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Post by Rob O on Jul 7, 2006 10:28:30 GMT -5
Any good ideas for a topic on a thesis for a Masters in Biblical Studies? I would like to do something on the F&W, perhaps on their theology or maybe on their status as a cult/not a cult. Over the next month or two I need to look for a topic and I hoped you lot might have some viable ideas.
I have a couple of ideas but want to see what others can think up.
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Post by Gay on Jul 7, 2006 10:34:44 GMT -5
poor way to flaunt your superiority.
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Post by suggest on Jul 7, 2006 10:58:03 GMT -5
Write about the teachings of Jesus, esp. Mathew 5, sermon.
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Post by Rob on Jul 7, 2006 11:16:16 GMT -5
Any good ideas for a topic on a thesis for a Masters in Biblical Studies? I would like to do something on the F&W, perhaps on their theology or maybe on their status as a cult/not a cult. Over the next month or two I need to look for a topic and I hoped you lot might have some viable ideas. I have a couple of ideas but want to see what others can think up. I will email you the ideas I have. I find it difficult to believe the initial response you got to this request. Education is something people, at least some, fear. Facts and truth can be real enemies. good luck!
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Post by dork on Jul 7, 2006 12:11:34 GMT -5
Any good ideas for a topic on a thesis for a Masters in Biblical Studies? I would like to do something on the F&W, perhaps on their theology or maybe on their status as a cult/not a cult. Over the next month or two I need to look for a topic and I hoped you lot might have some viable ideas. I have a couple of ideas but want to see what others can think up. dude, you are a d0rk. first off, if this is geniune attempt for information (which i do believe its not) you need to come up with a better topic. out of all of the religous things to write about, basing it on a sect of christianity will not make anyones life better. secondly, its YOUR masters. so YOU come up the idea.. frig.. are you telling me you have made it through six years of college education and you learned the value of developing your own idea? sheesh. which makes me think this is nothing other then to puff yourself up. get a life
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Post by happy on Jul 7, 2006 12:38:23 GMT -5
Rob, I don't have an idea for you, but I'd love to read it when you have it completed. You know my email. How long do you have to prepare it? Happy
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Post by Gene on Jul 7, 2006 13:04:37 GMT -5
My, what vitriol you've stirred up, Rob!
Anyhoo, I've often thought the f&w group would make a fascinating topic for a thesis or perhaps even a dissertation. But (as you would expect from me) I was not thinking of the biblical studies aspect as much as I was the sociologic, anthropologic, and organizational aspects.
Friends & Workers, Saints & Sinners: Group Dynamics and Organizational Behavior in the Church Without a Name
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Post by timber on Jul 7, 2006 13:57:24 GMT -5
I too would be interested in anything that you write, Rob. I've always been interested in the tendency of F&W to interpret scripture literally or figuratively to fit closely held group beliefs sometimes to the point of departing from orthodox christianity. I'd like to see something written on that - or at least a part of the thesis..
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Post by Better Life on Jul 7, 2006 14:55:51 GMT -5
out of all of the religous things to write about, basing it on a sect of christianity will not make anyones life better. It could be a benefit for thse with closed minds to learn something about the group they are members of. On a wider scale - how many master's papers actually help make people's lives better? What was your master's paper about? How did it make people's lives better?
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Post by VP2T9E3 on Jul 7, 2006 15:07:44 GMT -5
out of all of the religous things to write about, basing it on a sect of christianity will not make anyones life better. It could be a benefit for thse with closed minds to learn something about the group they are members of. On a wider scale - how many master's papers actually help make people's lives better? What was your master's paper about? How did it make people's lives better? my masters thesis was a study into the loss of genetic diversity of the pacific northwest salmon due to fish hatheries. trends and future predictions. my masters thesis is a very small part of a large body of ongoing studies into decline of salmon and man's attempt to intervene. everyone contribution is one of education so the community can make informed decisions. that is the purpose of the thesis and research work. so your little suggestion wont work.. because teh friends wont read the thesis.. people who might read the thesis are those who study people and religious doctorine.. of which the 2x2s are nothing new.
