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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2014 23:39:30 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2014 17:57:49 GMT -5
www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYtHXi5jHi4"When There's No One Around" (written by-Tim O'Brien, of course) This is a song that nobody knows I couldn't begin to describe how it goes But it makes me cry or laugh right out loud It's a song that I sing when there's no one around
This is the man that nobody sees He wears my old clothes and he looks just like me Just one of the boys who gets lost in the crowd He's the man that I am when there's no one around
It's four in the morning Im lyin' in bed A tape of my failures Playin' inside my head It's heartaches and hard knocks And things I don't know I listen and I wonder Where will it go
This is a glimpse of the child that's within He's so immature but he's still my best friend If he could learn how to fly he'd never touch down He's the kid that I am when there's no one around
This is the dance I do every day I let my feet go and get carried away I let my soul lead and follow the sound It's the dance that I do when there's no one around
It's four in the morning Im lyin' in bed A tape of my failures Playin' inside my head It's heartaches and hard knocks And things I don't know I listen and I wonder Where will it go
This is a song that nobody knows I still can't begin to describe how it goes But it makes me cry or laugh right out loud It's a song that I sing when there's no one around It's a song that I sing when there's no one around
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2014 0:12:12 GMT -5
Tim O'Brien is one of those musicians/songwriters who can really do anything...any style of music, any instrument. Anything from traditional bluegrass, gospel, blues, even honky tonk and does it well. Yet, he seems quite humble and decent about all that talent. Pretty cool stuff. www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFuUoKudZUIwww.youtube.com/watch?v=igdUPEHm5wk(remembering Doc Watson) fwiw-bop that takes me back to the days of my grandpa...good memories... .. . Was your grandpa a doc Watson fan. ??
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2014 0:19:57 GMT -5
probably...the most i remember though is the yodeling records he had he was a yodeler himself...kindest and most forgiving man i've ever met....
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2014 15:19:12 GMT -5
The Truth needs more unconditional love. No cliques. A meeting should be a support group.
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Post by truevine on Jul 8, 2015 22:30:01 GMT -5
I hope you don't mind me butting in to an already well-established conversation....I am new here and looking for others who are struggling with or have overcome some of the same issues I am facing. I still attend meetings, but have become very unhappy. I haven't ever felt like I fit in at our meeting that we have attended for the last few years. It isn't so much not feeling loved, but more that my beliefs and probably my personality just don't jive with most of the other people there. I think I am too much of an independent thinker. There is also an undertone of control that is often masked under the guise of being loving. It is depressing to feel so out of place...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2015 22:35:21 GMT -5
I hope you don't mind me butting in to an already well-established conversation....I am new here and looking for others who are struggling with or have overcome some of the same issues I am facing. I still attend meetings, but have become very unhappy. I haven't ever felt like I fit in at our meeting that we have attended for the last few years. It isn't so much not feeling loved, but more that my beliefs and probably my personality just don't jive with most of the other people there. I think I am too much of an independent thinker. There is also an undertone of control that is often masked under the guise of being loving. It is depressing to feel so out of place... from time to time people feel this way this is when you need to draw closer to God and pray earnestly for him to lead you in the right direction...
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Post by hberry on Jul 8, 2015 23:01:53 GMT -5
I hope you don't mind me butting in to an already well-established conversation....I am new here and looking for others who are struggling with or have overcome some of the same issues I am facing. I still attend meetings, but have become very unhappy. I haven't ever felt like I fit in at our meeting that we have attended for the last few years. It isn't so much not feeling loved, but more that my beliefs and probably my personality just don't jive with most of the other people there. I think I am too much of an independent thinker. There is also an undertone of control that is often masked under the guise of being loving. It is depressing to feel so out of place... I felt that way for some years. After much prayer, I felt like God opened up a door for me to leave and I'm now very happily in another church, enjoying the fellowship and clear teaching there. I'm not saying you need to leave, just relating my journey that started with a similar feeling.
