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Post by Why not on Nov 15, 2007 19:44:35 GMT -5
My question was: How would you go about reporting this?I ask the question because you seem to feel that I should be reporting what I hear. I think that we would both agree that the one who should be reporting this is the one who was abused (or the parent). Scott You published a letter that contained all of the names of the people involved. Add the dates when the events took place, get it signed and notarized and send it off to the appropriate authority for the state in which it took place. Signed, dated, and notarized it would be enough for the state to act. If the parents do not want to report it, you should report them. Is there a downside? Of course. If the report is fabricated you could be brought up on charges. Yes, we agree. The parents or victim should be the ones reporting the crime. The question is - are you going to report it? If not then why are you soliciting the information? It will only take the person off the streets if it is reported to the authorities. Yes, I feel you should be reporting what you hear. In fact, in some states the law requires it. Here is the problem I have. You have no proof. You are not, as far as you have said, involved with these people. You are not going to the authorities. You are not in licensed to deal with this kind of cases. You are just asking people to send you the stories of their sexual abuse. If you aren't reporting them there must be some other reason that you want these details. You have said it has led you to friendship. Friendship created by people sharing their tales of sexual abuse with a stranger? The problem - none of what you have is really proof. And there is the rub. You are dealing in gossip and it will never make it to the authorities but will be circulated and recirculated and possibly damage a number of lives without the slightest chance of saving one child from the criminal's next move.
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Post by aussiegal on Nov 15, 2007 20:05:55 GMT -5
No-one knows what's in the future and how many children are or are not at risk. We can only deal with what has happened in the past. It is not up to us to be judge and jury. BUT we do have a duty of care to report what we know. The appropriate action to take is to report it to the authorities. Let the authorities then do what they've been trained to do and investigate, bring to justice, and put restrictions in place. You have not been trained to deal with it... the only thing you can do is REPORT it. No matter how little or lot you know about the situation. It's not up to you to get the details from the parents... it's the authorities job. Let them deal with it. By saying "authority" above... I mean the police. There are others in positions of authority that need to be aware too. EG. if child abuse happened in a school - a teacher being the abuser... then the school principal would need to be advised and take appropriate action too. The teacher would need to be excluded from activities involving children until the authorities have finished their investigation. If there is a possibility that other children have been abused - then other parents need to be advised too. They need to be educated to contact the authorities in such cases. Not just talk about it and not do anything about it. Same thing for a church situation. If a worker has done the abusing to a child - the overseers need to be aware and take appropriate action (i.e. excluded from households with children or activities with children). Also other parents need to be advised/educated too. In Australia we have child advocacy groups that can help with advice of what needs to be done... do you not have that in America? I saw Canada was mentioned. it's mandatory to report all child abuse - no matter who you are. Whether it's rumour etc. www.justice.gc.ca/en/ps/fm/childafs.html#preventing
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Post by aussiegal on Nov 15, 2007 20:14:40 GMT -5
Telephone services are available in most areas these days Otherwise do your own affidavit up and send it to the police station in that area with your phone number and contact details.
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Post by Scott Ross on Nov 15, 2007 23:52:56 GMT -5
You published a letter that contained all of the names of the people involved. Add the dates when the events took place, get it signed and notarized and send it off to the appropriate authority for the state in which it took place.That particular letter was referring to an incident that took place in the '60's. The one who sent it to me was curious if anybody else had heard whether this worker had abused anyone else. I passed the info on to others, and there had been no other reference to this particular (ex) worker. Most of the people who have contacted me are adults now. Most have families of their own. If they wish to report what happened to them, that's up to them. Several of these stories will be posted on the new web site that is being worked on. Also that site sill NOT be something open to the general viewing public. Those issues which are current have been such that there are folks concerned who are in a better position to report what has happened. Just because I personally have not reported these incidents does not mean that the authorities have not been involved. I have passed on the information I have to others. Why is it that you do not post under your registered name here? I f you do. I'll be glad to send you the names and information I have so you can report it. Scott
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Post by curious too on Nov 16, 2007 2:07:24 GMT -5
Someone wrote earlier, can't find it now, about a person waking up finding someone hugging and kissing them. Is this really sexual abuse? Obviously, we would guess it was leading to something more. Certainly it is a serious fault but is it sexual abuse? Just curious?
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Post by ranman77007 on Nov 16, 2007 19:19:32 GMT -5
i had a friend in northern ca. his nickname was "spot"...lol...he grew up next door to winona ryder, the actress...but thats not what this is about...
his daughter was raped on the way home from school. she was 12 or 13 years old, and she was pretty... well it turns out that when she told daddy (spot)... that spot knew who the guy was, that they had seen him around town. the next day, the police found the guy dead in an alley.... now i wasnt around that night that she was raped, because spot wasnt in the best mood, as you can imagine... but i remember the next day, he just shrugged and said, "they found the guy dead, and thats all i know."
if anyone is going to rape a little child, then they should just walk to the nearest funeral home and wait, ...... besides, the cops have so much to do just trying to figure out what exactly they meant when they swore to uphold the constitution.... and whats to report? a dead rapist laying in an alley?
if you don't report the dead rapist, you may get lucky and they will call his death from "natural" causes.... seems perfectly natural to me... rape a daughter, meet the daddy.... and say goodbye.
note: i stay away from these threads, usually, i think its common sense to at least report it, and i admit i did not read the first post in this thread, but i ......hmmmm, i dunno, for some reason i just felt i should post here.... i may just go read it now....
i don't have any kids, maybe thats why....
but if someone messed with my niece, they'd find him in more than one piece, and he'd wish i was just the police...
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Post by Scott Ross on Nov 16, 2007 23:03:55 GMT -5
Howdy Ran, i don't have any kids, maybe thats why....
but if someone messed with my niece, they'd find him in more than one piece, and he'd wish i was just the police... I LIKE it! That's the way I feel about it also. Scott
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