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Post by James Durston on Feb 16, 2007 1:06:30 GMT -5
May God bless you recent posters.
Post 257..... You Bible readers,......check it out.........I know its incredible but it is true!
Guess what? There is more to come! Some of you think I am against you but I'm not,...if anything I love you all---I really do...I dont care what you say about me....I do care about you missing out and dont want you ending up in hell.....Youre serving a different Jesus than the Jesus Christ in the Bible!
You don't have any excuses because I am presenting the evidence to you all! satan has got you where he wants you!
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Post by to James on Feb 16, 2007 1:32:29 GMT -5
May God bless you recent posters.
Post 257..... You Bible readers,......check it out.........I know its incredible but it is true!
Guess what? There is more to come! Some of you think I am against you but I'm not,...if anything I love you all---I really do...I dont care what you say about me....I do care about you missing out and dont want you ending up in hell.....Youre serving a different Jesus than the Jesus Christ in the Bible!
You don't have any excuses because I am presenting the evidence to you all! satan has got you where he wants you! Yes, Satan has gotten you also. Satan wants you to stay in the church which you currently attending.
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Post by James Durston on Feb 16, 2007 1:48:31 GMT -5
A house divided cannot stand. satan hates and Jesus loves,...I can love because Jesus first loved me.
Dont forget the Church is God's children. As Christians we are the church. Thankyou for demonstrating POINT 2.
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Post by Geoff on Feb 16, 2007 2:46:49 GMT -5
James you seem to have missed seeing my question. Here it is again..
In your opinion...Can ANYONE possibly be saved within the 2x2's? A YES or NO answer will do.
On another point, your use of crossing out (perhaps intended to be underlining?) is confusing. If you were to register, you would have the ability to edit after posting and fix these errors, and create a little less confusion. You would also avoid the liklihood of some impersonating you as they have.
just to repeat that question, in case you forgot.
In your opinion...Can ANYONE possibly be saved within the 2x2's? A YES or NO answer will do.
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Post by James Durston on Feb 16, 2007 2:48:09 GMT -5
We do not impersonate him, we are him.
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Post by James Durston on Feb 16, 2007 3:05:09 GMT -5
No I am not a sly fox. The scriptures speak for them selves. There is no argument here! You my friend, like others are a liar, a deceiver and are indeed deceived! ....keep looking at the world from your dolls house if thats what you want. I did not post this. Let me be clear about all of this for all of you. This is not what I wanted this to be about. We need to get back on the issue. All of you who post as me will only cause confusion. This is clear and not the father of confusion. Those who are with me will not post against me.
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Post by James Durston on Feb 16, 2007 3:09:02 GMT -5
Oh ye of little faith, you should listen to me the father. I am telling you this for your own good and yet ye despise me. You will burn in Hell oh ye vipers
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Post by James Durston on Feb 16, 2007 3:59:12 GMT -5
ALL THE POSTS AFTER GEOFF, I DID NOT POST. JAMES DURSTON
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Post by jamesdurston on Feb 16, 2007 4:27:38 GMT -5
ALL THE POSTS AFTER GEOFF, I DID NOT POST. JAMES DURSTON I did not post the posts before Geoff and did not want it to come to this but I have registered so everyone will be sure when it is me and can learn the truth. Unless I post registered as James Durston, please disregard all the imposters write. They are evil and the work of SATAN. Enough said about this very clear point. Now I want to get back to my remaining 23 points.
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Post by James Durston on Feb 16, 2007 4:58:02 GMT -5
Someone has registered useing my name.
I did not post 267, 268, 269 and 271.
You will notice on post 271 that satan has a capital letter. I never ever give satan a capital letter even at the beggining of a sentence.
What do I do?
Dear Blessed Father, in the name of Jesus Christ I rebuke this imposter. Amen.
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Post by James Durston on Feb 16, 2007 5:29:53 GMT -5
Someone has registered useing my name.
I did not post 267, 268, 269 and 271.
You will notice on post 271 that satan has a capital letter. I never ever give satan a capital letter even at the beggining of a sentence.
What do I do?
Dear Blessed Father, in the name of Jesus Christ I rebuke this imposter. Amen.
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Post by James Durston on Feb 16, 2007 6:09:04 GMT -5
My friend I am not sure who you are but you are cursing yourself. If you realise what you are doing ...well you would not do it!
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Post by James Durston on Feb 16, 2007 11:20:33 GMT -5
I curse you you imposter, you evil one, you worker of iniquity, and I call on all power to cause you to suffer boils on your face.
Alcallabullaballa jingkwai albaskabangga taikwando pontefractualy
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Post by jamesdurston on Feb 16, 2007 12:11:25 GMT -5
Now if you are not ignorant of the Scriptures, and if you casually read and study the word of God, you will see that the Workers & Friends understanding on Mathew 10 is tremendously commendable.
We're going right back to the Bible, right back to the way that the Lord Jesus Christ did things! But let me show you again, if you think that The Friends and Workers are a cult, this will change your mind and reveal the truth.
