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Post by jwbdurston on Nov 19, 2008 5:00:02 GMT -5
oh ram..yes I did say that didnt I. I meant feet. Rational you are a liar about God telling you that. Also it shows a lot about you when you spell God with a small g .............shame on you!. Well I have done my bit and I think I will call it a day. Obviously this stuff is not for you guys.
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Post by jwbdurston on Nov 19, 2008 5:05:08 GMT -5
Just one more thing about this planet comeing in. Its comeing from up under the south pole and this is why people cannot see it apart from those that have strategicly placed telescopes like the elite. Check it out for yourself and yes when the pole shift occurs the earth will be like a drunkard. Think about it, do your research and you can only come up with one answer, its actually perfectly logical. The governments know about this. Why do you think they have moved their important bases to higher and inland ground. When are you guys going to bloody wake up!
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Post by jwbdurston on Nov 19, 2008 5:07:40 GMT -5
James, Wacky does not begin to describe your comments in this thread. Good luck surviving an planetary ELE at 1200 feet.When this stuff happens,........well I just cant imagine what your face will look like......
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Post by jwbdurston on Nov 19, 2008 18:21:19 GMT -5
Just one more thing about this planet comeing in. Its comeing from up under the south pole and this is why people cannot see it apart from those that have strategicly placed telescopes like the elite. Check it out for yourself and yes when the pole shift occurs the earth will be like a drunkard. Think about it, do your research and you can only come up with one answer, its actually perfectly logical. The governments know about this. Why do you think they have moved their important bases to higher and inland ground. When are you guys going to bloody wake up!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2008 18:26:35 GMT -5
JWD - Forget shifting poles and drunken earths - any word yet from Mr Legge's lawyer? Matt10
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Post by ilylo on Nov 19, 2008 19:05:05 GMT -5
James, Wacky does not begin to describe your comments in this thread. Good luck surviving an planetary ELE at 1200 feet.When this stuff happens,........well I just cant imagine what your face will look like...... When what happens, James? Tell me something. How many conspiracy theory websites do you visit every day?
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Post by Sharon on Nov 19, 2008 20:13:18 GMT -5
No that information about planet x is totaly incorrect rational. California will take damage at least 100 miles inland. ...but hey you are right about me doing my geography...and hey I know to you guys I sound nuts but its true its about to happen, there is so much evidence and I just know that I know that I know. I can tell you now that a friend of mine and myself have just purchased 40 acres of land 700 metres high at the base of a mountain wich is 1200 feet high. I can tell you now as the Lord God is my witness that the Lord showed my friend and I to do this. Over the world there are people unconnected saying the same things. The information immediately supplied is from someone called John JR Moore. He is a decorated veteran of Vietnam, 57 combat missions. Started his career in intelligence analysis US military intelligence back in 1967. Has been in US army special forces. Since 1973 Homicide detective, private detective, talk show host. Maintains very close relationships with intelligence and has access that few do. Hey guys did you find out about that location I was talking about? Really appreciate if you could mention it. You must have heard of it. jwdurston...that'd be the Missouri-Arkansas Ozark Mountains....mostly in the west third of both states, just about 3 hrs. drive west of the great Mississippi! They are not exceedingly tall mountains, but they are very "inland"! Although just east of them has been earthquake tremors of about 2.5 on the Rictor scale...not a comfortable feeling to be so close to that....the Mississippi is most apt to "widen" and "deepen" some day in the future because of the faults in the rock bed east of the Missouri-Arkansas Ozarks. Can't say just how safe the moutains might be for the earthquake that rips the US in half is apt to cause volcanic mountains to arise....just one of those natural phenomenons.
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Post by Geoff on Nov 20, 2008 4:28:00 GMT -5
"Its comeing from up under the south pole and this is why people cannot see it apart from those that have strategicly placed telescopes like the elite."
There's a problem of fact with this statement. A planet approaching the earth cannot come from UNDER the south pole. This would mean coming from beneath the surface of the earth. The south pole is not at the "bottom" of the earth. Words such as bottom, above, under, down, up, top etc only have meaning with a reference point. Approaching the earth from space, there's no reason to see the north pole as the "top". Its just a spinning spheroid, spinning on an axis that close to, (but not) at the poles. (neither the magnetic nor the geographic poles).
Its also not true to say that telescopes cannot see that portion of space that lies in line with the spin axis out from that place we call the south pole. It is true that there is a smaller population in the southern hemisphere than the northern, and as a result fewer people can see this portion of space. Its not true to say that individual wealth has any bearing on ability to see this portion of space (The "elite").
