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Post by Roselyn T on Feb 22, 2016 7:19:24 GMT -5
So the workers in your "only right way" don't have balance because they don't carry guns !!! I've never said the truth is the only right way...
on that particular issue yes the only question is what kinda firearm since they live out of 2 bags and a garment bag I would suggest a pistol...
Have you every asked a worker why they don't carry a gun ? Just imagine them getting up and preaching about going out in faith & that God will protect his people, then they carry a gun in their bag ! Seriously @wally !
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2016 7:19:50 GMT -5
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[/quote] Fact is, Wally, in any other civilized country protecting oneself from violence is not a 24/7 exercise like millions upon millions take it in this country. But you don't have your guns for protection anyway. You're preparing for a firefight. And unless you have some others to help you with your guns, I think you're greatly underestimating your attackers, especially the really dangerous ones.[/quote][/p]
your simply misleading everyone when you say that...i'm not talking about the church of satan and its official dogma i'm talking about a real disciple of satan who wants to do evil...
no my firearms are strictly for self-defense and not offense. how am I underestimating my "attackers"? they would be here to do violence and I am prepared to meet that violence with a firearm...they can come through the front door or the windows doesn't matter...they can case my place if they want..they can be armed with a knife and firearm or blunt instrument doesn't matter...they can try do get the drop on me outside my home im prepared for that...
[/quote] Seriously @wally , what a way to live ! What if the person you ASSume is there to do violence only wants food ? Surely that must happen sometimes ?[/quote][/p]
that would become clear when I tell them to get down on the ground if they wish to do violence they wont listen if they want food they will listen...I've never actually heard of someone performing a home invasion for food I have heard of them shop lifting though at a store...
[/quote] I cannot imagine wanting to live in a place where you have to think/live how you describe. [/quote][/p]
once you wake up to the reality of a violent world it becomes second nature....
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Post by Roselyn T on Feb 22, 2016 7:22:47 GMT -5
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[/quote] Fact is, Wally, in any other civilized country protecting oneself from violence is not a 24/7 exercise like millions upon millions take it in this country. But you don't have your guns for protection anyway. You're preparing for a firefight. And unless you have some others to help you with your guns, I think you're greatly underestimating your attackers, especially the really dangerous ones.[/quote][/p]
your simply misleading everyone when you say that...i'm not talking about the church of satan and its official dogma i'm talking about a real disciple of satan who wants to do evil...
no my firearms are strictly for self-defense and not offense. how am I underestimating my "attackers"? they would be here to do violence and I am prepared to meet that violence with a firearm...they can come through the front door or the windows doesn't matter...they can case my place if they want..they can be armed with a knife and firearm or blunt instrument doesn't matter...they can try do get the drop on me outside my home im prepared for that...
[/quote] Seriously @wally , what a way to live ! What if the person you ASSume is there to do violence only wants food ? Surely that must happen sometimes ?[/quote][/p]
that would become clear when I tell them to get down on the ground if they wish to do violence they wont listen if they want food they will listen...I've never actually heard of someone performing a home invasion for food I have heard of them shop lifting though at a store...
[/quote] I cannot imagine wanting to live in a place where you have to think/live how you describe. [/quote][/p]
once you wake up to the reality of a violent world it becomes second nature....
So are you saying its second nature to be ready anytime to kill another human ?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2016 7:24:22 GMT -5
I've never said the truth is the only right way...
on that particular issue yes the only question is what kinda firearm since they live out of 2 bags and a garment bag I would suggest a pistol...
Have you every asked a worker why they don't carry a gun ? Just imagine them getting up and preaching about going out in faith & that God will protect his people, then they carry a gun in their bag ! Seriously @wally ! I would just receive the typical pacifist answer "thou shalt not kill" which is incorrect BTW...
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Post by Roselyn T on Feb 22, 2016 7:25:16 GMT -5
Have you every asked a worker why they don't carry a gun ? Just imagine them getting up and preaching about going out in faith & that God will protect his people, then they carry a gun in their bag ! Seriously @wally ! I would just receive the typical pacifist answer "thou shalt not kill" which is incorrect BTW... So are you saying the workers view on guns is wrong ?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2016 7:25:20 GMT -5
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[/quote] Fact is, Wally, in any other civilized country protecting oneself from violence is not a 24/7 exercise like millions upon millions take it in this country. But you don't have your guns for protection anyway. You're preparing for a firefight. And unless you have some others to help you with your guns, I think you're greatly underestimating your attackers, especially the really dangerous ones.[/quote][/p]
your simply misleading everyone when you say that...i'm not talking about the church of satan and its official dogma i'm talking about a real disciple of satan who wants to do evil...
no my firearms are strictly for self-defense and not offense. how am I underestimating my "attackers"? they would be here to do violence and I am prepared to meet that violence with a firearm...they can come through the front door or the windows doesn't matter...they can case my place if they want..they can be armed with a knife and firearm or blunt instrument doesn't matter...they can try do get the drop on me outside my home im prepared for that...