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Post by Sounds good on Jul 7, 2006 15:42:36 GMT -5
my masters thesis was a study into the loss of genetic diversity of the pacific northwest salmon due to fish hatheries. trends and future predictions. Sounds like an literesting and useful body of work. There are other groups besides the f&w who might benefit. A quick search of the internet for "loss of genetic diversity of the pacific northwest salmon" shows that having multiple works written about a subject is not something new.
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Post by Another idea on Jul 7, 2006 16:45:08 GMT -5
my masters thesis was a study into the loss of genetic diversity of the pacific northwest salmon due to fish hatheries. trends and future predictions. A topic I believe would be interesting is... A study into the loss of genetic diversity of Truth's membership due to the doctrinal restrictions on marriage/mating outside the religious group.
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Post by a believer on Jul 7, 2006 16:56:06 GMT -5
There have been at least 2 people I know of who have done a mini thesis on the 2x2s. One was brought up in meetings and the other read a book on it in their university library and did theri research on it. In fact there is a third person, our friend, I forget her name who was on this message board last year send out hundreds of questionnaires to those here and further a field and did a major assignment on the group.
I planned to do a PhD on Christian cults and include the 2x2s in it but never got around to it.
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Post by junia on Jul 7, 2006 18:57:27 GMT -5
Rob,
You've certainly got my support.
The first idea I though of for your thesis, is the role of the 2x2 itinerant ministry. Since the idea/doctrine of the homeless 2x2 ministry is such a key plank supporting the existence of the 2x2 church, I'd love to see you put your skills to work.
Most of us have heard the 2 central doctrines, homeless ministry and meeting in the home, (that IMO contribute to, and in many minds justify the exclusivity problem), I can't think of a better subject to write your thesis on than these key doctrines.
Many 2x2s will only get their eyes opened when the foundation of their church is exposed.
Good luck and keep us posted!
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Post by Rob O on Jul 7, 2006 20:00:57 GMT -5
A general reply:
It is great when research is useful. Hence, I wish to pick a topic that others have wondered about as well, but don't necessarily have the tools or inclination to do the research themselves. I've thought of a number of great ideas, but.....it may be that someone else has an idea which I haven't thought of and is better than any of mine. Any topic I pick on the 2x2s will be useful for those within the group who have questions and are not close-minded, and it should be useful to those in the exit or healing processes. It will probably be of general interest to those who have been associated with the group.
But I don't feed trolls so I won't be directly replying to any of the juvenile trolls here.
To those of you with serious replies, thanks.
Happy, I have about two years. I'm expected to begin within three months and submit towards the end of the two years.
Gene, I hear you but my course is in Biblical studies and theology so my thesis will be prepared from that perspective in some sense. I can certainly see how your suggestions could be tied in though.
Timber, Junia and sensible anonymous posters...thanks.
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Post by Sylvestra on Jul 7, 2006 20:38:26 GMT -5
Dear Rob,
I agree with one poster who wondered why you'd write on the F & W. There is so much more to be learned and shared with others on much more substantial areas!!!!
How about something like "The Problem with Evil" (possible subtitle - "The difference between evil and sin"?
Or "The Difference Between Soul and Spirit" (possible subtitle - which come first and which is in the submissive position at various levels of spiritual development).
Or "The Difference Between Salvation and Reward" and how the two are seen in types and shadows in Scripture.
Really, so much more edifying subjects than the F & W!!
Best of luck with the project!
Edy
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Post by timber on Jul 7, 2006 20:39:45 GMT -5
Rob: Maybe you should consider one of the many subjects that you and Clay debate about. What was one of the latest ones? Molinism? Did I get that right?
