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Post by shiloh on Aug 10, 2010 12:25:13 GMT -5
I wonder what the heat indez will be like in the meeting shed. The humidity from the Chesapeake Bay will make you faint. My cousin goes there and says that ambulences often visit the grounds because of heatstrokes.
I ask Leslie White, Barry Barkley and Jerome Frandle::
Explain why VA, IN, IL, KY and OH have their conventions BEFORE MN, WI, and the Dakotas?? Something is wrong.
There is something that bothered me about the fellowship: The friends were to have no input into the plans the workers make and were expected to "fit in".
If you murmur or complain, YOU were the issue and not the issue you were bringing up.
Explain why the VA tidewater has convention in August and MN has it in October??
Why should these old faithful professing saints have to endure the heat inside the meeting shed??Dangerous.
Switch the dates between the northern and southern conventions??
Are the friends in VA, OH, KY, IN, IL etc being punished for something??
Some conventions don't have AC in the dining shed or dorms.
Fans do not lower the temperature. My older relatives wouldn't consider skipping convention. But my why suffer??
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Post by BaPa on Aug 10, 2010 13:19:53 GMT -5
It all depends on who is speaking. Might have a really "Cool" speaker making for a cool convention.
Not all workers are "Hot" speakers. So the temperature range may be just right.
Ever been to a bad convention? Usually you will hear "Its the best one I've ever been to".
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Post by eh? on Aug 10, 2010 13:32:35 GMT -5
Explain why VA, IN, IL, KY and OH have their conventions BEFORE MN, WI, and the Dakotas?? Something is wrong. It's unusual for someone to complain about being first ;D
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Post by Sylvestra on Aug 10, 2010 14:07:01 GMT -5
California and Nevada (late edit - I actually meant Arizona, not Nevada) finally wised up a few years ago about this. Now the conventions are in more reasonable weather!
Of course, this had to happen AFTER I left the meetings LOL!
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Post by emy on Aug 10, 2010 15:45:49 GMT -5
I have no idea how dates are chosen, in general. I did hear that they were chosen in TX, AZ and CA to give relief from the heat. Here in ND we used to have 2 convs in Oct. It often snowed and was cold for the 2nd one. A few years ago, that conv was shifted to mid-September.
The upper midwest has traditionally been a grain farming area and early conventions (July, August, September) would come right at harvest time. Scripturally, feast days were held after harvests, at least some. There was rumor that changing conv from end of October to mid-September also interfered less with corn harvest. Some overseers ARE practical - maybe even influenced by us "just plain folks."
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Post by r733 on Aug 10, 2010 19:55:45 GMT -5
don't the conventions in the US have some way of dealing with all the heat..it does get hot in Canada also in summer I can remember being in some pretty hot mtg sheds
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Post by Gene on Aug 10, 2010 20:34:34 GMT -5
Back when conventions were founded in the U.S., they were often timed around farm activity. West Texas: After wheat harvest; before milo harvest. Iowa: After harvest. Virginia? No idea - between tobacco harvest and firing up the still? ;D
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2010 20:57:03 GMT -5
California and Nevada finally wised up a few years ago about this. Now the conventions are in more reasonable weather! Of course, this had to happen AFTER I left the meetings LOL! E So you too remember listening to Willie Jamieson speak at Santee in 110 degree heat and he had his COAT on!!!!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2010 20:57:47 GMT -5
Back when conventions were founded in the U.S., they were often timed around farm activity. West Texas: After wheat harvest; before milo harvest. Iowa: After harvest. Virginia? No idea - between tobacco harvest and firing up the still? ;D Hey, when did they start letting the fire go out in the still?
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Post by Sylvestra on Aug 10, 2010 21:01:25 GMT -5
California and Nevada finally wised up a few years ago about this. Now the conventions are in more reasonable weather! Of course, this had to happen AFTER I left the meetings LOL! E So you too remember listening to Willie Jamieson speak at Santee in 110 degree heat and he had his COAT on!!!! Oh! I remember it well. In (I believe) 1963, it was 117 degrees on the platform. I remember Herbert Vitzthum speaking (without his coat, I think), and he told everyone to stop their fanning. He said it annoyed him to watch everyone, and they couldn't be any hotter than he was. They did install the huge swamp coolers and the overhead fans at Santee and Buttonwillow, which made a big difference in the comfort level.
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Post by buzzybee on Aug 11, 2010 3:16:52 GMT -5
I don't think heat matters to the workers since alot of them have ac in their quarters.....
