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Post by BobWilliston on Mar 7, 2024 20:35:26 GMT -5
The Supreme Court just passed the buck to the dysfunctional Congress, where right now there is no interest in banning a criminal from the presidency. Right now, the constitution just stipulates 3 things are necessary to qualify a person running for president. Be a natural-born citizen of the United States, be at least 35 years old, and have been a resident of the United States for 14 years. Trump has no felony convictions, but even if he did, it wouldn't disqualify him or anyone else. A dysfunctional Congress would be one that was willing to re-write the constitution to suit their political bias. It really screws things up when Congress messes with perfection and decides to change or create add-ons to the constitution. They banned slavery in 1865, invented an income tax in 1913, an gave women the right to vote in 1919. All of which made life more miserable for Caucasian males . They even made it legal for women to kill unborn babies, but if a male does it, its manslaughter! Nothing fair about that . Next thing you know, the second amendment will only be applicable for women and illegal immigrants .
MAGA BS, largely. The idea that the Constitution is perfection is belied by the fact that it's need so many additions, one of them the second amendment. When was it perfect, before or after the 2nd Amendment. If it's perfect now, are you suggesting that women should be permitted by it to be legally discriminated against -- the ERA has been soundly defeated in favor of legislation by fickle legislatures. Who cares if the 2nd Amendment only applies to illegals and women, if Article II Section 1 Clause 5 can apply to felons and insurrectionists?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2024 23:00:29 GMT -5
The hubby and I have that argument all the time. He is a firm supporter of state's rights. We argue over the abortion issue. Some things just shouldn't be in the hands of the state. Or the gov't either it seems. The Supreme Court just passed the buck to the dysfunctional Congress, where right now there is no interest in banning a criminal from the presidency. Neither of the current two main candidates would be able to run if they did.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Mar 8, 2024 0:07:06 GMT -5
The Supreme Court just passed the buck to the dysfunctional Congress, where right now there is no interest in banning a criminal from the presidency. Neither of the current two main candidates would be able to run if they did. Tell us about the charges that Joe Biden has been charged with or convicted for.
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Post by Dan on Mar 8, 2024 0:15:50 GMT -5
Right now, the constitution just stipulates 3 things are necessary to qualify a person running for president. Be a natural-born citizen of the United States, be at least 35 years old, and have been a resident of the United States for 14 years. Trump has no felony convictions, but even if he did, it wouldn't disqualify him or anyone else. A dysfunctional Congress would be one that was willing to re-write the constitution to suit their political bias. It really screws things up when Congress messes with perfection and decides to change or create add-ons to the constitution. They banned slavery in 1865, invented an income tax in 1913, an gave women the right to vote in 1919. All of which made life more miserable for Caucasian males . They even made it legal for women to kill unborn babies, but if a male does it, its manslaughter! Nothing fair about that . Next thing you know, the second amendment will only be applicable for women and illegal immigrants .
MAGA BS, largely. The idea that the Constitution is perfection is belied by the fact that it's need so many additions, one of them the second amendment. When was it perfect, before or after the 2nd Amendment. If it's perfect now, are you suggesting that women should be permitted by it to be legally discriminated against -- the ERA has been soundly defeated in favor of legislation by fickle legislatures. Who cares if the 2nd Amendment only applies to illegals and women, if Article II Section 1 Clause 5 can apply to felons and insurrectionists?
