Two by Two, The Shape of a Shapeless Movement by Irvine Grey Jul 28, 2013 2:07:52 GMT -5
Post by Lee on Jul 28, 2013 2:07:52 GMT -5
"Just a very quick and brief response to your posting. I will try and get a fuller one to you. Why dangerous? Any movement that claims to be the sole medium of salvation and teaches that one can only profess through hearing the message from a worker is certainly dangerous. Couple that with the number of professing folk that I talked with, members and exes who on their own admission told me that their professing was simply acknowledging at the end of a mission or convention that they wanted to follow Jesus and join the meetings. When asked about repentance, a key constituent, in the plan of salvation they told me that this had never been mentioned to them. To me these folk are led into a false sense of eternal security and this is dangerous.
Its a stretch to describe a theologically-extinct group as being dangerous, for the world itself is dangerous. The F&W are a theologically extinct community, however, for the world knows that excellence can not strictly proceed from obedience to law, be it consisting of meeting attendance, dress codes, asymmetrical community identification, or proprietary interpretations of scripture. Society is eternally benefiting from the binocular perspective of Judaism which began with a righteousness that summoned us to rubric and law and finished with the righteous of God as it was exhibited in Christ.
Irvine Grey, 25 July 2013 : As to the sacrament, I was never privy to the event nor was anyone prepared to discuss its significance so therefore it would have been difficult to address the subject intelligently. As to using the hymnbook as a barometer of the movement’s beliefs and teachings, this was something I was not prepared to do since there was a mix of hymns by those that the movement would perceive as ‘hirelings’ and others by those in the movement. Even when I did ask why the change of word in When I survey the Wondrous Cross, I was unable to get an answer. In fairness I was unable to get clarity on many topics that I discussed with workers and current members , for example, on a simple definition of the Gospel."
The value of a society's sacraments can not exceed its ideals.