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Post by shiloh on Aug 11, 2010 8:01:24 GMT -5
They probably don't feel it because after meetings, they get to cool off. Visiting workers usually head to the house after the meeting is over. Not only is it hot during meeting but also between meetings. You rarely see workers circulate between meetings. A few exceptions.
I remember being at Downings and thinking how hot when somone mentioned how nice the weather was this year.
Old folks sleeping quarters should be air conditioned at least.
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Post by buzzybee on Aug 11, 2010 13:12:53 GMT -5
Last convention i went to someone got heat stroke on the second floor of the sleeping quarters. One of the sister invited me into to the main sister workers area to get me a speaking list and it was nice and air conditioned. I thought wow, they complain about being poor and penniless, and about how much utilities cost during convention. Its tough when you can't get a break from the heat.
It would be nice if at least we got the option, or if there was a cool off house, area where one could get a break.
I was speaking to a worker who attended Seneca this last week. And they to mentioned how nice the weather was. Well, if it was anything like what its been here which is a bordering state, it has been oppresive with humidity.
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Post by ScholarGal on Aug 11, 2010 13:24:50 GMT -5
If you're going to a hot convention, drink plenty of water. Passing out in the middle of meeting because of dehydration is pretty embarrassing. (Drink extra water if you go hiking or play football in the heat of the day between lunch and afternoon meeting.)
Most hot conventions have various ways of keeping people cool: -Shade trees -Tents or shelters with open sides -Gallons and gallons of water, iced tea, or iced coffee -Self-serve crushed ice -Fans -Misters
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2010 13:28:51 GMT -5
Most hot conventions have various ways of keeping people cool: -Shade trees -Tents or shelters with open sides -Gallons and gallons of water, iced tea, or iced coffee -Self-serve crushed ice -Fans -Misters [/font][/quote] Most conventions I have gone to have more Misses than Misters. (Now that no one can smite me, I couldn't resist...)
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Post by ScholarGal on Aug 11, 2010 13:53:51 GMT -5
Most hot conventions have various ways of keeping people cool: -Shade trees -Tents or shelters with open sides -Gallons and gallons of water, iced tea, or iced coffee -Self-serve crushed ice -Fans -Misters [/font][/quote] Most conventions I have gone to have more Misses than Misters. (Now that no one can smite me, I couldn't resist...) [/quote] Oh, I've definitely noticed that too! Just started a new thread on the topic.
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Post by shiloh on Aug 12, 2010 6:15:37 GMT -5
Downings is close to the Chesepeake Bay which increases the humidity. On the platform the main speaker isn't so close to other people and under a fan. I am glad the friends finally started bringing water bottles into the shed during meetings.
Apopka FL (Klepzig farm) has an air conditioned meeting shed. Two years ago at Shoals IN, the Sunday evening meeting was unbearable.
Seems like August south of the Great Lakes wasn't as hot as it is now.
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Post by Christopher J. on Aug 12, 2010 9:46:13 GMT -5
Thunderstorms have moved through and brought cooler weather in the whole area. Reports are that the rest of the week will be at least 10 degrees cooler than it has been, so Downings is getting a respite.
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Post by sharonw on Aug 12, 2010 16:27:09 GMT -5
Back when conventions were founded in the U.S., they were often timed around farm activity. West Texas: After wheat harvest; before milo harvest. Iowa: After harvest. Virginia? No idea - between tobacco harvest and firing up the still? ;D
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Post by sharonw on Aug 12, 2010 16:29:32 GMT -5
I don't think heat matters to the workers since alot of them have ac in their quarters..... I'm not so certain about that...yes, they'd have it cool for sleeping/rest, but to come out of a/c and go onto the platform that is right in the middle of hundreds of warm bodies can't be all that pleasant and add the nervous energy to preach for 45 mins. plus, it isn't pleasant at all.....
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Post by emy on Aug 12, 2010 20:10:17 GMT -5
I don't think heat matters to the workers since alot of them have ac in their quarters..... I'm not so certain about that...yes, they'd have it cool for sleeping/rest, but to come out of a/c and go onto the platform that is right in the middle of hundreds of warm bodies can't be all that pleasant and add the nervous energy to preach for 45 mins. plus, it isn't pleasant at all..... Good point about moving in and out of A/C. I have found that my body will adjust to most hot humid weather after a day or so, but if I'm spending part of the day in A/C the adjustment is hindered. (But I'll still take A/C for sleeping!!)
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Post by Christopher J. on Aug 15, 2010 18:07:53 GMT -5
As Downings concludes:
It turned surprisingly cool the last few days, and I actually spotted several people wearing sweaters today.
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