[/quote] Seriously @wally , what a way to live ! What if the person you ASSume is there to do violence only wants food ? Surely that must happen sometimes ?[/quote][/p]
that would become clear when I tell them to get down on the ground if they wish to do violence they wont listen if they want food they will listen...I've never actually heard of someone performing a home invasion for food I have heard of them shop lifting though at a store...
[/quote] I cannot imagine wanting to live in a place where you have to think/live how you describe. [/quote][/p]
once you wake up to the reality of a violent world it becomes second nature....
So are you saying its second nature to be ready anytime to kill another human ?
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I violent one yes...you have to if you wish to survive...
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Post by Roselyn T on Feb 22, 2016 7:27:12 GMT -5
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[/quote] Fact is, Wally, in any other civilized country protecting oneself from violence is not a 24/7 exercise like millions upon millions take it in this country. But you don't have your guns for protection anyway. You're preparing for a firefight. And unless you have some others to help you with your guns, I think you're greatly underestimating your attackers, especially the really dangerous ones.[/quote][/p]
your simply misleading everyone when you say that...i'm not talking about the church of satan and its official dogma i'm talking about a real disciple of satan who wants to do evil...
no my firearms are strictly for self-defense and not offense. how am I underestimating my "attackers"? they would be here to do violence and I am prepared to meet that violence with a firearm...they can come through the front door or the windows doesn't matter...they can case my place if they want..they can be armed with a knife and firearm or blunt instrument doesn't matter...they can try do get the drop on me outside my home im prepared for that...
[/quote] Seriously @wally , what a way to live ! What if the person you ASSume is there to do violence only wants food ? Surely that must happen sometimes ?[/quote][/p]
that would become clear when I tell them to get down on the ground if they wish to do violence they wont listen if they want food they will listen...I've never actually heard of someone performing a home invasion for food I have heard of them shop lifting though at a store...
[/quote] I cannot imagine wanting to live in a place where you have to think/live how you describe. [/quote][/p]
once you wake up to the reality of a violent world it becomes second nature....
So are you saying its second nature to be ready anytime to kill another human ?
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I violent one yes...you have to if you wish to survive...
[/quote] What if its God's plan for a person not to survive ? Or are you in control of your life ?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2016 7:30:25 GMT -5
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[/quote] Fact is, Wally, in any other civilized country protecting oneself from violence is not a 24/7 exercise like millions upon millions take it in this country. But you don't have your guns for protection anyway. You're preparing for a firefight. And unless you have some others to help you with your guns, I think you're greatly underestimating your attackers, especially the really dangerous ones.[/quote][/p]
your simply misleading everyone when you say that...i'm not talking about the church of satan and its official dogma i'm talking about a real disciple of satan who wants to do evil...
no my firearms are strictly for self-defense and not offense. how am I underestimating my "attackers"? they would be here to do violence and I am prepared to meet that violence with a firearm...they can come through the front door or the windows doesn't matter...they can case my place if they want..they can be armed with a knife and firearm or blunt instrument doesn't matter...they can try do get the drop on me outside my home im prepared for that...
[/quote] Seriously @wally , what a way to live ! What if the person you ASSume is there to do violence only wants food ? Surely that must happen sometimes ?[/quote][/p]
that would become clear when I tell them to get down on the ground if they wish to do violence they wont listen if they want food they will listen...I've never actually heard of someone performing a home invasion for food I have heard of them shop lifting though at a store...
[/quote] I cannot imagine wanting to live in a place where you have to think/live how you describe. [/quote][/p]
once you wake up to the reality of a violent world it becomes second nature....
So are you saying its second nature to be ready anytime to kill another human ?
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I violent one yes...you have to if you wish to survive...
[/quote] What if its God's plan for a person not to survive ? Or are you in control of your life ?[/quote][/p]
then you wont survive no matter what you do...