The second paragraph in my text was tongue in cheek, accentuated by the 3 smiley faces. Just my sarcastic sense of humor kicking in.. I'm fully cognizant that additional amendments were necessary to address voting rights, the right to bear arms, stop slavery, etc. I do believe the basic constitution was perfect, but just incomplete in addressing details, but that's what the addition of the Bill of Rights was for. However, changing it to disqualify a political rival for the crime of insurrection is ridiculous, especially when no charges or conviction occurred. The Supreme Court unanimously agreed with me.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2024 0:42:18 GMT -5
Neither of the current two main candidates would be able to run if they did. Tell us about the charges that Joe Biden has been charged with or convicted for. I can tell you about the ones the special counsel declined to press charges on. Not because he wasn't guilty, but because they thought the jury would view him as a forgetful elderly man. To which Biden insisted his memory was just fine. www.reuters.com/world/us/us-congress-receives-report-bidens-handling-classified-documents-source-2024-02-08/I could tell you about him threatening to withhold aid from Ukraine unless they fired the prosecutor investigating the Ukrainian company his son had gotten payed for nothing from. judiciary.house.gov/media/in-the-news/smoking-gun-email-reveals-how-hunter-biden-introduced-ukrainian-businessman-to-vpBut the fact he was investigating Burisma had nothing to do with it. Of course. And from the other direction.... Can you tell me a single Russian law or statute Putin had been charged and convicted of? Does that mean he's committed no crimes? By your logic, it does. Did you know Navalny was charged and convicted of fraud and extremism? Does that mean it's legitimate and not politically motivated by the people in power? By your logic, it does. We both know that Putin is 100X the criminal that Navalny is. I think we both know Biden had plenty of crimes in his past, as does Trump. But one gets the book thrown at him, the other? "Meh, he might be guilty, but...well, he's to old and forgetful - a jury would feel bad...." It's a farce. We both know it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2024 0:52:50 GMT -5
On a different note, who was the guy that gave the State of the Union tonight? His eyes were actually open and he spoke twice as fast and loud as he ever had over the last 4 years! Whatever they gave him (stimulants of some kind) started to wear off toward the end, but he came out strong! Mostly bullocks like usual, but he was understandable!
Whatever they had him swallow, inject and/or snort prior, they better pump him full of it and hope his heart can last for 4 more years. A darn sight better than him squinting at cards telling him what reporters to call on with their questions and a prepared answer written for him on them! If he does get reelected, I fully support a presidential pardon for Hunter - our president needs a dealer he can trust, and who better than the "smartest man he knows"? (Joe's words about Hunter)
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Post by Dan on Mar 8, 2024 1:20:23 GMT -5
On a different note, who was the guy that gave the State of the Union tonight? His eyes were actually open and he spoke twice as fast and loud as he ever had over the last 4 years! Whatever they gave him (stimulants of some kind) started to wear off toward the end, but he came out strong! Mostly bullocks like usual, but he was understandable! Whatever they had him swallow, inject and/or snort prior, they better pump him full of it and hope his heart can last for 4 more years. A darn sight better than him squinting at cards telling him what reporters to call on with their questions and a prepared answer written for him on them! If he does get reelected, I fully support a presidential pardon for Hunter - our president needs a dealer he can trust, and who better than the "smartest man he knows"? (Joe's words about Hunter)
I actually thought old Joe did a pretty good job with his State of the Union address, he kind of surprised me. That's not to say I bought what he was selling, but he seemed pretty sharp and on message.
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Post by BobWilliston on Mar 8, 2024 2:22:21 GMT -5
However, changing it to disqualify a political rival for the crime of insurrection is ridiculous, That has to be a most ridiculous statement The crime has already been recognized by a state court. Not really. You just interpreted it that way. The court said Congress needs to make a law about it.
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Post by fixit on Mar 8, 2024 3:50:03 GMT -5
I can tell you about the ones the special counsel declined to press charges on. Not because he wasn't guilty, but because they thought the jury would view him as a forgetful elderly man. Nope. A Trumpist special counsel decided it was too hard, and it would be more beneficial to Trumpism if the words "forgetful elderly man" were heard by voters.
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Post by Lee on Mar 8, 2024 15:17:00 GMT -5
Not exactly. They ruled that the states don't have the right to keep people off the ballots -- it's in the jurisdiction on Congress, not the states. I think they're going to have a problem with the backers of states' rights over administering elections. The hubby and I have that argument all the time. He is a firm supporter of state's rights. We argue over the abortion issue. Some things just shouldn't be in the hands of the state. Or the gov't either it seems. Evidently, he’s a God fearing man.
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Post by Dan on Mar 8, 2024 16:54:16 GMT -5
However, changing it to disqualify a political rival for the crime of insurrection is ridiculous, That has to be a most ridiculous statement The crime has already been recognized by a state court.Not really. You just interpreted it that way. The court said Congress needs to make a law about it.
