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Post by jwbdurston on Nov 29, 2008 21:52:26 GMT -5
jwbdurston, Are you saying that ufo's are the chariots of bible times?? could you clarify your statement please Could well be......the fiery chariot that came to get Elijah and the vision of the wheels that Ezekiel had. If we saw those things now might well say they were something in the air that we could not oficialy identify thus UFO (uniden fly obj) Millions of people world wide have seen UFO's.....absolute fact...no doubt about it........including my wife and I..........I believe many of the UFO's are of demonic origin........the fallen angels that is or the nephlim.........I believe in part 'government secret organisations' I also am convinced that God has "so called flying objects"........totaly divine in design.........dont forget that satan can only try and mimic God at best in a very almost insignificant area with tight parameters set by a sovereign God.........
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Post by shushy on Nov 29, 2008 23:47:42 GMT -5
Could well be......the fiery chariot that came to get Elijah and the vision of the wheels that Ezekiel had.
If we saw those things now might well say they were something in the air that we could not oficialy identify thus UFO (uniden fly obj)
I think the fiery chariot that picked up Elijah and the firey chariots of God the Lord himself rides and watches the nations possibly are similar. The wheels in EzeKiels vision sound separate and distinct. Both these Holy.
Millions of people world wide have seen UFO's.....absolute fact...no doubt about it........including my wife and I..........I believe many of the UFO's are of demonic origin........the fallen angels that is or the nephlim.........I believe in part 'government secret organisations' I also am convinced that God has "so called flying objects"........totaly divine in design.........dont forget that satan can only try and mimic God at best in a very almost insignificant area with tight parameters set by a sovereign God........
Yes, I can accept that Nephilim could be aliens/fallen angels and demonic. Whatever we 'see' is subject to judgement.
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Post by jwbdurston on Nov 30, 2008 1:55:43 GMT -5
Yea...I kind of agree with you. What I would say (I take it for granted that you yourself have not seen a ufo based on what you say) is that people know a ufo when it is a ufo.......Usualy that is (in some skies cloud formation and other weather conditions have been known to trick the eye and there have been quite afew incidents of mistaken identity. Haveing said that we are talking a very small percenrage here. The fact is that people know what an airplane looks like, they know what a weather balloon looks like and so on, we are programmed, if you like, from a very early age to identify the norm. When people see peculiar lightes flashing around in an inexplainable way, when people see things zoom at incredible speeds and change at the same speed say 90 degrees it is something else. If you want I can give you the details of what my wife and I saw........and haveing checked other sources is identicly the same.....
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Post by ilylo on Nov 30, 2008 1:57:52 GMT -5
I hope this thread never dies. The entertainment value is worth twice the ticket price!
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Post by jwbdurston on Nov 30, 2008 3:06:10 GMT -5
yes Ratilylo ................its like two faces of you both
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2008 5:19:08 GMT -5
James - still no word from Mr Legge ...... or his lawyer?
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Post by shushy on Nov 30, 2008 6:19:50 GMT -5
It was early evening sun was going down and we sat on the beach eating fish and chips..from the left a bright flashing light [simialr to aircraft] appeared and leap towards in front of us above the bay, I thought it was a helicpoter at first. THen I said to my hubby look what is that? the light disappeared and then a moment later flashed to our right. All we saw was the flashing light and it continued to leap and flash across and away from us heading south east. No idea what it was if it had been a plane we should have been able to see the shape of it. It was only about 500mtres off shore, that was about 10yrs ago.
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Post by Geoff on Nov 30, 2008 7:21:06 GMT -5
An unidentified flying object, by definition is unidentified. If you knwo what it is, then its not a UFO, its identified.
My father was a chronic practical joker. (I inherited some of that), and UFOs were among his tricks. He had many people beleiving all manner of things they thought they'd seen and heard.
One of the longest lasting jokes was a loud recording of a train, played from a hilltop in a place where there was no railway line let alone a train. At the same time for several nights, he played this loud recording, and it was sensational news. So many people were convinced that there was some evil train, or a ghost train etc.
What we think we see, hear, etc often isn't anything like what we think it is. Over 90% of UFO reports are later identified as quite normal events misinterpreted. The rest remain unidentified. Anyone who thinks they know what they are either makes no longer unidentified, or they're wrong.
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Post by Gene on Nov 30, 2008 9:03:35 GMT -5
It was early evening sun was going down and we sat on the beach eating fish and chips..from the left a bright flashing light [simialr to aircraft] appeared and leap towards in front of us above the bay, I thought it was a helicpoter at first. THen I said to my hubby look what is that? the light disappeared and then a moment later flashed to our right. All we saw was the flashing light and it continued to leap and flash across and away from us heading south east. No idea what it was if it had been a plane we should have been able to see the shape of it. It was only about 500mtres off shore, that was about 10yrs ago. Mmmmmm..... fish and chips.... that makes me hungry. Haven't had good fish and chips for a couple of months - since the last time I was in London...
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Post by shushy on Nov 30, 2008 17:33:25 GMT -5
Yes, you can smell the shop from miles away there. Due to the vinegar I think.
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Post by jwbdurston on Dec 1, 2008 0:16:56 GMT -5
James - still no word from Mr Legge ...... or his lawyer? matt 10, verse 18: "You will be brought before governors and kings for My sake, as a testimony to them"
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Post by jwbdurston on Dec 1, 2008 0:17:59 GMT -5
shushy: sudenly you are not that convincing! I sugest some smelling salts over the vinegar.