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Post by Roselyn T on Feb 22, 2016 7:37:52 GMT -5
@wally you didn't answer the question, as a Christian I would think that you believe God is in charge of your life, but maybe you don't think that way ! Don't you believe God has a plan for your life ? So what is the point of having a gun that could be turned on you by the bad guy ? I don't see how you can have it both ways.
You said the workers don't have guns because they don't have balance, but you don't seem to get it that how can they say they go out in faith, then carry a gun ?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2016 11:57:21 GMT -5
@wally you didn't answer the question, as a Christian I would think that you believe God is in charge of your life, but maybe you don't think that way ! Don't you believe God has a plan for your life ? So what is the point of having a gun that could be turned on you by the bad guy ? I don't see how you can have it both ways. You said the workers don't have guns because they don't have balance, but you don't seem to get it that how can they say they go out in faith, then carry a gun ? God is in charge and he has allowed me to own firearms for a reason...
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Post by BobWilliston on Feb 22, 2016 13:33:16 GMT -5
your simply misleading everyone when you say that...i'm not talking about the church of satan and its official dogma i'm talking about a real disciple of satan who wants to do evil... Your understanding of disciples of Satan is just in your mind, Wally. It's a medieval catholic notion that never really existed -- much the same as the medieval Christian association of witches with Satan -- never existed in reality. That's the dumb ones. The smart ones, if they want your stuff, will do it when you're not at home. The mentally deranged ones, who want YOU, will ambush you somewhere away from home if they're smart, or make a lot of noise getting into your house, if they're stupid. You'll have to sit up all night to catch them. The best approach would be to go out in the desert and record a loud series of gunfire, and wire your house so that if someone walks into your yard the tape will play loudly and wake up the neighborhood. Unless, of course, you're an annoyance to your neighbors, in which case you're gonna lose in the end anyway.
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Post by BobWilliston on Feb 22, 2016 13:35:00 GMT -5
@wally you didn't answer the question, as a Christian I would think that you believe God is in charge of your life, but maybe you don't think that way ! Don't you believe God has a plan for your life ? So what is the point of having a gun that could be turned on you by the bad guy ? I don't see how you can have it both ways. You said the workers don't have guns because they don't have balance, but you don't seem to get it that how can they say they go out in faith, then carry a gun ? God is in charge and he has allowed me to own firearms for a reason... That must be why I've never been caught with the woman next door. Must be a reason.
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Post by SharonArnold on Feb 22, 2016 14:48:38 GMT -5
then you wont survive no matter what you do... News flash, Wally. *You* won’t survive, no matter what you do. There’s the old saying “Life is a sexually transmitted terminal disease.” Someday, the sun is going to rise and the earth is going to continue its path around the sun. Life is going to continue, for most people, much as it is. Only *you* are no longer going to be here. It’s worth contemplating, internalizing, embracing. "Survival" is overrated. With or without guns.
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Post by Roselyn T on Feb 22, 2016 18:10:14 GMT -5
@wally you didn't answer the question, as a Christian I would think that you believe God is in charge of your life, but maybe you don't think that way ! Don't you believe God has a plan for your life ? So what is the point of having a gun that could be turned on you by the bad guy ? I don't see how you can have it both ways. You said the workers don't have guns because they don't have balance, but you don't seem to get it that how can they say they go out in faith, then carry a gun ? God is in charge and he has allowed me to own firearms for a reason... @wally, can homosexuals use the same logic ? God is in charge, he allowed some people to be born that way, for a reason ?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2016 19:02:15 GMT -5
God is in charge and he has allowed me to own firearms for a reason... @wally , can homosexuals use the same logic ? God is in charge, he allowed some people to be born that way, for a reason ? whereas I can find balance with owning a firearm in the bible you cannot find any balance for homosexuality in the bible. nice try though
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Post by Roselyn T on Feb 22, 2016 21:00:59 GMT -5
@wally , can homosexuals use the same logic ? God is in charge, he allowed some people to be born that way, for a reason ? whereas I can find balance with owning a firearm in the bible you cannot find any balance for homosexuality in the bible. nice try though
You can find balance with owning a firearm in the bible, by cherry picking verses to justify your view. ( But not everyone agrees with your view on certain verses) I think I could cherry pick enough verses to justify homosexuality in the bible. ( Not everyone would agree with my view on certain verses) This is what happens when people live their lives by a book written by men how many thousand years ago ! Just curious exactly what you think the reason is God allowed you to have firearms ? ( Other than to kill another person that God has created) As a so called Christian @wally, which one does more harm, or don't you follow the verse about loving your neighbour?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2016 21:22:09 GMT -5
whereas I can find balance with owning a firearm in the bible you cannot find any balance for homosexuality in the bible. nice try though
You can find balance with owning a firearm in the bible, by cherry picking verses to justify your view. ( But not everyone agrees with your view on certain verses) I think I could cherry pick enough verses to justify homosexuality in the bible. ( Not everyone would agree with my view on certain verses) This is what happens when people live their lives by a book written by men how many thousand years ago ! Just curious exactly what you think the reason is God allowed you to have firearms ? ( Other than to kill another person that God has created) As a so called Christian @wally , which one does more harm, or don't you follow the verse about loving your neighbour? to protect my family and friends and neighbors. I must admit though it would be risky in this day and age to protect a neighbor as they have been known to turn on ya...