Now that's the most ridiculous statement... There's a huge difference between an allegation and a conviction. No state governor can arbitrarily disqualify a presidential candidate because they 'suspect' something may have occurred. That would be like every red state removing Biden from their ballots because of all the stuff he's suspected of doing! That's a can of worms you don't want to open. Not only that, but the constitution doesn't stipulate that an eligible candidate must be crime free.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2024 21:32:46 GMT -5
On a different note, who was the guy that gave the State of the Union tonight? His eyes were actually open and he spoke twice as fast and loud as he ever had over the last 4 years! Whatever they gave him (stimulants of some kind) started to wear off toward the end, but he came out strong! Mostly bullocks like usual, but he was understandable! Whatever they had him swallow, inject and/or snort prior, they better pump him full of it and hope his heart can last for 4 more years. A darn sight better than him squinting at cards telling him what reporters to call on with their questions and a prepared answer written for him on them! If he does get reelected, I fully support a presidential pardon for Hunter - our president needs a dealer he can trust, and who better than the "smartest man he knows"? (Joe's words about Hunter)
I actually thought old Joe did a pretty good job with his State of the Union address, he kind of surprised me. That's not to say I bought what he was selling, but he seemed pretty sharp and on message.
same here - he's just gotta keep that intensity for 4.5 more years and I'm fine with it
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2024 23:13:23 GMT -5
I can tell you about the ones the special counsel declined to press charges on. Not because he wasn't guilty, but because they thought the jury would view him as a forgetful elderly man. Nope. A Trumpist special counsel decided it was too hard, and it would be more beneficial to Trumpism if the words "forgetful elderly man" were heard by voters. Nope. So they should've charged him? Have you payed attention at all to what they actually concluded?? They were worried about getting a conviction. The case was airtight. But in this country, it's not about whether or not you commit the crime. It's about whether the "impartial" justice system decides to charge you. If they had charged Buden, would you then be of the opinion that it was a MAGA retaliation? Either way, it seems that we could somehow, some way, blame those MAGA people. Here's an example of a liberal attending a MAGA rally. Poor guy - so much hate. youtu.be/_qHvaave-cEsi=m_uaUeO1Kh20irjB
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Post by snow on Mar 9, 2024 16:00:11 GMT -5
She sure is a mess or more accurately her family is a mess. Her son just got charged with videos of him having sex with an underage and running a racket ring that stole credit cards etc. This is the same son that just became a father at 18. I feel kind of sorry for her and what she's going through.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Mar 9, 2024 17:57:08 GMT -5
She sure is a mess or more accurately her family is a mess. Her son just got charged with videos of him having sex with an underage and running a racket ring that stole credit cards etc. This is the same son that just became a father at 18. I feel kind of sorry for her and what she's going through. Her best buddy, Matt Gaetz is being investigated for trafficking under age girls.
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Post by snow on Mar 9, 2024 18:01:18 GMT -5
She sure is a mess or more accurately her family is a mess. Her son just got charged with videos of him having sex with an underage and running a racket ring that stole credit cards etc. This is the same son that just became a father at 18. I feel kind of sorry for her and what she's going through. Her best buddy, Matt Gaetz is being investigated for trafficking under age girls. Yes waiting for that to finally be going to court. There are a few of them that should not be in Congress. MTG, LB, MG, LG, JJ hmm just realized I don't have time to list them all ...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2024 23:25:58 GMT -5
Her best buddy, Matt Gaetz is being investigated for trafficking under age girls. Yes waiting for that to finally be going to court. There are a few of them that should not be in Congress. MTG, LB, MG, LG, JJ hmm just realized I don't have time to list them all ... If you go through a list of congressmen and women in the house and senate who should be investigated for breaking various laws, you probably would conclude that making a list of those who shouldn't would be a lot quicker. Whether they do or not depends a lot on who they know and what party connections they have.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2024 20:51:00 GMT -5
youtu.be/-JEE2utP1Cw?si=A6P8tv_ZqDsWZPIBiden feels bad about calling the illegal immigrants who murdered a young lady "illegal" in the SOTU. He also mispronounced the victims name. You know... drugs make you say stuff like that. This is where we are. This is America 2024. Biden reverses all of Trump's border policies, a wave of illegal immigration followers, cities overrun, crime spikes, Biden apologizes for hurting the feelings of the ILLEGAL CRIMINAL who killed a young lady..... and.... you guessed it. It's Trump's fault. I'm not sure how, but no doubt the leftists who stain this country will enlighten us all.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Mar 19, 2024 21:59:20 GMT -5