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Post by izzi on Dec 1, 2008 8:31:39 GMT -5
Gene, if you're ever in South Africa, there's a little canteen in Sandy Point Harbour near St Helena Bay...fish and chips to drool over. My brother and I took part in a yacht race to Sandy Point, and somehow, sitting in the sun eating that very cheap, very delicious meal on the deck of a Holiday 23, is surely a foretaste of heaven?
Shushy, a few of us in my family saw unidentified objects in the sky, including my mother, who was a professing lady, very down-to-earth and feet-on-the-ground. The lights you describe I saw as well, but they were very high. Impossible to be an aeroplane - the movement was too fast.
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Post by Gene on Dec 1, 2008 14:11:43 GMT -5
Gene, if you're ever in South Africa, there's a little canteen in Sandy Point Harbour near St Helena Bay...fish and chips to drool over. My brother and I took part in a yacht race to Sandy Point, and somehow, sitting in the sun eating that very cheap, very delicious meal on the deck of a Holiday 23, is surely a foretaste of heaven? Shushy, a few of us in my family saw unidentified objects in the sky, including my mother, who was a professing lady, very down-to-earth and feet-on-the-ground. The lights you describe I saw as well, but they were very high. Impossible to be an aeroplane - the movement was too fast. I'm confused. You saw unidentified objects in the sky, but identified one of them closely enough to recognize it was your mother? And she was both in the sky and down to earth feet on the ground at the same time? Life is a wondrous albeit confusing thing, indeed. And I'll look you up next time I'm in Sandy Point Harbour.
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Post by eyedeetentee on Dec 1, 2008 14:21:04 GMT -5
Yacht race?!? In Africa?!? Where do people find all this money??
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Post by shushy on Dec 1, 2008 18:03:47 GMT -5
I dont need to convince any one of nusink James...Im really busy
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Post by shushy on Dec 1, 2008 18:05:16 GMT -5
LOL eyedeedentee.........its in your pocket and under your mattress and in the floor boards and the garden
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Post by jwbdurston on Dec 1, 2008 19:20:06 GMT -5
Venice flooded by highest water levels in 22 yrs December 2, 2008 - 7:41AM Source: ABC Water, water everywhere: A gondola floats past pedestrians as they wade through floodwaters in Venice Photo: Reuters Heavy rains and high winds left Venice almost completely flooded on Monday after surrounding sea levels rose to their highest in 22 years.
Ferry and water taxi services in the lagoon city were suspended and the mayor urged people to stay indoors. Tourists and residents waded across streets and popular sites like St Mark's Square in thigh-high water.
Chairs of outdoor cafes could be seen almost fully submerged, while some luxury stores were also flooded.
Officials said more than 99 per cent of the city was under water and that sea levels in the Adriatic rose 1.56 metres - a level not seen since 1986. It was the fourth-highest level recorded over the past century.
"These are exceptionally high waters," Venice's Mayor Massimo Cacciari was quoted as saying by the Ansa news agency. "Don't venture out unless it is necessary."
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2008 19:28:00 GMT -5
Ah, so Planet X is "VENICE !"
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Post by jwbdurston on Dec 1, 2008 20:42:10 GMT -5
ram...considering your comments and that of your friend geoff...,well to save space I am going to put youtogether, like ilylo and rational.............I think ramjett will be the way to go.
I hope this helps us all.
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Post by ilylo on Dec 1, 2008 21:09:54 GMT -5
...beginning with yourself, of course.
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Post by jwbdurston on Dec 2, 2008 0:36:16 GMT -5
..absolutely ratilylo.....I find this the most sensible way forward and trust you will grin and bear it.
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Post by Geoff on Dec 2, 2008 3:58:07 GMT -5
Perhaps thje biggest GRINS we all get is when you post something James. Its the most entertaining tripe on the board.
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Post by jwbdurston on Dec 2, 2008 4:46:00 GMT -5
Well ramjett, talking about posts I have noticed you've earned yourself another star, keep it up and you will end up with a medalled chest like scott!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2008 4:50:38 GMT -5
Jimmy, I appreciate your efforts for convenience. We all have to prioritize our time.
By the way, I'm still waiting on my answer about the pilot whales washed up on Taz !
Was this Planet X ?
Were they washed up anywhere near your safe high ground ?
Thanks.
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Post by izzi on Dec 2, 2008 7:33:01 GMT -5
gene, glad you had fun with my clumsy syntax. My mother saw the funny thing in the sky. I didn't see her there. Miss her, though - she was one amazing woman. I was thinking about her yesterday - she wouldn't have touched a message board like this with a barge pole. She was one of kindest people on earth, merciful. Her love guided me. And hey, I am not rich. I don't live in Sandy Point. I live in Durban.
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Post by Dubious Disciple (xdc) on Dec 2, 2008 13:18:15 GMT -5
..absolutely ratilylo.....I find this the most sensible way forward and trust you will grin and bear it. is ratilylo a combination of rational and ilylo? How could any two people be more different?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2008 15:03:13 GMT -5
Jimmy, any sightings of the Taz Tiger of late ? Is it really extinct, or is it just a case there are none of them left ?
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