It is a fact that there are more institutional telescopes in the southern hemisphere per population than the northern.
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Post by twitch on Nov 20, 2008 9:01:26 GMT -5
Interesting, Siddhartha If people are genuinely buying land in Wales then they must feel a real emergency is afoot....... or they have contracted a brain-affecting virus.
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Post by alia on Nov 20, 2008 10:16:27 GMT -5
I just googled Planet x and from the little I read, at first glance it looked like you will need a lot more than just moving to higher ground to save you. I had never heard of this. PlanetX..just the 2012 stuff.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2008 10:29:00 GMT -5
James,
As long as Harrison Ford stays alive we will be Okay. Luke Skywalker took care of the last Death Star quite adequately a few years back.
Anyway, regarding Mr. Legge's lawyer. Any word yet ?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2008 15:14:33 GMT -5
Maintains very close relationships with intelligence and has access that few do. JWD - Having just read the many responses to your post am I safe in assumming you are one of those who do not have access to intelligence? Matt10
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Post by ronhall on Nov 20, 2008 16:15:10 GMT -5
Guess that after sixty-six pages of discussing this it has degenerated to something about a close relationship with intelligence and access.
Yes, we can have a close relationship with our heavenly father who has an intelligence that we cannot ever comprehend and can access God, the father, through His son, Jesus.
There is nothing even resembling a cult in this, so the answer is; it is not a cult, but a heavenly fellowship.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2008 18:02:39 GMT -5
Ron, look up your dictionary for the definition (general) of a cult. It covers all religious sects.
You may be lucky, but since the early days (100+ years ago) there has been much erroneous preaching and teaching which has had adverse cultic influences affecting many honest souls because of their compliant, sensitive, and deferrent natures, resulting in a good many screwed up lives.
That's real truth and real experience.
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Post by White Knight on Nov 20, 2008 21:12:02 GMT -5
Anyone with an inkling of inclination would know the difference between a cult and downright right or wrong, transparency or corruption which leads to cover ups. It seems to me and according to statistics the more educated one becomes the easier it is to become entrapped, engulfed or simply taken. While the greed of some feed on there prey this way, other’s us the fear tactics. Fear is used subtly and or on many other levels. Thusly or therefore it is harder and harder to distinguish between Good Fear and the Evil Fear.
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Post by jwbdurston on Nov 21, 2008 3:21:44 GMT -5
ROFL!!!! You are a nutcase. Where do you get this material? It's great. You should take this show on the road and do a one-man act in conspiracy theories. Arkansas is NOWHERE near being high in elevation. If I wanted to move to higher ground in the USA, then it's western Colorado for me. By all means, you go to Arkansas. Say hi to Sam Walton's grave for me. He has a lot of my money. Well you and learnaboutgrace thought it was quite funny and of course once again it is, the egg is on your plastic face that is. You realised in fact that there is such a place but did not care to mention that you may have jumped the gun a bit, instead just carried on attacking. The fact is it does not matter what evidence I put forward, even when I inform you that Us has moved all its important bases inland and why this is so, you don’t address it in a constructive way. It does not matter what evidence there is or how compelling, you will live in denial. Don’t get me wrong, I am not against you and don’t have a problem with anything you say. In fact it is very understandable the way you react even though it’s immature. I can’t tell most of the people I know or even my parents, they just are unable to receive such controversial (if that’s what you can call it) information. It goes against everything we have been ‘programmed’ to believe! Siwells: Really appreciated your info on the location and the other info you cared to include. Your information actually ties in with this: This is what the Us Navy said: this will be the new shore line. Everything to the Rocky Mountains east will go…will take damage up to the Blue Ridge Parkway. USA classified briefings told these men what would be happening in the future. Bottom RHS of Texas gone, LA, MS, bottom 2 thirds Al, bottom half GA, RH side SC and NC and VA and all the way up too ME will be gone under! Far Right hand side AR and Far Right hand side of MO as IA and MN, two thirds of IL will be gone under!! Wisconsin completely Gone and left hand side of MI GONE!! In fact up here will be one vast piece of water going all the way down to where hurricane Katrina was and was re-visited and will again. West coast top to bottom at least 100 miles inland, much more in WA and OR. Geoff: I am giving a general picture, don’t cross the T’s and dot the I’s please. You are incorrect about a rouge planet coming from a direction that will be mostly hidden (until its right upon us—or almost) from the South Pole. At present there are fewer powerful telescopes to pick this planet up. Lalalalala Siddhartha: Another good person to have aboard! Its interesting for me that you mention Canary Warf. I actually worked on the tallest building there that you are referring to, say back 20 years ago. Its 54 floors high and is still officially known as Building DS7. At the time I worked for ‘Otis lifts and elevators’. By today’s standard it wouldn’t be much of a sky scraper. Once again your information is the same as what the governments know and people like ourselves. Alia: Yes you would be correct saying that. There are other things to consider which if there is enough serious interest I will go into.
