Just because I am a believer, shouldn't mean
that I agree with other people that I have chosen
to reject other beliefs , in favor of the
personal belief that I defend and support.
That is my opinion....
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Post by dmmichgood on Jun 13, 2016 19:35:06 GMT -5
The reason there are so many beliefs, is because people are trying to find the belief that they would most like to defend and support. Just because I am a believer, shouldn't mean that I agree with other people that I have chosen to reject other beliefs, in favor of the personal belief that I defend and support. That is my pinion....
It seems to me that anyone looking for a authentic belief should be looking for something that showed the validity of it's supposition.
That is why I cannot believe in "miracles," whether done by someone called Jesus or anyone else.
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Post by Commonman on Jun 13, 2016 22:01:56 GMT -5
The reason there are so many beliefs, is because people are trying to find the belief that they would most like to defend and support. Just because I am a believer, shouldn't mean that I agree with other people that I have chosen to reject other beliefs, in favor of the personal belief that I defend and support. That is my pinion....
It seems to me that anyone looking for a authentic belief should be looking for something that showed the validity of it's supposition.
That is why I cannot believe in "miracles," whether done by someone called Jesus or anyone else.
And do you call nature a miracle ? |
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Post by dmmichgood on Jun 14, 2016 1:17:43 GMT -5
Not sure what you are saying here.
It seems to me that anyone looking for a authentic belief should be looking for something that showed the validity of it's supposition.
That is why I cannot believe in "miracles," whether done by someone called Jesus or anyone else.
And do you call nature a miracle ?
No, -because the definition of a miracle is "an unusual and mysterious event that is thought to have been caused by a god because it does not follow the usual laws of nature" |
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Post by Commonman on Jun 14, 2016 2:27:31 GMT -5
So , in your words Nature makes the rules, and
no one can mess with Nature.
Sounds like Nature has a strong will to govern us.
How long has Nature been around, anyway ?
venture a few thousand years......
Is it possible that Someone controls Nature, even
though you are not aware of who is....
just thinking
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Post by maryhig on Jun 14, 2016 3:53:44 GMT -5
And do you call nature a miracle ?
No, -because the definition of a miracle is "an unusual and mysterious event that is thought to have been caused by a god because it does not follow the usual laws of nature" Nature is absolutely a miracle, everything that lives is a wonderful miracle. The laws of nature are created by God! And there is one that is dead that is a miracle, the moon. The moon gives light in darkness. This is like a strong man of God, God is like the sun, the life giver, he gives out light and warmth and keeps everything alive, without the sun we'd be dead, and without God we would be dead. So the moon is a dead planet, it reflects light in darkness, like a man of God. And the moon can't do any of this without the sun. It provides the light, and men of God can't do anything without God. He through Christ is the light giver. Also, the moon only has a faction of the light that the sun has. But it uses what light is given by the sun and sends it to us whilst we are in darkness. A man of God is needed for those in the dark and gives out the light he had received from God to those in darkness. The stars are a picture of all Gods people but in a lesser degree. Different sizes but all light givers in the darkness. And together they are guides to guide the way in the dark. Then there is the day, once we walk in the day we have no need of the moon, because we have direct light from the sun, this is like not needing the man, he's done his job when we were in darkness. We are now walking in the light, which is walking with Christ and having the holy spirit in the heart. Everything is a miracle that God has made, and there is a picture of him in everything he has created Us included. As my uncle used to say, having God in the heart is like having apples of gold in pictures of silver, the fruit of gold is the word of God within, and a picture shows an image, we show Christ through us. The golden fruit is like the sun, and the picture of silver is like the moon, just showing the image. |
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Post by Commonman on Jul 1, 2016 12:17:02 GMT -5