For instance, if you look at verse 5 of chapter 10, it reads: 'These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not: But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel'…………... The Lord Jesus at this particular time in His ministry actually claims that He was not there to preach the gospel to the Gentiles, but rather He was going and sending His own disciples to the lost sheep of the house of Israel………………. Now here is a case in point at the very beginning of their interpretation of these verses, we see how they fulfill it themselves - because the Workers, they go to the Gentiles and preach the gospel! This is just as they were told because of the changing meaning of the word Gentiles. To Jesus it meant someone not of His religion - non-Jews. Today it means someone not professing.
You can't cherry-pick Scriptures contextually, in the same context where we have these verses in verse 9 and 10 telling us to go two-by-two and so on, is the same place where Jesus told them not to go the way of the Gentiles but to go to the lost house of the people of Israel. This is in line with what Jesus taught because the Jews, Jesus and his followers, became today's Christians!
.......So the Friends are to be found in Worldwide!
Oneness Pentecostal teaching, promotes the idea that they are not the lost tribe of Israel. Oneness teachings are much like those of a man named Sabellius, a third-century figure who was labeled a heretic by the Christian Church. Take care not to fall into this trap. The basis for Oneness doctrine lies with a group of key scriptures that have been misinterpreted or misunderstood by apostolic adherents. It all started with man in 1913 at a Camp Meeting. Talk about a cult!
Their exclusive claim to salvation rests upon their boast of possessing the only baptismal formula that 'works'...and it's not Matthew 28:19!
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Post by Ulster Ire on Feb 16, 2007 13:27:42 GMT -5
You can't cherry-pick Scriptures contextually,[...... [/color] Yet the Friends are to be found in Ulster! And, as we will see in Oneness Pentecostal teaching, we are []not] the lost tribe of Israel, neither are the Americans, but we are Europeans - Well, they suppose to go to the lost sheep of Israel at that time. But as you so well know, not acknowledged [of yet] , it is that these 'sent ones', were ALSO instructed at a later time and place, to preach unto those in Ulster. Oh, James you are a sly fox, arent you?? [/quote] So when was it permitted to preach to the fine folk in Ulster?
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Post by James Durston on Feb 16, 2007 15:12:41 GMT -5
273, 275 and 276 Are not my posts!!
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Post by jamesdurston on Feb 16, 2007 16:33:21 GMT -5
273, 275 and 276 Are not my posts!! I would like to change the direction I have been going in and try to come up with the answers from a different direction. This will knock your socks off and there is a lot to follow it. Instead of looking to see if the Friends and Workers is a cult, I would like to show why the Oneness Pentecostal theology is not a cult. Just because they believe they are the only way to salvation and do not accept the idea of the trinity does not mean they are a cult. Many many interesting points to follow.
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Post by to james on Feb 16, 2007 17:35:16 GMT -5
james,
yelling that so and so's comments are not your posts is about as effective as pissing into the wind.
What you need to do is register yourself an account, and then place indepenent verification online elsewhere (such as your website) as to which account is you.
the rest of us are intelligent enough to see that some jerkwad is getting his rocks off by impostering you, but seriously, save yourself the headache and get your own account.
signed,
Ben There & Don That
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Post by To James on Feb 16, 2007 17:45:56 GMT -5
273, 275 and 276 Are not my posts!! I would like to change the direction I have been going in and try to come up with the answers from a different direction. This will knock your socks off and there is a lot to follow it. Instead of looking to see if the Friends and Workers is a cult, I would like to show why the Oneness Pentecostal theology is not a cult. Just because they believe they are the only way to salvation and do not accept the idea of the trinity does not mean they are a cult. Many many interesting points to follow. It's amazing how they change the subject isn't it? You made a good point and they started all form of distraction, misdirection, deception, and dirty deeds. like no one notices the method to their madness.
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Post by Good Idea on Feb 16, 2007 19:39:44 GMT -5
I would like to change the direction I have been going in and try to come up with the answers from a different direction. This will knock your socks off and there is a lot to follow it. Instead of looking to see if the Friends and Workers is a cult, I would like to show why the Oneness Pentecostal theology is not a cult. Just because they believe they are the only way to salvation and do not accept the idea of the trinity does not mean they are a cult. Many many interesting points to follow. It's amazing how they change the subject isn't it? You made a good point and they started all form of distraction, misdirection, deception, and dirty deeds. like no one notices the method to their madness. Isn't the subject the same? Investigating cults in various denomination of Christianity?
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Post by James Durston on Feb 17, 2007 1:16:19 GMT -5
I DID NOT POST: 267 268 269 271 273 275 276 279 280 281 282
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Post by nitro on Feb 17, 2007 1:26:52 GMT -5
If you can figure out how to turn your numbers Red,I'm sure you can sign up to be a member. This will continue and it will be no one's fault but your own.Membership has its advantages. The #one thing is it makes the person more accountable and should prevent this to happen. Hey good luck but it looks like you have someone chasing your tail.
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Post by James Durston on Feb 17, 2007 1:31:09 GMT -5
Now if you are ignorant of the rest of the Scriptures, and if you casually read and study the word of God, you might think that the Workers & Friends understanding on Mathew 10 is tremendously commendable.