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Post by rational on Nov 21, 2008 7:46:43 GMT -5
The fact is it does not matter what evidence I put forward, even when I inform you that Us has moved all its important bases inland and why this is so, you don’t address it in a constructive way. But Jimmy, you have presented no evidence. Just hearsay and second hand blather. Show us the evidence. And here is where your story really falls apart: This would include the entire East coast of the US. This is moot since you have just stated that everything east of the Rocky Mountains is gone. You do understand this would include Arkansas as well. You do realize that some of the area you are claiming will be flooded is 4-5,000 feet above mean sea level. Have you even bothered to look at the elevation of the areas you are talking about? Again, have you even looked at the land mass you are talking about? In other words do not try to make too much sense over this because there are no details. It is sad that you think there are no observations being made from the southern part of the globe. Work it out - an observatory south of the equator looks at the sky in the direction of the South Pole. Incoming objects cannot hide. And you think that these buildings will just stand like islands? Now I know you are kidding. You are talking about global flooding and the solution is to issue life jackets? Get people to take swimming lessons??? Next you will be telling us that they are teaching people to hold their breath for a really long time. Or encouraging people to grow gills!
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Post by ilylo on Nov 21, 2008 8:42:14 GMT -5
Well you and learnaboutgrace thought it was quite funny and of course once again it is, the egg is on your plastic face that is. I doubt that. I live in the real world where facts are paramount. I'm not sure what world you occupy, or how much conspiracy theory glue you've been sniffing. You realised in fact that there is such a place but did not care to mention that you may have jumped the gun a bit, instead just carried on attacking. Did not care to mention what, that Arkansas is a place? What does that have to do with anything? The fact is it does not matter what evidence I put forward, The fact is that you have put forward no evidence. even when I inform you that Us has moved all its important bases inland and why this is so, you don’t address it in a constructive way. Let's get down to brass tacks (no pun intended). Which bases were "moved"? Please be specific. It does not matter what evidence there is or how compelling, you will live in denial. Oh, so this is your reason for not providing any evidence. How convenient for you. ...sniff, sniff.No problem. You achieved that on your own. I am not against you and don’t have a problem with anything you say. Wonderful! Kumbaya! In fact it is very understandable the way you react even though it’s immature. Of course... the Landless Doctrine. I can’t tell most of the people I know or even my parents, they just are unable to receive such controversial (if that’s what you can call it) information. Because they think you're a nutcase. It goes against everything we have been ‘programmed’ to believe! Science fiction tends to do that.
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Post by rational on Nov 21, 2008 10:00:35 GMT -5
The fact is it does not matter what evidence I put forward, even when I inform you that Us has moved all its important bases inland and why this is so, you don’t address it in a constructive way. I think Ilylo had a good idea. Let's focus on a single point at a time. The US has moved all of its important bases inland.1) Name a base that was moved inland. Do you consider these bases to be important? Marine Corps Base Camp Pendleton - CA coast Marine Corps Base Quantico - Eastern US coast Marine Corps Base Camp Lejeune (part of this base was relocated - to Chesapeake, Virginia - hardly inland) Navy bases really need to be near the water. I guess they do not care if they are flooded. I looked at air force bases. Virginia. 5 in Florida. None moving. You will need to get some data.
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Post by Sharon on Nov 21, 2008 11:38:51 GMT -5
"Bottom RHS of Texas gone, LA, MS, bottom 2 thirds Al, bottom half GA, RH side SC and NC and VA and all the way up too ME will be gone under! Far Right hand side AR and Far Right hand side of MO as IA and MN, two thirds of IL will be gone under!! Wisconsin completely Gone and left hand side of MI GONE!! In fact up here will be one vast piece of water going all the way down to where hurricane Katrina was and was re-visited and will again. West coast top to bottom at least 100 miles inland, much more in WA and OR."