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Post by prayhard on Jul 7, 2006 21:28:07 GMT -5
ROB - GO FOR IT!!!!! WRITE THAT THESIS. IT WILL OPEN YOUR EYES. The research will train your brain and the information will make you expand your intellect. I liked Gene's title. (you may want to reverse the saints and sinners to 'sinners and saints,' though...haha)
My Thesis proposal kicked my booty and made me grow!!!! Never will you regret opening the door to know more. Education is great and, who knows?....... maybe you will help others in this way.
Never spurn education.
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Post by do on Jul 7, 2006 23:03:15 GMT -5
ROB - GO FOR IT!!!!! WRITE THAT THESIS. IT WILL OPEN YOUR EYES. The research will train your brain and the information will make you expand your intellect. I liked Gene's title. (you may want to reverse the saints and sinners to 'sinners and saints,' though...haha) My Thesis proposal kicked my booty and made me grow!!!! Never will you regret opening the door to know more. Education is great and, who knows?....... maybe you will help others in this way. Never spurn education. do you want your education from rob or God
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Post by prue on Jul 8, 2006 3:56:39 GMT -5
rob - our web site detailing the nature of the first church should be a big help - it will provide the absolutely necessary context for what we believe - thanks prue
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Post by jxr on Jul 8, 2006 6:09:03 GMT -5
rob - our web site detailing the nature of the first church should be a big help - it will provide the absolutely necessary context for what we believe - thanks prue ROFLMFAO
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Post by Jesus does His Master too on Jul 8, 2006 7:30:05 GMT -5
Maybe Robert is God? Even Jesus didn't do a Master in Biblical Studies. Imagine how more tolerant of other religions Jesus might have been. Jesus might have even solved the problems of the world, just like many Masters of Biblical Studies are trying to do today. Haha
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Post by Personal Experience on Jul 8, 2006 8:03:55 GMT -5
do you want your education from rob or God When it comes right down to it, I have learned much more from Rob than from God. Post here and Rob answers. Ask God a direct question and see what happens.
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Post by Knowledge on Jul 8, 2006 8:05:48 GMT -5
Maybe Robert is God? Even Jesus didn't do a Master in Biblical Studies. Imagine how more tolerant of other religions Jesus might have been. Jesus might have even solved the problems of the world, just like many Masters of Biblical Studies are trying to do today. Haha Guessing you do not know a lot about Jewish education and what young male Jews were taught - even Jesus.
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Post by prayhard on Jul 8, 2006 14:40:17 GMT -5
Jesus was the GREATEST teacher of all!
He educated and was even called a "teacher."
Folks, Rob is not playing God. For pete's sake - he is simply researching materials that are already provided and creating a "map," so-to-speak, of these resources, with his observations for others to read about. All a Master's thesis is, is regurgitated information formed into another resource, much like the history of the world and the science in it. It's a compound effect.
If you ever went to college or attempted a masters program you would have the understanding. It is HARD WORK.
Don't be so critical. He's trying to grow, as we all should.
Praise God for the brain he gave us to "think" and to use for "logic."
*what do you think Paul did in Acts and Romans? HE TAUGHT from the tools God gave him. He was a teacher, a thinker, and a scholar in his own right. He must have done well, because we are still reading his works.........
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Post by MAYBE on Jul 8, 2006 20:17:18 GMT -5
do you want your education from rob or God When it comes right down to it, I have learned much more from Rob than from God. Post here and Rob answers. Ask God a direct question and see what happens. Maybe God don't know you then
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Post by To Rob on Jul 8, 2006 20:46:47 GMT -5
I like the suggested topic however worded a little differently.. ..possibly... The effect of Group dynamics and Organizational Control in the church ...etc.
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Post by studylearning on Jul 8, 2006 20:50:45 GMT -5
The Sociological and Theological Nature of Judgment, Gods or Mans
This would cover many areas to include legalisms false or correct and the many forms of fellowship which evolve around these issues.
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