We're going right back to the Bible, right back to the way that the Lord Jesus Christ did things! But let me show you again, if you doubt that The Friends and Workers are a cult, this is a classic way that cults use and abuse the Holy Scriptures.
For instance, if you look at verse 5 of chapter 10, it reads: 'These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not: But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel'…………... The Lord Jesus at this particular time in His ministry actually claims that He was not there to preach the gospel to the Gentiles, but rather He was going and sending His own disciples to the lost sheep of the house of Israel………………. Now here is a case in point at the very beginning of their interpretation of these verses, we see how they transgress it themselves - because the Workers, they go to the Gentiles and preach the gospel!
You can't cherry-pick Scriptures contextually, in the same context where we have these verses in verse 9 and 10 telling us to go two-by-two and so on, is the same place where Jesus told them not to go the way of the Gentiles but to go to the lost house of the people of Israel.
.......Yet the Friends are to be found in Ulster! And, as we will see in Oneness Pentecostal teaching, we are not the lost tribe of Israel, neither are the Americans, but we are Europeans - or at least most of us - and we are Gentiles, yet they have come to us to preach the gospel. They're transgressing their own terms, if you like.
Added to that fact is that the message that the Lord Jesus gave them to preach in verse 7: 'The kingdom of heaven is at hand', was a preparatory message. It is not the gospel that we preach today, it was the gospel that the kingdom of God was near, it was at hand in the very person of the Lord Jesus Christ. Of course, as we go through Matthew's gospel we find out that through their unbelief the Jewish people forfeited the right to the kingdom at this particular time.
“So the gospel that they preached is not the same gospel, indeed the only way you can preach this gospel is if the Lord Jesus Christ was with us in bodily form, right back at this particular time in Jewish history.”
Add to all these facts in the context of Matthew chapter 10 the fact that this commission was a temporary one, the commission that we read of in verse 9 to 'Provide neither gold, nor silver, nor brass in your purses, Nor scrip for your journey, neither two coats, neither shoes, nor yet staves: for the workman is worthy of his hire'. Not only was the message temporary and proprietary, but these injunctions practically were also temporary. If you turn with me for a moment to Luke's gospel chapter 22, you will see in the words of the Lord Jesus Christ Himself how He gives a contrary commandment to the same disciples
- in fact, a commandment that undoes the commandment in Matthew chapter 10. Luke 22 verse 35: 'And he said unto them, When I sent you without purse, and scrip, and shoes, lacked ye any thing? And they said, Nothing. Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one'. Is the Lord Jesus contradicting Himself? Of course He's not!
For authenticity please understand POST 272. I think it is pretty obvious who is the genuine James Durston and who is not. ..thankfully the imposter is not that smart.
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Post by James Durston on Feb 17, 2007 1:34:28 GMT -5
Nitro........but they have used my name. Why does not administration do something about this? I am not happy to let admin ignore this as I have already told them. They dont seem to care but I do intend to do something about it.
At the moment this is not a good place to discuss---poor forum! I dont recomend it. Lousy admin!!
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Post by nitro on Feb 17, 2007 1:39:03 GMT -5
Sorry looking over the last few post It is an impostor and this must stop or we as a group will find somewhere else to post . This Jerk has hijack your name.
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Post by James Durston on Feb 17, 2007 5:49:09 GMT -5
Ok…so far we have three foundational doctrines of the Friends & Workers that constitutes a cult. In order they are:
POINT 1: It is utterly false and Biblically unfounded to say, you have to be in their way to be saved. POINT 2: It is utterly false and Biblically unfounded to say, that you cannot fellowship in churchy looking buildings. POINT 3: The Matthew 10 foundation is a transgression and is completely misunderstood and totally misrepresented.
Just one of these POINTS above warrants us to leave this life of deception. Do not forget we are talking about a group of people who pervert Gods Word and justify themselves. This ‘religion’ is an abomination to God! There are three POINTS so far. The evidence is utterly overwhelming…no doubt what so ever! On any one of the above we can rest our case.
But there is more to come. We have to talk about the perversions of the Friends & Workers and also of the X-Friends. We have to ask why are the Friends & Workers so easy to blackmail.
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Post by Geoff on Feb 17, 2007 6:17:09 GMT -5
I remember a most interesting post by "studylearning", where he said (if I remember right), that to deny the work of the Holy Spirit in the lives of others is about the same as Blasphemy of the Spirit.
James, don't you think that by trying to describe ALL 2x2s as evil, satanic, etc that you are in danger of doing this?
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Post by Bert unlogged on Feb 17, 2007 6:24:01 GMT -5
quote - "These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not: But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel" ... Now here is a case in point at the very beginning of their interpretation of these verses, we see how they transgress it themselves - because the Workers, they go to the Gentiles and preach the gospel!
What do you think of Paul and Timothy preaching to the Gentiles? Also, what do you think of Peter's first conversion of a Gentile? Also, if you feel we transgress Matth 10, then what church have you found to be closer to this command?
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