jwdurston! I have to wonder if some of this has not already happened to some degree? And thus has ended part of the prophecy or guesstimation of some. A few years before Katrina, eastern Mo. and Ark has horrendous flooding. Again last year some of the Mo. towns near the great Mississippi River flooded again before recouping their previous flood losses. Acres and acres of fertile river bottom land was silted over with sand and river silch. Same thing in Ohio and Ill. last year I think....and La., Ms. and eastern lower Tex. keep getting visited by hurricanes and flooding.....many people have not gone back to those areas to rebuild their lives there. They have moved farther inland, flood insurance is at an all time high right now in the good old USA! As to moving bases inland? That hasn't happened really, but perhaps has been reversed....they closed the large base in NW AR. except for using it for maneuvers, etc. Fact is they sold a lot of it to the two towns bordering it and that land is being eaten up with city progress very fast up until the mortage failures became a fact! Now with the large amount of employee layoffs in the industrial areas now and more business layoffs to come after the holiday shopping is over.....this area soon will be a ghost town.....the biggest town is nearly 200,000.... I firmly believe that there will be a great shifting of land masses before the day of Jesus return, all part and parcel of God preparing a fit earthly kingdom for His Son to reign upon. I think the areas such as New Orleans that's been a den of iniquity for hundreds of years are most apt to suffer greater changes then the hurricanes have wrought upon them so far! I'm not saying anything about judging any individuals per se....but the activities that lure people away from seeking their God and His Will for their lives! My heartfelt prayers go out for these people in devastated areas. But I have to think that these military bases that harbor their logistical areas near the coastline are on to something though! And perhaps we as citizens should be glad of that for that means our coastlands are pretty much under close surveillance for the enemy approaching via water or border lands!
It would seem more feasible to me, that if earthquakes rip the US in half that the flooding could possibly reach the Blue Ridge Mountainway, but not necessarily destroy the eastern US! But the Mississippi River Valley can easily be flooded and has been to some extent when you add the upper US river flow to it also.....I'm not sure that Minnesota would suffer a great flood without the great lakes being involved and if that happens then we're looking at flooding reaching clear to the eastern coast because of the great inlet of ocean to the great lakes...thus perhaps secluding the US from Canada, but one has to think some of the northern parts of the US would stay attached to Canada though other parts would be flooded! It's all in a guesstimation thing, but it's real for Mo/AR because of the unstable rock beds just bare miles west of the Mississippi River.
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Post by Gene on Nov 21, 2008 13:22:35 GMT -5
In Switzerland there is an active migration of centers of business and population to the higher altitudes in the Alps. In fact, just last week the Bundesrat moved their private meeting facilities from Bern to Zermatt.
Most of the news reports simply state the new location as "Zermatt", but it is commonly known among the locals that they actually located their facilities at the peak of the Matterhorn, just outside of Zermatt. It is rumored that, due to the difficulty in ascending the Matterhorn during times of flooding, Rega (the Swiss lifeflight helicopter system) has airlifted to the top of the Matterhorn a 10-year supply of Raclette and Fondue cheese, as well as a vast store of chocolate and Schlagger-Musik CDs, so that the Bundesrat can survive independently on the peak for a prolonged period.
Furthermore, all tail-docking stations in the Alps have been provisioned with a 5-year supply of hay for the horses, sheep, und so weiter that come their way for tail docking over the next several years.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2008 14:24:17 GMT -5
All RAF bases in the UK, which are located mainly on low-lying, coastal regions on the east of the country are having large sections of runway elevated to a height of 200 feet, effectively turning them into "stone aircraft carriers."
Similarly, the naval dockyards along the south coast of England are having their docks gradually raised on a gradient system to accomadate rising sea levels over a period of time. The submarine docking (not tail docking, although subs have tails !) facilities are undergoing modification to their pressurisation tanks to accomodate increased pressurisation due to deeper water in the future.
Farmer George Smith in Cheshire has calculated he will need to re-plant his orchard at a level of 35' higher than it is at present. The land he owns is not sufficiently high enough so he is importing vast quantities of top soil to raise a field to the required level. Once completed he will re-plant his orchard and relocate his waste paper re-cycling bins.
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Post by eyedeetentee on Nov 21, 2008 14:32:10 GMT -5
You people have the theory all wrong. They are not moving the bases and installations to higher ground because of future high water; they are relocating them to make the earth more stable in its rotation. One reason the earth is experiencing global warming is because the axis is tilting. The earth will soon be wobbling out of control and the gravitational pull will be in only one certain area (the Company has not given me permission to tell you the location at this time). To alleviate the wobble, the powers that be are relocating major installations. They believe this action will cause the earth to straighten up, fly right, and balance itself.