youtu.be/-JEE2utP1Cw?si=A6P8tv_ZqDsWZPIBiden feels bad about calling the illegal immigrants who murdered a young lady "illegal" in the SOTU. He also mispronounced the victims name. You know... drugs make you say stuff like that. This is where we are. This is America 2024. Biden reverses all of Trump's border policies, a wave of illegal immigration followers, cities overrun, crime spikes, Biden apologizes for hurting the feelings of the ILLEGAL CRIMINAL who killed a young lady..... and.... you guessed it. It's Trump's fault. I'm not sure how, but no doubt the leftists who stain this country will enlighten us all. That reminds of the early white settlers who raped, pillaged and murdered their was across what is now the USA. i doubt many modern politicians nor you could pronounce the victims names. If you want to listen to what a real imbecile sounds like, listen to some of Trump's speeches. Most of the sheep have escaped the top paddock.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2024 22:35:42 GMT -5
youtu.be/-JEE2utP1Cw?si=A6P8tv_ZqDsWZPIBiden feels bad about calling the illegal immigrants who murdered a young lady "illegal" in the SOTU. He also mispronounced the victims name. You know... drugs make you say stuff like that. This is where we are. This is America 2024. Biden reverses all of Trump's border policies, a wave of illegal immigration followers, cities overrun, crime spikes, Biden apologizes for hurting the feelings of the ILLEGAL CRIMINAL who killed a young lady..... and.... you guessed it. It's Trump's fault. I'm not sure how, but no doubt the leftists who stain this country will enlighten us all. That reminds of the early white settlers who raped, pillaged and murdered their was across what is now the USA. i doubt many modern politicians nor you could pronounce the victims names. If you want to listen to what a real imbecile sounds like, listen to some of Trump's speeches. Most of the sheep have escaped the top paddock. ah yes... white bad. You're a good leftist.
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Post by Dan on Mar 19, 2024 22:39:34 GMT -5
youtu.be/-JEE2utP1Cw?si=A6P8tv_ZqDsWZPIBiden feels bad about calling the illegal immigrants who murdered a young lady "illegal" in the SOTU. He also mispronounced the victims name. You know... drugs make you say stuff like that. This is where we are. This is America 2024. Biden reverses all of Trump's border policies, a wave of illegal immigration followers, cities overrun, crime spikes, Biden apologizes for hurting the feelings of the ILLEGAL CRIMINAL who killed a young lady..... and.... you guessed it. It's Trump's fault. I'm not sure how, but no doubt the leftists who stain this country will enlighten us all.
To hell with the dead girl, Joey fell to his knees and brown-nosed the 'undocumented' killer that he invited into the country... Biden's a wimp
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Mar 19, 2024 23:33:16 GMT -5
youtu.be/-JEE2utP1Cw?si=A6P8tv_ZqDsWZPIBiden feels bad about calling the illegal immigrants who murdered a young lady "illegal" in the SOTU. He also mispronounced the victims name. You know... drugs make you say stuff like that. This is where we are. This is America 2024. Biden reverses all of Trump's border policies, a wave of illegal immigration followers, cities overrun, crime spikes, Biden apologizes for hurting the feelings of the ILLEGAL CRIMINAL who killed a young lady..... and.... you guessed it. It's Trump's fault. I'm not sure how, but no doubt the leftists who stain this country will enlighten us all.
To hell with the dead girl, Joey fell to his knees and brown-nosed the 'undocumented' killer that he invited into the country... Biden's a wimp
I notice both of you have never said much Trump raping Ms Carroll. is it ok to rape if the man is white?
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Post by Dan on Mar 20, 2024 0:10:40 GMT -5
To hell with the dead girl, Joey fell to his knees and brown-nosed the 'undocumented' killer that he invited into the country... Biden's a wimp
I notice both of you have never said much Trump raping Ms Carroll. is it ok to rape if the man is white?
No rape, he was just found guilty of sexually busing E. Jean Carroll. It was a he said she said scenario, and of course the liberal Trump hating NY jury sided with Carroll.
Imo, it would be nearly impossible to rape someone in a dressing room in the middle of a populated store. No witnesses, no DNA evidence, no screams, unreported to police, and she didn't even remember the year. She admitted to flirting with Trump and voluntarily going into the dressing room with him. She didn't yell for help, which would have been immediately rendered in a crowded store like that. It allegedly happened in the 90's, but Carroll didn't go public with it until he decided to run for president. Hmm
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Mar 20, 2024 0:20:27 GMT -5
I notice both of you have never said much Trump raping Ms Carroll. is it ok to rape if the man is white?