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Post by Roselyn T on Feb 22, 2016 21:42:45 GMT -5
You can find balance with owning a firearm in the bible, by cherry picking verses to justify your view. ( But not everyone agrees with your view on certain verses) I think I could cherry pick enough verses to justify homosexuality in the bible. ( Not everyone would agree with my view on certain verses) This is what happens when people live their lives by a book written by men how many thousand years ago ! Just curious exactly what you think the reason is God allowed you to have firearms ? ( Other than to kill another person that God has created) As a so called Christian @wally , which one does more harm, or don't you follow the verse about loving your neighbour? to protect my family and friends and neighbors. I must admit though it would be risky in this day and age to protect a neighbor as they have been known to turn on ya... Did God tell you that @wally, or are you assuming that is the reason ?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2016 21:48:10 GMT -5
to protect my family and friends and neighbors. I must admit though it would be risky in this day and age to protect a neighbor as they have been known to turn on ya... Did God tell you that @wally , or are you assuming that is the reason ? the Lord said as long as its for self-defense its okay and that means being attacked physically by a violent person...
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Post by Roselyn T on Feb 22, 2016 21:50:49 GMT -5
Did God tell you that @wally , or are you assuming that is the reason ? the Lord said as long as its for self-defense its okay and that means being attacked physically by a violent person...
So God didn't tell you personally ? You are cherry picking a verse again to justify your views ?
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Post by Roselyn T on Feb 22, 2016 21:52:31 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2016 21:57:08 GMT -5
the Lord said as long as its for self-defense its okay and that means being attacked physically by a violent person...
So God didn't tell you personally ? You are cherry picking a verse again to justify your views ? what part of "the Lord said" do you not understand?
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Post by Roselyn T on Feb 22, 2016 22:01:47 GMT -5
So God didn't tell you personally ? You are cherry picking a verse again to justify your views ? what part of "the Lord said" do you not understand?
So God didn't tell you personally ! Thanks @wally once again you have justified YOUR PERSONAL VIEWS by cherry picking verses out of a book written by men thousands of years ago, but how dare a person be born a homosexual, even though there are verses to support people being gay in that same book !
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2016 22:02:23 GMT -5
few(thankfully) believe that revisionist tripe but go ahead and believe in it if you want, God will judge us all on judgment day...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2016 22:03:42 GMT -5
what part of "the Lord said" do you not understand?
So God didn't tell you personally ! Thanks @wally once again you have justified YOUR PERSONAL VIEWS by cherry picking verses out of a book written by men thousands of years ago, but how dare a person be born a homosexual, even though there are verses to support people being gay in that same book ! you need to go back to bed your confused in the head again...
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Post by Roselyn T on Feb 23, 2016 0:15:19 GMT -5
So God didn't tell you personally ! Thanks @wally once again you have justified YOUR PERSONAL VIEWS by cherry picking verses out of a book written by men thousands of years ago, but how dare a person be born a homosexual, even though there are verses to support people being gay in that same book ! you need to go back to bed your confused in the head again... What you mean is you don't have an answer @wally !
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Post by Roselyn T on Feb 23, 2016 0:19:46 GMT -5
few(thankfully) believe that revisionist tripe but go ahead and believe in it if you want, God will judge us all on judgment day... Of course your interpretation on this (these verses) is the only right one @wally anything to make you feel you are justified in your views to pick and choose !
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2016 11:29:25 GMT -5
you need to go back to bed your confused in the head again... What you mean is you don't have an answer @wally ! I can't help it if you don't understand plain English...
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