No, -because the definition of a miracle is "an unusual and mysterious event that is thought to have been caused by a god because it does not follow the usual laws of nature" Nature is absolutely a miracle, everything that lives is a wonderful miracle. The laws of nature are created by God! And there is one that is dead that is a miracle, the moon. The moon gives light in darkness. This is like a strong man of God, God is like the sun, the life giver, he gives out light and warmth and keeps everything alive, without the sun we'd be dead, and without God we would be dead. So the moon is a dead planet, it reflects light in darkness, like a man of God. And the moon can't do any of this without the sun. It provides the light, and men of God can't do anything without God. He through Christ is the light giver. Also, the moon only has a faction of the light that the sun has. But it uses what light is given by the sun and sends it to us whilst we are in darkness. A man of God is needed for those in the dark and gives out the light he had received from God to those in darkness. The stars are a picture of all Gods people but in a lesser degree. Different sizes but all light givers in the darkness. And together they are guides to guide the way in the dark. Then there is the day, once we walk in the day we have no need of the moon, because we have direct light from the sun, this is like not needing the man, he's done his job when we were in darkness. We are now walking in the light, which is walking with Christ and having the holy spirit in the heart. Everything is a miracle that God has made, and there is a picture of him in everything he has created Us included. As my uncle used to say, having God in the heart is like having apples of gold in pictures of silver, the fruit of gold is the word of God within, and a picture shows an image, we show Christ through us. The golden fruit is like the sun, and the picture of silver is like the moon, just showing the image. Thank you MH. |
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Post by Commonman on Jul 1, 2016 12:30:26 GMT -5
In our search, we can read historic accounts
of people that lived in a country that was
considered the "home of Gods people" (Israel )
If one was to believe it, then you will believe .
If you " think" a group of men "conspired together
to paint a picture of God , that only those thtat
have truly served and honored Him were believers,
then you are truly buying into false teaching,.
God is just and moral by eternal standards.
Eternal standards are models of how a good
healthy respect and relating should be handled,
even in this carnal world.
We have no "right" to complain to our creator,
even if we don't believe He created you.
If He didn't, WHY would you even worry about
what He does? If He did then , it is best to
Accept that what He says is BEST even if we
do not understand now,.
Even Christ said, "not my will, but thine"
We can appreciate that He knew what was best.
By definition: God is Good. There is no doubt
about that definition.
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Post by Commonman on Jul 14, 2016 0:53:39 GMT -5
Was reading from a website that refers to "atheists" as spiritual
parasites. hmmm, they don't feed on the source of spiritual food,
but they feed on those that have spiritual life?
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Post by Commonman on Jul 14, 2016 1:08:18 GMT -5
An interesting article from the LA Times:
"The Zombie spirituality of atheism"
it's definitely an eye opener for a parasitic spirituality?
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Post by Commonman on Jul 14, 2016 1:26:55 GMT -5
Q: has atheism founded any medical hospitals yet?
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Post by dmmichgood on Jul 14, 2016 3:04:45 GMT -5
Was reading from a website that refers to "atheists" as spiritual parasites. hmmm, they don't feed on the source of spiritual food, but they feed on those that have spiritual life?  Seems to me that it you theists are the parasite, you believe that you can't live without a spirit of some kind, in your case, GOD.
Atheist certainly have a lot more to "feed" on than your "spiritual" ideas! |
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Post by Commonman on Jul 14, 2016 5:24:56 GMT -5
Was reading from a website that refers to "atheists" as spiritual parasites. hmmm, they don't feed on the source of spiritual food, but they feed on those that have spiritual life?
Atheist certainly have a lot more to "feed" on than your "spiritual" ideas!would an atheist build a hospital? |
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Post by rational on Jul 27, 2016 8:32:10 GMT -5
Q: has atheism founded any medical hospitals yet? Has faith healed any disease? |
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Post by Commonman on Jul 27, 2016 14:43:00 GMT -5
Q: has atheism founded any medical hospitals yet? Has faith healed any disease? several people in the bible were healed, including Paul (bitten by poisonous snake) |
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Post by Grant on Jul 27, 2016 14:48:31 GMT -5
Plenty of people have claimed to have been healed by prayer but of course skeptics would not believe it.