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Post by withlove on Jul 8, 2015 23:48:28 GMT -5
I hope you don't mind me butting in to an already well-established conversation....I am new here and looking for others who are struggling with or have overcome some of the same issues I am facing. I still attend meetings, but have become very unhappy. I haven't ever felt like I fit in at our meeting that we have attended for the last few years. It isn't so much not feeling loved, but more that my beliefs and probably my personality just don't jive with most of the other people there. I think I am too much of an independent thinker. There is also an undertone of control that is often masked under the guise of being loving. It is depressing to feel so out of place... Welcome, truevine. I understand the feeling and have also witnessed how the tone of meetings can vary...as with any group really. Thinking can be considered anti-faith in some places/groups. It is harder in some ways to connect with the 15 people in the meeting whom you may have very little in common with as opposed to 15 people who gravitate towards each other in a bigger pool of a convention (or another church). We are supposed to overcome that with spiritual unity but like you say, having different beliefs can throw a wrench in that. And feeling like you are the different one can really be disturbing...the place where you are to feel safe and accepted and understood...isn't. Fellowship is a wonderful thing, but it isn't really fellowship in that case. Even if the others have only the best of intentions and care. I know the feeling of being anxious because what God has given me to speak I know will bother others...wishing He would give me something else...nothing else coming...having to say it...having fears confirmed. And also being bothered by others' prayers and testimonies. Realizing that the meeting is not a sanctuary for me, but more of an internal battle to overcome distress and loneliness and disappointment. The good part is that the less other people are helpful to us, the more we depend on God. But I don't think he wants us to be alone in our service. So you can feel like you are left with the options of staying where you are unhappy, joining a different church, or moving somewhere that has a meeting of people more on your wavelength. All are really big deals. I don't have any answers for you, just understanding and support. You aren't alone.
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Post by truevine on Jul 9, 2015 7:11:40 GMT -5
Wow, thanks for your replies.....all good insights. Withlove, you really hit the nail on the head with the part about changing meetings, going to a different church or moving...all being big deals. That is exactly where I am right now. I am very torn because It is hard to leave my family and the belief that this is the only right way, that I grew up being taught. The only way out that I see is making a life altering change. I am not sure that a move would really help that much....so I guess I feel that my only option is either put up with my situation or leave meeting. I wish it was an easier decision...
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Post by hberry on Jul 9, 2015 14:08:08 GMT -5
Wow, thanks for your replies.....all good insights. Withlove, you really hit the nail on the head with the part about changing meetings, going to a different church or moving...all being big deals. That is exactly where I am right now. I am very torn because It is hard to leave my family and the belief that this is the only right way, that I grew up being taught. The only way out that I see is making a life altering change. I am not sure that a move would really help that much....so I guess I feel that my only option is either put up with my situation or leave meeting. I wish it was an easier decision... You are right that it is a "big deal," especially if you have family in the fellowship. My Mom was the last relative we had in the fellowship, so that made our departure relatively easy. However, "relatively" easy doesn't mean there weren't bumps along the way. If your family is really dialed into the the 'only right way' thinking, which everyone I know in the fellowship is, that adds its own level of complexity to the decision. Speaking for myself only, I've been in meetings in several different places. I would suspect that your feeling of not fitting in wouldn't likely change, if the not fitting in feeling relates to how you understand scripture. However, if its just a feeling that the people you know don't have similar interests and that's why you don't fit in, that might be ameliorated by a move. But you'd need to visit those meetings first before you moved to make sure! It's a tough spot to be in.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2015 14:23:26 GMT -5
truevine, Sound like what my husband and I felt like in the meeting we were in after we move back to New England from the mid-west. For 6 years we felt we were part of a meeting that we did not fit into. After being in 13 different meeting over 38 years I suddenly felt, what am I apart of. It took 6 years of much pain and soul searching to finally be pushed out of meeting. I felt like my life had been turned up side down. The wonderful thing about it was I felt free of judgement, and that my service was to God and he was my judge not workers and friends.
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Post by truevine on Jul 9, 2015 22:10:10 GMT -5
Thanks everyone. Knowing that I am not alone really helps! I will keep praying until the answer comes...
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Post by withlove on Jul 9, 2015 23:00:44 GMT -5
Thanks everyone. Knowing that I am not alone really helps! I will keep praying until the answer comes... Maybe it could help to speak with Scott or Admin who could let you know of others in your area who have struggled (or are) too? I don't know. Or even post about how your beliefs are different...you could get feedback about whether your meeting is the norm or the exception? I don't want to over-step my bounds...you are welcome to lots of support and pm's! I am an ex but feel like people need to come to a decision to stay or leave with no pressure from people. It should be handled gently.
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