This was a Long Time Coming

[rational]

Jul 25, 2010 8:57:19 GMT -5 sharonw said:

rational, I would like your opinion as to the why, workers and priests are found to be committing CSA, if not pedophiles?

Some may be pedophiles. But the ones discussed here do not display the behavioral traits that would classify them as a pedophile. From the information available I would say hebephilia would be much more accurate.

CSA does not equal pedophilia.

[rational]

Jul 25, 2010 12:12:06 GMT -5 jhjmr said:

You are so correct Sharon. It is not a normal behavior to like young girls or young boys.

No one said it was normal. But your ignorance of the facts does not change them.

And if men like young boys, we can add another illness to the list.

And what would that illness be?

And when we prey on the young, we are a pedophiles.

You would need to define young. And you would be able to present yourself as being more knowledgeable if you would take the time to familiarize yourself with the generally accepted definition of pedophilia or, if you feel the need, tell us the definition you want to use.

Pedophiles prey on the young because, they can control them.

That may be one reason. So, in your opinion, a child that cannot be controlled would not be of interest to a pedophile?

[CherieKropp]

Definition of CSA

[Byron]

The Rest Of The Story of “This Was A Long Time Coming”

In July of this year, after more than two decades of suffering, Sheri, yet another victim of the 2x2 cult publicized her account of sexual abuse by a worker. “This was a Long Time Coming “is a riveting chronicle of abuse at the hands of a worker.

What was not revealed at the time was Sheri's efforts to obtain a measure of accountability from those who should have protected her and her parents from this tragedy.

For the first time publicly, we can now witness not only the plague that was thrust on this family, but how the clergy reacts to it today.

Much has been touted about the progress of how CSA in the 2x2’s is being dealt with. However, the cover-ups and ambivalence shown by the leadership of this cult leaves much to be desired and this chronological documentation of the email exchanges is testament to that.

[Jesse_Lackman]

Like I said on the other thread I really wish charges would have been pressed, it would have been so different now *and* so much better for all involved. This letter from about the same time frame illustrates it;

Click -> Excerpt of a letter written by a young Sister Worker to Tharold Sylvester

[Byron]

While the "Excerpt of a letter written by a young Sister Worker" is very compelling and undoubtedly true, this response attempts to detract from the purpose of the thread, which is to document that while much has been touted about the "great advancement" in how CSA is being handled by the leaders of the 2x2's, it is obvious that much of it is business as usual...........

This tactic is very similar to the first sentence of the Ministry Safe Thread, and I quote.....

"Most readers of this board would know workers have been taking MinistrySafe training for a few years now."

This statement is grossly misleading, for it implies that this training has been underway for "years" now. I would challenge the "workers" to provide the dated certificates of completion, along with the complete list of how many have actually completed this training.

As has been offered numerous times in the past,VOT will be more than happy to publish that data.

I fear that it would reveal quite a different picture.