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Post by Commonman on Jul 27, 2016 14:55:00 GMT -5
Is not comforting a patient , a vital part of healing him/her ?
it does seem to be. and it is practiced quite a bit in
most medical hospitals
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Post by Commonman on Jul 27, 2016 14:57:21 GMT -5
Plenty of people have claimed to have been healed by prayer but of course skeptics would not believe it. yes there are many people that are healed and comforted |
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Post by Commonman on Jul 27, 2016 15:07:26 GMT -5
Q: has atheism founded any medical hospitals yet? Has faith healed any disease? if you injure yourself, do you have faith that the info/instructions that God put into your DNA will help to heal you?  |
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Post by rational on Jul 28, 2016 11:34:31 GMT -5
Plenty of people have claimed to have been healed by prayer but of course skeptics would not believe it. If only they could provide verifiable proof... When those claims are investigated they somehow vanish like the morning mist. |
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Post by rational on Jul 28, 2016 11:36:08 GMT -5
Has faith healed any disease? if you injure yourself, do you have faith that the info/instructions that God put into your DNA will help to heal you? :) I head to a medical professional. I have seen the results of some of the products of DNA and it doesn't fill me with comfort! |
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Post by rational on Jul 28, 2016 11:36:55 GMT -5
Plenty of people have claimed to have been healed by prayer but of course skeptics would not believe it. yes there are many people that are healed and comforted Comforted - yes. Healed - no. |
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Post by Commonman on Jul 28, 2016 21:53:42 GMT -5
if you injure yourself, do you have faith that the info/instructions that God put into your DNA will help to heal you? I head to a medical professional. I have seen the results of some of the products of DNA and it doesn't fill me with comfort! [b all minor injuries will heal by the instructions of DNA. it doesn't take very long for the healing to start, and i have faith that God uses the DNA to heal minor injuries. i.e.: Cuts and bruises Broken bones need to be set by someone that knows how to set them, but again, the healing is done by DNA, thank God for intelligent DNA. we would never heal if our bodies wouldn't do the healing. doctors are very nesessary to assist in this event, IMO. |
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Post by Commonman on Jul 28, 2016 21:58:22 GMT -5
yes there are many people that are healed and comforted Comforted - yes. Healed - no. you must have a very dillusioned Doctor, if he believes he can take over the healing process. your own body can do a lot to heal itself . It's in your DNA. |
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Post by dmmichgood on Jul 29, 2016 1:56:07 GMT -5
Plenty of people have claimed to have been healed by prayer but of course skeptics would not believe it.
You can google some of the studies to see how what they found. |
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Post by Grant on Jul 29, 2016 2:43:25 GMT -5
Plenty of people have claimed to have been healed by prayer but of course skeptics would not believe it.
You can google some of the studies to see how what they found.You might not trust what you see, hear and experience but I do. You might doubt your experiences but I known mine. I don't doubt my reality, do you doubt yours? |
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Post by rational on Jul 29, 2016 8:07:20 GMT -5
You might not trust what you see, hear and experience but I do. You might doubt your experiences but I known mine. I don't doubt my reality, do you doubt yours? I doubt mine every day and question what I see. Optical illusions are the easiest to demonstrate this. Watching a good magician also is a good demonstration. |
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Post by dmmichgood on Jul 30, 2016 4:16:43 GMT -5
Doesn't have to be skeptics, enuf, -but scientists have done studies on healing and prayer.
You can google some of the studies to see how what they found.
You might doubt your experiences but I known mine. I don't doubt my reality, do you doubt yours?
Enuf,- if you "saw " the same thing that I "saw" last year one evening in the emergency room, -you would reconsider that it wouldn't be wise to "trust" everything that you "see, hear and experience!"
You would be ignoring that what was happening to you was something seriously wrong! |
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Seems to me that it you theists are the parasite, you believe that you can't live without a spirit of some kind, in your case, GOD.