You mentioned base repositioning but you did not mention Area 51. I am surprised! All theorists know that Area 51 was moved to Australia . . . . don't they? It is fact, though, not theory. It was moved for several published reasons, but the unpublished reasons have nothing to do with 'come hell and/or high water'. They moved it to an area in Australia that is relatively unpopulated. Unpopulated areas in the US are few due to all the immigration, excessive sex drives, and anti-abortionists. The Christian US needs to implement ALL the laws of the bible including stoning their children to death when they misbehave so we can move Area 51 back to its proper place, the US (undisclosed [but known] location). However, that move may throw the earth off-kilter even more. Maybe they better leave it in Australia . . . but they still need to implement child stoning.
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Post by Geoff on Nov 21, 2008 14:35:17 GMT -5
You are incorrect about a rouge planet coming from a direction that will be mostly hidden (until its right upon us—or almost) from the South Pole. Oh, what did I say that was incorrect? You didn't make very clear what my error was.
At present there are fewer powerful telescopes to pick this planet up. Fewer than what? You statement is meaningless without reference to some comparator.
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Post by Gene on Nov 21, 2008 15:13:36 GMT -5
You are incorrect about a rouge planet coming from a direction that will be mostly hidden (until its right upon us—or almost) from the South Pole. Oh, what did I say that was incorrect? You didn't make very clear what my error was.
At present there are fewer powerful telescopes to pick this planet up.Fewer than what? You statement is meaningless without reference to some comparator. Is this, like, some kind of newspeak or something: "Rouge Planet?" I assume you are talking about Mars. Als ich ein Kinder war, we called it the "Red Planet." Yes, I am aware that "Rouge" is some hifalutin french term for "red", but i would just as soon we not bow to the left-wing liberal socialists who are trying to turn us into a nation of 35-hour work week, 6 week annual holidays, sissy-boy frenchies. It's still the RED planet, dadgummit, and I say that with a fist full of freedom-fries held high!
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Post by ronhall on Nov 21, 2008 15:36:34 GMT -5
Ron, look up your dictionary for the definition (general) of a cult. It covers all religious sects. You may be lucky, but since the early days (100+ years ago) there has been much erroneous preaching and teaching which has had adverse cultic influences affecting many honest souls because of their compliant, sensitive, and deferrent natures, resulting in a good many screwed up lives. That's real truth and real experience. Ram, if your dictionary paints with such a wide brush, I'd consider it a good candidate for the trash can. :>) Better yet, keep it and just take a "black magic marker" and obliterate the part that part of your dictionary not fit for human consumption similar to what my grandma used to do with romance novels she read, then passed on to others! :>) :>) For me, I can't say I'm lucky. Fortunate, yes. I was fortunate to have enough interest to balance what was being preached with what was actually stated in the Bible to be able to determine what was actually scriptural and what was the opinion of the speaker. It's not that the opinion of the speaker is always wrong. In fact, it may be the best for the time; but maybe not the best for all time. To know what is the best for all time, one needs to get back to the basics of Jesus teaching.
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Post by ilylo on Nov 21, 2008 15:51:32 GMT -5
Anyone else notice that the USA is the only country that has moved its bases inland?
Shhh... don't tell anyone, but the USA is planning on moving Naval Station Norfolk to the Sea of Tranquility!
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Ron, look up your dictionary for the definition (general) of a cult. It covers all religious sects. You may be lucky, but since the early days (100+ years ago) there has been much erroneous preaching and teaching which has had adverse cultic influences affecting many honest souls because of their compliant, sensitive, and deferrent natures, resulting in a good many screwed up lives. That's real truth and real experience. Ram, if your dictionary paints with such a wide brush, I'd consider it a good candidate for the trash can. :>) Better yet, keep it and just take a "black magic marker" and obliterate the part that part of your dictionary not fit for human consumption similar to what my grandma used to do with romance novels she read, then passed on to others! :>) :>) For me, I can't say I'm lucky. Fortunate, yes. I was fortunate to have enough interest to balance what was being preached with what was actually stated in the Bible to be able to determine what was actually scriptural and what was the opinion of the speaker. It's not that the opinion of the speaker is always wrong. In fact, it may be the best for the time; but maybe not the best for all time. To know what is the best for all time, one needs to get back to the basics of Jesus teaching. No disrespect Ron (I'm a Ron too), however I'll trust the definition of a cult given in my dictionary until I know you better. Also it cost me some cash. Many people mean "adverse cults" when they talk about cults. In my experience there are certainly adverse cultic influences associated with the 2x2 fellowship. I can identify these with what I call Irvinism, i.e. the beliefs and practices within the system which in my view do not line up with scripture. I respect what has been or has not been your experience. I agree that we must align ourselves with that which is of Jesus.
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