No rape, he was just found guilty of sexually busing E. Jean Carroll. It was a he said she said scenario, and of course the liberal Trump hating NY jury sided with Carroll.
Imo, it would be nearly impossible to rape someone in a dressing room in the middle of a populated store. No witnesses, no DNA evidence, no screams, unreported to police, and she didn't even remember the year. She admitted to flirting with Trump and voluntarily going into the dressing room with him. She didn't yell for help, which would have been immediately rendered in a crowded store like that. It allegedly happened in the 90's, but Carroll didn't go public with it until he decided to run for president. Hmm
That is just one of many sexual indiscretions that Trump has committed. Then there is the rapes by the likes of leslie White and other workers. Were is your handringing on those?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2024 11:45:20 GMT -5
No rape, he was just found guilty of sexually busing E. Jean Carroll. It was a he said she said scenario, and of course the liberal Trump hating NY jury sided with Carroll.
Imo, it would be nearly impossible to rape someone in a dressing room in the middle of a populated store. No witnesses, no DNA evidence, no screams, unreported to police, and she didn't even remember the year. She admitted to flirting with Trump and voluntarily going into the dressing room with him. She didn't yell for help, which would have been immediately rendered in a crowded store like that. It allegedly happened in the 90's, but Carroll didn't go public with it until he decided to run for president. Hmm
That is just one of many sexual indiscretions that Trump has committed. Then there is the rapes by the likes of leslie White and other workers. Were is your handringing on those? I see. So Biden is absolved for any and all responsibility for everything because Trump is a scumbag. Sounds legit. US Generals testimony to congress that the Biden administration and State Department are directly to blame for the disastrous Afghanistan withdrawal? Orange man bad! youtu.be/EVxBTMGdN2w?si=aTkmdY_0aeszSBnhWish I could ignore reality. I've got a question - what's the difference between Trump's sexual abuse/rape accuser and the lady Joe Biden grabbed by the p^^^%? When it's Trump, the victim gets a trial and conviction.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Mar 20, 2024 13:35:20 GMT -5
That is just one of many sexual indiscretions that Trump has committed. Then there is the rapes by the likes of leslie White and other workers. Were is your handringing on those? I see. So Biden is absolved for any and all responsibility for everything because Trump is a scumbag. Sounds legit. US Generals testimony to congress that the Biden administration and State Department are directly to blame for the disastrous Afghanistan withdrawal? Orange man bad! youtu.be/EVxBTMGdN2w?si=aTkmdY_0aeszSBnhWish I could ignore reality. I've got a question - what's the difference between Trump's sexual abuse/rape accuser and the lady Joe Biden grabbed by the p^^^%? When it's Trump, the victim gets a trial and conviction. Nonsense. Trump’s premature surrender of Afghanistan to the Taliban and his “good faith” release of 5,000 Taliban insurgents to sweeten the deal, caused whatever chaos that eventually ensued.
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Post by fixit on Mar 20, 2024 18:28:51 GMT -5
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Post by Dan on Mar 21, 2024 1:30:55 GMT -5
No rape, he was just found guilty of sexually busing E. Jean Carroll. It was a he said she said scenario, and of course the liberal Trump hating NY jury sided with Carroll.
Imo, it would be nearly impossible to rape someone in a dressing room in the middle of a populated store. No witnesses, no DNA evidence, no screams, unreported to police, and she didn't even remember the year. She admitted to flirting with Trump and voluntarily going into the dressing room with him. She didn't yell for help, which would have been immediately rendered in a crowded store like that. It allegedly happened in the 90's, but Carroll didn't go public with it until he decided to run for president. Hmm
That is just one of many sexual indiscretions that Trump has committed. Then there is the rapes by the likes of leslie White and other workers. Were is your handringing on those?
I didn't say Trump wasn't a sort of playboy, but when a flirtatious woman voluntarily follows you into a dressing room, I suspect some mutual affection transpired. All she had to have done is yell out and the department store security would have been there in seconds. Any jilted woman can feel used, I suspect when Trump didn't call her the next day, she may have felt used and it stuck in her craw. Alleging rape is a vengeful tactic.
I don't ring my hands of the Worker monstrosities, especially when multiple victims come forward. But when decades pass, it does make me question the credibility of women who didn't think it was important enough to complain when the offense occurred.
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